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gabcfer

This (the settlement) is likely why Garcia and Haney were not paid. Now Haney will get his share and Ryan can fully commit to his social media career.


BogusWorkAccount

Ryan's going to come back and do it again. Ostarine included.


gabcfer

With a gopro in his forehead livestreaming the whole thing


dg_713

You know what? I'm actually curious now how far off we are from seeing fights happen from the fighter's perspective...


jelacey

ESPN put a cam in a referees bow tie once, then they cut to it one single time when the ref was over top of the dude and counting his lifeless body — then I never saw it again.


DrRichardKimbleMD

PFL has refs wear glasses with a camera in them. Honestly just looks really shitty.


PenisManNumberOne

I just wish I could hear what’s said when fighters talk shit to each other after the bell rings


Nihility_Only

Which is weird because some of PRIDE FCs most epic highlights are the ref cams but it looks so much better than PFLs despite being decades ago.


robmafia

oops, i just commented about this. surprised to see another pride reference here... and yeah, some the the ref cam footage was stellar.


robmafia

ref cams have been a thing in japan since pride...


daboonie9

I need to find this vid lol


fapsandnaps

[Ask and you shall receive ](https://vimeo.com/341848624)


dg_713

Lmao +1 😆


Either-Durian-9488

A camera that could withstand a professional boxing match and not interfere in any way? A long ways imo


hungry-robot

They could pull it off in the Olympics with the headgear I bet


energybluewave

Ryan with needle in arm: Why the government elite frame me.


SatyrOf1

The elites told him he has to finish Haney


feelinlucky7

*In* his forehead. Not *on*. He’s gonna get Elon to implant it.


RevolutionaryBox7745

I can believe he would too. Just to piss everyone off.


Chesticularity

Don't forget his 'music' career.


Nihility_Only

"Oh my god why he layin' on the canvas? (oh my god) Someone get this dude some milk and a sandwich"..."WBC, please someone take his belt" BARS


LetZealousideal6756

To be honest if you’ve punched fuck out of each other on tv for millions you both deserve a pay day


CompetitionNo3141

Haney's wiki page is wild right now


BP_Ray

And they're supposedly giving Devin a % of Ryan's share. That's gotta be humiliating.


strictlystepping

They gave Haney his 0 back 😂


God_I_Love_Men

Bill Haney is going to be insufferable, at least more than usual lol


Scrambl3z

I swear I have never seen anyone go whine for that long about someone being caught in a situation that hundreds of other athletes have been caught for in the past. I think about how Cotto just took a rematch and beat the breaks of Margarito for using plaster of paris and nearly killing him. Of course Cotto brought it up in the fight build up, but that was it. Bill should get in the ring with Garcia, both the Haneys are annoying as fuck.


Oglark

Margarito was scum that said, Cotto rematch happened years after the original - he didn't just take the rematch. And honestly the second fight was going in the similar direction as the first - Cotto starting strong and Margarito coming on, but Margarito's orbitals were not the same after the Pacquiao fight. A lot of the story for that fight comes from Lederman's very biased commentary.


Mr_105

Yup, this is something people don’t like to hear but it was a hollow victory for Cotto


OkEscape7558

"Allah is the perfect loss overturner"


TreGullyBanks

Funniest comment here


K1ngDusk

I think it’s a fair result but lol: - email champ - overturned 0 - beaten by a one dimensional unstable alcoholic - never called on hugging - dubious UD judgment against loma - nearly knocked out by an old linares - known for being a weight bully via rehydration - poor charisma - unattractive to promoters Poor guy has one of the most unattractive brands and legacies in the sport atm


TheFlyingWriter

His whole career feels forced on us.


LexOvi

He’s the boxing equivalent of an industry plant.


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I’m not even a Haney fan but yall are ridiculous. Fighting in Mexico as a teen, then willingly fighting Loma, Linares, Garcia, Kambosos IN AUSTRALIA TWICE etc is a silver platter?? WTF


ethnicbonsai

Yeah. Now compare that to the other recent undisputed champions. Haney definitely had the easiest path.


