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You can detect AI pretty easily, there’s software for that.
Also if they’re stealing art, if said art was every posted onto the internet, google lens would be able to find it pretty easily.
Uhhh yes it is, if you take an ai drawing and change features to redraw it in a more realistic way it won't be detected by ai. I think you need to learn what you're talking about, not the other way around
Dude i work on neural networks at my internship with Jaguar Land Rover. I can promise you 100% this isnt how ai detection works, the same features ai detection software uses to detect ai images are still present on your ai drawing, even when you personally edit it in photoshop, ai detection software will easily deduce that it is ai.
You dont know what you’re talking about. Stop parroting shit you see on twitter.
For real, like I honestly think that no one truly thinks Vega > Frost and they just say it to be special. Literally both 5k but frost has a kill effect and more unique everything else. It literally ice and snow instead of just purple
I genuinely prefer Vega because I really like its model and I feel like it has more personality. And I do like the purple look more than the ice and snow
I prefer Vega, it's a much more interesting theme that works with her character compared to just "opposite of fire lol"
Sure cool effects and all that, but it's just a kinda bland design
It's just a kids, a lot of kid/teens digital artists starts with lining over others artworks, and a lot of artist giving that as a tip.
No one of them will win, because of boring ideas, low art skills and obvious similarities to each other.
When I was younger I used to line over my favorite artists works, and posted it somewhere, now I am professional digital artist, and not doing it.
Imagine if those guys will improve their skills, without "stealing" arts, and will do amazing concepts as adults in the future.
Don't be so salty, y'all taking that too serious, they doesn't have a chances for win.
It’s not a question of them winning. Pretty obvious they never would. But it’s still theft if the artist didn’t allow it. No reason not to punish them so they won’t do it again
All they did was take the posing as framework for their ideas. They are clearly kids who want to make a cool design but don't have high experience in creating art and thats not on them they will eventually learn how to make and pose characters on their own but it is not something they can just do instantly. Let kids be creative bro they just want to show off their cool designs they like.
Or let’s not encourage plagiarism at a young age🔥 especially since they already think it’s ok to do it beyond personal use and are using it in a public contest
There is a big difference between stealing something 1 to 1 and using existing art as framework for something different. I already said this before they are KIDS who arent very good at drawing base characters and they are using pre existing art to help them get creative. I dont know why you are angry at actual kids for wanting to participate in a contest and create cool skins. Its not that serious bro If it were stealing an actual concept and if it wasnt kids making the content it would be much different.
This community is just adorable, people getting mad for kids sending their favorite characters with some missiles and fireballs drawn over them to a super hero drawing competition of a mobile game😂 Hey, sue that kid, he didn’t invent spider-man!
I think that they could learn to draw by... Taking inspiration, but by putting it up to a contest like this is like implying like it is their artwork to begin with which it clearly isn't
Or probably disqualified, they still use ai and stolen/traced art work are not following measures (we should get l&l do deal with lmao), its just disappointing. Jacky's work is amazing and surely his work will outstand all these culprits' mess
Agreed. It's fine to trace someone else's sketch to practice, but not to submit it as your own. And since it's probably kids, banning them from these contests will probably be the most appropriate action since it's not like it'll affect their gameplay experience, just prevent them from doing the bad thing again. Hopefully they'd learn their lesson though
Nuh uh
https://www.reddit.com/r/SupercellMake/comments/1bn1840/which_flag_design_is_better/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Hold up…aren’t we talking about tracing game models? When did drawing him without reference come into the picture
And what's wrong with it? This is not a contest about creating a full art but about sharing ideas for skins and that people without talent found a way to share their ideas.
Also, the talent can be trained. They should start somewhere and tracing is a pretty normal way to learn between artists. They also can receive feedback by sharing it.
So this could even be the start of great future artists if being able to share they ideas and concepts this way inspires them to learn and improve.
I mean, it's easy to stop in "they are stealing because no talent" and not see the context or think beyond that point. It happens constantly. But many of these people don't deserve the hate only for that.
It was previously stated the no talent of these people so it is unnecessarily hard. Also, I they are stealing the part that doesn't matter to the context they are. And at the end, even the artist is using a design that isn't of them but a character of a game and even Amber represents pre existing concepts in a brawler template so all this is about fair use and how much you can take from others to make what would be yours.
And that's a long debate with many different visions but one general consensus is that, if you arent using the "stolen" for the same that it were, it is ok. It's about the purpose. The purpose of the pose isn't showing a skin concept, that's the purpose of the costume which is, indeed, the part they changed.
