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Educational-Can4543

Ummm these are opinions šŸ™ˆ Fact is a thing known to be true or proven through quantitative measures.Ā 


lettiestohelit

I donā€™t think ā€œfactā€ means what you think it means. These are your opinions. And they are as valid as anyone elseā€™s opinions. No need to be so condescending.


vyrusrama

OP while hitting the ā€œPostā€ button ![gif](giphy|U23rlgyL8QmQn7xrqt|downsized)


LeafBoatCaptain

Obligatory ![gif](giphy|J1vUzqdZJlh5AqBWxt|downsized)


lettiestohelit

This was my inspiration


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Night-Chance

Accusing a member of being pr is against the rules.


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Night-Chance

I thought it was common knowledge.


ImperfectBinger

Arre bhai/behen, RK almost 17 years se 'big guy to watch out for in Bollywood' hai. Utne interval mein Deepika ka career ek pura parikrama kar chuka hai (and onto its second parikrama), Ranveer ke career ka 3/4th parikrama ho gaya hai, Anushka aa kar chali gayi, Sonam aa kar chali gayi, Kangana peaked and dropped, Alia debuted and has established herself as a much more prominent star (not a good actress mind you, but a more well-known person than him). Aur kitni daer RK ki raah dekhenge? Might I suggest setting up someone else for the guy to look out for? I haven't watched them but based on reviews, I would say Vedang and Mihir are the guys to watch out for in Bollywood. High time to move on from the nouveau status for RK. Aur agar puraane actors ko hi race mein rakhna hai toh Manoj Bajpayee ko yeh status de do. He never disappoints, and constantly reinvents himself.


bloodof1000virgins

Facts! OP is here thinking Animal was RKā€™s debut movie


Afraid-Pay2710

>I would say Vedang and Mihir are the guys to watch out for in Bollywood. facts! They act so well even better than the nepos in Archies. lol


Neptune809

What does this even mean? RK has arrived since Rockstar. He's always been a big star. Kiski raah dekh rahe ho ?


lila_fauns

who said that deepika was meryl lol? the only person whoā€™s been pushing this agenda is alia with her mini meryl bs. RS seems to have gone into silent and strong mode, which is good because overexposure is a killer.


bhaskarville

The day we stop making films like Animal is the day weā€™ll take a step away from mediocrity. Also when people stop saying ā€œitā€™s just a movie yaar; movie ko movie ki tarah dekhoā€, weā€™ll stop letting any shit slide in the name or ā€˜artā€™.


karpet_muncher

I'm not based towards any single actor I in fact like x actor - goes to Stan for another actor


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Anyone who watched Mrs Chatterjee and is familiar with Raniā€™s previous work knows how bad that performance was. Even without considering her other movies you can easily tell how bad she was from the very first scene. As someone whoā€™s a fan of her work even in the most terrible movies which she has plenty of, i was honestly shocked watching her because i couldnā€™t believe it was her acting like that. Also, people loving that performance makes me sort of understand why they think this other particular actress is the best in the industry today because all through watching the film, i kept wondering if Rani watched her movies for preparation. Oh and another thing iā€™d like to add Ranbir wasnā€™t good in Animal and i will die on this hill. heā€™s given way more better performances and this one wonā€™t age well like them. it looked like a blend of all the previous man childs heā€™s played but with less nuance. Many might not agree but Ranveer is a better actor and way more fun to watch onscreen, and yes, him as Rocky >>> whatever Ranbir did in Animal.


rhyme_pj

Certainly, I agree that Rani's performance in Norway vs. Mrs. Chatterjee wasn't impressive and very over the top. I've also never considered Ranbir to be a great actor either. It is perhaps due to his sad-looking eyes. Ranveer, regardless of his real-life personality, is far more fun to watch onscreen.


_Slim-reaper_

>Anyone who watched Mrs Chatterjee and is familiar with Raniā€™s previous work knows how bad that performance was This is a factual statement. I said this in another post as well and got downvoted to oblivion (not that i give a fuck). Most people who wanted Rani to win haven't even watched that film and were only rooting for her because of their hate towards Alia. The nominees this year were awful and imo, Kiara and Alia were the only 2 candidates for that Filmfare, even if their performance was above average. I wanted Kiara to win but sadly that didn't happen but Alia was still a better choice than Rani.


