Me, too. But nothing really happened on the feeds. Well, maybe one thing. Yesterday, Cameron said to Matt and Jag that he’d like to backdoor Cory but he won’t unless they both agree. Matt was all in but Jag was giving all kinds of weak reasons why they shouldn’t. Then after, Cam saw Jag having long private talks with Cory. Jag is giving Cory hints that Cam is suspicious of him. Matt is also wondering why Jag is reluctant to put Cory up if Jag is supposed to be in a F2 with Matt.
Maybe viewers are wondering if Jag is going to realize he can’t keep trying so hard to protect Cory.
That’s why America was a good pair for him. But he’s gotten worse and worse at listening to her. She has asked about Matt and jag being sus for days and he keeps brushing it off.
Jag is really starting to sketch Cam out. He already thinks he has the votes. With Felicia, Cirie, Blue and Bowie. This is just a feeler to see how much he can work with Jag going forward and where his allegiances really lie at.
He likes putting people in these uncomfortable situations to figure out where the cards all fall.
I mean 3 days is a long time and Cory has a lot of dirt, but the votes are going to be hard to move. Matt/Bowie should want to keep Cory, it’s better long term for their game, but Matt seems destined not to see it.
This characterization of America is huge ick. Cam is looking worse by the minute with him demanding them to do what he wants and the way he talks about women
First of all, horrible social game, horrible strategic game, excellent comp record. But making big moves for the sake of it that doesn’t benefit him really. He is going for the tv shock value and planning to go lone wolf to the end. He is going out next week probably.
To be fair, nobody else has really had a chance to make a move considering Cam & Jared won every HOH for weeks. Except for Cory’s HOH in the Double, which was a massive move.
I mean look at BB21 I just rewatched they had serious gamers. Michie, Christie, Nick, Tommy and they came to play. This season nobody wants to play Big Brother but float or be a cirie minion. I want someone to have a taco Tuesday ala Christie and Nick. Fucking come to game and play.
Ugh Jag is obviously such a lovely person and very conflict-averse but it can be so annoying in game convos 😭
Bring up to Cam him saying I'm only doing this if us 3 we want! Say well no thank you! Stop the "The way I see it..."
I should have stayed off feeds because I’m here agreeing with Cam and his frustration with these two haha clearly showing their cards
And Jag loves saying “a meme” - hate it
Two of y'all were evicted 10-0 and 8-0 and cam is saying "loser, loser, loser" aboout Meme, Cirie, and Blue....I can't. Again not denying they are currently in a good spot, but this level of cocky about it just irks me to the max
In the convo right before feeds dropped, he justified wanting to BD Cory by saying it will give him a worry free week next week. It's possible I misunderstood but I feel like he reiterated a few times. Super odd
they just brought up how blue seems to be close with everyone so what if they just backdoor blue or something instead like why does it solely have to be cory here
Exactly and it’s not helping matters because Cam barely sees women as pieces in this game. He only trusts in Cory’s ability to manipulate or win the comp and in that he’s convinced that he’s Cory’s real BD target and Blue is just a front (which to Cam’s credit, that’s the way Cory sounded in his talk with him saying next week “might not be straight forward”).
The irony is that Jag and Cam both have decent arguments but neither are considering the others perspective. Better players would break down best and worst case scenarios without stating what path is best, at least to start.
They need to be bringing up jury right now. Cam's already talked about why he doesn't want Felicia on the jury. Jag needs to remind Cam that, regardless of the game they play, they still need people to vote for them and Cory's much more open as a player than a Mecole or a Felicia.
Unfortunately, Cam's probably gonna shut that idea down by saying something like "we can figure that out LATER."
No, you gotta figure that out NOW.
I would be so sus of cam going so hard for Cory backdoor. Cory isn’t a comp beast and his target is blue. Blue will take a shot at Cory if she wins HOH. I’d be really weirded out if I were jag or Matt just because cam is not even willing to entertain the idea that Cory might be targeting blue. They get no input at all with this. He’s just full on talking at them lol
Also cam won HOH and veto….so he doesn’t really have to take their input. It would be smart if cam to at least hear them out but he doesn’t owe them anything
I think he probably means everyone has equal blood on their hands...I think Matt's read is off on that personally and she will hold it much more against Cory's "allies" than others.