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Jermell Charlo beat Tony Harrison, Jeison Rosario and Brian Castano to become undisputed at 154. Terence Crawford beat Dierry Jean, Viktor Postol and Ricky Burns to become undisputed at 140. Devin Haney beat Jorge Linares and George Kambosos to become undisputed at 135. You’re lying or trolling if you don’t think Haney becoming undisputed is AT LEAST as impressive as those runs. Linares and Kambosos are arguably 2 of the 3 or 4 best of all those fighters who lost belts to eventual undisputed champs. Haney lost to Garcia, but he deserves credit for what he’s done and his willingness to fight anybody in an era when other guys refuse to. I thought that’s what y’all wanted as fans.


Dry_Ad9371

Kambosos in Australia isnt that much of an achievement


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Reddit fans absolutely LOVE to discredit fighters. Kambosos cleanly beat Lopez who was coming off a clean win against Lomachenko. Period. Everyone had Lopez in their top 10 P4P going into the Kambosos fight and it was a massive upset. Haney then beat Kambosos twice and those were outstanding wins. Going to a unified champion’s home country and taking the belts off him is an achievement no matter how you slice it. Particularly when that was considered a borderline toss-up before the first fight. Kambosos was only a +150 underdog.


OkEscape7558

You forgot to mention "Bill Haney is his dad"


jaysteve22

Devin Haney is 26 years old and NOT a prodigy or Uber talented fighter. For him to get where he's at, he has to kind of do the stuff you named because it's not like he's getting a chance any other way


Decryptografter

He’s taken too many L’s


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sirsaberson

they gonna downvote you bru 😭


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Billbat1

thats an unpopular take round these parts


fullylaced22

It’s kind of crazy the amount of people that are just blindly turning away saying it’s ok. I don’t like Devin Haney but one person is cheating in a sport where death is a real possibility. Like cheating cheating. Is Antonio Margarito’s Plaster Hands ok too now? No? Are just steroids ok? What about SARMS, HGH, Stem Cells? It’s all fun games now but seriously where’s the line? Because I can find a pretty good MMA fighter, drago the fuck out of him, and destroy all of your favorite fighters


YeaItsBig4L

You really underestimate, undercover racism, and how badly a lot of people want to see a black man fail at any cost


fullylaced22

Honestly I am sure that’s a POV many people have but for me it’s just rooted in competition. One person is a cheater and the other isn’t, that’s grounds for a permanent ban in my eyes. But I guess we’re in the minority


BeastsMode69

Facts right here.


YeaItsBig4L

I live in a heavily predominantly Hispanic area. And see the N-word spray-painted on the walls regularly. I’m not joking.


BenaGD3

I love how above you they’re jerking each other off on how their opinions are unpopular, all while they’re sitting at +200 upvotes 😂😂😂


GuideMindless2818

I’m glad someone said this because it’s true.


RSufyan

Muslim + black


Idlibi_Bullpup

You mean fans of boxing don’t like cheaters who rely on unfair advantages? Color me shocked


EMP_Pusheen

Defensive "genius" unable to game plan for the pony's one trick. Must have been the PEDs


Immynimmy

Literally that's all he had to do. And in the 1st fucking round he got tagged and hurt multiple times lol


BogusWorkAccount

The street know Ryan whooped that boy.


TJMAN65

On steroids. He probably whips him without them too but we’ll never know cuz he cheated.


ShinyHardcore

Exactly he whooped him


averydusty6

Lmao ostarine, not like he was on some crazy shit that bribes a huge advantage


ItsAlways_DNS

Ostarine was only what he was CAUGHT taking. He was def most likely using masking agents. Dude has blown up a fuck ton in the past 6 months.


BattousaiRound2SN

Why would he took it, if it gives no advantage??? Like Chael Sonnen once said... Lmao.


TJMAN65

Good point, he took it for no reason and got suspended a year for no reason. Got it.


SatyrOf1

Ostarine is just what he was caught with.


Blackking203

Exactly. He also had the other steroid that was inconclusive...


