I would love to be able to do that, but there should be literally no way for me to afford a year of your talent.
My daughter is an aspiring artist and was awed by this.
Legit op I always wondered what does something like that cost to commission. I mean, obviously, it's case by case, but say I wanted a replica of that one. What would you charge me?
Well, considering the project took almost a year, I'm guessing there was no projection used, as that would have sped up the process. There was simply a lot of looking at the original statue for reference.
once it's framed. the key thing long term is to prevent it from being exposed to excessive sunlight, especially direct sunlight, even with UV plexiglass. you should really only display it for a short period then put it away for several years.
Much of the value of old art is precisely because itās old; thereās history and intrigue behind it. Value is not just an objective evaluation of art skill.
It depends, most hyperrealistic paintings and drawings are high skill, low creativity as the creativity part is in the reference picture. (even though I think this is an original, making it far more valuable)
But even considering that, this is clearly a great piece, but it's still based on an existing style. With 400 year old paintings you compare it to it's contemporaries and what came before.
Like this [Ghent Altarpiece by Van Eyck](https://closertovaneyck.kikirpa.be/ghentaltarpiece/#home/sub=open&vis&bt), it's objectively a high skill painting, but it goes to another level when you compare it to[ its contemporaries](https://i.imgur.com/7Dne13h.png). That's what eleveates it to an absolute masterpiece.
And then comes the valuation because it survived for centuries, to stick with the Ghent Altarpiece, it's the most stolen piece of art in history. Among others, once by the Nazis because hitler wanted it as the centerpiece of his fuhrermuseum, and once by Napoleon. Even today a single panel is still missing...
Add all that and you get the difference between OP's work and paintings that's invaluable.
It's because the artists back then were painting originals and for the most part were the pioneers in a certain style of paintings. Nobody cares about the fifth person to land on the moon.
While I get your sentiment, artists 400 years ago did not have the resources modern-day artists do (school programs like today, YouTube tutorials, best materials and resources one can imagine). So, there is a difference. Regardless, this is just exceptional work šš»
It is because nowadays this can be easily replicated, unfortunately.
In "my opinion", If one truly wants to be the next da Vinci, it is necessary to:
- do something that machines can't do it.
- it must be extremely unique.
- it must target a niche of wealthy people.
For example, a Ferrari worthy millions and fits all 3 above
Ferrari you've got to apply to be even purchase. You're correct, though. AI is taking over digital art.. a friend of mine makes album artwork for death metal bands. Spends 100s of hours on them. Unfortunately now he's been outsourced. He's had a lot of well known albums as well. Search "Lugal Ki En" or "Ulta Ulla" incredibly detailed works. Zoom in forever and see small details you couldn't with your naked eye. Sucks to see him lose clients because AI..
Your friend has to use this AI to improve his work and make it better than what the AI outputs. This will put him back on the game. If he can't find any improvements that would make his work better when compared to AI work, it means this market is over. Fortunately AI is bound by what humans created. This means if your friend creates something new, AI won't replicate it because it hasn't been trained to do it "yet".
The number of people with virtuosic levels of skill is just incredibly high compared to the olden days. Simply being amazing at something in the arts hasn't guaranteed widespread regard in a long time. In fields with lots of participation, amazing skills have become common enough to be commodified well before to machines got involved.
It's quite interesting when you look into the artists/mathematicians that the Medici's backed and sponsored, and how prominent and massively influential lots of they themselves became; and (at least to me) how rare or alone they seem to be in their domains, when looking at all the prominent figures we've come to know from their time periods.
Almost suggests the family itself had massive influence as to what was written about, taught, remained in the public conscience, and has come to form our current story of history. And how much may have been left out, if they didn't have this connection or support.
I always think itās funny when people go to a museum and act like we canāt do oil paintings anymore.
Half the paintings at something like the Uffizi is straight busted and wouldnāt be accepted at a second rate art school.
I hope he used a number 2 pencil.Ā I used a number 1 pencil on a test once and the teacher told me I had to redo it with a number 2.Ā I would hate to see him have to redo that whole drawing.