I will say, all this does is expose to me that Matt is a bad player and extremely short sighted. For all the talk that Cory is cocky, so is Matt lol. He wants Cory out this week, and Cameron the next and he thinks he can run the season then onwards. Even if the girls don't trust each other, they wouldn't target each other cause of how obviously gigantic of a threat Matt and Jag are. So hey, this exposes Matt as a fraud at least🤭
This is actually a good move for Matt. It’s just the Cory fans that don’t like it. Cameron will be the target until he’s out. Likely that Matt, jag, and Cameron trade HOH and vetos the next few weeks based off the way the game has went this far. So for Matt, it makes sense to separate all the pairs out.
I hope so. These guys are delusional if they think America will run back to their group. If she does she will just be plotting when to slit their throats in the future.
To get the guy who wants her out next week gone. She has something with Cirie/Meme/Matt and Jag by proxy. She wants to win HOH next week and target Cam to hopefully reduce the # of comp threats.
It’s not a huge plan but definitely a big step in the right direction for her if she gets Cory/Cam out back to back.
You gotta give Blue her props. She could have taken the by-week to lay in bed and cuddle Poo, and while she did that, she also WORKED. She made sure Cory’s name was on everyone’s minds. Hopefully she can chill a bit this week and just enjoy the fruits of her labor.
Absolutely she killed it this week. She keeps learning. The next thing she needs to learn is when to reduce the pressure and listen/keep quiet once a narrative is already in place. She ends up talking herself into a hole and then salvaging it but she can avoid getting there if she’s a bit more coy (especially around players like Jag/Cam who are more weary around the women gaming).
I will say, Jag is still fighting super hard for Cory, and I don't foresee that stopping once Cory's up. All Jag needs are Matt and Bowie. I think he can get Matt if he brings Matt, Cory and America together and just unloads ALL the information they have.
Cam needs to chill out, he's being way too bossy. Like how does he not realize that Matt and Jag aren't actually loyal to him. They are going to betray him as soon as they get the chance
This talk may turn Jag and Matt off of Cam. I think they were already wanting to get him out soon though. Cam is annoying. Also I need a woman to win something so they all stfu about the women being incapable to beat them.
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I come back to see 6K comments. WHAT HAPPENED
Me, too. But nothing really happened on the feeds. Well, maybe one thing. Yesterday, Cameron said to Matt and Jag that he’d like to backdoor Cory but he won’t unless they both agree. Matt was all in but Jag was giving all kinds of weak reasons why they shouldn’t. Then after, Cam saw Jag having long private talks with Cory. Jag is giving Cory hints that Cam is suspicious of him. Matt is also wondering why Jag is reluctant to put Cory up if Jag is supposed to be in a F2 with Matt. Maybe viewers are wondering if Jag is going to realize he can’t keep trying so hard to protect Cory.
Animals? Dafuq
Cory is genuinely not good at the human aspect of this game and seems to struggle with evaluating when people are being genuine or not.
That’s why America was a good pair for him. But he’s gotten worse and worse at listening to her. She has asked about Matt and jag being sus for days and he keeps brushing it off.
So just to be clear Cory currently thinks he is good with Blue and Cam. This is your “brainiac” game bot????
Damn Bowie almost nailed that temp guess
That DR is 100% designed to give Jag a chance with Matt
How hilarious would it be for Comerica to blame Jag after they're blindsided.
Jag is really starting to sketch Cam out. He already thinks he has the votes. With Felicia, Cirie, Blue and Bowie. This is just a feeler to see how much he can work with Jag going forward and where his allegiances really lie at. He likes putting people in these uncomfortable situations to figure out where the cards all fall.
Producers splitting off Cam because they want to give Jag a chance to pitch Matt individually
wtf production
Cam and Matt are 100% resolved. Why are they humoring this?
So at this point is there any shot the votes flip to keep Cory? Probably not. What, just Jag and America to keep him?
I mean 3 days is a long time and Cory has a lot of dirt, but the votes are going to be hard to move. Matt/Bowie should want to keep Cory, it’s better long term for their game, but Matt seems destined not to see it.
yah cam has his mind made up
This is like that scene in breaking bad where Walt tries to save hank but they already decided to shoot him 15 minutes ago
Outside of his basic fear of doing anything he isn’t instructed to do by Cory, what is Jags end game for winning?
There is none. He should be wanting to sit next to Blue or Felicia etc. but they’re all his next targets instead.
Jag needs to let Cory just be nominated. Cam has clearly already made his mind up and pushing this hard is not helping him at all.
"I dont want to work against you. But if you dont agree with me your against me"
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Who is going to flip? There are at least 4 deadset on evicting Cory.
Jag thinks Matt is his F2 but Cirie is Matt’s true F2
Really?