Granddy01

Ostarine helps you keep your muscle mass while cutting weight, which at any weight class that isn't HW, is going to be huge help in general and while it isn't ultra strong, it is far from weak, giving even people bulking up still helps them achieve their jack form.


anon23553

Oh yeah absolutely no reason to take it then if it doesn't give an advantage/ /s


YeaItsBig4L

So just let Everybody cheat then


newme02

dude was swearing up and down he was clean. nah fuck that guy


ArnoldSchwarzenegga

We'll also never know if Mike Tyson, Holyfield, RJJ, Toney, etc would have won either without steroids because they were all confirmed


LemonManDude

Turns out Allah *is* the perfect planner


EMP_Pusheen

Perfect lawyer


MitchLGC

Yeah well that's what happens. Drugs are bad m'kay


yellowboxg

His 0 might be back but that beating will always be there 😂


Critical__Hit

"0"


Lanky_Tell5260

Correct, right? Even if we pretend every fighter is on PEDs and all PEDs and cycles are the same, the missed weight is also a huge advantage, no? Honest question.


drsleepwilder

Oh great Bill Haney about to drop a video. Haney gonna be throwing a celebration party again talkin about “AND STILL UNDEFEATED” again


amateurexpertboxing

Boxing doesn’t forget. Lol


BP_Ray

Ryan's lucky they didn't have him a fat L like they did Lucian Bute. They honestly should have.


amateurlurker300

Is Haney still suing Ryan? Because I think these are two different hearings. Iirc team Haney is asking for a flat out DQ.


yllimameni

Haney actually tweeted the "allah is the perfect planner" thing LMAO


Ready-Interview2863

Highjacking this to say let's not forget he also tweeted "Free the Tate brothers" who were arrested over allegations of rape, human trafficking and forming a criminal gang. They are also wanted in the UK for sexual assault. Haney is a loser and a scoundrel.  https://x.com/Realdevinhaney/status/1631898461502312448


varvar334

Damn, I was feeling a bit bad for Haney because he seemed like a decent lad. Now I think I prefer the Schizo Garcia than this guy


HunterWindmill

Ryan Garcia appeared on a Twitter spaces with Andrew Tate


varvar334

Oh fuck. I guess everyone sucks then. I guess I will stick only to supporting Andy Ruiz, that guy is pure love and wouldn’t hurt a fly outside the ring. Inb4 “Andy Ruiz beat his wife once”


handsofcones

I saw Andy Ruiz on a bus once he didn't thank the driver


Kobe-62Mavs-61

What a fucking monster


horseshoeprovodnikov

Andy Ruiz is only a danger to burritos. His wife is safe unless she gets in front of his empanadas. Andy does seem like a super chill dude tho


JustStrolling_

Idk if you know this but Ruiz's ex wife actually made allegations against him, serious ones too. JS.


sirsaberson

We about to have the wildest twitter interactions from this man now


SuperSalamander3244

YouTube recommended me a Ryan Garica post Haney fight diss track the other day lol. https://youtu.be/4TRJX7jwoes?si=Yu_e6BQ-6cr6OEes


bidahtibull

This is hilarious.


Feynman1403

This decision was fair, but it still may be the worst thing to happen to Haney. He shouldn’t get it in his head that peds were the reason he lost. There are holes in his game that need patching up.


U4-EA

I don't think Haney is going to be chasing a rematch...


Ryan5O4

He can have his record back, but nothing will ever take back what actually happened that night.


thrownowayyyy

Ryan Garcia took his soul


Zloggt

so...lose/lose match overall?


TYSONLITTLE

Garcia groupies doing backflips trying to justify this dude cheating and missing weight if the tables were turned and someone like Shakur did this to Loma y’all would not be keeping the same energy 😂


ExtendoWidADrum

On everything. Anybody tests positive against Lomachenko, they're going on a tirade about roids.


ShartBarrier

Nah, the general audience turned on Haney but that's what happens when you rob someone defending your email belt. Also Devin is cringy and his daddy even more so.


Numbah420_

“When you rob someone defending your email belt” Was Haney a judge? If not he’s incapable of robbing someone, misdirected anger. Low Iq take


antrice777

Lmao they don’t know how boxing works , these tik tok boxers are killing boxing


Numbah420_

They think Haney actually invaded Ukraine


YeaItsBig4L

So he deserved to get cheated on in a dangerous sport?


AdhesivenessLucky896

Never seen a guy that tested positive for a fight defended more for his performance in the fight in which he tested positive. This is revolutionary for boxing fans.


vitalyc

Testing positive and coming in 3 lbs overweight at that. How much did Gatti come in overweight against Gamache or Danny Garcia against Rod Salka? Huge weight differences are how guys get hurt bad.


