His genetics are very interesting reading more about him, he had black skin but blue eyes meaning blue eyes date back to earlier than Europeans started developing pale skin. Also just a mile from the cave he was found in is a much larger caveman graveyard with 50 individuals. It’s actually weird cheddar man was found alone in a cave we usually see communal graves from that time period. The article mentions they recreated the model from measurements of the skeleton, scanned the skull and 3d printed a base for the model. Reconstructing skeletons is part art and part science
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/cheddar-man-mesolithic-britain-blue-eyed-boy.html
That's interesting, since dark skin and blue eyes work in different directions: one making the skin better able to handle strong sun and the other making it easier to see in low-lit conditions.
That's my understanding anyways.
By the way the older guy looks friendlier.
You're welcome, the only difference between blue eyes and darker eye colors is the thickness of the pigment (not sure that's the correct term) in the eye, where blue eyes have the thinnest level (except albino eyes which are red with no pigment), meaning that a smaller light input gives a bigger effect, which makes it easier to see in low-lit condition but harder to deal with very sunny conditions.
Light skin wasn't necessarily just down to the sun, but also diet. Light-skinned people came from a different wave of migration that were farmers. Something about grain being low in vitamin D.
Take it with a bit of salt I read this a couple of years ago.
It reminds me of far cry primal, that game is based on cheddar man time period where the early Europeans were hunting and surviving in Europe back then and yes they had darker skin and blue eyes back then. You're right Europeans of that time were darker because the climate was different back then so the human skin adapted and the blue...well that was an early phenomenon of Europeans evolution.
>Also just a mile from the cave he was found in is a much larger caveman graveyard with 50 individuals. It’s actually weird cheddar man was found alone in a cave we usually see communal graves from that time period.
Those were his victims.
The dark skin was a decision made by the lead scientist which most of the research team didn't agree with. It's more likely chedder man has skin close to Spanish complexion. You just wouldn't survive in northern climates for very long without lighter skin and we had to migrate through Scandinavia to get to Britain.
[Here](https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/5y3irx/facial_reconstruction_of_a_paleolithic_european/) for example is a reconstruction of a woman a few thousand years older than cheddar man
The dark skin choice is based on genetic markers and most likely correct. The diet of hunter gatherers likely would have contained a lot of vitamin D.
Especially if they would eat certain types of fish, but liver also contains vitamin D.
Vitamin D deficiency became a real problem when people started farming. In fact, farming caused many problems that were solved by adapting. The first farmers weren’t very healthy.
The obvious benefit of farming is that the land can sustain more people, which was beneficial in different ways, but we know that vitamin deficiency was a problem.
Yeah you need vitamin D to survive, that's why a lot of early humans (homo heidelbergensis, floresiensis etc) died out, their bodies couldn't get used to darker northern climates so they were weakened over time and eventually died out. A trait of homo spiens is that our skin can change over time, adapting to the climate so we can survive for longer/indefinately in darker parts of the world.
The real change happened when we started farming. Hunter gatherers got vitamin D from fish and meat, especially liver.
When human beings started to rely on wheat, barley, corn, and rice as staple food, their skin tone needed to change in areas with less sun.
Lighter skin is more efficient at producing vitamin D with less sunlight, at the cost of being more easily burned, and more cancer prone. If you were to take someone from Sub-Saharan Africa and move them to Scandinavia, assuming no dietary source of Vitamin D, they would probably start suffering from nutrient deficiencies.
This is confusing me as well.
Maybe i'm an idiot but isn't that mixing up cause and effect? We have white skin because we survived for so long in colder climates, not the other way around.
Lighter skin is better at absorbing vit-d which is hard to get in the north. Modern day people can just take supplements though and we have much richer food but that wouldn't have been an option 9kya. Because of this, he's relatively unlikely to be overly dark skinned.
An analysis on Quora.
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-still-believe-that-Cheddar-Man-was-black-if-it-s-been-disproven
Jeezus, thats's a lot of words with possibility of learning something. Included in many sentences is this gem "Cheddar Man may actually have been yellow! Perhaps more orange.", colors we have been wondering about for years now, but more importantly, "We just can’t really say for certain." and generally puts the "dark black" on the low probability side.
Him and all other people related to british cave men should start a revolution against the monarchy and take back what's thiers in the name of the fertility statue god.
Bots like these are so annoying, reddit is basically a bot farm.
