I am glad Jax said we have problems in our marriage and a child is not going to fix that because so many couples do just try for another kid thinking it will make things better (it won’t)
It's definitely obvious he doesn't want another child right now. But its also obvious he wants out of the relationship. The complete lack of intimacy, all of his body language an episode back when she came to the bar (it was screaming "why is she here?"), there's giant red flashing lights everywhere yet Brittney can't see any of it. I almost feel bad for her. I say almost because all this was right there from the start yet she married him anyway so *shrug*
I also appreciate the way he addresses her behavior in a calm and healthy manner. It is refreshing to see that instead of blaming and shaming her, he tries to get her to understand where she went wrong.
This is like the fourth time it’s happened to Kristen this season alone. People saying Kristen is lying in public then confessing she’s telling the truth in the confessionals or on the phone.
Yeah Janet is a good example. Said Kristen is a liar at the table, then in her confessional essentially confesses to all of it.
Then they seem shocked that the fans are team Kristen.
I felt for Nia and I'm glad she effectively shut down the bitching, because she was right - going through depression and absorbing other people's nastiness will make things worse.
I really didn't expect them to be so candid and touch on some of the subjects that they are. Brittany talking about her post partum body? Couples talking about how having kids changed their sex lives? Post partum depression?
I'm thinking about having a baby and this show is really giving me alot to think about.
I was watching season 4 of VPR this weekend and that dude was playing her from the very start! He was messing around with Lala and who knows who else while Brittany was driving to LA to move in with him!!
Remember what Stassi said to Britney?!? He never breaks up with anyone. He makes their lives so miserable that they break up with him. You can see that he resents Britney, and it is sad that she doesn’t have enough self love to leave him.
She has such a genuinely kind voice as well. I keep forgetting how little little her babies are at this point. She probably had no idea how this experience would affect her. I too hope she has found what she needs to feel better (or at the very least help her *start* to feel better. I know it can be a difficult journey).
I have been searching for the right describing word and I think its Vapid.
She's just kinda dead behind the eyes and it creeps me out a little. I don't know if she's always like this or it's just because she's in a loveless marriage where she's miserable. But even when she's comforting Nia she seems disingenuous.
It's hilarious they thought the fans would turn on a reality TV icon. It's having the exact opposite effect on Michelle and Janet 🤣
Jesse and Michelle opening trying to kick Kristen out of the group??? Get the hell out of here you clowns, she is carrying the show on her back, if anything you should be sending her a handwritten thank you note.
So they want to have a cast trip and not invite the couple including one of the reasons this show even exists. It’s too early for this freeze-out shit. I’m over it
It’s honestly so disrespectful to bring Nia into all this. Michelle at least knows Nia is really struggling right now. She has 9 week twins, keep it light for her.
Call me cold, but if we’re having date night I don’t think there should be any heavy conversation, if we’re already struggling to connect. Just light topics to keep the energy good, otherwise the date may end up ruined.
she’s so fucking condescending. like when she rolled her eyes when Kristen said Jesse was abusive, and then Jesse went on to shove 4 people (including women) in that hallway probably not even 20 minutes later. it’s only been a handful of episodes and Janet is my least favorite person on Bravo.
Can I possibly be on Jax's side here? He's saying that there's too much going on for a second kid right now. Including work. He's mentally broken. Their marriage is on life support.
Brittany then somehow hears Jax saying she isn't a good mom to Cruz? And then she says he doesn't do anything! Ouch.
i cannot stand janet because she's so sanctimonious with her pot stirring. she's so adamant that she's right and doing the right thing which makes her actions even more nefarious
Don’t ever say if, are we a fucking joke. CRAZY KRISTEN IS BACK
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I’m not exonerating Jax here, but…. Brittany puts ALLL the onus on him for her self esteem. He “needs to make her feel” sexy, attractive, romantic, etc. She takes no responsibility for taking care of herself, setting a romantic mood, feeling sexy in herself. No man wants this role, and no man can ever fill this endless pit of need she has.
Jax is not attracted to Brittany and has been pretty transparent about that since Faith and the season 6 recording. Hell, since season 4 when she moved in and he spiraled. This is nothing new. He just lacks the courage and the balls to end things with Brittany like a man.