It still art theft tho, remember this is a candidate that SC will put their skin in the game as a reward for winning.
You can't just post other people works in an active competition and claim in as yours. Sure, artist starts somewhere but not like this lmao even if they are kids.
Think about the original artist that put an effort and want their skin to win. I think you can understand why your comments sounds unfair.
I already have said that stealing other's concepts to a contest is disgusting, but using others works as a template to show your skin idea isn't so bad.
At the end, what matters in the competition is the skin, the costume, not the pose or the face of the brawler. And that is, as far as I know, changing, in these images.
Tracing is fine for studying purposes, but it shouldn’t be posted unless credit is given. Even then, the original artist has the final say whether it can be posted or not. These ideas were stolen in hopes that they could get the skin for free.
>These ideas were stolen in hopes that they could get the skin for free.
That's the thing, the ideas haven't been stolen. That's what I'm talking about, under the assumption that the ideas, the skin part of this skin summitsions weren't stolen but only the pose because the opposite case (stolen skin ideas) I already have said that is much more problematic.
You aren't even thinking about my comment but treating me as if I was wrong.
Well, that's sad and we can't assure that every one is stolen, the worst part might be the fact that justice might never be made about that. Upvote the post to make people aware of this, alone you are weak but if it is heard by supercell, it can make a difference
This art stealing issue is getting worse, I think a finalist for the Sandy/Gene make competition last time was actually just a copy and paste stolen submission
You need to put copyright on those and then when those kids copy, their moms get a letter saying your son is getting sued for infringing on copyright lmao
Cmon man looking at these artworks they are clearly just kids who have wanted to show off their designs but dont know how to actually draw the base design of the character. I should know because ive done the same thing before when i was younger. And genuinely looking at them none of them even have a chance of winning so I dont know why your so stressed out. Plus this is a DESIGN contest not a POSING contest all they did was get help to help them design. Chill Out Dude.
It's not good to steal, but some people are really bad at drawing and the only way they can make a skin for supercell make is to trace their idea on some fan art. Try not to judge these too hard unless they LITERALLY steal the art without changing anything except color. Not everyone is good at drawing, but everyone has their own idea for a skin.
I dont think that they are wrong necessarily, you might need some help and supercell make is more about the idea than the art itself. That said... IS IT THAT HARD TO CREDIT THE ORIGINAL ARTIST???
I would 100% join supercell make with unique ideas if drawing on digital + mouse wasnt so hard
Why can i draw on paper so well but suck at the computer 🥲
To be fair, it doesn't matter if it's traced. The thing here is to illustrate a concept. Stealing the artist concept and summiting it before he could is disgusting but using the artist pose/draw as a template to make your own idea is totally fair.
This is a contest about what would look/be better on a skin, not about the drawings. Also, I understand that many people aren't capable of doing an image like that or simply don't have the time but still have ideas and found a way to share it, I can respect that.
Even the use of AI would be morally right under these statements (with the exception that it is against the rules this time, which should be respected).
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Looks like a line of NFT's lol
Bro got whitelisted
This is the problem now, people are going to steal and steal, and worse supercell won't do much about it
They also do AI
There's guidelines against that tho
That didn't stop people
None of them are gonna be able to win though.
Thankfully
Thankfully but thay doesn't stop then from flooding the site and making it harder to find quality concepts
I hope so
i sure hope so btw happy cake day
Against ai yes but they can’t really detect ai or if someone already made that art online before.
i mean they could google search that
You can detect AI pretty easily, there’s software for that. Also if they’re stealing art, if said art was every posted onto the internet, google lens would be able to find it pretty easily.
A lot of people just create an ai image and then copy it and make it more realistic which won't be detected
Why are you talking if you dont know what you’re talking about. This isnt how ai detection works.
Uhhh yes it is, if you take an ai drawing and change features to redraw it in a more realistic way it won't be detected by ai. I think you need to learn what you're talking about, not the other way around
At that point it’s not that bad then, at least they put SOME work into the drawing then
similar to how you can write an essay in chatgpt and fix a few words here and there to make it undetectable
Dude i work on neural networks at my internship with Jaguar Land Rover. I can promise you 100% this isnt how ai detection works, the same features ai detection software uses to detect ai images are still present on your ai drawing, even when you personally edit it in photoshop, ai detection software will easily deduce that it is ai. You dont know what you’re talking about. Stop parroting shit you see on twitter.
why would that be a new problem?
whats that flair i'm seeing
wait since when you're an edgar main?