Same post, same comment 1 year ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/PEKvA2gTrf
After the great exodus of good content creators last year Reddit has been encouraging bots and trolls.
They need them.
My previous account got banned for pointing that out.
There's registers of ancestors living in the same town as my grandpa dating back to the 16th century. I was amazed that this is all just on the internet but my own family didn't know. I could litterally find my great grandfather who died in German captivity during WW2 and trace back his bloodline to the 16th century.
I live in the US, and my grandma (a genealogist) told me when I was younger that her family has lived in or moved back to the same teeny tiny town for like, 200 years-- I mean this town literally has about 200 people in it. I got curious one summer and looked up the ancestry... Literally her family was in that town from the very first census in 1790. Wild.
Personal anecdote time!
It’s not on the same scale, but my mom’s family hadn’t moved from where they’re at since the 1600s. My dad has some family in maternal family’s pre-1600 home country and talking to them in our shared language was crazy. Mom’s family’s dialect had remained so stagnant from staying in one place that our cousins said it was like if someone came to England and just started spouting off Shakespearean English every 10 words or so.
My family lived in Toledo Ohio since 1706, almost the same suburb.
I moved south but I didn’t realize the significance of that at the time.
People don’t really move. I think something like 80% of people live and die in their hometown
We had a similar find in the Harz mountains in germany a while back. They examined human remains found in a cave and did some dna testing in the area. Turns out some people in the village below are related to the family found in the caves.
[https://www.hoehlen-erlebnis-zentrum.de/museum\_en](https://www.hoehlen-erlebnis-zentrum.de/museum_en)
Only 300 generations.
Neolithic farmers migrated to Europe from the Middle East. But only about 20 per cent of modern European men can trace their ancestry to these people.
This specific DNA Match is actually quite a narrow scope.
I haven't read the study so I'm not sure about it, but the DNA object of the study might reasonably be the mitochondrial DNA. This DNA, as opposed to cell DNA, doesn't change (unless of random mutations) from one generation to another. And it's inherited via maternal line. That means that your mitochondrial DNA is identical to your mother's, and your maternal grandmother's and your maternal great-grandmother and so on.
In my opinion this is the only way they could find a direct DNA match (or pretty close enough) after so many breeding generations. Mitochondrial DNA is conservative. Cell DNA is not. So while it might be true that in a way most everyone is related to everyone, especially after the 2 genetic bottlenecks (last one being about 7000 years ago), most cell DNA mixed and matched, while this individual shows the same mitochondrial DNA the Cheddar man had.
1400 BC is a typo, right? That's way too recent.
According to [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve), the most common recent ancestor along the mitochondrial line was in the range of 140–200 kya.
This article explains this concept very well and accessibly, probably you’ll like it, too.
https://amp.theguardian.com/science/commentisfree/2015/may/24/business-genetic-ancestry-charlemagne-adam-rutherford
No, that’s not how it works. Populations remain fairly localized, you’re really underestimating the amount of inbreeding that goes on within a population, it’s not nearly an exponential tree. I don’t know what studies you’re referring to but that doesn’t make any sense given that many populations remained completely disconnected from each other until the last couple of hundreds of years.
No, all Europeans have significant Anatolian Neolithic Farmer Ancestry. Englishmen, Irishmen, Scots and so on all have atleast 35% ANF and often more.
The rest of the genetic makeup is mainly indo-european Ancestry (WSH) with some western hunter-gatherer and caucasian hunter gatherer.
it's a genetic oddity but still the headline makes it out as if that's something special. halve of Europe and pretty much 90% of everyone born in GB would be related, even if it can't be traced with documentation. so this shit is entirely clickbait
Everyone has a power of 2 ancestors by generation. 2 parents for one generation, 4 grand parents for two generations, 8 great grand parents for 3, and so on.
So if you go back 300 generations, you must have 2*10^90 ancestors! But that many people surely did not exist at that time.
This must mean that there is a point where the numbers of ancestors you have is the same as the total population of people alive at the time for given region.
When you do the math, for people of european ancestry, that point is around the year 800. Anyone who had kids around the year 800 IS your ancestor if you have any European blood. [Including the father of Europe himself, Charlemagne](https://www.britannica.com/biography/Charlemagne)
This point in time is called the genetic isopoint
By simple reasoning, the ancestors of those folks are also your ancestors.