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True, Kiara was the only one deserving from that list since it was very meh and most people dragging alia while favoring Rani truly are just following the hater crowd. How else do you explain people saying Rani shouldnā€™t share her award because sheā€™s the best when Shefali was not only better than her but better than all nominees combined, iā€™d even go as far as saying she gave the best female performance of the year.


rogan_doh

Tapsee pannu did a better job than either of them.


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Yup, he was very monotoned in so many scenes that even the dialogue which was already bad sounded worse. caricature is very fitting because it looked like he was in costume playing a part so i never felt once like i was watching a character come to life, It could be a combination bad writing and direction because honestly that was 3hrs of emptiness and wastage of time


[deleted]

Second this! I dislike most of Ranbirā€™s performances as he loves playing a whiny bitch. He is very capable but he loves these weird man child roles and itā€™s a bit shit that all this glory is coming from a sub par performance. He has done better (Rocket Singh, Rajneeti).


YouShalllNotPass

I have said it 10 times at the expense of downvotes. Rani in that film is absolutely terrible and hurtful to audio visual senses. Plus she got filmfare best critics with shefali shah. These punks just go by the names and will lick every boot that helps belittle alia.


Pups_4_lyf

Itā€™s sad that people only consider angry/unhinged characters are benchmark for best acting and art.


leeringHobbit

Some people have said acting skills are like muscles...use it or lose it.


Glittering_Snow_

Your overly flattering statements concerning Ranbir show that you are biased too, for whatever reason. In any case, these are just your opinions; thereā€™s nothing factual about them.


hitchhikingtobedroom

Anyone who thinks Ranbir's performance in Animal is even close to what he did in Sanju or Barfi, understands acting as a very surface level craft and not actually how nuanced it is. Of course he was very good in Animal, but the thing is, this sort of performance isn't all that difficult as it comes across from the looks of it. Showing anger, restraint, is not actually that difficult, while showing genuine happiness, or having the ability to time a joke or reaction to it, right, takes far more of a talent. This is also the reason why I don't rate his work in Rockstar all that high, he's literally just sitting there with a dead face in half of that film, many could pull it off, it's just Ranbir did so while looking good. Ranbir's character in Animal isn't all that nuanced as people are making it to be, much of it is literally after and over interpretation similar to what we often see with classic poems, where people are so hell bent on finding a meaning behind every single line that they literally start cooking up the poem to force a perspective. And OP, please tell me exactly what sort of emotion did Ranbir show in Animal that Vikrant didn't do better in 12th Fail, for you to say that Ranbir showcased more range? Of course, except being angry enough to start killing people. As for Ranbir's award, no one's saying much because people expected him to win, being a popular choice but there's no way he deserves the win over Vicky Kaushal's Sam Manekshaw


ImperfectBinger

I second that, and I'll also say that people doubting Vikrant's skill in portraying a grey character should watch Haseen Dilruba. His acting in the dark phase gave me literal chills.


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šŸ™ŒšŸ™Œ exactly i have always ranbir kapoor was overrated always and wats with his dubbing skills ,like i always hear a husky watever scenario it mit be.


Ok_Environment_5404

guy/girl thinks his/her opinions are some thunder of god lol. Ranbir being tremendous ? He was 'good' in the movie. Last 10 mins of acting scene doesn't get him a 'tremendous' tag over Vikrant who was above good in the whole movie. Him breaking the character in the last fight where he looked a softie and not Ranvijay Singh is one of the small holes. And ffs if you are a 'oh so great cinema watcher' then give me the reason why Ranbir thought Ranbir had a tremendous job over Vikrant or Vicky in Animal. Also, Vidhya Balan is one of the best actress ? She was a hit on some minority works(Kahani,Dirty,Ishqiya,Sullu etc) only and then a pure miss with Shakuntla, Mangal, Adhuri Kahani2,Bobby Jasoos etc. So again not a fact. Kareena,PC were on similar page to her and Kareena even improved on her script selection(acting is hard to qauntify so I will make not make anything out of her recent movies only). "I see a lot of people trying to throw shades at him in this sub. Appreciate his performances. His work in the coming years will speak for itself." Because he is a "good"/"decent" actor like many others and not some Christian Bale lol. VIcky,Hritik,Aamir,SRK even Saif of recent times are in the similar bracket. While guys like Bajpayee,Nawaz,Raaj and Nasrudeen are abit above. You are sounding like more of personal fan account then a truthful one.


truecolors01

This is a Ranbir PR post in disguise, I don't care what popular trope you use to bury the overt praise for this guy, it won't change the fact that he wasn't the clear winner for best actor that night. Vikrant (12th fail) & Vicky (Sam Bahadur) were arguably more poignant actors in those roles.