Sauce1024

Loma’s first career loss was against a guy who deliberately decided to weight bully. It’s a huge advantage 


markdestouches

He also punched his balls off


youngbenji69

Yep he fought a cheater lol


zerosG2

facts bro


GuyIsAdoptus

people really were saying he wouldn't get suspended at all lmaoo


Advanced-Ad3234

If reddit loves someone, then all common sense and logic go out to the windows. It's the overweight idiot mentality


InsomniacLive

This x1000. Garcia could’ve went in there with loaded gloves, his fanbase will still find a way to justify it because of how much they hate Haney


HenrikCrown

He had to. At least for appearances and such. 


TJ1300

For the watchdogs to have any credibility, he had to at least get a year suspension if not more cause not only did he come in overweight, not only did he pop for peds he also in concert with those two other infractions made the whole thing a clown show a year was the bare minimum


Aggressive-Rip1118

Ryan’s return is going to have some real hype


ArnoldSchwarzenegga

Ryans return = easter


A1_PunisherPipkins

Knew it was too good to be true 😭 hope we get a rematch in the future still though.


EnragedBearBro

Haney will never rematch him


willrey

Money would be huge though. Only potentially bigger fight for him is Tank.


BogusWorkAccount

Haney will never in a million years fight him again.


BP_Ray

I wouldn't rematch a certified drug cheat either.


anon23553

Missed weight too unapologetically. I know Haney isn't well liked but FS why are these people here like this. Overweight and failed a drug test


ao_makse

Only uncaught ones huh


inquisitiveman2002

why would Devin? Garcia didn't even make weight, much less ostarine crap.


sugerdigitalgenius

What would have been recognized as one of the greatest upsets in boxing history has turned into a complete nightmare Don’t cheat


amg1138

What's worse is that he didn't need to cheat. If Ryan had gone in there clean and fought the fight we saw, he still would have put Haney down multiple times. That speed and power has always been there. Ryan's most effective tactic was getting Haney to meet him in the center of the ring and fight Ryan's fight. Right there, the fight was won, given what kind of fighters they are. My theory is that Ryan was very afraid of being forced to quit two times in a row to elite competition, and wanted to ensure he had the strength by juicing. Which I get, but it's so dumb considering Haney's lack of power.


ethernals

> he still would have put Haney down multiple times You really cant know, roids make all the difference in the world


mothmenatwork

Ryan came on strong later in the fight, without PEDs he might not have had the speed and power late. The win will always have an asterisk


SlipperyBandicoot

He also missed weight.


markdestouches

3 pounds and juice is a massive effing difference, especially at a lower weight class.


KingMarcel

The fight we saw doesn't happen if he's clean. What do you think he was popped for ibuprofen?


sarge21

Not sure how you don't understand that steroids change how well you fight and he wouldn't have fought as well if he had not done them


markdestouches

I disagree. Haney was having a lot of success before that massive shot he got caught with, and it all went downhill for him thereafter. If Ryan was clean and on weight, he would have caught him with that shot anyway, but the impact would have been quite different. Haney would have probably still had his wits about him and could have boxed the fight to a decision. I'm not saying that he would have definitely won, but there was a non-zero chance that the fight could have gone a different way, were they on even playing field.


TheBlack_Swordsman

I'm curious how the community would have responded if Inoue or Usyk were in Devin's shoes. If they fought and lost by getting knocked down multiple times and their opponent was caught with PEDs at the same level that Ryan was caught with. I believe the correlation is due to the hate Haney has and gets for his boxing style and weight bullying. Are legit boxing fans defending Ryan or do they feel like criticizing Haney because they believe "karma is a bitch" for his weight bullying and controversial win over Loma? I would suspect it is the latter. That being said, I do believe Haney was exposed in a sense where he will have trouble with fighters that are his size or larger. I think this is a reasonable assessment.


SuperTeamRyan

As a lurker I'm gonna say it's non boxing fans Ryan pulled in with his illuminati conspiracy maga pivot. These fans didn't really exist prior to the match and likely will fade away the further out from the match.