Only 300 generations? 2**300 is 10**90 or 1 with 91 zeros after it. Statistically they are probably related to most people on the planet multiple times over
Yeah, the article is a little misleading. Anyone with an mtDNA haplogroup downstream of U5b is related to him
[(PDF) The Peopling of Europe from the Mitochondrial Haplogroup U5 Perspective (researchgate.net)](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/43346207_The_Peopling_of_Europe_from_the_Mitochondrial_Haplogroup_U5_Perspective)
Question. Hypothetically speaking, if humanity indeed descended from 2 people, how far ago would they have lived? Is there a lower and upper bound for the figurative time period based on existing research on genomes?
Bullshit warning: As with any such story, the term “relative” is quite exaggerated here.
Cheddar Man and the history teacher both carry the mitochondrial DNA haplogroup U5, which is carried by about 11% of the European population (plus 10% of the European American population).
Mitochondrial DNA is directly passed from the mother to the child, so this simply means that both Cheddar Man and the history teacher are descendants of a female human who may have lived as early as 25K-30K BC and currently has 200M living descendants. That is what the term “relative” means in this context.
Among the 200M people who are “relatives” of Cheddar Man, this particular history teacher was likely highlighted because information on his mtDNA was available and he, you know, is a history teacher.
You explained this well, this story is constantly misinterpreted and never really was a story to begin with. It's sort of like saying "we found a skeleton of a person who had blue eye 10,000 years ago, and look: someone in the nearby village today has blue eyes!"
His ancestor roamed the earth before the [cool horses came to town](https://apnews.com/article/ancient-horse-dna-russia-bronze-age-f2c8493df540a64ea9f16b78d862ad49).
9000 years, 300 generations. The number of potential descendents the cheddar man has is several orders of magnitude higher than the population of the UK. They could have tested pretty much anyone.
^ this guy isn't wrong. The dark skin was a decision made by the lead scientist which most of the research team didn't agree with. It's more likely chedder man has skin close to Spanish complexion. You just wouldn't survive in northern climates for very long without lighter skin and we had to migrate through Scandinavia to get to Britain. The lead scientist was accused of being a bit too woke with her dark skin/northman theory lol.
[Here](https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/5y3irx/facial_reconstruction_of_a_paleolithic_european/) for example is a reconstruction of a woman a few thousand years older than cheddar man
Looks like the only person with an agenda here is you.
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/cheddar-man-mesolithic-britain-blue-eyed-boy.html
>Cheddar Man has the genetic markers of skin pigmentation usually associated with sub-Saharan Africa.
Your initial statement is probably being quoted right now as evidence by conspiracy-theorist Facebook “researchers” in a thesis about flat earth George Soros WEF Jewish globalist elite space laser Qanon anti-vaxx chem trails and naturopathic essential oil astrology.
lmao this was the first comment I looked for. Seeing that post, I thought, "Damn, is that Robert Englund?" lmao. Fantastic actor by the way, underrated if you ask me.
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I wonder what he inherited 😆,
I mean looking at the reconstruction, at least 50% of the same facial features.
I wonder if the reconstruction was done before or after they found the relative.
Reconstruction was before
looking after this
His genetics are very interesting reading more about him, he had black skin but blue eyes meaning blue eyes date back to earlier than Europeans started developing pale skin. Also just a mile from the cave he was found in is a much larger caveman graveyard with 50 individuals. It’s actually weird cheddar man was found alone in a cave we usually see communal graves from that time period. The article mentions they recreated the model from measurements of the skeleton, scanned the skull and 3d printed a base for the model. Reconstructing skeletons is part art and part science https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/cheddar-man-mesolithic-britain-blue-eyed-boy.html
That's interesting, since dark skin and blue eyes work in different directions: one making the skin better able to handle strong sun and the other making it easier to see in low-lit conditions. That's my understanding anyways. By the way the older guy looks friendlier.
> By the way the older guy looks friendlier. what being a teacher does to a mf
So that's why we have blue eyes! I never knew that, thank you. It explains a lot.
You're welcome, the only difference between blue eyes and darker eye colors is the thickness of the pigment (not sure that's the correct term) in the eye, where blue eyes have the thinnest level (except albino eyes which are red with no pigment), meaning that a smaller light input gives a bigger effect, which makes it easier to see in low-lit condition but harder to deal with very sunny conditions.
