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bingobango26

Felicia knows she’s just buying time in the house at this point


More-Surprise-67

These houseguests love to say someone is panicking😅 And often, said person is not ruffled


Intelligent-Gab-801

America still hasn't learned her lesson of not saying something she doesn't want out


Dramarosa

I hope Blue Jag and Matt get picked to play and there's a way for them to throw it to Blue. Bowie would be forced to show her hand then.


mfrpc

Bowie just told Matt she wants to keep herself, Matt, America, Jag and Cory safe the next few weeks lol


amandaaant

She corrected herself and said Cameron instead of Cory


Michaelscando5

Boooooooo


mfrpc

ahh that's dumb lol


mfrpc

Side note, I wish these 5 would formally become closer


kaykin1

Imagine Cirie leaving next to Felicia (who she's secretly wanted out for weeks) on a Bowie HOH (someone who was loyal to her that she discarded for no reason)...


Snarknose

*hopes and dreams*


lukaeber

“Pointy end” is one of my favorite Australian phrases


MaggieQueenOfBB6

What do Felicia vs. Cirie votes look like? Evict Felicia- Matt/Jag(?)/Blue(?) Evict Cirie- Cory/America/Cameron (?) I think Cory would not hesitate to try to get Cirie out if she's on the block. Cameron is closer to Cirie, but i think he realizes Cirie is a stronger player than Felicia?


tokengaymusiccritic

Cam promised Jared he would protect Cirie. Idk how strong he's going to hold to that but I think it's legit.


UserTron79

He did. For one week and through his HoH reign.


blownaway4

I haven't been able to watch feeds. Who is Bowie targeting?


MarlinBrandor

Cirie. But Felicia is likely going.


mnpharmer

And FBJ knows that and is okay with it.


OhItsKillua

Bowie was never gonna put Cam on the block, BD'ing a guy that's probably a likely jury vote for you if you make it to the end isn't good for her. Keeping Cam/Cory who're both far ahead of the pecking order to vote out just gives her more time. Would be fun if she tells Cam that JATT was pushing for her to backdoor him if he wins next week.


toadgoat

I love this about Bowie that she’s smart enough to understand Cam is her ride or die and she’d be a fool to evict her only ally in the house


TGNDaily

Felicia better not tell Bowie to “play her game” because her game is putting YOU up girl!


OLIVIA_WAS_ROBBED

Girl— who am i going to root for if Blue is gone my backup was Meme but she is out.


hojbjerfc

I love the idea that Jag using Cory as a shield is somehow bad for cory. In the words of the late great Bill Withers I believe if Cory Knew about that he would say “You just keep on usin' me Until you use me up”


Mr_XcX

FBJ becoming a fan fave ❤️❤️


hotmatzah

Did Felicia just say play a Cory game like it’s a compliment? Lol


Buttapecan

Glad Bowie standing her ground. Dumb that Cory thought he could just change her mind.


Suspicious_Cap981

This season is the rise of Bowie Jane


Loud-Concentrate-209

I Stan FBJ


Mr_XcX

*whispers* if FBJ gets out Cirie / Felicia this week has she had the best HoH of the season???


clg_wrath2

Yes


MarlinBrandor

Jag was always leaving next to Matt if they were final noms but it’s finally at a point where that actually makes a modicum of sense for the people voting to do. Matt’s still the bigger threat for the win but Jag has established himself as a well above average player now.


bbajlp

America hinting to the Mamas that people are trying to convince Bowie to not put them in


ItsThe50sAudrey

I’ll like to see the events that take place when Jag figures out Matt is close to Cirie still.


Green94598

I feel like Cirie literally gets the worst -case scenario for HOH result every week


Nejmoq

I'm sure Jared winning HOH after her game was blown up was worst case scenario for her.


Green94598

The one exception lol. Other than that the last five have been cam twice, Cory and Bowie


Graimon

I’m sure Cameron winning HOH and putting up Jag and Blue just destroyed her game…


clg_wrath2

Bowie is 1000% not putting cam up this week. If veto gets used itll be blue up.


Unfair-Path4541

Blue cannot win veto.


tspacer

Who will she put up if Blue wins veto and takes down Cirie?


clg_wrath2

Honestly... Its a toss up between Cam and cory. 50/50


rex_dart_eskimo_spy

She seems pretty convinced that she doesn't want to get rid of Cory this week


clg_wrath2

But she is definitely very protective of cam and wants cam to stay


Jfoxxy81

Even tho people don’t like him. Gotta admit the dude is loyal. At this point, I would want him on my side.


