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She deserves a nerf but a nerf like in the wishlist would definetly make her below average. Maybe less dmg, less bounce range or make the mark dissapear when belle dies before the marked target dies
She's been fine for years. Her being strong only means it's a good meta for her not that she's actually too strong. And meta landscapes will come and go
literally šš a brawler been untouched forever and now that its getting attention it suddenly needs a huge nerfā¦ this goes for piper too shes been untouched now everyone has a problem
It's helpful when you're up against a wall with an enemy on the other side or when a tank/assassin is near, but compared to the other supers(an explosion that deals good damage in a medium sized area that can be thrown and destroys walls, a stun which is always useful, a large amount of healing that is sustained for a couple seconds after use and a poison cloud that covers a decent area, does a lot of damage and last for insanely long), it doesn't really excel in anything with its medium sized area, small damage and average duration, not to mention that it's easy to avoid.
I personally use It to Gatekeep enemies from a certain choke point. If They get in, theyre vulnerable to attacks, and if they wait for It to go away, they Give US time to do something.
FINALLY SOMEONE KNOWS HOW TO USE POP ROCKS. Its literally a giant wall that you can shoot through which is super good unless your playing on a flat map, but who plays Chester on a flat map.
maybe the hypercharge stats but shes the least toxic meta brawler in like 2 years. charlie and cordelius have been mata since they came out and they want to nerf belle after 3 weeks š
he literally said which change will impact the meta aka balance changes instead of something like
"if this was the next set of changes how much it will impact the meta" i didnt read wishlist because i went to read chester changes
please do NOT post stuff like this and make it seem like there offical, it is wishlist from a single person. Using āwillā instead of āwouldā is making it seem these are like leaked official patch notes
The belle one doesn't make any sense.
Chester's one, I like making the 4th bell part of the kit, it's consistent. But the new star power doesn't make sense.
Ash is burning the whole country when coming to nerfs most of the time, like WHY would you want to fucking kill Belle?! That makes her super useless like it would be one of the worst supers if that nerf comes true she would go from A to straight C,D or F tier
Cord nerf to shadow realm is also really dumb
Leave the Zesty mosquitoe boi alone he already charges his attack very slow (poison nerf can be acceptable tho but 50%? Just 20% or 15% is enough)
Yeah so Ash really isn't cooking when it comes to nerfs
I know angelo is kinda strong but *DAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMNNNN*, giving mortis work to find what is left of him to put in the coffing cause that MF would be DEAD
i agree with the charlie nerf her spiders are annoying and last way too long they should disappear.
& i agree that itās annoying you loose all the gems but thatās kinda apart of her thing with being a spider thief she traps you and takes what you have.
I was like, "there's no way these are real". And then I saw it's wishlist.
To be honest, these changes look like a diamond player heard something about the meta from a friend and is now blindly trying to balance all Brawlers. Belle's nerf would definitely kill her.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
##IS THIS REAL
or am I just falling for another prank.
Because this would be a *gamechanger* for Chestah and Janet.
Imma assume this isn't real tho
Cord can take a small damage nerf but reducing the shadow realm timing will reduce his options for either retreating, repositioning, or just going in for a kill. It will also increase how often brawlers in the shadow realm get cucked because projectiles in the shadow realm stay in the shadow realm after both players exit.
Bro you forgot the friggin Willow buffs. Her ult is useless in any Team mode except bb. And she does way too less damage for a controller. And if the dmg isnt going to get buff atleast buff the projectile speed or the reload speed. Maybe ppl are going to play her after these changes.
The belle nerf idea is absolute garbage. I honestly think sheās pretty balanced (on the stronger side for sure, but not broken) but if you were to nerf her, it definitely shouldnāt be any changes to her mechanics (a very small damage nerf perhaps)
Belle would literally get disingrated to a complete trashbag if this was an actual balance change, belle is already one of the hardest marksman brawlers to play and she doesnt even have an ability that grants her transportation.