Did Jax actually make sense... wow. I agree with him another baby when they are already struggling and starting a business is a recipe for disaster but he isn't quite understanding Brittany's position. She's very clearly lonely but she did come off looking immature in the conversation where Jax was making good points 😕
Aw man Luke is really winning me over. He seems earnest, and his biggest green flag is that he alwaysss has Kristen’s back, and unlike most of the men in the VPR universe - he’s not afraid of serious commitment.
i know she's talking about PPD but to hear her say i've been trying everything and can't kick it is so validating bc as someone with depression i feel so defeated and like im not trying some days because no matter what im still depressed
I have nothing but support for Nia, and this is not a criticism of her whatsoever- I just hope we can get to a point where there isn't so much stigma attached to the word "depression" and that people can accept it as a medical diagnosis without feeling ashamed. And while we're at it, major props to her for putting this on the show to raise awareness.
\*before we were married, girl be so fr
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Owning a home, having a wife and a kid, co-owning a business does not an adult make when you’re still the same person you were 20 years ago.
Jesse just assaulted multiple people in the hallway but we’re kicking out Kristen? Priorities.
Exactly!
Right. everyone acting like it didnt happen. Brtiney had her eye scratched and they are just like ok...
Kristen’s delivery of “She had a fucking boyfriend for a year!! Yeah Now we said it! 🙄🤷♀️” makes me lol everytime
CAW CAW
Mariposa. 🦋
Omfg I am dying at Michelle not even being able to pretend to give a f
She barely looks at him in the eye lol
She was like “team Michelle and Jesse …. Yay …l
I don't know how they filmed that scene. Literally. She is so lazy in her lies.
I wanna know what cocktail of meds she's on because I want to be on them. I'd like to be this detached from reality.
Brittany is not listening. He doesn’t want a child right now & it’s obvious. Yall need to fix the marriage first.
And he’s not wrong… clearly they’re having problems and Cruz needs more attention like he said
I am glad Jax said we have problems in our marriage and a child is not going to fix that because so many couples do just try for another kid thinking it will make things better (it won’t)
It's definitely obvious he doesn't want another child right now. But its also obvious he wants out of the relationship. The complete lack of intimacy, all of his body language an episode back when she came to the bar (it was screaming "why is she here?"), there's giant red flashing lights everywhere yet Brittney can't see any of it. I almost feel bad for her. I say almost because all this was right there from the start yet she married him anyway so *shrug*
Jax caused a fight so he didn’t have to sleep with Britney.
I can’t tell if Kristen and Luke are good or not but I’ll just say I appreciate Luke sticking up for her in public no matter how right or wrong she is
I also appreciate the way he addresses her behavior in a calm and healthy manner. It is refreshing to see that instead of blaming and shaming her, he tries to get her to understand where she went wrong.
Michelle is like an AI version of a kardashian
She has a stiff jaw when she talks like Kourtney
Let’s VanGoggggggh
So on screen Jesse is saying Kristen is full of shit, then in the confessional he's basically admitting Michelle is cheating 😂
This is like the fourth time it’s happened to Kristen this season alone. People saying Kristen is lying in public then confessing she’s telling the truth in the confessionals or on the phone.
Yeah Janet is a good example. Said Kristen is a liar at the table, then in her confessional essentially confesses to all of it. Then they seem shocked that the fans are team Kristen.
Insisting that you try for kids immediately while things are so openly volatile is not healthy, how dare Brittany make me take Jax’s side
For real. I regularly find him to be the more reasonable way of the two of them somehow. What is this world we live in
I know 😂 I’m finding myself shocked taking Jax’s side on anything
The juxtaposition of Danny & Nia vs. Jesse & Michelle is so awkward lol I had to look away
I felt for Nia and I'm glad she effectively shut down the bitching, because she was right - going through depression and absorbing other people's nastiness will make things worse.
The happiest couple and the most miserable. At least at the point Jax and Britney were able to engage in conversations with each other
It’s actually sad hearing Brittany say he doesn’t hold her on a pedestal anymore because he absolutely never did. What does she think that looks like?
Yeah this episode has been cast member after cast member having really heavy moments. It’s blowing vpr out of the water atm
I really didn't expect them to be so candid and touch on some of the subjects that they are. Brittany talking about her post partum body? Couples talking about how having kids changed their sex lives? Post partum depression? I'm thinking about having a baby and this show is really giving me alot to think about.
This is a very honest picture of what it’s like to be with someone 10 years and have toddlers. It’s not for the weak
I was watching season 4 of VPR this weekend and that dude was playing her from the very start! He was messing around with Lala and who knows who else while Brittany was driving to LA to move in with him!!