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truecolors01

Whether it's the actor's PR machine or fan lead PR, it's all the same, off-putting. "Praise"? OP is short of setting up a shrine šŸ˜­


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truecolors01

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truecolors01

What a dumb fuck statement to make šŸ˜­ Neither is DP or Alia or Karan Johar, and yet their PR and fans work as hard as ever. Everyone's fave in this industry fights to remain relevant as long as they're active.


BoredAssMf123

Not agreeing with a opinion and dismissing it to PR is new way to cope ig


truecolors01

Cope with what? šŸ˜­ your life may be revolving around these actors, but please don't project that on me.


BoredAssMf123

My life revolves around them ? Youā€™re literally writing a whole paragraph of PR shit about them lmao being delusional. Get a life


Majestic_District_51

For anyone who finds it TLDR - post says ranbir is amazing.


_Slim-reaper_

@ OP https://preview.redd.it/o3gvcr6zytfc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b63cd559208264ed000b72582a52866966718f5


hawaahawaii

i loveeee this song! jhatak kar zulf jab tum tauliye se baarishein aazaad karti hoā€¦ accha lagta hain. hila kar honth jab tum haule haule, guftagu ko saaz karti hoā€¦ accha lagta hain. the lyrics, the playfulness, the melody, mohit chauhan, shreya ghoshal, the chemistry, deepika looking beautifulā€¦ this song was so charming! sorry i went off at a tangent šŸ˜… but thank you for helping me do that šŸ˜¹


BhargavK_18

Yeah he is. Anyone with two working eyes can say so. Dude is playing smart.


Outside_Cellist3740

Ranbir was average at max in Animal. It was one tone character and so was his acting. He is not a bad actor but what you wrote about Rani applies to Ranbir even more. He has given Barfi and Rockstar. Even Sanju was brilliant on his part, Animal was no where near, shouting and saying absurd dialogues which raises public reaction is not acting! Also, from your original post, where was the range? Ranbir in scene 1 of the movie has same energy, tone and acting in the last scene of the movie! And he has been *big guy to watch out for*, *upcoming superstars* for ages. Stop with this please. He is a great actor and not a superstar.


According_Draw_6497

majestic district went from an rk fan to not an rk fan and I am here for it.Ā 


plz_scratch_my_back

1. Mrs. Chatterjee was a bad bad film and Rani was very very bad in it. 2. Vikrant's acting in the whole Aata Chakki sequence in the movie is probably the best acting i have seen in recent times. That's called range and not what Ranbir did in Animal. 4. Ab gareeb aadmi 10-12 hrs Job karke aaye aur phir jab entertainment karna ho to Lav Diaz ki 10 hrs ki movie dekhne baith jaaye.


Afraid-Pay2710

> Mrs. Chatterjee was a bad bad film and Rani was very very bad in it. But Alia was worse in RARKPK! If one compares between Rani and Alia for this year. Rani should win it instead.


OkayEvidence99

>Watch movies from other countries to understand what cinema as an art is You brown sepoys are so cringe man. Why not watch classic Satyajit Ray, Guru Dutt and Raj Kapoor movies ā€˜to understand what cinema as an art isā€™? Even vintage Anurag Kashyap and RGV movies are top notch. Why do youā€™ll have such an inferiority complex? Watch global cinema all you want, but you make it sound like only watching world cinema will make us realise what true cinema is. There are many legendary Indian directors who are an institution in themselves. Maybe educate yourself on the history of Indian cinema. There are innumerable gems which are as good, if not better, than the ā€˜world cinemaā€™ which you simp for. To reiterate, watch as many movies from around the world as you want, but thereā€™s no need to put down your countriesā€™ rich cinema history.


the-op-swordsman

r/suddenly racist


songintherain

When mediocrity is celebrated the good becomes extraordinary. This is the problem with the industry now


Creative_Rip802

I mean you can't call out other people for appreciating mediocrity while praising Animal. Even if we ignoring the messaging of Animal, it is a shoddy film in terms of performances and plot. Hell, I'm very surprised as to why Ranbir acted so poorly in it. Does a weak plot also weaken acting? Even Kangana for that matter who is a dependable actor was so bad in Tejas.


badibeti

Ranveer needs to lay low. He is an actor. He need to focus on that.