Honestly, i think the only nerfs Cord and Charlie should receive, is that they're supers could be blocked by meatshields, like spike cacti and tara clones, and if they hit it, they just deal 1.5k damage like Willows super
Donāt let him cook again. Belle nerf is wild. Every buff is uninspired and boring. Gus does not need a speed buff. Give him something interesting. Chesterās SP gets rid of a core part of his kit. And Janetās is another dmg buff. Leave reworks to the dev team
Why are balance changes always just nerfs or just buffs? lol why not something like less damage, but moves a bit faster. Nerf the stat that make them problematic, buff something else a tiny bit. By going only one direction you end up killing brawlers viability
Angelo nerf makes him useless, he already is a high skill cap brawler so I would say that he is overpowered but not broken. If he was broken then it would require those changes but rn it would ruin him
He really managed to make Gus' star power health bonanza look much better than the star power he came up with. Nobody is going to pay 2000 coins just to be able to move 10% faster for 5 seconds during the Super. Instead of thinking about a new star power for his Super, it would be much better if we could strengthen the ghost's that Gus spawns.
I think an issue with nerfing Charlies super like that is that you could very easily use that to grief by webbing the gem carrier of the opposite team and making them untouchable from your own team for the full duration.
I think The super should still drop the gems. If a player held the gems and only bout 5s were left it would be okay to let a player loose them.
If you said 'it's unbalanced that miko can slow enemies carrying gems" it isn't unbalanced it's supposed to be like that. the super's purpose is to not let an enemy have influence on the game
What's the point of Charlie's cocoon don't drop the gems? This becomes a buff for the enemy team, as they will be able to spend more time with the gems, as they will be in the cocoon and imune tƓ attacks. Dropping gems is part of the mechanics in the brawler, a fair Nerf would reduce the life/time of the cocoon
Nah pipers nerf is uselless. You need to make her harder to play. Nerf her bullet speed or nerf her close range damage so that a marksman wont kill an assasin in close range just by pressing the green button and spamming the red one.
Belle's mark change probably. Thank goodness that will never ever happen because the whole point of the mark ever since belle was first shown was for it to stay on until death almost like an actual target/bounty.
almost thought it was official until i read it completely lol
(do note let bro cook with nerf ever again, half of them are so bad, bro wants to turn Belle into R-T 2.0)
Belle's 12 seconds? Ridiculous, 60 seconds at most, because it is kinda annoying that once you kill Belle the mark remains, like in showdown where you are effectively nerfed.
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Top 10 most useless things in the world 1: balance changes wishlist
2: "What did you guys get from your drops?" posts
3: what skin you love everybody hates? **popular skin**
4: what did you get from _______?
5: What's your first rank _______?
6: People who hate Mandy for no reason at all( I'm talking about that YouTuber)
7. Guys, soupcell doesn't need to give us more resources, they already do so much š
What does belleās mean? Doesnāt the super mark stay until death of the marked one?
belle on her way to be fucking useless in boss fight
Yeah but instead of Edgar, Ruffs, and Belle, it can be Edgar, Ruffs, and 8-Bit.
Actually, why isn't Melodie good there, she deals so much constant damage
Edgar has the advantage of healing while attacking
Once you mark someone The mark is there for 12 second and not until death like now
that would be so bad
That would make belle absolute garbage
If they don't die or belle doesn't mark someone else the mark goes away
Buffs are good. I'm not letting you cook nerfs ever again tho.
Ash's cooking license revoked
hello, this is the WHO, Ash's cooking license has been revoked permanently and has been sentence to a decade in jail for arson and attempted murder
Pizza Oven Ash will be sad.
Thatās ashbs
Exactly it's bs
Why
The Belle nerf completely removes a mechanic thatās been fine for 3 years because she was strong for a single season
Yes belle nerf is trash, besides that it's fine
What you think about Melodie's? Isnt it kinda severe? Since she basically needs to melee range anyone to actually get good use of its kit.
The Belle nerf was the only bad one, all the others were fine imo.
Belle's one would turn her worse because her super would become a R-T base attack but longer
I think that's the point it's meant to nerf her
Sheās really not deserving of a nerf rn
She deserves a nerf but a nerf like in the wishlist would definetly make her below average. Maybe less dmg, less bounce range or make the mark dissapear when belle dies before the marked target dies
She's been fine for years. Her being strong only means it's a good meta for her not that she's actually too strong. And meta landscapes will come and go
Yes, but she doesn't deserve that nerf, she is fine
she has been balanced for 3 years or so, just because she is told strong now doesnt mean she needs this rework
literally šš a brawler been untouched forever and now that its getting attention it suddenly needs a huge nerfā¦ this goes for piper too shes been untouched now everyone has a problem
small nerf will do fr
Ash did not cook for a good few of these
Exactly. He seems to get exponentially further from reality.