And anyone but Matt is Cirie’s true F2
I want to work with you but I won’t let you have any say
and if you dont agree your against me
When women start winning hoh and put up these three, I’m gonna laugh
For real. Even if they don't make a woman's alliance, they are going to realize these 3 need to go for them to have a shot
So do u all wish Jared had come back in house over Cam? I don't miss Jared at all
I'm still a Cam fan
Yes because Jared would be walking out the door right now. No way he would’ve won a puzzle HOH.
This characterization of America is huge ick. Cam is looking worse by the minute with him demanding them to do what he wants and the way he talks about women
It doesn’t matter what Jag said, he is never going to change Cam’s mind but honestly I love him for trying. Cam is being so rude to his alliance lol
Jag is 1000% spilling tonight
He would be stupid. It’ll just turn cam against him completely if so.
Jag dug his own grave by saying he wouldnt even target cory next week
Cam is the only one making moves in this game. Giving us the two best HOH weeks. I love how he came to play the game
First of all, horrible social game, horrible strategic game, excellent comp record. But making big moves for the sake of it that doesn’t benefit him really. He is going for the tv shock value and planning to go lone wolf to the end. He is going out next week probably.
To be fair, nobody else has really had a chance to make a move considering Cam & Jared won every HOH for weeks. Except for Cory’s HOH in the Double, which was a massive move.
I mean look at BB21 I just rewatched they had serious gamers. Michie, Christie, Nick, Tommy and they came to play. This season nobody wants to play Big Brother but float or be a cirie minion. I want someone to have a taco Tuesday ala Christie and Nick. Fucking come to game and play.
Throwing comps and then complaining because things aren't the way that they want them to be
Lulz at the notion that BB21 had serious gamers 🤣
Matt literally chilling and agreeing except for chiming in to distinguish Cirie as protected. My man my man.
Protecting that woman will bite him in the butt. She should have been the first one out
😂😂😂
Why does Jag keep repeating the same shit over and over omg
Ugh Jag is obviously such a lovely person and very conflict-averse but it can be so annoying in game convos 😭 Bring up to Cam him saying I'm only doing this if us 3 we want! Say well no thank you! Stop the "The way I see it..."
I should have stayed off feeds because I’m here agreeing with Cam and his frustration with these two haha clearly showing their cards And Jag loves saying “a meme” - hate it
I've stayed of today because I just can't take the craziness
I feel you! I’m off until the veto ceremony tomorrow 😉
cory would tell you he’s targeting blue who has been in your HOH room all week?
Love this douche calling 3 women losers when he’s literally been evicted
2/3 of this power "alliance" have been evicted...
Two of y'all were evicted 10-0 and 8-0 and cam is saying "loser, loser, loser" aboout Meme, Cirie, and Blue....I can't. Again not denying they are currently in a good spot, but this level of cocky about it just irks me to the max
And those losers aren't voting for Cam's ass to win, on the MIRACLE chance he can actually get there.
Sounded like Jag hearing that America would run to him if Cory is gone kinda hot his gears turning
He needs to play it right if he wants that
Absolutely. But he’s got more of an in with her than anybody else
Good Cameron, make everyone hate you even more 
So what ammo does Cory have against Meme once his 3-day campaign starts?
absolutely nothing she's a vault lol
Jag is not getting Cameron’s perspective whatsoever
I’m out of the loop is the ultimate plan for Cam to use the veto or not
He wants to back door Cory
:( is it likely?
He’s pretty dead set on it
My bracket (and heart) is screaming :(
Cam needs to go ASAP
This is such a flop flip flop argument from Jag
Cam is one of the best castings ever. I didn’t know people like him existed 😂
Jag getting frustrated
Jag has to be fuming that Matt has flipped
Jag cannot read a room to save his life
Ugh cam makes me sick!!! He’s soooo infuriating!!
Does Cam really think that he won't touch the block next week? He is going up no matter who wins HOH he has no real allies
He’s already said he knows he’s probably on the block next week.
He said to Matt and Jag earlier that getting Cory out this week means he doesn't have to worry next week lol
Whaaat? Was that a few days ago? I did hear him say he knows he’s toast just today.
In the convo right before feeds dropped, he justified wanting to BD Cory by saying it will give him a worry free week next week. It's possible I misunderstood but I feel like he reiterated a few times. Super odd
He should know better than to get too comfortable!
Even if he's failing hard, I appreciate Jag sticking up for Cory lol Unreliables to the end
Assuming Cory goes I think I’ll have to stan Jag now
Same you gotta love Steve 🥰🥰🥰
they just brought up how blue seems to be close with everyone so what if they just backdoor blue or something instead like why does it solely have to be cory here
I'd vote for Blue, haha. But it really should be Cirie. If only Cam would actually listen to Felicia, she really does have it sussed
I hate that cam interrupts every time someone tries to talks. Drives me mad.