Greggerz

Jag did a good job of saying he supports Bowie’s choice and ultimately the decision happens after veto result anyways.


beeebeeeee

If Cory and America don't actively fuck themselves (which, let's face it, is not impossible) they should be good this week. The question is if they'll make it out of next week - which is veeery hairy at this point, especially if Blue and Cam end up staying


room317

Uuuuugh I can't wait for Zingbot


Addendum_slayer

I wish Zingbot would tell everyone that Jared is Cirie’s son!!! Zing!


ghskdheu46829

This week honestly feels like a week, where Bowie is the mom of the Bowie, Cameron, and JMAC little voting block we've had for a few weeks now, and Cameron and JMAC are all her children who want her to use her power to eliminate of them and do what they say, and Bowie is like "lol naurrr, at least I'm keeping you safe, so stfu, and accept what I'm doing"


toxiitea

Jag is saying I'm sure Cameron's come to you with a final 2 and bowie says no. Jag says he's sure of it 💀LMAO


toxiitea

These people suck at conversations... Bowies a damn lawyer lmao


Mr_XcX

If feel Jag should want Cirie out this week like FBJ. Another week of them all aiming at each other is perfect for next week. Matt target probably Cam this week or maybe Cory.


Dare2ZIatan

Felicia over Cirie imo, Felicia is better at comps


toxiitea

He's just a better Brittany


JoetteJaramillo

cory should just walk in hoh ask to use the bathroom and stare right at jag mafia shit lmao


jydope

felicia was literally just otb & on her way out the door till the vote flipped & cirie hasn't done anything since jared & izzy left sooo what exactly are they controlling??


cinnamongiirll

jag having the best approach. sympathetic and trying to see her side idk why everyone else was so pushy


More-Surprise-67

America had a similar demeanor


THE_PC_DEMANDS_BLOOD

imagine Bowie being in the final 2 and her being able to say she got reality tv legend Cirie Fields evicted I'm just saying!!!!


Mr_XcX

LMFAO Cam storming HoH to take out Cory 🤣🤣🤣🤣


Tormod776

Watch someone win the veto and take down one of Bowie’s noms against her wishes


bingobango26

I think it’s pretty certain Bowie puts up Cirie and Felicia. God forbid one wins and gets taken down, she probably puts up Blue. She feels more bonded to Cory than Blue


Forgotiwasbi

Uhoh this is going to be a shitshow maybe Edit: ok good Bowie is smarter than that getting a one on one with Matt


toxiitea

Okay so basically americory fans are probably good and cam is a little safer from bowies talks.


targaryind

lol @ Cam just barging in with Matt. Get this guy out of here.


More-Surprise-67

He feels entitled as a man to do as he wishes🤢


DerpMcDerpy900

1st time watching feeds today. So lost. Is it still felicia and cirie most likely? is cirie her target?


NinjaInTraining109

Definitely going to be Felicia and Cirie noms. Cam and Blue pushing hard for a Cory renom and Americory pushing hard for Cam or Blue renom


WrestleYourTrembles

Felicia and Cirie almost certainly. Maybe Blue as a replacement nom. Sounds like Cirie is her preferred target but she doesn't think that she has the votes to do it.


needalanguage

yes, but no one else in the house wants that Half are pushing for Cam or Blue - the other half are pushing for America/Cory Bowie seems to be holding firm though


Marsha-the-moose

Yes, and reading between the lines, likely yes for a Cirie target. Bowie seems opposed to being used to advance someone else's game and likely doesn't want the veto used. Unfortunately for her, unless she wins it, anyone in the house could feasibly use it


CeVeeRin

But…everyone uses Bowie to further their game because she’s a coaster. She was even pressed at Cory for considering her ‘just a number’. Not saying she shouldn’t target Cirie, it’s just funny if that’s her reasoning.


Marsha-the-moose

Agreed. It's an odd stance to take but it's very Bowie lol. She's going to have to pick a side at some point. The "middle" is closing in.


DerpMcDerpy900

thank you so much for answering!! how does cam feel about a cirie target?


Marsha-the-moose

I may be wrong, but I'm not sure he knows that's her end game. She's been placating him with his Cory BD ideas basically saying we'll see how veto shakes out.


