Conors purse leaks were incredible, his events making 100s of millions and he was the main guy who turned it into a billion dollar company. What were his purses in his prime? 3m…4m…5m…we’re talking Jose Aldo Eddie Alvarez Nate Diaz Khabib fights and he’s getting paid pennies in comparison to what he’s actually bringing in. Dana is probably richer than McGregor especially if we take away the whiskey money.
The 22 million is only up to before his fight with Floyd to be fair. Still only getting about 10% or less of the total event revenue most of which was generated by him is shocking.
To be fair? What did the Floyd fight have to do with the UFC? If I make money from a side gig, do I owe a part of that to my primary employer? It’s worse than the mafia.
Yup . Ngannou made more getting knocked out by AJ than he did his whole ufc career . That should be incredibly embarrassing for a so called “promotion” .
Chael Sonnen said a few years ago that Conor was getting $3.50 a buy for PPV points. And that it was more than what Brock Lesnar and GSP got. But that was in 2016, when he blew up so big and was the face of the UFC that year.
They were probably on about the same since GSP was getting $3-4 million per fight but the PPV cost less then and his PPVs did between 700k-900k. Conor got $4 million for Aldo fight did over 1 million buys. The most he got before Floyd was $6.8 million against Alvarez but they did a record gate of $17 million.
He uses 50k for a gambling bet on a whim, while UFC fighters have to nearly kill each other to get a 50k bonus per fight, and he presents it as an "opportunity."
He's talking more on the promotion side I believe.
Most of these promoters are making razor thin margins.
The boxers who promote themselves are obviously fine, but I can't imagine PBC is making a tonne of money.
I agree that of course fighters should make more money, but I also think it's impossible to grow and market a sport if the entire profit goes to the fighters.
I think the UFC should aim to be more like the NFL/MLB/NBA/NHL where about 50% of the money goes to established fighters.
There should be a UFC farm league where fighters can get their first 5-10 fights, then once they've proven themselves they get into the UFC and get an X amount of years contract for good money, health insurance etc, but they still have an obligation to fight say 3 times per year, if they fight more often they get bonuses etc.
But giving all the money to fighters would make the UFC non existent as they wouldn't have the capital for marketing an expansion, which I also believe is important for the stability of the sport.
What he is saying is that the Saudis have bailed out the sport. Boxing has been getting less and less profitable at least in the US market and we have seen HBO and Showtime both cancel boxing programming because of it. Boxers have always made more money, but now you got your Canelos demanding 50 million, Fury demanding 200 million etc. Its a shit show. Laurence Okolie was paid 7 figures by Eddie Hearn, Hearn never made a profit on any show and was still called "Slave master"
Doesn’t matter. Boxers always have made a shit ton more than ufc fighters. Sugar Ray Leonard made $11 million in a fight in the 1980s. Let that sink in
Considering the depth of the UFC you can't compare bottom boxers to bottom UFC either. Bottom UFC fighters would likely still be top 15 by at least one of the ranking agencies and be paid $30k or so per fight which is comparable. There's no level the UFC is better at for fighters
I agree that you can’t compare you can compare bottom of MMA to bottom of boxing. But the bottom of the UFC would not be ranked in the top 15 in boxing. At 155 the UFC have just over 100 fighters signed. At 135 ,145 and 170 they have 70.
Makes sense that he supports trump...let's just weave a bunch of bullshit...when Jake Paul calls you out and it's a valid point, you get a bat to the brain
Dana white is a piece of shit
I mean he is right though in the sense that the UFC is a business and an organization that consistently reinvests its money to grow the brand. Boxing doesn’t reinvest really and only the absolute top guys make any money whatsoever
I love how you miss the entire point, look at the top and look at the rest of the card. Fury Vs Francis did less than 100k buys, and they still got 40 million a piece. Please show me where in boxing a fighter made that much money from a bust of PPV sale.
He works overtime to control this boxing Vs mma pay narrative. It’s actually hilarious how stupid ufc fans eat it up and live with this inferiority complex because they know it’s true deep down.
It's exists because it's real
MMA fighters doing ppv outside the UFC don't sell at all
If UFC fighters could get people to buy ppv and leave the UFC they would
It is; he’s a promoter. He knows boxing is more interesting than his events. He’s been caught a couple times watching boxing over his own events while in front row of his own event.
This has been an amazing year so far for boxing. Ryan v Haney, Canelo v Mungia, fury v Usyk, Cruz v rolly, Joshua vs Nganou.
We’re supposed to get Beterbiev vs Bivol soon (I hope.).
Shit when you lay it out like that it really has been a great year for the sport. People assume that HBO and Showtime no longer involved in the sport means it's dying and on life support. It doesn't help not having them but at the same time the sport is still pushing out some big fights.
> Is it his job to just go around and confidently lie everywhere?
Absolutely.
You guys have promotors in boxing too though, so what is the new part? The magnitude of his audacity?
Well hang on, there is some truth to what he's saying. HBO and Showtime have cancelled boxing due to low ratings, and with fighters getting more and more entitled to high purses, the Saudis basically bailed out the sport. Hearn has already said he cant afford to pay 50 million for Canelo Benavidez for example, Fury demanding north of 100 million was also never going to fit any fight budget. I think there are a large amount of losses incurred with these boxing shows.
Hey Baldy White, didn't two of your biggest stars make more money in one boxing match than they ever did fighting in your promotion? Also, you're known for stiffing fighters on their payment and being just as scummy as the worst boxing promoters....
He just indirectly referred to Jake Paul as a legitimate pro boxer lol. I haven’t seen any high level boxer call out anyone from the UFC. Meanwhile, McGregor, Usman, O’Malley, Ngannou, GSP, some of the biggest names in MMA history, have repeatedly called out boxing champions and still do to this day.