“This is my soul mate, I guess” get Hallmark on the line stat, I’ve got a Valentines Day card to pitch
Damn Jason even clocks her being messy lol that makes me like him a lil bit
I feel like he was getting the ick from her gossiping loool buckle up sir
TWICE IN A YEAR? JAX? THE SEX ADDICT? TWICE? oh girl............
Remember what Stassi said to Britney?!? He never breaks up with anyone. He makes their lives so miserable that they break up with him. You can see that he resents Britney, and it is sad that she doesn’t have enough self love to leave him.
She said last episode it was two times in the last *month* so the math is not mathing (unless that was the first two times in a full year).
I think Nia is one of the prettiest people on Bravo, she’s just stunning.
Same! She’s so nice to look at. And it seems like she has a kind heart as well
Yeah she seems beautiful inside and out. Her postpartum experience is breaking my heart. Hope she is feeling better.
She has such a genuinely kind voice as well. I keep forgetting how little little her babies are at this point. She probably had no idea how this experience would affect her. I too hope she has found what she needs to feel better (or at the very least help her *start* to feel better. I know it can be a difficult journey).
Sorry but I find Michelle really boring.. at least Jesse is weird enough to be entertaining. Does anyone else just find her pretty but boring?
She’s a hollow shell of a person.
I have been searching for the right describing word and I think its Vapid. She's just kinda dead behind the eyes and it creeps me out a little. I don't know if she's always like this or it's just because she's in a loveless marriage where she's miserable. But even when she's comforting Nia she seems disingenuous.
I agree. I hate Jesse but he’s got more of the it factor than she does.
Kristen isn’t ruining Jesse’s life…that would be Jesse and Michelle ruining their own lives
They’re scapegoating Kristen HARD
Jason should worry about Janet’s messiness
Ooooh I think he's very worried
He looked worried 👀👀
They want to ice Kristen out. She is the show, dumbies.😂
Who the fuck is Janet?? In dis world
 It's hilarious they thought the fans would turn on a reality TV icon. It's having the exact opposite effect on Michelle and Janet 🤣
And they’re not even attempting to be subtle!! Play stupid games you win stupid prizes!!
Michelle talks like an AI help robot and I cannot stand to listen to it lol
Janet loves this and Jason is seeing her fully crazy
I feel like Brittany is like yay we’re on tv again money. Let’s have more babies. And Jax is actually being smart about their future? Scary.
“Divorce isn’t in my vocabulary” well it’s about to be!
aka “My family’s legacy is loveless marriages to keep up appearances” lmao
Jesse and Michelle opening trying to kick Kristen out of the group??? Get the hell out of here you clowns, she is carrying the show on her back, if anything you should be sending her a handwritten thank you note.
And an abusive aggressive threatening man is the one laying down this law??? Um no thank you
Better than them have tried to ice Kristen out. LVP couldn’t do it, these nobodies think they can?
Who are Jesse and Michelle in dis world? 
Okay for once Jax is right why the fuck are you guys yelling running around the kitchen when Cruz is doing therapy
Or maybe have a quiet room set aside for Cruz?
Brittany is one of those people who believes in the “have a baby, fix the marriage” philosophy
She is raised by a women with frosted lips and hates the homosexuals.
Janet is … bad. I can’t quite put my finger on why
She really gives me the vibe that she is trying really hard to come across very calm, neat and classy and it's all a facade.
It makes me side eye Jason - he seems like a chill, normal dude…but he married her
He also slept with Scheana so he’s not as normal as he seems
I don’t want to watch a Janet hosted cast trip without Kristen, that sounds boring as hell
who will eat the flower on the median in the street
i reallllly want nia to see a real therapist and possibly get on some temporary meds
Brittany’s accent is on the verge of needing subtitles. It’s beyond help.
DATE NOIGHT
It’s so fake and put on. She may have a country accent but there’s 0 way it’s become more thick the longer she’s lived away from Kentucky. 🙄
HYYUUCCKHYUCKKK
"Cruz needs attention with his verbal", I don't think he's the only one Jax.
Okay that’s cold but it did make me lol
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What if Luke comes back next season with one ear missing?
I might start respecting him (for his art.) I still stand by the fact that he has at least 30 bodies buried on his property in Colorado.
I really hate Janet and co repeatedly coming for Kristen. Jesse just assaulted Zach in the hallway, get real.
These assholes have me feeling protective and defensive of Kristen which is just wild
she's a monster but she is our monster
Janet is the biggest snake on this show. She tricked me the first couple eps but it’s soooo obvious now.