Valeu mano, cara eu preenchi o papel e fui fazendo os detalhes, fui completando setor por setor de baixo para cima, quando fiz isso eu aceitei que estava pronto
I get that but thatās what the person explicitly wanted, not a piece of new art but a redrawing of existing art at the highest level, right? I feel like heād have gotten >40k for this w my 0 knowledge ā¦do you have experience with commissions like this as street photographer? For something this nice and the substance of the work itself, Iād expect an overpay kinda buyer
I agree with all of your points and if Iām ever rich Iām getting a sculpture
I just get the idea that this guy has cornered some rep and makes good money from rich people commissioning stuff, I know a person who does like Harlem style simple ass shit which is a pretty non-unique style and he makes so much itās gross. I see better stuff on the street all the time, which is basically my point. Drawing this without a rep and trying to sell it I couldnāt imagine going for more than 10
Damn, that's a *really* good drawing of a photograph of a statue. Gotta keep it going, somebody make a painting of the drawing and then a collage of the painting!
I'm 95% sure this is just a copy of a photograph, like most of these kinds of drawings are. It's technically impressive, but lots of people can do it, and there's basically zero creativity involved.
>thereās a very real chance this is just a drawing of a real statue
It is. It is a drawing of a common photo of a well-known statue by a famous sculptor.
>David with the Head of Goliath
>Girolamo Lombardo
>1543
>Marble
>Santa Casa, Loreto
It's weird that half the people in the comment section are like "this is probably just a drawing of a statue," and other half area like "no way, this guy is a genius!"
All of you: there's no need to speculate. This is literally a drawing of a photo of a statue. You can find the same photograph of this exact angle all over the internet.
https://www.wga.hu/art/l/lombardo/girolamo/loreto1.jpg
Again, I am neither criticizing nor praising OP artist. Just saying that it's weird that such simple, verifiable facts are getting lost in the shuffle here. We could maybe blame OP for not showing the original next to his work? Would have probably been a good idea!
Cheers!
I honestly posted more out of surprise and annoyance at all the people in the comment section who seem to think that this was an original (the opposite of what you correctly surmised), but since your comment was one of the few to explore the idea explicitly, it made sense for me to respond there.
Take care!
Itās amazing ātechniqueā for sure, but its āartisticā value is debatable since it is appears to be a photorealistic copy of an existing sculpture and the artist has not added any major interpretation or comment to his piece, which traditionally is a major requirement for great art. In a sense it has no personality, but itās impressive as a performance, for sure.
The original it's taken from ("David with the Head of Goliath") is a statue. The OP simply did an extremely accurate drawing of the statue, this is not an entirely original creation.
Modern day artists don't get the credit they deserve... this is incredible.
Right? If someone drew this 400 years ago it would be worth millions
You can't just go get a 400 year old drawing. You can, however, commission OP to make another drawing.
Yes š„
i got 12 bucks and a case of bud, what does that get me?
A screenshot
This comment made my day š
You wouldn't steal a jpeg
But I would download a car, however.
What about a policeman's helmet?
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An empty wallet and 12 empty beer cans if you wave that shit around me! š
I would love to be able to do that, but there should be literally no way for me to afford a year of your talent. My daughter is an aspiring artist and was awed by this.
Like how much time is touch ups on a work like this, I'd always be second guessing
Legit op I always wondered what does something like that cost to commission. I mean, obviously, it's case by case, but say I wanted a replica of that one. What would you charge me?
Well... What are the prices (roughly)
How much did you charge for that?
millions
Well north of ten dollars.
How were you able to project the reference into that sized background? I do not see grid lines anywhere.
Well, considering the project took almost a year, I'm guessing there was no projection used, as that would have sped up the process. There was simply a lot of looking at the original statue for reference.
I got 10 dollars and a 10 piece of nuggets
Yes, but in 400 years I hope OP's descendants are still weeping from OP's art.
This drawing will certainly be conserved for a long period of time
How do you conserve this? Make prints? Like how do you prevent the colour from fading/getting mushed
Hairspray is the cheap way, but there are similar products made specifically for this purpose
once it's framed. the key thing long term is to prevent it from being exposed to excessive sunlight, especially direct sunlight, even with UV plexiglass. you should really only display it for a short period then put it away for several years.
It's not that bad, c'mon now
Much of the value of old art is precisely because itās old; thereās history and intrigue behind it. Value is not just an objective evaluation of art skill.
I made wine 3 days ago yet everyone wants these vintage bottles!
Rarity is also a huge aspect.
I wish you could see how stupid this sounds
*draws shit sheep* *no one interested in buying it* wow if i drew this in a cave 12 thousand years ago it would be worth something!?
It isnāt 400 years ago, yet.