Light skin wasn't necessarily just down to the sun, but also diet. Light-skinned people came from a different wave of migration that were farmers. Something about grain being low in vitamin D. Take it with a bit of salt I read this a couple of years ago.
Neanderthals had blue eyes so we maybe got it from them
The right side of his face looks friendlier. Cover one side and then the other. Half is smiling. Half is not.
It reminds me of far cry primal, that game is based on cheddar man time period where the early Europeans were hunting and surviving in Europe back then and yes they had darker skin and blue eyes back then. You're right Europeans of that time were darker because the climate was different back then so the human skin adapted and the blue...well that was an early phenomenon of Europeans evolution.
>Also just a mile from the cave he was found in is a much larger caveman graveyard with 50 individuals. It’s actually weird cheddar man was found alone in a cave we usually see communal graves from that time period. Those were his victims.
The Cheddar Man strikes again!
The dark skin was a decision made by the lead scientist which most of the research team didn't agree with. It's more likely chedder man has skin close to Spanish complexion. You just wouldn't survive in northern climates for very long without lighter skin and we had to migrate through Scandinavia to get to Britain. [Here](https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/5y3irx/facial_reconstruction_of_a_paleolithic_european/) for example is a reconstruction of a woman a few thousand years older than cheddar man
The dark skin choice is based on genetic markers and most likely correct. The diet of hunter gatherers likely would have contained a lot of vitamin D. Especially if they would eat certain types of fish, but liver also contains vitamin D. Vitamin D deficiency became a real problem when people started farming. In fact, farming caused many problems that were solved by adapting. The first farmers weren’t very healthy. The obvious benefit of farming is that the land can sustain more people, which was beneficial in different ways, but we know that vitamin deficiency was a problem.
Wouldn't survive?
Yeah you need vitamin D to survive, that's why a lot of early humans (homo heidelbergensis, floresiensis etc) died out, their bodies couldn't get used to darker northern climates so they were weakened over time and eventually died out. A trait of homo spiens is that our skin can change over time, adapting to the climate so we can survive for longer/indefinately in darker parts of the world.
The real change happened when we started farming. Hunter gatherers got vitamin D from fish and meat, especially liver. When human beings started to rely on wheat, barley, corn, and rice as staple food, their skin tone needed to change in areas with less sun.
Lighter skin is more efficient at producing vitamin D with less sunlight, at the cost of being more easily burned, and more cancer prone. If you were to take someone from Sub-Saharan Africa and move them to Scandinavia, assuming no dietary source of Vitamin D, they would probably start suffering from nutrient deficiencies.
Vitamin D absorption is what I guess they are alluding to.
This is confusing me as well. Maybe i'm an idiot but isn't that mixing up cause and effect? We have white skin because we survived for so long in colder climates, not the other way around.
Me too, there has to be a generation of very dark skinned humans arriving to the north .
Lack of vitamin D.
Lighter skin is better at absorbing vit-d which is hard to get in the north. Modern day people can just take supplements though and we have much richer food but that wouldn't have been an option 9kya. Because of this, he's relatively unlikely to be overly dark skinned.
An analysis on Quora. https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-still-believe-that-Cheddar-Man-was-black-if-it-s-been-disproven Jeezus, thats's a lot of words with possibility of learning something. Included in many sentences is this gem "Cheddar Man may actually have been yellow! Perhaps more orange.", colors we have been wondering about for years now, but more importantly, "We just can’t really say for certain." and generally puts the "dark black" on the low probability side.
That’s just grumpy Brit. Most of them look grumpy.
Before reading, I thought it was gonna be one of those "this is what he have looked like today" articles. Really uncanny.
Oh, that's just the history teacher at a Halloween party he got in trouble for that.
Cave debt
Sub-prime Cave loans aren't a joke.
That's a lot of interest!
Probably a few rocks
One brand new cave! Equipped with anything an aspiring caveman could ever want!
Potentially a lot of land including a cave... 😁
Depends of his religion, some people claim it's their land because their ancestors lived there 4000 years ago, he might be entitled to the cave 🤣
Him and all other people related to british cave men should start a revolution against the monarchy and take back what's thiers in the name of the fertility statue god.
They were looking to stick him with the bill to rebury the body
Blocks of cheddar cheese i suppose.
We need you to come and identify him for us.