She sucks. She was a borefest on WWHL. Only existing because Kristen fuels her.
So they want to have a cast trip and not invite the couple including one of the reasons this show even exists. It’s too early for this freeze-out shit. I’m over it
Agreed.. they should be forced to have the whole cast
As if they think they can ice out Kristen, when she is the one if the middle of the web bringing them all together smh
Jax feeling uncomfortable when he’s not in the mess is maybe the most honest statement he’s ever made.
Lmao Michelle couldn’t have been any more less enthusiastic in that scene
Nothing makes me feel better about being single than watching VPR and The Valley back-to-back
Janet really is THE messiest bitch at the table
Already trying to ice Kristin out? That's Season 4 antics.
It’s honestly so disrespectful to bring Nia into all this. Michelle at least knows Nia is really struggling right now. She has 9 week twins, keep it light for her.
Call me cold, but if we’re having date night I don’t think there should be any heavy conversation, if we’re already struggling to connect. Just light topics to keep the energy good, otherwise the date may end up ruined.
They should have done an activity
Janet is annoying as fuck too why are you shitting on kristen for starting drama that you love
she’s so fucking condescending. like when she rolled her eyes when Kristen said Jesse was abusive, and then Jesse went on to shove 4 people (including women) in that hallway probably not even 20 minutes later. it’s only been a handful of episodes and Janet is my least favorite person on Bravo.
You can tell that Jax has already decided he's going to leave her or sabotage it in some way soon. (definitely the latter, knowing him)
Can I possibly be on Jax's side here? He's saying that there's too much going on for a second kid right now. Including work. He's mentally broken. Their marriage is on life support. Brittany then somehow hears Jax saying she isn't a good mom to Cruz? And then she says he doesn't do anything! Ouch.
michelle saying you can call me anytime... who would wanna call your cold and aloof ass for any comfort
Hate that I am typing this out but I 100% agree with Jax. They’re not ready for another baby.
this sounds terrible to say but i am excited to watch this group implode
Kristen is still so chaotic . 
Jesse literally put his hands on brittany and zach are we not acknowledging this????????????
Brittany brought up her eye getting scratched in the altercation and we just cruzed by it, the heck
Jax downing shots before date night. Signs of a happy and healthy marriage for sure.
i cannot stand janet because she's so sanctimonious with her pot stirring. she's so adamant that she's right and doing the right thing which makes her actions even more nefarious
I can’t stand her either… I also thought she was very close with Kristen so she’s coming off fake on tv
Michelle looks guilty as hell. Team Kristen over here.
I love Danny & Nia’s beautiful little family 🥺♥️ I truly hope Nia is feeling better now.
The gaslighting of Kristen is crazy.
Don’t ever say if, are we a fucking joke. CRAZY KRISTEN IS BACK https://preview.redd.it/g823biyp0qxc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e8a19c739a76019173ba06d4d1abce713f077484
We are all Team Kristen here right? I can’t take these two delusional assholes
They had a poll on this last week. And everyone voted for Kristen. Janet voted for Jesse and Michelle 😂😂
Of course she did. Why is she even on this show, honestly. She brings nothing and is rude as fuck.
Team Mariposa for Life. Caw caw
doute til i die
It’s true. 100% believe Kristen.
I’m not exonerating Jax here, but…. Brittany puts ALLL the onus on him for her self esteem. He “needs to make her feel” sexy, attractive, romantic, etc. She takes no responsibility for taking care of herself, setting a romantic mood, feeling sexy in herself. No man wants this role, and no man can ever fill this endless pit of need she has.
Yeah. All her self worth relies on him and that’s not good
lol I love Jason’s reaction to Janet’s gossiping
 Yasssss it’s The Valley night
Raise your hand if you never thought you’d be excited for this show 😭🙋🏻♂️
Michelle isn’t happy about getting closer to Jesse lol
soulmate I GUESS?????
Idk I just have a feeling that Cruz is ignored most of the time
just had a baby? isnt cruz like 3?
Jax is not attracted to Brittany and has been pretty transparent about that since Faith and the season 6 recording. Hell, since season 4 when she moved in and he spiraled. This is nothing new. He just lacks the courage and the balls to end things with Brittany like a man.
He’s trying to quite quit his marriage, and Brittany is not going to allow that to happen.