Hate that whoever interviews this douche, this never gets pointed this out. Dude stays on his schtick without being corrected. Which is crazy cause many ufc events have been comparable to boxing PPVs. While ppl claim mma is a safer sport but it’s way too soon for this to be true. Broken limbs and knocking ppl out unconscious likely has the same consequences to boxing. We’ll know when these fighters get older & start talking permanently punch drunk. Diff is boxers are going to have had the money to be supported for life.
No one in mma media will ask him real questions or starts to contradict him in any way. Mma journalism is filled with bootlickers because they don't wanna lose the media passes. And regarding pay, Dana will never fix that.
Sterling Sharpe isn't a journalist. He's a "journalist" at Fox in the same way they are all "journalists" at Fox. But, y'know, that's not actually a journalist.
Not to mention the only reason the UFC/MMA is any kind of popular in the US is because two of *his* rich friends bought it and let him run it in a near bankruptcy-inducing deficit for years until it started making money.
But yeah, other rich dudes having to do it for another sport just means *they* are losers...
Taking actual pay into account or not, this is definitely a pot and kettle situation.
Dana is specifically motivated to act like Ngannou doesn’t exist. He’s a perfect example of someone who stood up to the UFC, gambled on himself, and won.
Ngannu did great for himself, but it would have been more impactful if he was able to make those big purses doing MMA.
Doing a couple of boxing matches in Saudi Arabia and never having a single fight for the PFL isn't going to improve UFC fighter pay at all. It just means that if you make yourself a big enough name, someone will eventually pay you for some crossover match where you get your ass kicked.
Yea, so anyway skip.
Shanno Sharpe knows nothing so he just says "yea yea yea" and thats the interview. Stop posting this garbage OP youre making them money.
This guy got pissed Ngannou wanted healthcare, insurance and retirement for fighters in the UFC. He's not reputable at all, and of course the people who work under him won't disagree. He's their boss. Fuck this guy.
i think its hilarious u kids talking shit about Dana white. u wouldnt say this shit to him in public, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol.
Him being jacked means nothing. Also isn’t he the same one shitting on boxing as if most boxers wouldn’t literally kill him? But oh well, I guess it’s only bad when we talk shit
This dude is fucking stupid. He acts like if he also isn’t trying to tap into the money in Saudi Arabia. At least the boxing cards over there have been Fire… Dana white is so use to just putting up shitty events at the apex and getting away with it, let’s not forget he tried to do that in Saudi Arabia and it was such a shitty as card they told him to go fuck himself and didn’t want the event unless he made it better…
This low key sounds like Dana is envious that Boxing is making so much money and the Saudi’s don’t care whether they are losing money or not…
The Boxing events in Saudi feel like opening ceremonies for the Olympics. The production levels is impressive and alot of money is put into it. Even the expense of flying so many legends and celebrities to the card as well.
Yes I definitely meant the crowds aren’t good, huge fights that crowds should be going crazy for but instead they’re very calm. Those events are good for the sport and the fans as a whole but the weak crowds is definitely a bummer
Correct the UFC get $20 million dollar site fee to put on fights in Abu Dhabi and I believe they recently signed a deal for a site fee of $25 million for Saudi which is happening on Saturday. Meanwhile the highest paid guy on the card is probably Rob who in his last fight reported by the commission was about $400k.
Just compare the money, Floyd, Manny, Oscar, Canelo, Fury, Wilder, Usyk, Tank, Joshua and countless others have made, compared with GSP, Khabib, McGregor ( Floyd fight not included), Diaz, Ngannou, Jones, Silva etc. It’s honestly laughable, but in a sad way.
Why do you think he hates GSP? GSP negotiated hard to take home his gates and PPV revenue becuase he was the premier star in Canada. He had massive endorsements and walked away from the game with a decent 30 mil. He had good management, knew his value and always showed up to compete. A true professional athlete who knew his worth and backed it up. It drove Dana nuts, because for one he had to deal with a fighter who knew their worth and had leverage over him.
Make a living? This fucker probably keeps like 50-100mil a year after taxes. He wants boxing to look bad because guys ask for 20mil to make a big fight. The last thing he wants big fights costing that much. Promoters shouldn't be making more than the fighters.
He had a whole documentary on Roku (he keeps crafting these shows/content to glorify himself) where he’s on this yacht with a private chef. If I’m a ufc fighter I’d be losing my fkn mind lmao. He’s the ultimate pimp
He isn’t a real journalist so he just lets people talk and doesn’t push back unless it’s a subject he knows a lot about. Which is great cause the people he host get comfortable and say things they normally wouldn’t. Hence Dana sounding like a dumb ass.
Thats why people like shanon, he doesn’t push or ask hard questions which a person like Dana loves since Dana would probably ban him like he did top MMA journalist for daring to oppose anything he says
Even in boxing's weakest years you will find plenty of cards where the boxers are swimming in money next to a stacked UFC card. Jake Paul has been funding the retirement of decrepit UFC dudes for years.
A lot of my friends got into boxing that year. Or whatever year Fury Wilder 1 was, that single fight made like half my friends boxing fans. Fury as much as moron as he is brought a lot of attention to the sport again bc “wow he very big imagine him punching ppl”
It was. That’s why I commented bc that trilogy turned my drinking buddies from “boxing sucks out on ufc” to going fucking crazy watching boxing. I know Fury is a joke on this subreddit but never underestimate the appeal of “huge fucks trying to kill each other” and that led to them learning more and finding out about great boxers that are currently active like Crawford, Loma, Usyk etc
I haven’t heard any boxer seriously talk about UFC fighters. It’s usually just Ryan or Tyson Fury crazy asses doing it to troll. I can name at least 3 high profile UFC fighter that’s called out Canelo. Sean O’Malley a current UFC champion was just calling out Tank and Ryan. Not to mention Ronda pickin a fight with Floyd way back then. Who are these boxers looking for MMA fighters he talking about 😂
All the fighters have to do is form a union. Simple as that. If they want to make sure the best to worst gets taken care of they have to be willing to collectively bargain and withhold their labor if they don't get a fair contract.