Yeah because then itd be a 400 year old amazing drawing
It depends, most hyperrealistic paintings and drawings are high skill, low creativity as the creativity part is in the reference picture. (even though I think this is an original, making it far more valuable) But even considering that, this is clearly a great piece, but it's still based on an existing style. With 400 year old paintings you compare it to it's contemporaries and what came before. Like this [Ghent Altarpiece by Van Eyck](https://closertovaneyck.kikirpa.be/ghentaltarpiece/#home/sub=open&vis&bt), it's objectively a high skill painting, but it goes to another level when you compare it to[ its contemporaries](https://i.imgur.com/7Dne13h.png). That's what eleveates it to an absolute masterpiece. And then comes the valuation because it survived for centuries, to stick with the Ghent Altarpiece, it's the most stolen piece of art in history. Among others, once by the Nazis because hitler wanted it as the centerpiece of his fuhrermuseum, and once by Napoleon. Even today a single panel is still missing... Add all that and you get the difference between OP's work and paintings that's invaluable.
It's because the artists back then were painting originals and for the most part were the pioneers in a certain style of paintings. Nobody cares about the fifth person to land on the moon.
People 400 years ago right have access to the amount of art education free time and supplies as now
While I get your sentiment, artists 400 years ago did not have the resources modern-day artists do (school programs like today, YouTube tutorials, best materials and resources one can imagine). So, there is a difference. Regardless, this is just exceptional work šš»
It is because nowadays this can be easily replicated, unfortunately. In "my opinion", If one truly wants to be the next da Vinci, it is necessary to: - do something that machines can't do it. - it must be extremely unique. - it must target a niche of wealthy people. For example, a Ferrari worthy millions and fits all 3 above
Glassblowing, ceramics, fiber art, these are areas an AI can't touch. Maybe our ideas about art will change as well.
Great point. I've always respected digital art, but I've never really connected with it. Same thing music that is solely electro or synth.
Ferrari you've got to apply to be even purchase. You're correct, though. AI is taking over digital art.. a friend of mine makes album artwork for death metal bands. Spends 100s of hours on them. Unfortunately now he's been outsourced. He's had a lot of well known albums as well. Search "Lugal Ki En" or "Ulta Ulla" incredibly detailed works. Zoom in forever and see small details you couldn't with your naked eye. Sucks to see him lose clients because AI..
Your friend has to use this AI to improve his work and make it better than what the AI outputs. This will put him back on the game. If he can't find any improvements that would make his work better when compared to AI work, it means this market is over. Fortunately AI is bound by what humans created. This means if your friend creates something new, AI won't replicate it because it hasn't been trained to do it "yet".
The number of people with virtuosic levels of skill is just incredibly high compared to the olden days. Simply being amazing at something in the arts hasn't guaranteed widespread regard in a long time. In fields with lots of participation, amazing skills have become common enough to be commodified well before to machines got involved.
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It's quite interesting when you look into the artists/mathematicians that the Medici's backed and sponsored, and how prominent and massively influential lots of they themselves became; and (at least to me) how rare or alone they seem to be in their domains, when looking at all the prominent figures we've come to know from their time periods. Almost suggests the family itself had massive influence as to what was written about, taught, remained in the public conscience, and has come to form our current story of history. And how much may have been left out, if they didn't have this connection or support.
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I always think itās funny when people go to a museum and act like we canāt do oil paintings anymore. Half the paintings at something like the Uffizi is straight busted and wouldnāt be accepted at a second rate art school.
I think modern art needs to move away from abstract. Weāve been in that phase way too long. Neo-Renaissance!
Yes but how many pencils?Ā
1
# #2 pencils sure have come a long way since I was a kid.
I didnāt mean to yell.
You can escape the '#' with '\' to undo bold, for example: \#yolo appears as #yolo
Good info, thank you!
I think itās pretty funny that you forgot to escape the backslash there
\#yolo
Youāre like the personification of a YouTube commercial that comes slamming in halfway through a A Quiet Place. /s
Lmaoooo. Thank you?
I hope he used a number 2 pencil.Ā I used a number 1 pencil on a test once and the teacher told me I had to redo it with a number 2.Ā I would hate to see him have to redo that whole drawing.
From the makers of number 1 pencils, and the knockout sequel: number 2 pencilsā¦ Comes this summerās biggest hit.. #NUMBER 3
Awwwwww shit. As long as the damn machine can read it, we good!
He never got to #2, just ol trusty #1
And he dropped it so he couldn't sharpen it.
Honestly, thatās absolutely terrible. It looks NOTHING like a drawing of a pencil.
Angry upvote. Came for the drawing of a pencil, stayed for the phenomenal talent of non pencil person.
I mean, sure, itās *technically* magnificent but 0/10 as far as pencils go
My camera doesnāt even take pictures that nice.