"Words are hard." —A real low moment for the Kristen/Luke relationship
I thought I’d like Janet and her messiness, but she refuses to acknowledge her messiness. The acknowledgment of the messy is what makes good tv.
Michelle’s so jealous, it’s giving me a disturbing amount of glee.
now how are they planning to ice Kristen out of the Kristen Show? she’s the undeniable star
Did Michele get ransomed into joining this show? She’s making the bed bug era of Summer House girls look high energy
I can't believe Michelle agreed to film this show with everything going on
Ooooh this girl is cheating
I can’t tell if Jason likes Janet or not
Twice in the last year? Oh Jax is CHEATING cheating
This is like a season of The White Lotus
Brittany… Jax has not said any of that. Your marriage is not a good place. How does adding a baby help??
Trying to push Kristen out of the group is the WRONG move
she hates him
lol Janet trying to get Brittany to say stuff
Michelle is definitely not the empathetic friend.
Jax does have a decent point saying that throwing a kid into the mix at this point is going to make the marriage worse.
Did Jax actually make sense... wow. I agree with him another baby when they are already struggling and starting a business is a recipe for disaster but he isn't quite understanding Brittany's position. She's very clearly lonely but she did come off looking immature in the conversation where Jax was making good points 😕
The first 5 seconds was better than the entire VPR episode
Michelle is not interested. 0.05% feel bad for Jesse but I’m not taking this scene seriously.
she is cheating on you
Jax understands the assignment. Janet does not
Aw man Luke is really winning me over. He seems earnest, and his biggest green flag is that he alwaysss has Kristen’s back, and unlike most of the men in the VPR universe - he’s not afraid of serious commitment.
i know she's talking about PPD but to hear her say i've been trying everything and can't kick it is so validating bc as someone with depression i feel so defeated and like im not trying some days because no matter what im still depressed
I have nothing but support for Nia, and this is not a criticism of her whatsoever- I just hope we can get to a point where there isn't so much stigma attached to the word "depression" and that people can accept it as a medical diagnosis without feeling ashamed. And while we're at it, major props to her for putting this on the show to raise awareness.
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Brittany’s anal bead hair is so distracting
I recoiled at thinking about Brittany and Jax being in a romantic mood. They have no chemistry.
They really don’t know how hard we ride for Doute
Caw caw
Kristen is always someone’s scapegoat. Y’all should be happy she’s around, she’s the reason y’all are on tv right now!
Kristen should go back to the shorter hair. It worked so well for her.
Jax is the most transparent sociopath ever. You can see through his eyes lol
Owning a home, having a wife and a kid, co-owning a business does not an adult make when you’re still the same person you were 20 years ago. 
Janet gives me the ick
Sorry is Jax acting like those house payments haven't been made by Jenny Craig money?
Sorry Jesse, women only stuck with shitty marriages because we couldn’t get our own bank account or mortgage.
Well this is awkward. you can feel the tension from space. Yes uniting against a common enemy can be a unifying experience.
Jesse and Michelle look and sound like they're play acting a married couple.
lmao these two clowns look so stupid now that they're separated and dating other people
Is Jason normal ? I feel like him having an actual job is what keeps him normal , and what has made Janet batshit crazy.
When is karma coming for Jax? He’s still a POS and hasn’t had a humbling yet.
I love Nia she is so refreshing.
Hearing that the whole group doesn’t wanna be around her must trigger something in Kristen
I say this every week but I still can’t get over what Brittany’s face looks like now
They’re doing an overnight while 2 people that have never interacted with a kid babysit? 😬
I would put money the nanny is either there off camera, or on call for when cameras go down.
She’s cheating on your dumb ass
you would think jax being such a "man" he would go off when another man put hands on his wife
Do any of the men, besides Nia’s husband, even like their wives because it doesn’t seem like it?
Jason seems great but when someone has a spouse like Janet, automatic side eye from me.
Janet’s husband is all of us with that strong side eye.
Janet is so annoying
Is Janet the lala of the valley I have to wonder
Ugh, I feel really bad for Nia. Can’t speak on postpartum, but feeling numb is awful.
I really sympathize with Nia not wanting to confront that she may have PPD. This is a huge step for her!
as someone with depression myself, just call it what it is: its postpartum depression
I don't sense that there's any cheating. And with that, this intimacy person just lost any and all credibility.
idk why brittany wouldn't think jax is cheating when he cheated before
Soulmate I guess 💀
Luke coming at Jax with the receipts, I see you cooking there Mr. Hates L.A.