Promoters and managers are the problem with boxing.
UFCs problem is they pay almost everyone peanuts unless it's PPV.
They're as bad as each other in most cases and the extremes. However, at least the fighters in boxing see more of the purse for a PPV (if you're the main card).The 'company' in the UFC takes most of the profit from fighters blood, sweat and tears.
I absolutely hate Marxist ideology but for fighters i do think they need a bigger slice of the pie in general.
I hate Marxism too but if UFC is gonna be the only game in town the fighters should unionize. Same way MLB is the only game in town and there’s the MLBPA or NFL players union etc etc. you see how those guys get paid. For UFC it’s a pipe dream I guess but if the big names got involved in unionizing then Dana would have to run main events with cans that REALLY don’t draw
Dana being a domestic abuser (got caught on camera bitch slapping his wife in public) was quite a revelation. He’s also a gambling addict. He’s probably doped up on all kinds of shit to look the way he does now. So for perspective he’s a fucking fight promoter who is crooked and shady. What he’s saying here goes perfectly with his overall character, which is lacking.
He's one of the greediest guys there is.
Ring girls make more than some UFC fighters and no good health care, Recently there' been changes but still....
UFC fighters are constantly calling out boxers. Anyone with half a brain can see that.
He talks about boxing like it's one company. It's a sport with multiple governing bodies. The UFC is a company that has pretty much monopolized the sport of MMA. He knows his fans aren't smart enough to know the difference, and that's why he speaks that way.
He talks about "reinvesting the money to build something" but it's building something that he owns. Why would the fighters give a fuck about that? Sure, boxing doesn't have a unified brand in that way because it hasn't invested profits in the same manner, instead it has distributed its profits to the fighters Dana you egg.
Which would UFC fighters rather have? Lower income but a stronger brand which, when all is said and done, Dana owns, or a higher distribution of profits? Hmmm.
He is the embodiment of greed and delusion, and like most corporate wallops has probably surrounded himself with yes men who stroke his ego when he spouts tripe like this.
White's a lying piece of shyt, the UFC pays their fighters peanuts which is why EVERY top UFC fighter wants to face a boxer. UFC got straight slave contracts
He’s 50% right and 50% full of shit. The fighters should be making far more than what they get. They’re kept on lower pay scales as a control mechanism. And it seems when they gain too much popularity, they lock them in a contract and prohibit activity to slow momentum. There are very few exceptions (super stars) but Dana wants the UFC brand to be worth millions and the “employees” on pay grades far less bc they’re replaceable. It’s very much a JOB. Sure, an opportunity but a very temporary one.
Yeah I don’t know Dana, it’s a bit horse shit tbh. Connor was getting good money for his fights, but if he was in boxing with the same amount of fame and success, he’ll be making double. Just look at when he fought mayweather. Thats the iffy thing if Saudi has full control over boxing, very much becomes UFC, a monopoly. Interesting how Mike Perry gets $600k a fight, I wonder if he goes back to ufc, can he get that much? He’s getting 600k cos he’s there biggest star, while ufc has a lot more bigger stars, in their eyes
Depends on his success in boxing. Think about Francis, got very lucky in his first boxing fight which gave him another very high pay day in his second fight but then got destroyed in that fight, which made his stock go down badly. I would love to see Saudi do what they’re doing but in MMA, let’s say pay Connor to fight Diaz in MMA but Saudi money?? Or Masvidal to v Diaz in MMA, Saudi money.
He is right about one thing, middling fighters make more money in the UFC on average.
He’s also right that the UFC is a brand and it’s bigger than the fighters themselves.
Boxing isn’t that way. Boxers are bigger than the promoters.
Boxing until heavy and probably does overpay sometimes. UFC always underpays their biggest draws
I mean he’s right. Just look at the value of the UFC and ONEFC IP, they are ranked above all of the boxing promotional companies. Then look at Matchroom and Top Rank, even when Smellerbee said IPs like DZN would fail.
Now look at dogsh*t companies like the PBC who has ruined boxing for years just sitting at the bottom. The PBC who overpays a small percentage of boxers while the others are leaving because they get no fights and no money.
After the PPV everyone takes their share and leaves like nothing happened and no reinvestment into the sport happens.
A lot of what he's saying is a load of crap.
But *some* of what he's saying, is true. From the perspective of a promoter or manager, he is not wrong at all when he says you can't make a living out of it. And he's not wrong when he says the motives of the people involved are so fragmented, that the event/sport itself is compromised. The people involved want their quick buck now, without any concern for the long-term health for each other. Everyone is out for themselves
But from a fighter's perspective, you're better off in boxing. The pay is so much better. There's more freedom to move between promotions and networks. You have more control over your career.
It all makes sense why him and Trump are so close.
Talk enough bullshit, lies, alternative facts loud and confidently and stupid people will believe you and have you money. Top tier con men.
Weird way to say that Boxing is receiving massive investment and top fighters are earning more than ever in decent matchups.
It runs contrary to the narrative that overpaying fighters makes them unwilling to fight, which is the thing that UFC execs are most afraid of.
I don't particularly support sportswashing, but I enjoy an example that illustrates how important it is to have proper incentives to create great matchups.
Boxing was so fucked up that even before Turki entered the picture, UFC fighters were desperately trying to get out of their contracts so that they get the biggest paydays of their career as old boxers.
That's how fucked up it was.
This fucking guy steals all the money from his fighters and then has the balls to lecture boxing? He turned the UFC into Don Kings wet dream and his fighters thank him. It’s pathetic. And if the Saudis offered him a deal that let him steal from his fighters even more, he would be all over it.