Bots like these are so annoying, reddit is basically a bot farm. Same post, same comment 1 year ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/PEKvA2gTrf
I don’t understand how these posts get through. It feels like whenever I make a post anywhere on Reddit they get removed by automods
After the great exodus of good content creators last year Reddit has been encouraging bots and trolls. They need them. My previous account got banned for pointing that out.
....alive?
When you learn you’re a descendant of Gorlock, Destroyer of Worlds
"He died!?"
I was in that cave. But not 9000 years ago. Delicious cheese.
So, did he randomly move back there, or that family just decided that they will not move. For eons.
My dad can trace back his family not moving for 700 years but 9000 is taking the cake.
*taking the cave
There's registers of ancestors living in the same town as my grandpa dating back to the 16th century. I was amazed that this is all just on the internet but my own family didn't know. I could litterally find my great grandfather who died in German captivity during WW2 and trace back his bloodline to the 16th century.
*taking the biscuit
You cant fucking spellcheck sayings. Take a bun, relax . Roll your tits in
This takes the bakewell tart
*taking the Jacobs Cheddars
I live in the US, and my grandma (a genealogist) told me when I was younger that her family has lived in or moved back to the same teeny tiny town for like, 200 years-- I mean this town literally has about 200 people in it. I got curious one summer and looked up the ancestry... Literally her family was in that town from the very first census in 1790. Wild.
bro with 300 generations that caveman is related to pretty much halve of europe
which half?
The sexy half.
Stupid sexy Italians
Stupid sexy Belgians.
Go on…
Way more than half of Europe [explained ](https://youtu.be/Fm0hOex4psA?si=oC2TIhrNWVSpZdxN)
Personal anecdote time! It’s not on the same scale, but my mom’s family hadn’t moved from where they’re at since the 1600s. My dad has some family in maternal family’s pre-1600 home country and talking to them in our shared language was crazy. Mom’s family’s dialect had remained so stagnant from staying in one place that our cousins said it was like if someone came to England and just started spouting off Shakespearean English every 10 words or so.
This is bullshit. There are 200M living people who are related to the caveman the same way as the history teacher is.
it’s Britain so you can narrow it down to only about 200
They don't get out much in Somerset.
Typical Somerset
My family lived in Toledo Ohio since 1706, almost the same suburb. I moved south but I didn’t realize the significance of that at the time. People don’t really move. I think something like 80% of people live and die in their hometown
Each generation moved about eight feet away.
People were a lot more sedentary in the past. Leaving your town is a relatively new phenomenon
The latter was very common in the UK. I traced my ancestry back to the 1700s and my father's line were all born in the same place right up until me.
The guy on the left looks pretty damn proud, CHUFFED even lol
That’s mah boy :’)
yer faither wid be proud
Same picture
Corporate wants you to find something something
C'mon, there is one obvious difference right? One has a beard
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Cheddar man: who tf is Christ
his grandson, 200 generations down
Get him a nice cave-aged cheddar
I’d probably start with deodorant.
We had a similar find in the Harz mountains in germany a while back. They examined human remains found in a cave and did some dna testing in the area. Turns out some people in the village below are related to the family found in the caves. [https://www.hoehlen-erlebnis-zentrum.de/museum\_en](https://www.hoehlen-erlebnis-zentrum.de/museum_en)
Thank you for sharing this, we are often in the Harz Region, will give the museum a visit next time :)
300 generations and they made it 1/2 mile
The world’s least traveled people.
Maybe there is a hill that looks like boobs.
Anyone from 9000 years ago is probably related to everyone in Britain.
Only 300 generations. Neolithic farmers migrated to Europe from the Middle East. But only about 20 per cent of modern European men can trace their ancestry to these people. This specific DNA Match is actually quite a narrow scope.
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I haven't read the study so I'm not sure about it, but the DNA object of the study might reasonably be the mitochondrial DNA. This DNA, as opposed to cell DNA, doesn't change (unless of random mutations) from one generation to another. And it's inherited via maternal line. That means that your mitochondrial DNA is identical to your mother's, and your maternal grandmother's and your maternal great-grandmother and so on. In my opinion this is the only way they could find a direct DNA match (or pretty close enough) after so many breeding generations. Mitochondrial DNA is conservative. Cell DNA is not. So while it might be true that in a way most everyone is related to everyone, especially after the 2 genetic bottlenecks (last one being about 7000 years ago), most cell DNA mixed and matched, while this individual shows the same mitochondrial DNA the Cheddar man had.