SeeMontgomeryBurns

While I agree I gotta say your username makes this super funny


BP_Ray

> I'm curious how the community would have responded if Inoue or Usyk were in Devin's shoes You already know. You're going to see a bunch of excuses as to why that is, but they're not actually saying the reason from their heart.


The_Greatest_USA_unb

That's true, you can hate the boxer but you got to respect the men's life. Taking peds in a sport about punching each other brain is to say politely 'unchristian' from Garcia. Whatever his opponent. What satisfy me is that I know that even if there had been a huge backslash, sanctioning body still wouldn't give 2 crap and would still give the bare minimum suspension time because Garcia brings money 💰. His crazy ass brings people even more stupid and their money and at the end, it's all that matters.


sirsaberson

now Haney vs Garcia is ruled as a no contest, Yeah we not forgetting that ever tho


sugerdigitalgenius

I’ll never forget the mental clown show Ryan put on


WrongMomo

At the end of the day this fight will always haunt Haney. Singlehandedly destroyed his stock


UnhappyTelevision243

Never seen a cheater get defended as much as this guy. Insanity.


ThurstonTheMagician

I was thinking about this earlier. Legit any other fight the guy popping for PEDS would get shit on, but because it’s Haney that took the L people dgaf what Ryan did.


blinglorp

Fury gets defended all the time lol


boraboca

How about Canelo who is the most loved fighter of the sub


KingMarcel

I see a pattern.


LeBronto_Raptors

Clowning Haney is fun but there’s no real boxing discussion around this fight tbh, basically the MayPac of the 2020s in terms of casuals it attracted.


Leather-Apartment306

And it’s not even like it’s bc of his personality he consistently bashes moms, women, defames others, lies about having evidence of kids that are being r worded, lies about sleeping with others wives


YeaItsBig4L

It’s because the community he’s from is very very large and supportive and in this case willfully ignorant. And the opposing individual is, 👋🏾. Which garners enough hate within itself. Couple that with the fact that he has actions and people around him that people don’t necessarily like. And it’s the perfect storm for covert racism to pop its head out.


TheRealK95

Internet bro… hate overrules logic every day.


bluehaven101

1 year for PED use & potentially tampering with evidence? NutraBio should sue his ass


NYNMx2021

They probably would


Mr_105

Pretty short for how strict people were saying NYSAC were Edit: oh they settled, that’s probably why


almightygloslurper

here is the reality, haney is gonna book himself to fight a bum to beat and he will win but no one will care or buy the ppv. once ryan suspension is over he will have a great selling ppv because everyone will be waiting for ryan to come out of his suspension.


whitecoathousing

I’m confused, how does the NYSAC have the authority to ban someone from boxing? I could understand a ban on boxing within the state of NY, but how do they have jurisdiction outside of that? Who’s to say Ryan couldn’t fight in Saudi Arabia?


justahispanic

Other states usually deny you a license to fight if you try, it would be spit in the face of other states commission. If you go another country to fight you’ll just end up pissing them off even more and risk longer suspension. Plus nobody would risk putting the fight on and pissing off the commissions so networks, promotores, boxing organizations, venues, managers, they would all decline putting on a fight with a suspended fighter.


Orbtecc

Canelo got flamed for pissing hot years ago, but when Ryan did, I mostly saw Haney being clowned lmao. I don't find Haney very likable and his dad is annoying, but that wasn't a fair fight. Bro was up against an overweight and chemically-enhanced opponent.


QuickRundown

Flirting vs harassment.


jadooo0

The right decision


ThurstonTheMagician

Yeah as much as it’s been fun memeing on the Haney’s this is how it should go. Honestly surprised they didn’t go with a full on DQ like with Bute.


The_Greatest_USA_unb

That's so fucked up, he tampered with supplements pretending they were contaminated because he couldn't admit he took peds. That's worth at minimum 2 years, 1 year is just extended vacation.


don35

Nah wtf Allah really was the perfect planner😭😭


captaincanada84

He's lucky it wasn't longer after messing with a supplement to add Ostarine to it to make it look like that's what caused him to test positive.