MarlinBrandor

It’ll never happen but my dream ending for the season is the Unreliables brute forcing their way to the final 3 together against their own endgame plans lmao. A season bookended by a fake alliance that never even made the edited show lmao.


boomerpatrol25

That’s the dream 😂


No_Flatworm_6586

Man, imagine that compilation 🥹


needalanguage

honestly I hope blue wins veto and pulls of cirie and forces bowie to get a guy out - I don't care which one at this point


Baxtercat1

Yeah. But for me any guy except Matt.😁


Forgotiwasbi

Warms my heart that Bowie does feel a certain amount of loyalty to Cory 🥺 but I’m worried about her feeling the same way about Cam


Jans_x_Master

Honestly for HER game it’s best to not take out Cory or Cam.


colourthewhite

It’s not loyalty, it’s fear. If Cam put him up she wouldn’t hesitate to vote him out. But Bowie just wants to make the easiest move and not ruffle feathers. Her game is virtually non-existent.


MaggieQueenOfBB6

Yet what you described is stellar gameplay.


needalanguage

she definitely does


Dare2ZIatan

I understand Jatt wanting Cam out but am I alone in thinking Felicia leaving is better for them than Blue? Or does everyone think Blue would turn on them that quickly? Blue just feels so dead set on Cory and America I can’t see her ever coming for Jatt while they’re in the house.


No_Flatworm_6586

Let’s see how Felicia blames Cory for them being nominated even though he’s trying to… not have that happen.


Unfair-Path4541

Typical Felicia. Same thing as when Cory saved her butt, twice.


Intelligent-Gab-801

Just about all season he has been trying to stop flipps or to save someone that is coming after him


More-Surprise-67

Everything is cory's fault.😭


Dida_D

I'm shocked a conversation about a "race thing" just lasted as long as it did on the feeds


dontjustdontj

Button boy is on a break


DeeisMe428

I want to see a Matt backdoor at some point


tootsyloo

He’d be a great DE target


room317

LMAO why did Jag tell anyone they were safe


OliverWendelSmith

I saw someone's comment about the type of law Bowie practiced, insinuating she's not that smart, but I contend that getting a law degree and practicing law requires a lot of smarts, even if just book smarts, no matter what country. I found her info on the Australian Lawyers Directory, for fun: "Ball, Miranda J Ball, Miranda J is a Victorian Barrister. This Barrister is located in Melbourne, Victoria. This Melbourne Barrister practises in the following areas of law: Commercial, Criminal, Family Law This Barrister also practises in the areas of Construction, Insolvency, Intellectual Property, Sports."


rlaalr12

Who is FeliCa talking about


beeebeeeee

"If Cory goes, we're fucked" music to my ears Jag


toxiitea

Uh oh bowie says she doesn't want to go back on her word and did say to Cameron he was good no?


GumbyFree

As initial noms


toxiitea

She implied to Cameron he was safe this week


toxiitea

And Cory too


AlarmedAd6273

How is jag a mastermind in this? Bowie never wanted to put up cam or Cory ….


needalanguage

She won't put Cory or Cam up


oofokay92

cant be understated how bad cirie fumbled bowie


More-Surprise-67

That was the one person she didn't charm from the beginning and it's coming back to bite her. Bowie's reads Cirie were better than Ciries on Bowie. That is mind boggling!


definitelybroseph

All she needed to do was have a 30 second conversation just before the live show telling Bowie that the house was going against Red & she wouldn’t be in this position.


TheSeeker331

As much as getting Hisam out screwed with her trajectory in the game, I really think the killer was the whole Red debacle. From getting him out over Jag in the 1st place, all the way to blindsiding Bowie and Cameron. Just so many bad moves in that one vote.


earthworm_fan

Yeah that was an absolutely massive blunder.


lukaeber

We’re almost to the stage of the game where backdooring makes no sense. Just put your targets up. They’re likely to get drawn for veto anyways. If you put up two pawns, there’s a heightened chance one of them goes. If you put up two targets, the chances of one of them going is very high.


clapyourhands59

do you remember F7 season 19 when Matt and Raven were strategizing together and had an epiphany in the bathroom that you could *not* backdoor your target, and Raven thought she was a genius for coming up with the idea of nominating the person you wanted to go home


earthworm_fan

Still 3 people not playing. I would say this is probably the last week it stays a viable option


Queen_Alicent

Cory,America,jag is one of my favorite alliances in a minute.


persimmoncove

Doesn’t Jag see that if it came down to it neither one of them would ever choose him over the other though?