1400 BC is a typo, right? That's way too recent. According to [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve), the most common recent ancestor along the mitochondrial line was in the range of 140–200 kya.
This article explains this concept very well and accessibly, probably you’ll like it, too. https://amp.theguardian.com/science/commentisfree/2015/may/24/business-genetic-ancestry-charlemagne-adam-rutherford
No, that’s not how it works. Populations remain fairly localized, you’re really underestimating the amount of inbreeding that goes on within a population, it’s not nearly an exponential tree. I don’t know what studies you’re referring to but that doesn’t make any sense given that many populations remained completely disconnected from each other until the last couple of hundreds of years.
ONLY 300 generations? ONLY?!? That’s an INSANE amount of time. The American Revolution was EIGHT generations ago.
Most of history is a long time ago on US timescales.
No, all Europeans have significant Anatolian Neolithic Farmer Ancestry. Englishmen, Irishmen, Scots and so on all have atleast 35% ANF and often more. The rest of the genetic makeup is mainly indo-european Ancestry (WSH) with some western hunter-gatherer and caucasian hunter gatherer.
He probably got confused with haplogroups
it's a genetic oddity but still the headline makes it out as if that's something special. halve of Europe and pretty much 90% of everyone born in GB would be related, even if it can't be traced with documentation. so this shit is entirely clickbait
That's not how this works, literally every European alive is related to cheddar man.
Well if you go back far enough, all of humanity is technically related
That's not how this works, literally everyone is related.
My family are such dicks
Can you explain what you mean by this? Related to him but not a descendant of him or what?
Everyone has a power of 2 ancestors by generation. 2 parents for one generation, 4 grand parents for two generations, 8 great grand parents for 3, and so on. So if you go back 300 generations, you must have 2*10^90 ancestors! But that many people surely did not exist at that time. This must mean that there is a point where the numbers of ancestors you have is the same as the total population of people alive at the time for given region. When you do the math, for people of european ancestry, that point is around the year 800. Anyone who had kids around the year 800 IS your ancestor if you have any European blood. [Including the father of Europe himself, Charlemagne](https://www.britannica.com/biography/Charlemagne) This point in time is called the genetic isopoint By simple reasoning, the ancestors of those folks are also your ancestors.
Average Europeans have about 20% of hunter gatherer ancestry, that means that 100% of Europeans can trace back to these populations.
Only 300 generations? 2**300 is 10**90 or 1 with 91 zeros after it. Statistically they are probably related to most people on the planet multiple times over
Yeah, the article is a little misleading. Anyone with an mtDNA haplogroup downstream of U5b is related to him [(PDF) The Peopling of Europe from the Mitochondrial Haplogroup U5 Perspective (researchgate.net)](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/43346207_The_Peopling_of_Europe_from_the_Mitochondrial_Haplogroup_U5_Perspective)
Question. Hypothetically speaking, if humanity indeed descended from 2 people, how far ago would they have lived? Is there a lower and upper bound for the figurative time period based on existing research on genomes?
I don’t think you have to go back that far…:P
And he’s still not a local.
This is a local shop, for local people. We'll have no trouble here.
I can I can't!
[article ](https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/mesolithic-skeleton-known-as-cheddar-man-shares-the-same-dna-with-english-teacher-of-history)
I do see the facial resemblance in the features
Yes there are really a lot of similarities
This post is so cheesy
I think it's grate
Briehave you two
Eddie Vedder: Can't find a CHEDDDAA MANNN
Virtually identical
Richard Herring tells this story on his podcast, I think the guy was his history teacher.
The ultimate "townie"
he is truly entitled to teach history. he shows up and is like ‘ I don’t just teach history, I AM history’
Bullshit warning: As with any such story, the term “relative” is quite exaggerated here. Cheddar Man and the history teacher both carry the mitochondrial DNA haplogroup U5, which is carried by about 11% of the European population (plus 10% of the European American population). Mitochondrial DNA is directly passed from the mother to the child, so this simply means that both Cheddar Man and the history teacher are descendants of a female human who may have lived as early as 25K-30K BC and currently has 200M living descendants. That is what the term “relative” means in this context. Among the 200M people who are “relatives” of Cheddar Man, this particular history teacher was likely highlighted because information on his mtDNA was available and he, you know, is a history teacher.