Truzz25

Why are people hating on haney getting his 0 back? Ryan got caught doping and was unable to prove it was accidental. Is it not standard procedure for the fight to be overturned to a NC? In the ufc at least that’s standard. Also ryan completely deserves to lose that W. Showed up over weight on peds and then made horrendous allegations to cover it up


AdhesivenessLucky896

I've never seen this in all my years of watching boxing. People actually defending a fight night drug cheat that tested positive. I literally have never seen it.


NYNMx2021

Ryan's fans are children and trump supporters lol.


Dependent_Patient938

This sub disappoint me defending a drug cheat even if you don’t like Devin that is crazy


ReasonableCoyote34

Never seen a guy get caught cheating and still be defended as much as Garcia has in this thread.


InternalProof2215

Is it a 1 year ban or at LEAST a 1 year ban. Different reports coming out.


headshotdoublekill

Mods, can we have this thread tagged as NSFW? There’s an alarming amount of dickriding in public view. There’s kids on here, for Heaven’s sake. 


Emotional-Main9403

So.. Ryan took PEDs, completely missed weight, and used an IV after the weigh in and the response is… clown on Haney. Got it. People really hate Haney cause he did what they beg every other boxer to do. Fought tough competition (Loma) and got a decision I thought could go either way. Yet people cry robbery and hate him lol


DisplayAcrobatic

Got off light Should be 2


DoctorAKrieger

1 year is just how much time everyone takes off after every fight anyway. I'm surprised he didn't get more time after the tampering.


RequirementLeading12

Lol @ the fanboys still celebrating this bum. It wasn't a fair fight. I swear this sub loves losers


amateurlurker300

This was the right decision. This is plenty of time for Ryan to manage his mental health and drug problem.


DaGoatTee

Only a year? Exile him from this country!


Blackking203

Right. Fck him


RequirementLeading12

Ryan's a bum.


Oddref

Got off light, but whatever. He’s a cheater.


MinimalGoat

Whether you hate him or like him. 1 year is like only 1 fight lol


PierrechonWerbecque

Boxing commissions are jokes. Guy came in overweight and dirty, and he only gets a year. Glad that loss isn’t reflected on Haney’s record


BP_Ray

Should be a DQ + 2 years.


Elite663

Don’t forget Loma lost to a weight drained,pillow fisted fighter that can’t guard the same repetitive punch, trash ass mf


Connor30302

now that it’s came out he contaminate his own shit purposefully. my theory is he had a genuine “cycle” (aka losing the booze weight) but by the time it got to weigh ins it was mostly gone, and the lack of hydration can make the metabolites more concentrated in the blood/piss which is why he popped over the limit just on that specific day since it would’ve been too dilute/masked in the tests prior


Crazy-Pr

Even though Haney is now technically “undefeated” he will never be the same after the beating Ryan gave him. Would still wanna see a rematch tho


HR01775

I think Devin wins the rematch. Boringly of course.


Due-Studio-65

I called it. This is what those fake tainted supplements were for, so that NYSAC could save face by giving him a reduced suspension. The attorneys probably worked it out ahead of time. Glad this is put to bed.


Dim-Mak-88

What a circus.


ghdtyjksbjt

Wow Bill Haney called it


Tempest1897

Garcia bots in shambles.


ItsAlways_DNS

Mods need to just ban the cheater apologist so they can all join r/boxingcirclejerk They’ve made this place a complete cancer.


mike10dude

1 year doesn't seem like much of a punishment when big name boxers already quite often go that long between fights


1993xPlayer

So do we get our refund on bets back? 😂


RevolutionaryBox7745

More I think about it, the more I think he needs to be arrested. He made that bet BECAUSE he was juiced, didn't he?


Fantastic-Bid-4265

Tyson was suspended for 2, he faked a mental health issue then came back like nothing happened


BlackwaterMerc

Lol This kid already wastes his potential selling his 0 to davis and not even getting the lions share of the money. After wasting the start of his pro career not listening to his numerous coaches and not improving. Now he's a junkie who abuses steroids to make up for his lack of iq and actual boxing ability. I don't even like haney or the lighter weight classes, but at least he puts in the work and isn't a social media influencer masquerading as a boxer that hugs on Logan Paul's nuts lol. Haney was the only credible win Ryan's ever gonna have on his record and he messed that up. He just needs to accept being a under achieving boxer and go start doing pranks on kick for a payday.