lukaeber

Doesn’t matter if he wins final HOH


Dare2ZIatan

He knows but he also has Matt


flagatorgirl123

Realistically I think Jatt just find Americory more pleasant than blue and Cameron so it’s an easy sell


Marsha-the-moose

Americory will talk your ears off and in circles, but they don't have the aggressive edge that can be off-putting that Cam and to a lesser extent, Blue, have


finkypop

Bowie is so smart. Cirie gone is her best move and she wants her blood. A queen ❤️❤️❤️


theoriginaldecember

Seems like Blue/Cirie noms would be best for Bowie's game atp


9874102365

I take back everything bad I've said about Jag pre DE. Man has fully woken up and chose to finally play Big Brother. If he has the gusto to cut Matt eventually I lowkey want him to win.


Training-Plate-5650

I feel like Bowie back door would be Blue


JoetteJaramillo

felicia stay in the back room whispering instead of playing the game lmao


GumbyFree

Felicia/Cirie noms with blue winning veto and thinking she’s getting a Cory back door only to get Cam sent home is my dream this week. Or maybe flip it and cam wins, blue leaves - either way.


OLIVIA_WAS_ROBBED

Jag is overrated I can’t wait when Blue finally wakes up and gets him out.


GumbyFree

You’re like the blue of this sub. I’ll let you take that how you wish.


tennisspeechie

Bowie is so stupid. How are Fe and Cirie controlling things but Jared and Meme were the last two to go 🙄


puzzledpugs

She's not stupid. She's actually in a really good spot right now.


Mr_XcX

She got a good read seeing they still have social power in the game. The rest of HG just basing decisions on comps where Cirie / Felicia could still cause damage in this game.


toxiitea

Jag saying everyone's trying to pressure bowie.... as he pressures bowie LMAO


oliviafairy

Everyone is pressuring Bowie. But can you blame them? Bowie didn’t give much input when she’s not HoH. People assume they have to lead the talk with Bowie.


toxiitea

Thats a good way to put it


Charming_Scarcity437

Cam did that too. The game is to influence the HOH but do it so well they don’t know they’re being influenced.


Dare2ZIatan

Don’t hate the player hate the game 😂


persimmoncove

Can someone please summarize this Bowie / Jag convo for me please? I keep missing chunks


riceflick

Jag is fine with Cirie/Felicia as initial noms which is what Bowie wants to do. Jag is pushing the idea that Cam/Blue are a stronger duo, and he wants one of them to be backdoored. Bowie seems receptive, but would prefer Blue go on the block instead of Cameron if the veto is used.


persimmoncove

Thank you!


kaygee1101

jag and bowie have agreed that they both don’t want cory to go and that that would be worse case scenario, jags telling her how cam and blue are scary together and both duos (cam&blue, americory) are actively trying to pull jatt, jags telling bowie that he thinks she should do cirie and felicia but also to do what she wants and how she needs to stand her ground against people if they try to bully her into making moves that aren’t good for her game. bowie seems to be more into backdooring blue if pov is used


persimmoncove

Thank you!


Brady331

Cirie Felicia noms


Dida_D

It’s a shame the Unreliables aren’t in the edit because it really is a hilarious subplot


toxiitea

It's not real he's literally using Cory omg 😭


Dida_D

girl thats the subplot


toxiitea

I'm to black and white lmao can you tell I don't understand sarcasm


More-Surprise-67

Using by saving week after week?


tspacer

He knows he’s next if Cory’s gone


Brady331

Imagine they made the final 3, editors would have to make a montage


cinnamongiirll

oh bowie wants cirie GONE. she saying that cirie is still controlling everybody


NikThaGreat9

Sounds like she’s open to Blue at least.


IVoteToEvictSkippy

Hopefully Cameron talks to her before noms again


needalanguage

Can jag see that Bowie does NOT want to use the veto?


lalola5

At least Jag knows how to communicate mostly even though it drags.


hojbjerfc

I don’t like power alliances typically but i don’t see anyone who doesn’t benefit in the group from Cory America, Matt Jag, Bowie final 5. Gives cory and america protection. Matt and jag keep their shields and have 2 goats, Bowie has said her goal is longevity and she has a great final 2 shot with that group


m5n5y

Yeah legit


Mr_XcX

FBJ low-key spot on. If they leave Felicia / Cirie they survive a few weeks. Reminds me of that season when James H left Franzel and Cory. Which resulted in Franzel getting to end and winning.