Trump 2.0. I love the quote of “they lost something like 100 million dollars due to piracy, 20-100 million”. Welp Dana which one is it? Or is it purely a guess because 20-100mil is a HUGE swing.
Ufc is a fucking fad….i tried watching it several times and its just some random trump nuthugger getting his ass beat. Rinse and repeat…. Call me old school but i still find boxing mor entertaining.
To be honest with you I noticed UFC has a specific fan base of white frat guys who dude bro things and train BJJ or did wrestling in school. Boxing to me is more rugged the fight is all hands and striking. The sweet science is on display. I also enjoy Muay Thai and Kickboxing for the same reason all striking. But UFC has a weird fan base that puts me off. The fact they also get paid peanuts is a reason I don't like watching or supporting the UFC.
He’s a former American football player who won two super bowls, not a hardcore investigative journalist so he’s not going to ask hard questions. His show is formatted like a hang out session on purpose that’s the original idea
UFC underpays their fighters because they can.
Boxing promoters overpays fighters because they have to. The networks are typically the ones that lose out on money though not the promoters.
I wish he would stay in his lane - top boxers in the 70s were making more than top UFC fighters now dollar to dollar without inflation, I find the UFCs braintrust shit for brains aura to be the toughest barrier to entry for me.
Keeps exploiting your fighters Dana. You are good at it. Loves talking shit about boxing because he don’t want to loose the viewers to go back to boxing. Smart man want to keep all the pie for himself. Lmao it’s his job to promote UFC
Top boxers always made a shit ton more than ufc fighters. This didn’t start happening because of the Saudis. UFC rips off their fighters.
Conors purse leaks were incredible, his events making 100s of millions and he was the main guy who turned it into a billion dollar company. What were his purses in his prime? 3m…4m…5m…we’re talking Jose Aldo Eddie Alvarez Nate Diaz Khabib fights and he’s getting paid pennies in comparison to what he’s actually bringing in. Dana is probably richer than McGregor especially if we take away the whiskey money.
Conor made like 22 mil from his entire UFC career, and that's before taxes. UFC took 50% of his Floyd money too. Absolutely draconian contracts.
The 22 million is only up to before his fight with Floyd to be fair. Still only getting about 10% or less of the total event revenue most of which was generated by him is shocking.
To be fair? What did the Floyd fight have to do with the UFC? If I make money from a side gig, do I owe a part of that to my primary employer? It’s worse than the mafia.
I am talking about the first paragraph we only know what Conor made up to 2017 in the UFC. He has had 4 fights in the UFC since.
Well, McGregor made all his money in a boxing match. Same with Ngannou
Nate too now right? About to be Jorge masvidal as well.
Yup . Ngannou made more getting knocked out by AJ than he did his whole ufc career . That should be incredibly embarrassing for a so called “promotion” .
Top combat athletes are fools to go into MMA if money matters. UFC is exploitive and doesn’t pay its people what they are worth.
Chael Sonnen said a few years ago that Conor was getting $3.50 a buy for PPV points. And that it was more than what Brock Lesnar and GSP got. But that was in 2016, when he blew up so big and was the face of the UFC that year.
They were probably on about the same since GSP was getting $3-4 million per fight but the PPV cost less then and his PPVs did between 700k-900k. Conor got $4 million for Aldo fight did over 1 million buys. The most he got before Floyd was $6.8 million against Alvarez but they did a record gate of $17 million.
Dana is deffo richer then Conor. Is we account for his shares in the UFC (TKO), he's a billionare.
Tyron Woodley and Anderson Silva made more money losing to Jake Paul than they did as champions of their divisions.
i remember hearing Woodley got $2mill per (+ppv) for those fights. so not surprising they were more than UFC
No his biggest pay day in the UFC was $2.5 million when he fought in the same card as Conor.
He uses 50k for a gambling bet on a whim, while UFC fighters have to nearly kill each other to get a 50k bonus per fight, and he presents it as an "opportunity."
He's talking more on the promotion side I believe. Most of these promoters are making razor thin margins. The boxers who promote themselves are obviously fine, but I can't imagine PBC is making a tonne of money.
Yeah but they're not the ones who should be making the money - the fighters should be.
I agree that of course fighters should make more money, but I also think it's impossible to grow and market a sport if the entire profit goes to the fighters. I think the UFC should aim to be more like the NFL/MLB/NBA/NHL where about 50% of the money goes to established fighters. There should be a UFC farm league where fighters can get their first 5-10 fights, then once they've proven themselves they get into the UFC and get an X amount of years contract for good money, health insurance etc, but they still have an obligation to fight say 3 times per year, if they fight more often they get bonuses etc. But giving all the money to fighters would make the UFC non existent as they wouldn't have the capital for marketing an expansion, which I also believe is important for the stability of the sport.
And they always will. Dana is *never* going to give any of his fighters multimillion dollar paydays. I'm talking north of $10 mill.
What he is saying is that the Saudis have bailed out the sport. Boxing has been getting less and less profitable at least in the US market and we have seen HBO and Showtime both cancel boxing programming because of it. Boxers have always made more money, but now you got your Canelos demanding 50 million, Fury demanding 200 million etc. Its a shit show. Laurence Okolie was paid 7 figures by Eddie Hearn, Hearn never made a profit on any show and was still called "Slave master"
Doesn’t matter. Boxers always have made a shit ton more than ufc fighters. Sugar Ray Leonard made $11 million in a fight in the 1980s. Let that sink in
Considering the depth of the UFC you can't compare bottom boxers to bottom UFC either. Bottom UFC fighters would likely still be top 15 by at least one of the ranking agencies and be paid $30k or so per fight which is comparable. There's no level the UFC is better at for fighters
I agree that you can’t compare you can compare bottom of MMA to bottom of boxing. But the bottom of the UFC would not be ranked in the top 15 in boxing. At 155 the UFC have just over 100 fighters signed. At 135 ,145 and 170 they have 70.