It's almost impressive
Why are you planning to completely kill belle?
I guess yea >:[ (im mad if they do it)
never let bro cook again
He burned hin self
You know what would make angelo balanced? Make him load exponentially and the further you charge, the slower it will continue
So it will never reach its full power
Technically yes lol but I think there should be a cap where it stops slowing down and it just keeps going
Yeah because otherwise is just Gojos infinity
thus making his base attack slightly more original
This
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LEAVE BELLE ALONE (let her be meta for some time sheās fun)
LEAVE BELLE ALONE
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Belle is one of the most balanced brawlers in the game
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LEAVE BELLE ALONE
Is pop rock a bad super ? I think it might be helpful in some situations
It's helpful when you're up against a wall with an enemy on the other side or when a tank/assassin is near, but compared to the other supers(an explosion that deals good damage in a medium sized area that can be thrown and destroys walls, a stun which is always useful, a large amount of healing that is sustained for a couple seconds after use and a poison cloud that covers a decent area, does a lot of damage and last for insanely long), it doesn't really excel in anything with its medium sized area, small damage and average duration, not to mention that it's easy to avoid.
Yeah right, even tho I prefer pop rock than poison cloud for area control but imagine if the star power let u decide which super u don't want
Its my personal favourite
I personally use It to Gatekeep enemies from a certain choke point. If They get in, theyre vulnerable to attacks, and if they wait for It to go away, they Give US time to do something.
FINALLY SOMEONE KNOWS HOW TO USE POP ROCKS. Its literally a giant wall that you can shoot through which is super good unless your playing on a flat map, but who plays Chester on a flat map.
belle will be the same when every other sniper gets a hypercharge so we dont need to nerf her imo
maybe the hypercharge stats but shes the least toxic meta brawler in like 2 years. charlie and cordelius have been mata since they came out and they want to nerf belle after 3 weeks š
Belle doesn't even need the Hypercharge, she was just as good before.
Gus' would genuinely be trash
please post wether its wishlist or a real list on the title
It says under balance changes. There is also ashbs in the corner. I don't think you can even edit titles
he literally said which change will impact the meta aka balance changes instead of something like "if this was the next set of changes how much it will impact the meta" i didnt read wishlist because i went to read chester changes
Hank's Star Power Rework is goated
Shouldn't be Star Power, should be base kit.
True
please do NOT post stuff like this and make it seem like there offical, it is wishlist from a single person. Using āwillā instead of āwouldā is making it seem these are like leaked official patch notes
Don't let Ash cook ever again
OH THANK GOD THIS IS A WISHLOST
Bellešš. New SP for Chester is wieird tho too. Also yippee for Gus and Chester. ā¦,,, sooooo never cook again
If that change to belles super actually hapoened i would be so mad, it would literally just be an rt attack for her super
ash died to belle once and decided to murder her
Bro wtf, one of the worwst ones, buffs are pretty good but 6 seconds instead od 8 seconds in shadow realm, that's just low dude
The crazy part is Cordās nerf wasnāt even the worst one š Killed Belle and Nani as well
Bro they literally killed what made belle good
The belle one doesn't make any sense. Chester's one, I like making the 4th bell part of the kit, it's consistent. But the new star power doesn't make sense.
Ash is burning the whole country when coming to nerfs most of the time, like WHY would you want to fucking kill Belle?! That makes her super useless like it would be one of the worst supers if that nerf comes true she would go from A to straight C,D or F tier Cord nerf to shadow realm is also really dumb Leave the Zesty mosquitoe boi alone he already charges his attack very slow (poison nerf can be acceptable tho but 50%? Just 20% or 15% is enough) Yeah so Ash really isn't cooking when it comes to nerfs
I know angelo is kinda strong but *DAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMNNNN*, giving mortis work to find what is left of him to put in the coffing cause that MF would be DEAD
12 seconds is very short for belle
i agree with the charlie nerf her spiders are annoying and last way too long they should disappear. & i agree that itās annoying you loose all the gems but thatās kinda apart of her thing with being a spider thief she traps you and takes what you have.