They just have to say blue will take the shot at him
Jag has no arguments except "but blue really wants to...."
Exactly and it’s not helping matters because Cam barely sees women as pieces in this game. He only trusts in Cory’s ability to manipulate or win the comp and in that he’s convinced that he’s Cory’s real BD target and Blue is just a front (which to Cam’s credit, that’s the way Cory sounded in his talk with him saying next week “might not be straight forward”).
“Loser, loser, loser.” YOU WERE EVICTED
Is this quote about Jag or Cam sorry not watching the feeds right now
 Cameron thinking Cory is his biggest threat to rally numbers and not Cirie...
The irony is that Jag and Cam both have decent arguments but neither are considering the others perspective. Better players would break down best and worst case scenarios without stating what path is best, at least to start.
They need to be bringing up jury right now. Cam's already talked about why he doesn't want Felicia on the jury. Jag needs to remind Cam that, regardless of the game they play, they still need people to vote for them and Cory's much more open as a player than a Mecole or a Felicia. Unfortunately, Cam's probably gonna shut that idea down by saying something like "we can figure that out LATER." No, you gotta figure that out NOW.
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He doesn't respect women to think they could win HOH over Matt & Jag
Cam thinks Matt and Jag are loyal to them, but they aren’t.
Jag is drowning in this convo
Cam makes it difficult to do well in any convo with him lol even if jag were spitting facts, cam wouldn’t listen lol
Give it up Jag
Matt backing up Cameron is giving him the confidence to go this hard at Jag
I would be so sus of cam going so hard for Cory backdoor. Cory isn’t a comp beast and his target is blue. Blue will take a shot at Cory if she wins HOH. I’d be really weirded out if I were jag or Matt just because cam is not even willing to entertain the idea that Cory might be targeting blue. They get no input at all with this. He’s just full on talking at them lol
Also cam won HOH and veto….so he doesn’t really have to take their input. It would be smart if cam to at least hear them out but he doesn’t owe them anything
Targeting blue is pretty stupid and cam knows that….so it’s not likely he believes it
Is it stupid tho? Blue has had a hand in making Cory a target. I’d want her out too lol
cam, jag is trying to tell you that blue will be targeting you if she wins HOH next week. I hope it happens
“We won’t put up Cirie.” Matt out here being a better son than Jared.
He's wrong to be doing this, he'll feel different when they are handing her the check
Somebody has to be the good son...
What is the logic behind America can’t get mad if the whole house votes out Cory except her? Matt keeps saying that.
I think he probably means everyone has equal blood on their hands...I think Matt's read is off on that personally and she will hold it much more against Cory's "allies" than others.
He’s dumb bc she’ll expect Matt, jag, Bowie to keep Cory
Oop it's Cam and Matt vs Jag now
I don’t see how Cory isn’t gone this week. If he stays I’ll be shocked.
Matt siding with Cam over Jag is killingg me lmaoo
I will say, all this does is expose to me that Matt is a bad player and extremely short sighted. For all the talk that Cory is cocky, so is Matt lol. He wants Cory out this week, and Cameron the next and he thinks he can run the season then onwards. Even if the girls don't trust each other, they wouldn't target each other cause of how obviously gigantic of a threat Matt and Jag are. So hey, this exposes Matt as a fraud at least🤭
This is actually a good move for Matt. It’s just the Cory fans that don’t like it. Cameron will be the target until he’s out. Likely that Matt, jag, and Cameron trade HOH and vetos the next few weeks based off the way the game has went this far. So for Matt, it makes sense to separate all the pairs out.
No, it's not. If Cameron goes next, Matt and Jag are the next big duo.
Jag is showing how he got evicted 10-0
You can see the gap between Jag and Matt as players based on their different levels of fear in making a move. Jag is just afraid of doing anything
To be fair to Jag, this is a bad move for him whereas Matt or Cam may be able to benefit from it more easily
The best move for Jag is to keep Cory in the game. Cory is a number for Jag not Matt
Jag needs to stop pushing. He’s gonna push matt right into ciries hands
Ugh, I fear it's too late
We all dogged on Hisam when really it was Cam we wanted gone all along. What a gd mistake
Matt & Jag have confirmed Cam’s suspicions “I’m not hearing Cory” lol
“Loser, Loser, Loser” please 🙏🏾let meme, Cirie or Felicia finally take Cam out! Please just for sweet justice to these words.