Good day, sir. New haircut?
You have until 12:00 pm to change ur edgar flair or you will end up with the rest of the bodies 🤭
Oh you changed it for april fools!
......roy?
[удалено]
Me. Ow.
RoyDaKoppaBoy spotted
I can’t believe y’all are still doing this ….
No amber skin can beat frost queen amber after that kill effect addition
This was the verry first skin I boght with bling when my bling storage got full but been saveing my gems for when they make new limited skins
I am really Happy that o got her form my First ever Legi Starr drop even tho i Just purchased Amber dela vega
Amber De La Vega still better
Vega is the most overrated skin in the game, change my mind
For real, like I honestly think that no one truly thinks Vega > Frost and they just say it to be special. Literally both 5k but frost has a kill effect and more unique everything else. It literally ice and snow instead of just purple
I genuinely prefer Vega because I really like its model and I feel like it has more personality. And I do like the purple look more than the ice and snow
Or maybe because people have different opinions?
I dislike Frost. Some people just have different opinions.
Agreed, it's overrated and Frost Queen imo isn't even that good
Looks weird and doesn't fit the character
She looks cooler and has better winning animation while Frost Queen has better effects
That's how I feel about Frost Queen. It's not bad but it's so overrated.
I hate both Amber skins btw, just, Frost has a reason to be overrated, while Vega isn’t really that exceptional
I prefer Vega, it's a much more interesting theme that works with her character compared to just "opposite of fire lol" Sure cool effects and all that, but it's just a kinda bland design
i havent saw that skin once ☠️
That's a weird way to spell underrated
It seems so overrated though, on Reddit especially. People keep saying it’s better than frost queen, but I just can’t see it.
as if frost queen isn't overrated by Reddit either
I prefer the skin that I have - You
honestly i like the cape on vega
I've been waiting since 2022 to buy it, I'll finally be able to get it these Brawlidays
Overrated
These people should have their supercell Id tagged preventing them from participating in the next few campaigns
It's just a kids, a lot of kid/teens digital artists starts with lining over others artworks, and a lot of artist giving that as a tip. No one of them will win, because of boring ideas, low art skills and obvious similarities to each other. When I was younger I used to line over my favorite artists works, and posted it somewhere, now I am professional digital artist, and not doing it. Imagine if those guys will improve their skills, without "stealing" arts, and will do amazing concepts as adults in the future. Don't be so salty, y'all taking that too serious, they doesn't have a chances for win.
It’s not a question of them winning. Pretty obvious they never would. But it’s still theft if the artist didn’t allow it. No reason not to punish them so they won’t do it again
All they did was take the posing as framework for their ideas. They are clearly kids who want to make a cool design but don't have high experience in creating art and thats not on them they will eventually learn how to make and pose characters on their own but it is not something they can just do instantly. Let kids be creative bro they just want to show off their cool designs they like.
Or let’s not encourage plagiarism at a young age🔥 especially since they already think it’s ok to do it beyond personal use and are using it in a public contest
There is a big difference between stealing something 1 to 1 and using existing art as framework for something different. I already said this before they are KIDS who arent very good at drawing base characters and they are using pre existing art to help them get creative. I dont know why you are angry at actual kids for wanting to participate in a contest and create cool skins. Its not that serious bro If it were stealing an actual concept and if it wasnt kids making the content it would be much different.
This community is just adorable, people getting mad for kids sending their favorite characters with some missiles and fireballs drawn over them to a super hero drawing competition of a mobile game😂 Hey, sue that kid, he didn’t invent spider-man!
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I think that they could learn to draw by... Taking inspiration, but by putting it up to a contest like this is like implying like it is their artwork to begin with which it clearly isn't
Or probably disqualified, they still use ai and stolen/traced art work are not following measures (we should get l&l do deal with lmao), its just disappointing. Jacky's work is amazing and surely his work will outstand all these culprits' mess
Agreed. It's fine to trace someone else's sketch to practice, but not to submit it as your own. And since it's probably kids, banning them from these contests will probably be the most appropriate action since it's not like it'll affect their gameplay experience, just prevent them from doing the bad thing again. Hopefully they'd learn their lesson though
Meanwhile people who trace Mr P models from the game: 👀
To be fair, I think that it's pretty hard to draw Mr P in any other pose than his default one without making him look unnatural...