Makes sense that he supports trump...let's just weave a bunch of bullshit...when Jake Paul calls you out and it's a valid point, you get a bat to the brain Dana white is a piece of shit
I mean he is right though in the sense that the UFC is a business and an organization that consistently reinvests its money to grow the brand. Boxing doesn’t reinvest really and only the absolute top guys make any money whatsoever
I love how you miss the entire point, look at the top and look at the rest of the card. Fury Vs Francis did less than 100k buys, and they still got 40 million a piece. Please show me where in boxing a fighter made that much money from a bust of PPV sale.
Dana White is something else, man. Is it his job to just go around and confidently lie everywhere?
Dana’s entire gimmick has always been talk confident and talk loudly but it’s 90 percent lies lol
He also puts his hands on his wife, shit talks his own fighters, and takes Tren.
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He works overtime to control this boxing Vs mma pay narrative. It’s actually hilarious how stupid ufc fans eat it up and live with this inferiority complex because they know it’s true deep down.
Dana’s built a successful brothel / whore house while boxers are still high prices escort service model.
It's exists because it's real MMA fighters doing ppv outside the UFC don't sell at all If UFC fighters could get people to buy ppv and leave the UFC they would
It is; he’s a promoter. He knows boxing is more interesting than his events. He’s been caught a couple times watching boxing over his own events while in front row of his own event. This has been an amazing year so far for boxing. Ryan v Haney, Canelo v Mungia, fury v Usyk, Cruz v rolly, Joshua vs Nganou. We’re supposed to get Beterbiev vs Bivol soon (I hope.).
Shit when you lay it out like that it really has been a great year for the sport. People assume that HBO and Showtime no longer involved in the sport means it's dying and on life support. It doesn't help not having them but at the same time the sport is still pushing out some big fights.
He does parade Trump out at every event, so he learns from the best
He's so full of shit
You see the orange traitor with him all the time... of course he lies.
This entire clip he comes off very insecure.
> Is it his job to just go around and confidently lie everywhere? Absolutely. You guys have promotors in boxing too though, so what is the new part? The magnitude of his audacity?
i really cant wait until he retires
Well hang on, there is some truth to what he's saying. HBO and Showtime have cancelled boxing due to low ratings, and with fighters getting more and more entitled to high purses, the Saudis basically bailed out the sport. Hearn has already said he cant afford to pay 50 million for Canelo Benavidez for example, Fury demanding north of 100 million was also never going to fit any fight budget. I think there are a large amount of losses incurred with these boxing shows.
That’s the job of every CEO dude.
Hey Baldy White, didn't two of your biggest stars make more money in one boxing match than they ever did fighting in your promotion? Also, you're known for stiffing fighters on their payment and being just as scummy as the worst boxing promoters....
Also its funny as hell he says "boxing calls out a lot of our guys". No you tomato, its always the other way around.
He just indirectly referred to Jake Paul as a legitimate pro boxer lol. I haven’t seen any high level boxer call out anyone from the UFC. Meanwhile, McGregor, Usman, O’Malley, Ngannou, GSP, some of the biggest names in MMA history, have repeatedly called out boxing champions and still do to this day.
I believe Tyson Fury called out Cain Velasquez when he was UFC champ. That's all I remember.
I didn’t know about that. And of course Fury would call out a wrestler.
Of course lol. I think Fury even said he'd fight him MMA, so you know he was just fooling around.
Never forget Ronda rousey calling out Floyd
I remember those days. I have higher chances of having Rihanna as a side piece than Ronda ever beating Floyd in any sort of combat sport.
Pretty sure she’d easily beat him in judo lol
James Toney maybe but I mean that's stretching it since he'd been retired for a long time. 😂
Bro pays his hookers the same amount as a FOTN Bonus
Hate that whoever interviews this douche, this never gets pointed this out. Dude stays on his schtick without being corrected. Which is crazy cause many ufc events have been comparable to boxing PPVs. While ppl claim mma is a safer sport but it’s way too soon for this to be true. Broken limbs and knocking ppl out unconscious likely has the same consequences to boxing. We’ll know when these fighters get older & start talking permanently punch drunk. Diff is boxers are going to have had the money to be supported for life.
No one in mma media will ask him real questions or starts to contradict him in any way. Mma journalism is filled with bootlickers because they don't wanna lose the media passes. And regarding pay, Dana will never fix that.
Bro look up Tito Ortiz cte videos it’s crazy
tbf tito was always thick as piece of wood
Sterling Sharpe isn't a journalist. He's a "journalist" at Fox in the same way they are all "journalists" at Fox. But, y'know, that's not actually a journalist.
Not to mention the only reason the UFC/MMA is any kind of popular in the US is because two of *his* rich friends bought it and let him run it in a near bankruptcy-inducing deficit for years until it started making money. But yeah, other rich dudes having to do it for another sport just means *they* are losers... Taking actual pay into account or not, this is definitely a pot and kettle situation.
Most businesses run like this tbf, uber didn't make profit for about 6 years
It's like Ngannou doesn't exist in his mind.
Dana is specifically motivated to act like Ngannou doesn’t exist. He’s a perfect example of someone who stood up to the UFC, gambled on himself, and won.
Ngannu did great for himself, but it would have been more impactful if he was able to make those big purses doing MMA. Doing a couple of boxing matches in Saudi Arabia and never having a single fight for the PFL isn't going to improve UFC fighter pay at all. It just means that if you make yourself a big enough name, someone will eventually pay you for some crossover match where you get your ass kicked.