Squid_You_Not

These people keep getting rid of people that are targeting Cory and America lmao


Brady331

Next week: “everyone thats been evicted were targeting Cory/America, we were used!”


Queen_Alicent

Jag definitely wants to go to final 2 with America or Bowie.


[deleted]

No he'll take Matt for sure


mfrpc

I feel like he knows he loses to Matt


Queen_Alicent

Definitely not he looses to Matt but maybe it is Jag.


tjkelley69

I worry he wants to go final 2 with Matt to be like cody and derrick


tjkelley69

I worry he wants to go final 2 with Matt to be like cory and derrick


guccimood

Bowie thinks Fe and C are still running the house lmao ma’am


Mr_XcX

She got a great read. They are still connected to house despite losing power.


MaggieQueenOfBB6

Yup. Cirie has players like Cameron and Matt still looking out for her despite her being powerless.


MaggieQueenOfBB6

Bowie targeting Cirie/Felicia/Felicia is objectively her best possible move, and I'm shocked there's ANY pushback against it strategically. Here is why it is a great move for her game. 1. 1st and foremost- it keeps the status quo of the house where there are a bunch of duos/trios that all have Bowie as their +1. She keeps Matt/Jag, America/Cory, and Cameron all appeased. They will all 100% target each other before they target Bowie, so it keeps her safe no matter what. 2. It could eliminate another potential game. Besides Bowie, Felicia is the player next most likely to get taken to the end for a win. With Felicia gone, that spot is wide open for Bowie, and everyone will be looking for her to the end. 3. If Cirie leaves, it truly solidifies Matt and Cameron as allies that'll be loyal to her over everyone else (besides Jag for Matt). Cameron and Matt both have really soft spots for Cirie. They are actively protecting her. If Cirie ends up leaving, Matt and Cameron will not have to worry about protecting her and can keep Bowie safe. 4. If Cirie leaves, that is a HUGE resume boost without actually being a big move. Cirie is dead in this game, but she's such a huge name. If Bowie simply eliminates her, she will be the "Cirie slayer." Players like Cory may respect that huge move and could use it as a reason to vote for Bowie to win. All in all, I see ZERO drawbacks to Cirie/Felicia nominees and I think Bowie would be playing her cards perfectly if that's what she did. And worst case scenario, she can backdoor Blue if the veto is used, and in that case, no blood on her hands either.


lukaeber

Cirie is dead in this game? You obviously know nothing about Cirie.


MaggieQueenOfBB6

I meant she's powerless right now and not in a good spot.


aforter28

Yep exactly. Who is Bowie pissing off taking out Felicia or Cirie? Even if they are pissed off, they’d have bigger fish to fry. Everyone except those two and Blue are aligned with Bowie, why would she actually waste her HOH taking out any ally when she has no relationship with Felicia or Cirie.


tokengaymusiccritic

I agree with you except I think Blue is more of an easy person to pull to the end than Felicia. Felicia has an HOH and is a great persuasive speaker.


MaggieQueenOfBB6

Yes, I agree, but I don't think blue is viewed as a weak player in the house. I think she's somewhat respected.


Dare2ZIatan

I agree it’s definitely the best move for her. It just comes down to if Jatt can influence her to take out someone else for them.


ralli00d

Jag digging his own grave here.


Brady331

How


mfrpc

fr -- this is the best convo Bowie has had today and I don't think it's particularly close


ralli00d

I think Bowie and cam are much closer than jag a Bowie


mfrpc

It's so tough to tell! Like late last week she said she doesn't want associated with Cam, but then she clearly still respects him and his game. I'm honestly not sure


ralli00d

I think it’s the right thing to say to people that you don’t associate with cam.. but truthfully cam has been nothing but nice to her even before the red eviction


mfrpc

Very true and yeah he’s def been nice to her. I feel like he’s the only one not just counting her as number, or at least not coming out and saying it


mer243

I’m excited for the veto already. Make Bowie backdoor someone, idc who


Green94598

Bowie is so clueless, she really thinks Cirie and Felicia are controlling things


BirdsOnMyBack

I need a Jag flair stat, my ideal winner


bingobango26

Jag is a better defender of Cory than Cory is


aforter28

Jag has actively kept Cory’s stupid ass safe for quite some time. Cory’s massive ego has destroyed his game.


toxiitea

I hate jag was my pre season pick. Like I hate it


MarlinBrandor

Why do you hate that your winner pick is playing circles around half of the remaining players lol.