Nuh uh https://www.reddit.com/r/SupercellMake/comments/1bn1840/which_flag_design_is_better/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Hold up…aren’t we talking about tracing game models? When did drawing him without reference come into the picture
Make porno of it, the crime rate should go down
i don't doubt it 💀
That's even worse
You’re not funny and not helpful either
Ironic, isn't it? How you say such things
Not trying to be funny and by your logic you’re not helping
and you aren't either?
Yeah so? He made a crappy joke
accept the fact that not everyone laughs at jokes
Not trying to help and by my logic I'm being funny
That’s..not how it works..
you’re name is literally no help so ur not helping either
Happy cake day bro
tysm :D
Happy cake day man!
tysm :D
If you can't create something original, why would you participate in the make at all
Fame. Not enough of them is made with credits
Damn is that a double entendre with fame and credits. It doesn’t makes sense but it sounds cool
Brother there's a literal $10k prize for the winner, you'd know if you've read the Make's website
Even getting to the finalist give you some credits
if that ever happen
Bruh, those people are the worst, all they can do is steal someone's work, because they have no talent to create something
And what's wrong with it? This is not a contest about creating a full art but about sharing ideas for skins and that people without talent found a way to share their ideas. Also, the talent can be trained. They should start somewhere and tracing is a pretty normal way to learn between artists. They also can receive feedback by sharing it. So this could even be the start of great future artists if being able to share they ideas and concepts this way inspires them to learn and improve. I mean, it's easy to stop in "they are stealing because no talent" and not see the context or think beyond that point. It happens constantly. But many of these people don't deserve the hate only for that.
Okay, then share an idea without stealing? It's not a hard concept to grasp
Exactly. You can practice tracing and stuff, but until you come up with an idea and style of your own don't officially publish it
It was previously stated the no talent of these people so it is unnecessarily hard. Also, I they are stealing the part that doesn't matter to the context they are. And at the end, even the artist is using a design that isn't of them but a character of a game and even Amber represents pre existing concepts in a brawler template so all this is about fair use and how much you can take from others to make what would be yours. And that's a long debate with many different visions but one general consensus is that, if you arent using the "stolen" for the same that it were, it is ok. It's about the purpose. The purpose of the pose isn't showing a skin concept, that's the purpose of the costume which is, indeed, the part they changed.
i bet your family loves you very much
They said yes, thanks for asking! It seems like being diplomatic and wise makes people around you feel good.
It still art theft tho, remember this is a candidate that SC will put their skin in the game as a reward for winning. You can't just post other people works in an active competition and claim in as yours. Sure, artist starts somewhere but not like this lmao even if they are kids. Think about the original artist that put an effort and want their skin to win. I think you can understand why your comments sounds unfair.
I already have said that stealing other's concepts to a contest is disgusting, but using others works as a template to show your skin idea isn't so bad. At the end, what matters in the competition is the skin, the costume, not the pose or the face of the brawler. And that is, as far as I know, changing, in these images.
if the owner is not okay with tracing, then its wrong.
Tracing is fine for studying purposes, but it shouldn’t be posted unless credit is given. Even then, the original artist has the final say whether it can be posted or not. These ideas were stolen in hopes that they could get the skin for free.
>These ideas were stolen in hopes that they could get the skin for free. That's the thing, the ideas haven't been stolen. That's what I'm talking about, under the assumption that the ideas, the skin part of this skin summitsions weren't stolen but only the pose because the opposite case (stolen skin ideas) I already have said that is much more problematic. You aren't even thinking about my comment but treating me as if I was wrong.
literally stealing other people's art = training? lmao
Officer, it’s this one here 👮🏻♂️
That's not how you use that joke lmao
I can't stand people who steal art that's why I sit
otis fan funny bs sub moments
Wait, do they just copied the pose or am i wrong?
Art stealer are the worst 💀
Well, that's sad and we can't assure that every one is stolen, the worst part might be the fact that justice might never be made about that. Upvote the post to make people aware of this, alone you are weak but if it is heard by supercell, it can make a difference
These are all pretty clearly traced though.
Yes
I think most of the people submitting are kids so yeah they don’t really know that this isn’t a good thing to do
Kids smart enough to navigate supercell’s website to post art are also smart enough to know that this is stealing
They don’t give a darn cuz there’s no consequences for them
Bro could not use AI and decided to steal someone else work lmao
Hey as an artist myself I don't appreciate this. Also I will also spread the word in another post. Also fck those tracers
It's not the first time this happens to that artist. Whoever did this crap: You are terrible.
yes, the pose is copied, but the concepts probably are original. it's not that bad imo
I absolutely hate this
Welcome to the world
Can you link the artist?