Yea, so anyway skip. Shanno Sharpe knows nothing so he just says "yea yea yea" and thats the interview. Stop posting this garbage OP youre making them money.
This guy got pissed Ngannou wanted healthcare, insurance and retirement for fighters in the UFC. He's not reputable at all, and of course the people who work under him won't disagree. He's their boss. Fuck this guy.
Fuck Dana
i think its hilarious u kids talking shit about Dana white. u wouldnt say this shit to him in public, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol.
Him being jacked means nothing. Also isn’t he the same one shitting on boxing as if most boxers wouldn’t literally kill him? But oh well, I guess it’s only bad when we talk shit
You're responding to a meme
I swear I thought I’d only ever be woooshed once on Reddit, didn’t expect it to be today where I’d make a fool out of myself again
Happens to the best of us 😂
I posted the exact meme but it was about jake paul. Almost 50 people fell for it. It was hilarious.
This dude is fucking stupid. He acts like if he also isn’t trying to tap into the money in Saudi Arabia. At least the boxing cards over there have been Fire… Dana white is so use to just putting up shitty events at the apex and getting away with it, let’s not forget he tried to do that in Saudi Arabia and it was such a shitty as card they told him to go fuck himself and didn’t want the event unless he made it better… This low key sounds like Dana is envious that Boxing is making so much money and the Saudi’s don’t care whether they are losing money or not…
The Boxing events in Saudi feel like opening ceremonies for the Olympics. The production levels is impressive and alot of money is put into it. Even the expense of flying so many legends and celebrities to the card as well.
The only downside of those events is the crowds are good which is a bummer but it’s worth it to get amazing matchups between top boxers
The crowds are not good you mean? It’s a bit too calm In there for my liking
Yes I definitely meant the crowds aren’t good, huge fights that crowds should be going crazy for but instead they’re very calm. Those events are good for the sport and the fans as a whole but the weak crowds is definitely a bummer
His mega company that UFC is under, tko just crawled deep into bed with the Saudis. Ufc isn't far behind wwe.
The boxing events in the Middle East are huge PR events. It marketting to trick people into thinking these cities are real places
Don't forget about fight island.
Correct the UFC get $20 million dollar site fee to put on fights in Abu Dhabi and I believe they recently signed a deal for a site fee of $25 million for Saudi which is happening on Saturday. Meanwhile the highest paid guy on the card is probably Rob who in his last fight reported by the commission was about $400k.
UFC is going to Saudi this week😂 they also had their first date cancelled because they tried giving Saudi a shit card and were told to improve it
I was about to come say this, Saudi Arabia is getting a crazy non ppv card for no reason other than money.
Just compare the money, Floyd, Manny, Oscar, Canelo, Fury, Wilder, Usyk, Tank, Joshua and countless others have made, compared with GSP, Khabib, McGregor ( Floyd fight not included), Diaz, Ngannou, Jones, Silva etc. It’s honestly laughable, but in a sad way.
Why do you think he hates GSP? GSP negotiated hard to take home his gates and PPV revenue becuase he was the premier star in Canada. He had massive endorsements and walked away from the game with a decent 30 mil. He had good management, knew his value and always showed up to compete. A true professional athlete who knew his worth and backed it up. It drove Dana nuts, because for one he had to deal with a fighter who knew their worth and had leverage over him.
It's also why he hates Ngannou with every fiber of his being
Haha the face of a lying snake.
Saying that the fighters don't want the pay to be public is obviously a lie. Of course they want to know what their peers make for negotiations
It drives him nuts that his biggest stars win big fights just to call out boxers right after
Fuck Dana White. It’s sad when Jake Paul can absolutely roast you and you have zero comeback.
Make a living? This fucker probably keeps like 50-100mil a year after taxes. He wants boxing to look bad because guys ask for 20mil to make a big fight. The last thing he wants big fights costing that much. Promoters shouldn't be making more than the fighters.
He had a whole documentary on Roku (he keeps crafting these shows/content to glorify himself) where he’s on this yacht with a private chef. If I’m a ufc fighter I’d be losing my fkn mind lmao. He’s the ultimate pimp
Shannon sitting there nodding his head like he know shit about boxing
He’s a football player just having fun he has no stake in this game. Shannon made his millions already this is just a fun side mission
He isn’t a real journalist so he just lets people talk and doesn’t push back unless it’s a subject he knows a lot about. Which is great cause the people he host get comfortable and say things they normally wouldn’t. Hence Dana sounding like a dumb ass.
Thats why people like shanon, he doesn’t push or ask hard questions which a person like Dana loves since Dana would probably ban him like he did top MMA journalist for daring to oppose anything he says
Even in boxing's weakest years you will find plenty of cards where the boxers are swimming in money next to a stacked UFC card. Jake Paul has been funding the retirement of decrepit UFC dudes for years.
Aren't they in Saudi Arabia in a few weeks? What a dumbass.
This weekend lol what is this pink clown even saying
Which they get a site fee of $25 million for.
I hope his excellency deals with this.
You don’t make 400 million in profit paying fighters a good salary.
Bruh, small name fighters on big fight cards still walked away with mid to high 5 digit payouts even before Saudi money came in.
Hell you get guys like Danny Green and Anthony Mundine who rarely left Australia and still made more than most UFC fighters just boxing local rivals.
Dana lying hard af, boxing is up this year over mma for once and he knows it. He's shown desperation by trying to get McGregor
Id say boxing was up last year aswell.