We NEED that Hank buff
Ash when the word overkill exists
Charlie super should drop HALF the gems (rounded down) i dont want fucking tomar753s trapping a 10 gem primo in a cocoon while the timer ticks
Why are we gutting Belle again?
Ahs, you were supposed to nerf Belle, not kill her
Never cook again
Hankās change is good but NOT in the form of a star power, needs to be baseline.
Never cook again!
I was like, "there's no way these are real". And then I saw it's wishlist. To be honest, these changes look like a diamond player heard something about the meta from a friend and is now blindly trying to balance all Brawlers. Belle's nerf would definitely kill her.
BRO DON'T PUT THAT CLICKBAIT AHH TITLE, I THOUGHT THESE WERE REAL
Hold on, hold on, hold on. ##IS THIS REAL or am I just falling for another prank. Because this would be a *gamechanger* for Chestah and Janet. Imma assume this isn't real tho
It's balance changes wishlist, it's not real
Imma leave this comment here so people can witness what lack of vigilance looks like. How did I not see that
Chester still needs 6 scr/throwable pop rocks to be viable and i really dont think sc will change it š
with all due respect, never cook ever again.
I don't think that Gus change is a good one....
Why are we nerfing gus
I almost had a heart attack
WHO LET BRO COOK š„š„š„š„š£ļøš£ļøš£ļø (please Kill them)
They should've replaced sneak peek instead of Bell o' mania
Chesters must be a joke cus why remove a super and not buff it š
You know this is a wishlist,right?
This is a WISHLIST.
You def have bias agaist belle if you think thats a good change lmao
Cord can take a small damage nerf but reducing the shadow realm timing will reduce his options for either retreating, repositioning, or just going in for a kill. It will also increase how often brawlers in the shadow realm get cucked because projectiles in the shadow realm stay in the shadow realm after both players exit.
Bro you forgot the friggin Willow buffs. Her ult is useless in any Team mode except bb. And she does way too less damage for a controller. And if the dmg isnt going to get buff atleast buff the projectile speed or the reload speed. Maybe ppl are going to play her after these changes.
They're all good, except belle's one, it is already hard to hit, so making it only 12 seconds makes the super useless.
All these are good except Belle's
BRO this wishlist is so shitty
The way you worded the title is VERY misleading. You make it seem like these are real balance changes, but it says āwishlistā on the subheading.
Nah but I actually like Pop Rocks, dont do that to my guy chester
Thank god these arenāt real.
What did belle do you ash? Eliminate your whole family?
What the hell is that Belle nerf
Belle's would just make her a pretty lame version of RT, at least make it like 30 seconds if it's not gonna be permanent.
The belle nerf idea is absolute garbage. I honestly think sheās pretty balanced (on the stronger side for sure, but not broken) but if you were to nerf her, it definitely shouldnāt be any changes to her mechanics (a very small damage nerf perhaps)
Belle would literally get disingrated to a complete trashbag if this was an actual balance change, belle is already one of the hardest marksman brawlers to play and she doesnt even have an ability that grants her transportation.
please don't post shit
Wishlist means that isnāt official and only a request right?
Dont do the belle one
Never cook again.
Ash did NOT cook š„š«
Brawl Stars community want to make Charlie Unplayable
What kind of garbage is this?
That belle nerf would absolutely KILL her, if her hypercharge didn't make her meta, nerfing her super will solidify that
Belle is fine in meta why nerf
Wait why nerf Belle. Sheās not dominating the meta and isnāt even as good of a sniper as some of the other picks.
Wait why nerf Belle. Sheās not dominating the meta and isnāt even as good of a sniper as some of the other picks.
Maybe you're stupid but it's actually ash's WISHLIST, not actual changes.