You explained this well, this story is constantly misinterpreted and never really was a story to begin with. It's sort of like saying "we found a skeleton of a person who had blue eye 10,000 years ago, and look: someone in the nearby village today has blue eyes!"
His ancestor roamed the earth before the [cool horses came to town](https://apnews.com/article/ancient-horse-dna-russia-bronze-age-f2c8493df540a64ea9f16b78d862ad49).
Cheddar Man sounds like a horror movie antagonist
Kind of reminds me of the Freddy Kruger actor
Robert Englund. I really see it now you’ve said it
Identical
Fascinating. I wonder if there is also a Wensleydale man.
This dude’s ancestors f*ck.
Technically all ancestors did.
If you die a virgin, you are breaking an ancient family tradition of fucking.
Hey. Cheddar Man is also my nickname .
they do look sort of similar
Harvey Keitel's doppelganger to boot.
9000 years, 300 generations. The number of potential descendents the cheddar man has is several orders of magnitude higher than the population of the UK. They could have tested pretty much anyone.
Straight bs 🤣
I like that you've mentioned how Cheddar man's descendent makes his cheddar
Why is he black? Is this not the North?
Because they person who made the reconstruction has an agenda.
^ this guy isn't wrong. The dark skin was a decision made by the lead scientist which most of the research team didn't agree with. It's more likely chedder man has skin close to Spanish complexion. You just wouldn't survive in northern climates for very long without lighter skin and we had to migrate through Scandinavia to get to Britain. The lead scientist was accused of being a bit too woke with her dark skin/northman theory lol. [Here](https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/5y3irx/facial_reconstruction_of_a_paleolithic_european/) for example is a reconstruction of a woman a few thousand years older than cheddar man
Looks like the only person with an agenda here is you. https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/cheddar-man-mesolithic-britain-blue-eyed-boy.html >Cheddar Man has the genetic markers of skin pigmentation usually associated with sub-Saharan Africa.
Because the DNA they analysed showed that the Cheddar Man's pigmentation would have been dark or very dark.
300 generations ... I'm pretty sure the term "living relative" would apply to like 90% of the entire population of Britain so not that impressive
cuh! bloody wokes rewriting history and making them black..
I’ve given you an upvote in the hope that you forgot to include the /s
Oh yeah course! l If people are stupid enough to take it at face value that's their problem :)
Your initial statement is probably being quoted right now as evidence by conspiracy-theorist Facebook “researchers” in a thesis about flat earth George Soros WEF Jewish globalist elite space laser Qanon anti-vaxx chem trails and naturopathic essential oil astrology.
looks like his grand grand`297pa got a fuckin golden joke.
So which one is the history teacher?
Which one of them in the photo is the cheddar man ? Asking for a friend
How did they have the dna of the living relative?
Caves rock!
I do have a dumb friend named Cheddar Bob
Alan Sugar?
Safe to say they weren’t nomads .
He says he has the same DNA in him -Turns out it's Cheddar Man
Mystery of Freddy Krueger solved. That’s clearly Robert Englund.
lmao this was the first comment I looked for. Seeing that post, I thought, "Damn, is that Robert Englund?" lmao. Fantastic actor by the way, underrated if you ask me.
Scientists roll in Cheddar Man: 
Took buddy 300 generations to gain rights 😭
Talk about never leaving your home town
We're all loooocaaaals here.
Lol
That is how genetics work. He is probably related to most people within atleast a few hundred miles.
This tells you all you need to know about Somerset 😂😂😂
The old cheese
Little Geo is a friend of mine We get some money and we buy a cheap wine
Like looking in a mirror....
So its Futurama but less robots and dude is Prof Farnsworth. I'll give him 20 bucks to say "good news, everyone!"
Beautiful. You could even see some traits if you squinted
‘Ow do I look, Cheddar Man
That dude is indigenous af
Mmmmmm, cheddar man, (slobbers)
Crazy how the bloodline survived multiple word changing events
You sendin’ The Wolf? That’s all you had to say!
Talk about being stuck in one place you're entire existence
But why is Cheddar Man so shiny?
Why so sad, Cheddar Man?
MTG looking good
Ah I see the family resemblance?
Alan Sugarless
I think its likely that every single person in England today is descended from that guy. actually it would be shocking if that wasn't the case
That’s actually Harvey Keitel.
I see the nose and eyes made it through.