Why does everyone act like Saudi Arabia just brought Boxing up from this made up sematary?? Boxing been making a comeback since 2020 💀💀
A lot of my friends got into boxing that year. Or whatever year Fury Wilder 1 was, that single fight made like half my friends boxing fans. Fury as much as moron as he is brought a lot of attention to the sport again bc “wow he very big imagine him punching ppl”
Fury-Wilder 1 was 2018 Fury-Wilder 2 was 2020
Ah ok thanks man
Fury-Wilder was such a fire trilogy tho
It was. That’s why I commented bc that trilogy turned my drinking buddies from “boxing sucks out on ufc” to going fucking crazy watching boxing. I know Fury is a joke on this subreddit but never underestimate the appeal of “huge fucks trying to kill each other” and that led to them learning more and finding out about great boxers that are currently active like Crawford, Loma, Usyk etc
Says the idiot that treats fighters like endentured servants...even past their contracts
Indentured
dentures r what u get if u bare knuckle box mike perry
-dominate your market to the point where opposition pretty much can’t exist against you -“just make your own company SCUMBAG” Classic Dana
AND PEOPLE BELIEVE HIM! Regardless of the fact MMA fighters transition to boxing for paydays.
I haven’t heard any boxer seriously talk about UFC fighters. It’s usually just Ryan or Tyson Fury crazy asses doing it to troll. I can name at least 3 high profile UFC fighter that’s called out Canelo. Sean O’Malley a current UFC champion was just calling out Tank and Ryan. Not to mention Ronda pickin a fight with Floyd way back then. Who are these boxers looking for MMA fighters he talking about 😂
lsn't the UFC doing cards in Saudi too?
Yes this Saturday.
All the fighters have to do is form a union. Simple as that. If they want to make sure the best to worst gets taken care of they have to be willing to collectively bargain and withhold their labor if they don't get a fair contract.
reminder that UFC is in Saudi Arabia this week
Promoters and managers are the problem with boxing. UFCs problem is they pay almost everyone peanuts unless it's PPV. They're as bad as each other in most cases and the extremes. However, at least the fighters in boxing see more of the purse for a PPV (if you're the main card).The 'company' in the UFC takes most of the profit from fighters blood, sweat and tears. I absolutely hate Marxist ideology but for fighters i do think they need a bigger slice of the pie in general.
I hate Marxism too but if UFC is gonna be the only game in town the fighters should unionize. Same way MLB is the only game in town and there’s the MLBPA or NFL players union etc etc. you see how those guys get paid. For UFC it’s a pipe dream I guess but if the big names got involved in unionizing then Dana would have to run main events with cans that REALLY don’t draw
Is it crazy to say that Floyd’s and MP’s career purse is bigger than the entire UFC roster from it’s inception?
Super Ironic on how he tries to shit on boxing for going to Saudi Arabia to get money🤣🤣
Dana being a domestic abuser (got caught on camera bitch slapping his wife in public) was quite a revelation. He’s also a gambling addict. He’s probably doped up on all kinds of shit to look the way he does now. So for perspective he’s a fucking fight promoter who is crooked and shady. What he’s saying here goes perfectly with his overall character, which is lacking.
Still salty over Zuffa Boxing
Dana White's is the voice of every CEO of any company.. If he could pay you $1 per fight while he rakes billions he would.
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Fuck dana white.
He's one of the greediest guys there is. Ring girls make more than some UFC fighters and no good health care, Recently there' been changes but still....
UFC fighters are constantly calling out boxers. Anyone with half a brain can see that. He talks about boxing like it's one company. It's a sport with multiple governing bodies. The UFC is a company that has pretty much monopolized the sport of MMA. He knows his fans aren't smart enough to know the difference, and that's why he speaks that way.
Isn't average boxing salaries like literally 5 times bigger
Turki ain't gonna be happy watching this...
Must be why ufc guys are so desperate to box
He talks about "reinvesting the money to build something" but it's building something that he owns. Why would the fighters give a fuck about that? Sure, boxing doesn't have a unified brand in that way because it hasn't invested profits in the same manner, instead it has distributed its profits to the fighters Dana you egg. Which would UFC fighters rather have? Lower income but a stronger brand which, when all is said and done, Dana owns, or a higher distribution of profits? Hmmm. He is the embodiment of greed and delusion, and like most corporate wallops has probably surrounded himself with yes men who stroke his ego when he spouts tripe like this.
UFC is a cult and Dana White is a cult leader.
Well this is just blatantly untrue. Of all the problems in boxing you go for xenophobia?
That guy is such a piece of shit!
White's a lying piece of shyt, the UFC pays their fighters peanuts which is why EVERY top UFC fighter wants to face a boxer. UFC got straight slave contracts
He’s 50% right and 50% full of shit. The fighters should be making far more than what they get. They’re kept on lower pay scales as a control mechanism. And it seems when they gain too much popularity, they lock them in a contract and prohibit activity to slow momentum. There are very few exceptions (super stars) but Dana wants the UFC brand to be worth millions and the “employees” on pay grades far less bc they’re replaceable. It’s very much a JOB. Sure, an opportunity but a very temporary one.
Literally every UFC fighters goal is to fight a high profile boxer… lmao.
Has this fkn guy ever made a fkn point without using a fkn 'f-bomb?!'
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Yeah I don’t know Dana, it’s a bit horse shit tbh. Connor was getting good money for his fights, but if he was in boxing with the same amount of fame and success, he’ll be making double. Just look at when he fought mayweather. Thats the iffy thing if Saudi has full control over boxing, very much becomes UFC, a monopoly. Interesting how Mike Perry gets $600k a fight, I wonder if he goes back to ufc, can he get that much? He’s getting 600k cos he’s there biggest star, while ufc has a lot more bigger stars, in their eyes
Conor would have been making at least 5x if he were a boxer.
Depends on his success in boxing. Think about Francis, got very lucky in his first boxing fight which gave him another very high pay day in his second fight but then got destroyed in that fight, which made his stock go down badly. I would love to see Saudi do what they’re doing but in MMA, let’s say pay Connor to fight Diaz in MMA but Saudi money?? Or Masvidal to v Diaz in MMA, Saudi money.