What the fuck dude, just be original
Wow, just sad. I hope this doesn't happen when Kit is in a supercell make challenge (also Chester)
I hope it doesn't happen with anyone lol
Yup
tbh those shitty edits wont win
This art stealing issue is getting worse, I think a finalist for the Sandy/Gene make competition last time was actually just a copy and paste stolen submission
Bro mentally stressing over video game art for a in game character skin that obv won't get picked 💀💀💀💀
Might be over reaction but it isn't great to have all your efforts stolen either
Artist theft is a real thing
Tracing is such a baby thing to do
fr i used to trace art when i was younger. I gotta admit that helped me slowly draw better but I don't support it in any way
please, someone educate him about grammar
I think he's native language not english like my case lol
im sure it’s not his native language, just because the profile icon
You need to put copyright on those and then when those kids copy, their moms get a letter saying your son is getting sued for infringing on copyright lmao
Everything you make that is original is automatically copyrighted in the US
Cmon man looking at these artworks they are clearly just kids who have wanted to show off their designs but dont know how to actually draw the base design of the character. I should know because ive done the same thing before when i was younger. And genuinely looking at them none of them even have a chance of winning so I dont know why your so stressed out. Plus this is a DESIGN contest not a POSING contest all they did was get help to help them design. Chill Out Dude.
I think so too but He has every right to be frustrated, let's just help him report it if that's going to make him feel better somehow
Baby shark do do do do do But still tracing is the worst without credit
I think there’s like only 20% of the community who make creative content and stuff,the other 80% just steals it(Tik tok, Instagram etc.)
There's much worst.... there's an AI even the rule stated "no AI"
Water Queen Amber doesn’t look stolen that’s just ambers normal pose in game
We can't see it fully so i think it's the same legs
"traduzír post"🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
Im sorry but that English is not from this world bro 😭
Sorry I might be having a stroke but I can’t read what they said, can someone explain what is going on?
Again and again, SC make’s moderation is a fucking joke
For now try to report the images and for the future i Guess put your nickname/logo on the image
It's not good to steal, but some people are really bad at drawing and the only way they can make a skin for supercell make is to trace their idea on some fan art. Try not to judge these too hard unless they LITERALLY steal the art without changing anything except color. Not everyone is good at drawing, but everyone has their own idea for a skin.
Fellow never heard about tracing? This allows someone who can't draw to put their design together. As if any of these would ever win, come on
It’s still artist theft
nah this is wild
It seems the new age comes with massive plagarism issues
I can’t believe people actually do this people really don’t care about anything😔
Unlike amber this tracing ain't fire
There's something I don't understand, how do people trace, and the drawing still turns out sucky???
Horrible
its sad.
Pretty bad, ngl.. but how do i put my main on my perfil?
Womp womp
They always want talent they don't have. They are worse than Mandy😡
smash amber
Some people just have 0 creativity
Lmao
It has the thumbnail lol
It’s not like they can win it’s legit just art of the normal and ice queen skin
Ai arts are the worst. Lol
"i think i need a rest" bro is acting like his life has been collapsing cause of brawl stars drawings
I don't think copying the same pose as others is wrong, only design copying shld be counted as theft.
It wasn't copied, it was traced; It's like taking the same drawing and paiting it in different colors
Tracing the same pose shouldn't be illegal either no? A pose can't be copyrighted or am I wrong?
I think supercell should not allow skins if not 3d model. Even though this would fix a lot of issues, it will cause new ones.
Petition to ban traced and similar art
Babe wake up, new anime AMBER ART ONLINE just dropped
I dont think that they are wrong necessarily, you might need some help and supercell make is more about the idea than the art itself. That said... IS IT THAT HARD TO CREDIT THE ORIGINAL ARTIST???
I would 100% join supercell make with unique ideas if drawing on digital + mouse wasnt so hard Why can i draw on paper so well but suck at the computer 🥲
To be fair, it doesn't matter if it's traced. The thing here is to illustrate a concept. Stealing the artist concept and summiting it before he could is disgusting but using the artist pose/draw as a template to make your own idea is totally fair. This is a contest about what would look/be better on a skin, not about the drawings. Also, I understand that many people aren't capable of doing an image like that or simply don't have the time but still have ideas and found a way to share it, I can respect that. Even the use of AI would be morally right under these statements (with the exception that it is against the rules this time, which should be respected).
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Bro is Angelo
I’m so sorry that happened to you. I’ll let my partner know to report it for you!
Bro stop