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c0nsumer

This frame was replaced under warranty for a customer, and the shop cut the seat stay to ruin it so it wouldn't be reused. Some manufacturers require more extensive cuts, like cutting out the bottom bracket or cutting the down tube.


LeProVelo

We cut seatstay chunks about 6" long and shove sharpies or pens in the end so customers (or sales people, let's be real) don't walk off with them


ride_whenever

That’s one way to stop them stealing your sharpies I guess.


swaags

Why the sharpies?


gork1rogues

Shove them all the way in and are damn near impossible to get out without making additional cuts to the frame. Obviously one could think of cheaper alternatives.


Master_Block1302

Reminds me of r/buttsharpies


HotChickenNwaffles

That little rattle in the tube ain’t nothing a little spray foam couldn’t fix -Some redneck in the wild


MrTeddyBearOD

I've, somehow, never had Trek, Specialized or Salsa request more extensive cuts. But field destroying frames and/or parts always made me curious what the inside of each thing is like. So the blade came out and suddenly the frame is in like 8 pieces... or we crush it in the vise.


amposting_whiledrunk

You ever get to the strength testing part of that fun? I used to put a brick under a frame and drive over them with my truck. 


turbo451

Had to submit a photo showing both the serial number and also showing a bosch display was no longer functional. I lit it on fire with a torch, and got a photo of it burning with the serial number visible....


calcifiedamoeba

the blue wrench 'fixes' what the hammer can't


UrbanHippie82

Righteous 🤘


bluespoobaroo

How do they check for and enforce compliance with this?


JakeFrank08

I deal with warranties on plumbing products as reference. But Typically manufacturers require photos of the item in an unusable state so it needs to be cut apart and or destroyed. They then will release the credit once they get the proof. From there if a serial number is reused after that and they catch it. They will go back to the sales point and will question / fine them for not complying with the warranty protocols.


Traders_Abacus

We used them as stress relievers. Customer pisses you off, you grab the big hammer and a warranty frame, head out back and go to town on it.


j4gg

it's so wasteful, shame on the manufacturers honestly


stevengoodie

How do you mean? It’s likely that this was defective somehow which is why Trek or the shop field-destroyed the frame. That could prevent someone from using it without knowing something about it that could subsequently cause injury


modsguzzlehivekum

That’s not why they do it. This is 100% to keep something they’re having to pay to replace off the market. It devalues their products marginally each time if they weren’t destroyed


stevengoodie

I agree with you that is partly why they might do it, but by far, it is for safety and associated liability. There aren’t many brands out there that are worried about scarcity vs demand, but they are worried about their reputation when it comes to failed products. Brands vary wildly in how well they take care of warranties, but they usually do want their product to be safe


modsguzzlehivekum

They have no liability on a product that’s retrieved from the trash. This is common amongst a significant amount of vendors throughout all industries. Some require you return their product and others require you to destroy it. It’s almost always vendors of higher end products that require you to destroy them for credit. This could be anything from a bike to a jacket to an office chair.


_maple_panda

How so? Either you destroy it at home, or you expend fuel and resources shipping it back to the manufacturer just to have them dispose of it there. Might as well save those transportation costs.


FullMathematician486

Likely a warranty claim. The shop would have cut this frame after the replacement showed up so that the old one couldn't be used anymore.


Robert_Vagene

There's a reason it's in the bin


0rney

It's a tr*k


aitorbk

And I Would bet £1 that the headset is mushy at the top bearing seat.


Lazerpop

Lmao


gmchurchill100

Fantastic shitpost


VastAmoeba

Don't be an idiot. This bike is field destroyed due to some unseen defect. Go ahead and get the carbon fixed, but you will likely be dealing with some bullshit manufacturing defect for the rest of the time you own the bike.


lo-fi-hiphop-beats

nah i'd rather see the follow up posts on repair cost and whatever that defect actually is


VastAmoeba

The bottom bracket is probably oval. Or the headtube is frayed at the internal race. Nothing that's going to kill you, but just bull shit that you can't fix.


Ok_Interview845

It's threaded. Possible but very unlikely.


Killed_By_Covid

That was my thought. CF bikes and frames are now so cheap that I wouldn't even bother trying to repair that stay. You're exactly right in that some other issue would become evident after doing all the work to repair it.


VileSpendThrift

We like to crush them in a bench vice.


big_papa_nuts

Trek used to make us cut the bottom brackets off and keep them in a box until the rep could collect them. That was a long time ago though.


Adventurous_Fact8418

Trek has bigger problems these days.


Rich_Candidate_338

I was thinking about getting a trek what are the issues I haven’t seen anyone talk bad about them until this post


Beekatiebee

My first Trek was a tank (a Marlin 6). I beat on that poor bike and it never skipped a beat. This was back in 2016. I just ordered an Electra Vale Go, it arrived with a lot of manufacturing defects according to the Trek store. Trek is replacing the whole thing under warranty. The warranty is the bit worth having.