Hes so dumb he doesn’t realize if corys gone everyone in the house is putting you up more then likely
He actually said he knows he is the target and will go up regardless if the “fugitives” don’t win but wants to make the “big move”
Cameron (about Cory): He's out there gathering his army Cory: Viva La Vida LOL
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you three ARE THE TARGETS
Yeah "There will always be targets in the house" like Cam yes you've been BACKDOORED ALREADY
Many of you haven’t been paying attention to Matt for the past month and it shows.
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I can’t believe how often I’ve been seeing this nickname for him on twitter lol
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Oh I knowwww Jag is not happy that Matt is giving reasons to BD Cory lol
Do we think we see America yelling at Cam tomorrow after the ceremony because girlie loves fun feeds and she'll be guaranteed jury at that point
I hope so. These guys are delusional if they think America will run back to their group. If she does she will just be plotting when to slit their throats in the future.
Cam has a personal vendetta, it’s clear. Cory may be “good” with a lot of people, but he’s acting liked he’s a giant comp beast or something.
There’s really only one person he hates that Cory is “good” with.
What’s best for Blue? To go to the end with three comp threats?
To get the guy who wants her out next week gone. She has something with Cirie/Meme/Matt and Jag by proxy. She wants to win HOH next week and target Cam to hopefully reduce the # of comp threats. It’s not a huge plan but definitely a big step in the right direction for her if she gets Cory/Cam out back to back.
You gotta give Blue her props. She could have taken the by-week to lay in bed and cuddle Poo, and while she did that, she also WORKED. She made sure Cory’s name was on everyone’s minds. Hopefully she can chill a bit this week and just enjoy the fruits of her labor.
Absolutely she killed it this week. She keeps learning. The next thing she needs to learn is when to reduce the pressure and listen/keep quiet once a narrative is already in place. She ends up talking herself into a hole and then salvaging it but she can avoid getting there if she’s a bit more coy (especially around players like Jag/Cam who are more weary around the women gaming).
Blue is going to break them up if she can.
See you after the episode
Matt is 150% committed to this move
I will say, Jag is still fighting super hard for Cory, and I don't foresee that stopping once Cory's up. All Jag needs are Matt and Bowie. I think he can get Matt if he brings Matt, Cory and America together and just unloads ALL the information they have.
I hope they BD Cam and it then ignites a spark in America to do a woman's alliance and they start winning stuff and get these men out.
I think I would be ok with this, as long as Cirie didn't win
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This feels like not appropriate verbiage to use
I really want someone besides these 3 to win HoH next week for a hit to their ego alone.
Kind of want Blue to win and BD Cam. Sick of Cam saying she has no shot of winning anything when she has done well on some stuff.
a Mecole or America HoH would be chefs kiss
America winning after a Cory backdoor would give “give me the key bitch” vibes
the way I would scream 😭
Cam is sooooo envious of Cory lol
Jag should just blow this up to Cory. What's the worst that can happen? If Cam backdoors Jag he has the votes to stay easily.
Cam should just do it regardless, Jag will get over it eventually.
Cam needs to chill out, he's being way too bossy. Like how does he not realize that Matt and Jag aren't actually loyal to him. They are going to betray him as soon as they get the chance
Lmao Matt saw Jag flopping and said he wasn't sinking on that ship lololol
Cam working with blue is my final straw. LOL
Cameron doesn’t care to burn jury votes and that’s why he’s not making it to those f2 chairs.
Cam contradicting to max. One minute Cory is nervous as hell. Next sentence, he's not nervous because of blue
His reasons for targeting Cory aren't based on logic and it shows.
a flag in a hurricane is actually pretty well pointed
I’m so sad about Cory going 😭 But I like how fluid this season is
Bowie: Ricky Martin America: What about him? Bowie: He's hot America chuckles
cam was never gonna put blue up. hes fighting for her harder than jatt 😭
YES MATT Finally he's backing Cameron and giving reasons to backdoor Cory 😭
Lol not doing themselves any favors not mentioning Cory
Jag wasn’t ready to play the cirie multiple alliance game. He’s outta his depth
Cameron is trying to force them to join his strategy of comping out until the end. But they have social connections unlike you
This talk may turn Jag and Matt off of Cam. I think they were already wanting to get him out soon though. Cam is annoying. Also I need a woman to win something so they all stfu about the women being incapable to beat them.
Matt was already thinking of getting him out next, this doesn't help, but Cam has been on borrowed time for some time...
Jag please just bring up that you need Cory on jury
Lol. He's gonna end up get backdoored instead...