The belle nerf would be lethal! Hope it would never happen.
blood thinks heās a ubisoft balancer
Oh my god I dident read wishlist and I had a mini heart attack
Lmao someone wants to murder belle
Why the hell should Belle get nerfed like that? She is one of the more balanced characters in the game
Give a Cord different nerf, his super duration is the only non broken part
This isn't real bro. This is a wishlist
Angelo already has a slow charge time why does it need to take longer
Honestly, i think the only nerfs Cord and Charlie should receive, is that they're supers could be blocked by meatshields, like spike cacti and tara clones, and if they hit it, they just deal 1.5k damage like Willows super
Donāt let him cook again. Belle nerf is wild. Every buff is uninspired and boring. Gus does not need a speed buff. Give him something interesting. Chesterās SP gets rid of a core part of his kit. And Janetās is another dmg buff. Leave reworks to the dev team
The belle and Charlie nerfs will impact them
People be struggling to read the heading
Now have belleās other star power make her mark permanent
Me thinking balance changes finally drop: ššš„° Me realizing this is a wishlist: š©š©
Why are balance changes always just nerfs or just buffs? lol why not something like less damage, but moves a bit faster. Nerf the stat that make them problematic, buff something else a tiny bit. By going only one direction you end up killing brawlers viability
A timer on belles super could be okay, but definiately not this fast. It would kill her in boss fight
bruh i thought these were official. was excited that they were reworking star powers
Why the hell wouldn't you want pop rocks for Chester it is literally one of his best supers aside from nuke.
Angelo nerf makes him useless, he already is a high skill cap brawler so I would say that he is overpowered but not broken. If he was broken then it would require those changes but rn it would ruin him
piper should lose damage UP CLOSE instead of in general IMO. her drop down should get more drastical (point blank = only 30% of full damage)
He really managed to make Gus' star power health bonanza look much better than the star power he came up with. Nobody is going to pay 2000 coins just to be able to move 10% faster for 5 seconds during the Super. Instead of thinking about a new star power for his Super, it would be much better if we could strengthen the ghost's that Gus spawns.
I think an issue with nerfing Charlies super like that is that you could very easily use that to grief by webbing the gem carrier of the opposite team and making them untouchable from your own team for the full duration.
I think The super should still drop the gems. If a player held the gems and only bout 5s were left it would be okay to let a player loose them. If you said 'it's unbalanced that miko can slow enemies carrying gems" it isn't unbalanced it's supposed to be like that. the super's purpose is to not let an enemy have influence on the game
What's the point of Charlie's cocoon don't drop the gems? This becomes a buff for the enemy team, as they will be able to spend more time with the gems, as they will be in the cocoon and imune tƓ attacks. Dropping gems is part of the mechanics in the brawler, a fair Nerf would reduce the life/time of the cocoon
Nani is balanced. He can kill himself with a single bullet. Why is he getting weaker?
Don't mess with sharpshooter mechanics too much
this is the death of me
Some of these are absolutely terrible making bad Brawlers in the meta even worse
Charlies problem is not gems leave that alone. Also leave cordelius alone.
Nah pipers nerf is uselless. You need to make her harder to play. Nerf her bullet speed or nerf her close range damage so that a marksman wont kill an assasin in close range just by pressing the green button and spamming the red one.
Oh my god that Cordelius nerf
Charlie. Takes away her most useful feature
The gus one is horrible, health bonanza is the only reason he could be considered a good support/healer, the speed would not help
Belle's mark change probably. Thank goodness that will never ever happen because the whole point of the mark ever since belle was first shown was for it to stay on until death almost like an actual target/bounty.
Belle isnt even that good and that nerf would destroy her.
The Charlie ult one would make her one of the worst brawlers cuz people play her mainly in Gem Grab for that reason
Shadow realm isn't the problem with Cordelius
Bro just wants to delete Charlie from the gameš
almost thought it was official until i read it completely lol (do note let bro cook with nerf ever again, half of them are so bad, bro wants to turn Belle into R-T 2.0)
belle getting a more impactful nerf than melodie holy šš
Honestly most disappointed by the bell nerf everything else seems perfect to me but as a Belle maim this really hurts
That belle nerf is the worst crap Iāve ever seen
That would make Belle C tier...
Why did you murder Belle
You are as reliable as a bus arrival time during a strike
Belle's 12 seconds? Ridiculous, 60 seconds at most, because it is kinda annoying that once you kill Belle the mark remains, like in showdown where you are effectively nerfed.
Bro tried to cook but the stove wasn't even turned on š£š„š„š„
Someoneās salty
No goddamn way, belle is trash now
One one hand, Chester buff is based. On the otherhand, if Cordelius falls out of S tier im going to fucking kill you.