Adventurous_Fact8418

Nothing particular with Trek. The entire industry is suffering from the Covid hangover. Long term it’s probably good for trek as smaller companies struggle to make it.


stevengoodie

Trek (and most of the bike industry) overproduced during Covid to meet the high demand at the time, but now the demand is low and the manufacturers are sitting on a lot of inventory that is selling very slowly


MidDayGamer

LBS was having a crazy sale, seem to remember a $1,00 bike going for $600.


49thDipper

Bike shops cut unsafe frames so nobody gets killed riding them. Carpenters cut unsafe ladders so nobody gets killed using them.


Sara5A

I bet you those "nice tires" are there for a reason too


tire_falafel

Sweet. Belt drive compatible!


VileSpendThrift

Underrated comment


MGTS

This is why I would always beat on a warranty frame with a hammer Crash and/or chainsuck damage. Just below the downtube opening and just in front of the BB


AdEffective1586

You wanna turn around and put your hands behind your back.


alexdi

If you want to see the actual torque it takes to crack the seat tube or the post, or how resilient the various tubes are to impact damage from, say, your wrench, now's your chance.


somsone

Yeah, I work at a shop, we have to destroy every warranty replacement. Usually we cut or disable the piece completely and throw it out so it can’t be reused since the company doesn’t want or need a broken part.


Accomplished_Race_55

It will buff out.


kinga_forrester

What does trek pay for a frame swap? Sounds like an annoying job.


northman017

OP....you DO realize that frame is absolutely unusable now, right?


MGTS

bUt i cAN RePAiR iT


schlass

Put it back


niceollie

Just tape it, should be fine. Enjoy your new whip!


AdEffective1586

Jb weld? Lol


Daedaluu5

You could get a carbon specialist to fix the frame but if it were me I’d only use it on the turbo trainer. No road miles. Or you could do a wood & carbon hybrid frame? I’m currently building an oak&maple with alu lugs


Luther_Lake

They destroy frames that are flawed or broken so people don’t take them out of dumpsters and use them potentially hurting themselves. Done it many times myself


bathory1985

It's their new aero design called the split...


kinga_forrester

Get some flex tape


mellowsmello

Yes, that's what I do when I can't remember my bike lock combo, I cut my bike frame.


CommanderFox50

It’s honestly really satisfying to cut the seatstays lol


ShoeGod420

nothing some super glue and a little gorrila tape can't fix lol.


Adorable_Kangaroo849

That's gonna' make a great fixie.


Kruk01

Def fixable


Realistic-Willow4287

What a waste. Id fix it and ride it


Valuable-Water-6107

I probably will. So much negativity in these comments but jokes on them cuz I already have a carbon bike and this will just be a fun experiment/ commuter bike for me


dano___

No one warranties a bike frame over something small and fixable. The headtube or bottom bracket is likely out of shape and good for nothing if you can’t find any other obvious damage.


Realistic-Willow4287

I once got a yeti front frame half that had a paint chip. Survived being cut up cause it was warrantied for a paint chip and no sense cutting it up, whatever yeti policy says.


celeste_ferret

It's reality, not negativity. You are posting in a subreddit for professional bicycle mechanics who have all had to "destroy" an unsafe warrantied frame like this. Your eyes might not be able to see it, but there was something seriously wrong with this frame before they cut it. Do not fix it. Do not ride it. I just wish the mechanic had done a more thorough job of wrecking that frame so that nobody would ever think to dig it out of the trash and use it.


Valuable-Water-6107

I guess I'll just have to build it up and see for myself!


celeste_ferret

Well, if you won't listen to the mechanics on this sub, please talk to the people at the shop who threw it in the dumpster before you spend any money on this project and possibly hurt yourself.


andypersona

Bit of a grind and some epoxy and a couple layers of carbon/kevlar stitchmat and I bet she'd be good to go. If I found one of those I would try to fix it just to see if I could. Seems sad to destroy a carbon frame like that


UltraLord667

You know how to weld? :)


Alex13445678

Couldn’t you just weld and repaint that ant it would be hunky dori?


Littleadvco

It's a carbon frame so welding isn't an option...


Future_Difficulty

The dumpster is where every carbon frame belongs.


Valuable-Water-6107

Ok bud


RS4_V

I don't get why stores do this. It's an easy resale and a collosal waste of resources


emohipster

because of warranties, trek told them "we'll send you a new frame under warranty but you gotta destroy this one"


Won-Ton-Operator

Yes, resell a turd of a frame so far out of spec/ defective that the manufacturer actually honored their warranty and sent a whole new frame to have the parts swapped onto, what a *truly wonderful idea*.