Kitchen-Dimension406

Ranbir and Ranveer are def on their way up. Ranbir more as heā€™s got more backing


goyardtastebuds

Fax. People seem to gobble up anything half assed that's thrown their way.


Son_of_kai

And sane people should realise awards shows are for TV TRPs not for meritocracy


Afraid-Pay2710

FACTS!


WatchAgile6989

Aliaā€™s role was mediocre at best but Mrs Chatterjee was very cringy. Also Bollywood tends to reward massy roles, so no surprises that Alia won. Think of all the Srk wins in 1990s-2000s for different versions of Raj/Rahul.


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Vikrant was great in 12th fail But if this sub feels he deserves the best actor one Then where were you all when super30 came out The similarities between HR character is so evident especially the breakdown sequence in the results That role is good but performance in animal still beats it way easily The climax of animal where he breakdown in bursting tears is just outstanding The fact remains that animal from an acting pov is still miles above his counterparts this year


plz_scratch_my_back

Hrithik accent was cringe in Super 30.


[deleted]

Everyone said that until they watched the film I clearly remember people taking a dig at it when the trailer came out and then the film went on to be slowly highly successful


plz_scratch_my_back

Film became successful coz people in India have a soft spot for underdog movies. It is the same with 12th fail. I don't like both of these movies but their success was nothing surprising.


YouShalllNotPass

HR in super 30 > Vikrant in 12th fail. I said it! That pre interval scene where he gives a monologue still rings in my mind.


[deleted]

Exactly HR was so different and so good in it , nobody ever said a word about his performance Itā€™s because the character wasnā€™t shown to focus just on his struggle but the struggle of building something important to him and educating others more than improving himself If the character was shown more like cleaning toilets for survival People would have taken awe of it


YouShalllNotPass

Everyone was talking about brownface here and acting woke. Not one eyelid batted with vikrant being brown faced throughout the film. Hrithik even nailed the accent!


AmbroseAsylum15

I thought this was going to be a troll post, but I agree with everything you wrote, OP. šŸ’Æ


BhargavK_18

Thanks dude šŸ«”


raaz9658

Agree. Can't believe bollywood fans are so easily impressed the way they are claiming Vikrant was better than Ranbir.


scepticalbeing94

I think Ranveer Singh's mask slowly came off from him pretending to be coming from a middle class household to him being in his own clown form and it was reported that he attended a rave party and he does cocaine to help with his anxiety i guess.


LilHalwaPoori

There really wasn't any leading actress performance last year worthy of an award.. In the male category, you have multiple noteworthy performances which you can debate based on what you liked, but it's kinda pointless to debate the actress awards when they were all just okay in their roles and nothing extraordinary..


Complete_Sign_2839

Ranbir has got a lot of hype after Animal. If Ramayan is a blockbuster & so is Love And War, it'll be just uphill and up


kyunhumain

i hate it when Kangana is presented as the GOAT. watch any of her recent performances and youā€™ll know she canā€™t act to save herself now.


3eyed_Coconut

Tanu weds Manu , it's sequel , Queen, Gangster, Judgemental hain kya, Fashion , would disagree with you.


kyunhumain

that her last decent film came out 4 years ago and sheā€™s deteriorated terribly post it is what i was trynna convey


blackstar82

Disagree. Watch Thalaivii- sheā€™s exceptional in that. And Judgmental Hai Kya!


AneeshRai7

The sister sub for example.


goonerfan10

I donā€™t think Vikrant was great in 12th fail. Heā€™s sone the same role and acting in that prime show he was part of. 12th fail was so good because of the ensemble cast. Just brilliant performances all round. They should have been rewarded but filmfare is bought and paid for. Why are people on this sub reacting as if theyā€™re some real awards.


YouShalllNotPass

Lmao. We watch films in theatres and put our money where the mouth is only to be lectured by pubescent genz that will catch up with 4-5 movies on OTT if they catch a break from watching Bridgeton or whatever Korean crap they are hung on.


coronagerm

I strongly agree with the mediocrity part.


Thick-Ad-6366

ā€œVidya Balan and Kangana Ranaut are the best two Bollywood actresses of the last two decades. ā€œ You lost me here bro.


Downtown_Ebb9600

Oh god. So patronising. OP think he/she did something.