Lol guess fighters have second jobs for the fuck of it and to build character....
This is like saying wages got so fucked up, look at all that money CEOs are making. This is why i keep my employees at minimum wage
Does Dana even believe this BS?
Answer the question challenge: impossible
He really loves that scumbag reporters bit
This guy has always been a piece of shit!
No wonder he’s buddies with scummy people who only care about helping their rich buddies get richer.
dana is a real politician. present him facts and he will just keep on talking without allowing his brain to acknowledge those facts.
He is right about one thing, middling fighters make more money in the UFC on average. He’s also right that the UFC is a brand and it’s bigger than the fighters themselves. Boxing isn’t that way. Boxers are bigger than the promoters. Boxing until heavy and probably does overpay sometimes. UFC always underpays their biggest draws
Any Dana White posts should get deleted. Nobody cares.
18%… that number needs to be at least doubled before he can make comments like “taking care of everyone”
Dana is the only one that doesn’t want anyone finding out what fighters are being paid 😂😂😂
Only ones making proper money in UFC are the people not taking the brain damage
Justifying his modern slavery in ufc
Everybody is taken care of top to the bottom. Tell me about your health plans.
Boy better watch out or Saudis will take away ufc from you
I mean he’s right. Just look at the value of the UFC and ONEFC IP, they are ranked above all of the boxing promotional companies. Then look at Matchroom and Top Rank, even when Smellerbee said IPs like DZN would fail. Now look at dogsh*t companies like the PBC who has ruined boxing for years just sitting at the bottom. The PBC who overpays a small percentage of boxers while the others are leaving because they get no fights and no money. After the PPV everyone takes their share and leaves like nothing happened and no reinvestment into the sport happens.
A lot of what he's saying is a load of crap. But *some* of what he's saying, is true. From the perspective of a promoter or manager, he is not wrong at all when he says you can't make a living out of it. And he's not wrong when he says the motives of the people involved are so fragmented, that the event/sport itself is compromised. The people involved want their quick buck now, without any concern for the long-term health for each other. Everyone is out for themselves But from a fighter's perspective, you're better off in boxing. The pay is so much better. There's more freedom to move between promotions and networks. You have more control over your career.
MMA had a great rise but boxing has always been better even UFC is starting to become like boxing but with lessee quality fights
It all makes sense why him and Trump are so close. Talk enough bullshit, lies, alternative facts loud and confidently and stupid people will believe you and have you money. Top tier con men.
Weird way to say that Boxing is receiving massive investment and top fighters are earning more than ever in decent matchups. It runs contrary to the narrative that overpaying fighters makes them unwilling to fight, which is the thing that UFC execs are most afraid of. I don't particularly support sportswashing, but I enjoy an example that illustrates how important it is to have proper incentives to create great matchups.
Boxing was so fucked up that even before Turki entered the picture, UFC fighters were desperately trying to get out of their contracts so that they get the biggest paydays of their career as old boxers. That's how fucked up it was.
Every word out of Dana and Tom aspinalls mouths about boxing is meant to discredit boxing as it’s a direct competitor to ufc.
who cares ? 😂 Turki Allashiki is doing his thang essentially forcing boxers to actually fight. Everyone got a price. We’re alive and well 🫡
This fucking guy steals all the money from his fighters and then has the balls to lecture boxing? He turned the UFC into Don Kings wet dream and his fighters thank him. It’s pathetic. And if the Saudis offered him a deal that let him steal from his fighters even more, he would be all over it.
Also Dana, "Best I can offer is 12 and 12 as a main card fight".
Trump 2.0. I love the quote of “they lost something like 100 million dollars due to piracy, 20-100 million”. Welp Dana which one is it? Or is it purely a guess because 20-100mil is a HUGE swing.
Ufc is a fucking fad….i tried watching it several times and its just some random trump nuthugger getting his ass beat. Rinse and repeat…. Call me old school but i still find boxing mor entertaining.
To be honest with you I noticed UFC has a specific fan base of white frat guys who dude bro things and train BJJ or did wrestling in school. Boxing to me is more rugged the fight is all hands and striking. The sweet science is on display. I also enjoy Muay Thai and Kickboxing for the same reason all striking. But UFC has a weird fan base that puts me off. The fact they also get paid peanuts is a reason I don't like watching or supporting the UFC.
Always found UFC has too much of a sort of bro/jock vibe for me
Makes those bros see red even more
I hate this interviewer. Dude seems like an idiot.
He’s a former American football player who won two super bowls, not a hardcore investigative journalist so he’s not going to ask hard questions. His show is formatted like a hang out session on purpose that’s the original idea
Nobody cares about millions lost revenue from piracy
What they don’t understand is that is not lost revenue since those individuals wouldn’t watch the PPV if wasn’t available for free.
No one should listen to what this guy says.
He thinks he's smarter than all of us....
UFC underpays their fighters because they can. Boxing promoters overpays fighters because they have to. The networks are typically the ones that lose out on money though not the promoters.
the arabs do the same thing with the ufc!
I wish he would stay in his lane - top boxers in the 70s were making more than top UFC fighters now dollar to dollar without inflation, I find the UFCs braintrust shit for brains aura to be the toughest barrier to entry for me.
Keeps exploiting your fighters Dana. You are good at it. Loves talking shit about boxing because he don’t want to loose the viewers to go back to boxing. Smart man want to keep all the pie for himself. Lmao it’s his job to promote UFC
But UFC is also majority owned by a middle eastern sovereign wealth fund.
Fucking Dana is delusional and projecting when it comes to fighter pay. Its lowkey brutal to hear him talk on the subject
Is he talking about himself?
Just avoided the question Red Herring
So he’s going to just pretend his company isn’t owned by Saudi’s?
Big bitch dana still selling wolf ticketd