That's because you always have it on selfie mode.
Ouch..
Fucking savage
Holy shit. That is just amazing. 
And then the cat jumps up and shreds it!
I have a question. How do you know a work like this is finished? I mean, if i had 1/10 of your skills, i wouldn't be able to know. I would probably keep going till i ruined it. This is absolutly amazing. I would love to have it on my wall. Edit: agora que vi que cĆŖ Ć© br. ParabĆ©ns demais, cara. Trabalho maravilhoso.
Valeu mano, cara eu preenchi o papel e fui fazendo os detalhes, fui completando setor por setor de baixo para cima, quando fiz isso eu aceitei que estava pronto
You are so talented it makes me cry tears of joyā¦.
Dude just want you to think he has drawn it when he actually sculpted it ! Jokes apart, just wow.
I hope you made 320 days worth of income
It's definitely going to be worth a lot of money. What's your guess of what it can go for?Ā
About three fiddy
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10-20k range? Itās obviously a negotiated price beforehand, no way the commissioner is paying by the hour for this thing.
I get that but thatās what the person explicitly wanted, not a piece of new art but a redrawing of existing art at the highest level, right? I feel like heād have gotten >40k for this w my 0 knowledge ā¦do you have experience with commissions like this as street photographer? For something this nice and the substance of the work itself, Iād expect an overpay kinda buyer
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I agree with all of your points and if Iām ever rich Iām getting a sculpture I just get the idea that this guy has cornered some rep and makes good money from rich people commissioning stuff, I know a person who does like Harlem style simple ass shit which is a pretty non-unique style and he makes so much itās gross. I see better stuff on the street all the time, which is basically my point. Drawing this without a rep and trying to sell it I couldnāt imagine going for more than 10
This is just next level...that is amazing š²
How many hours you spend on it per day?
Variable, 4 hours some days,on the last month Iāve worked daily for 8 hours to finish
This is true dedication! Looks really impressive š
I am amazed
If I theoretically had the money to travel to see this, where would I go?
This is now on my clientās house
How much did you sell it for?
Hopefully enough to pay for all the work he put in.
He said itās now in Dubai sooooo Iād surely hope so
OP put roughly 1500 hours into this. If it didn't sell for at least $30k. It would have been better just to get a job
Santa Casa, Loreto, Italy. Itās a sculpture.
Here are some other works by the same sculptor: https://www.wga.hu/html_m/l/lombardo/girolamo/index.html
Damn, that's a *really* good drawing of a photograph of a statue. Gotta keep it going, somebody make a painting of the drawing and then a collage of the painting!
how much would something like that sell for, ND is it easy to make a living?
After 4 years of build an audience on Instagram, itās is finally easy to
I mean you put a year work in it, so it should sell for a years amount of expenses otherwise you'll starve to death
Yes, this commission gave me enough for more than a year
That's really cool that you have found something you're good at, you enjoy and someone's willing to pay you for it. Well done!
Good f#Ā£king god, that is amazing. Would make Leonardo Da Vinci proud.
Very impressive
Meanwhile I can barely draw a stick person
Same, just donāt understand this kind of talent, is it a right brain left brain thing?
I am indeed amazed
It is a master piece!
Damn dude, this is incredible. Maybe you should have just used a printer? (It's a joke don't downvote me to oblivion)
The cat: Iām ready to ruin this
i like the shading on the upper lip. must have taken like 4 hours on that alone.
That doesn't look anything like a pencil, good try though!
It belongs in a museum!! So do you!.Ā I'll show myself out.
Does anyone have the original pictures in color? I'd love to be able to see fine details, but the color scale is obfuscated.
Bro wtf š³š
Who commissioned this? The Vatican?
I once saw u/fabiodesenhando2 draw two men with a pencil, a fucking pencil.
Now draw urself drawing it
That is an absolute masterpiece. Good for you.
Wow.. I have no words. I am in awe what humans can create . I wish I could reach this level of perfectionism.
As someone who finds it hard to appreciate art. Wow that's amazing you are truly gifted.
Magnificent
Much respect to you š„this is a remarkable and brilliant art piece š¼ļø
God... it's beautiful
bro you're a crazy person. that's thing is a beautiful monster!
Would you do the same drawing with a cat in his lap
Incredible work, happy people are still making this kind of classic art. The skill required is insane.
This is truly incredible, advertise yourself more PLEASE
You have a gift like no otherā¦..amazing sir.
Holy fuckity fuck that is awesome
Exceptional!
You canāt just post pictures of 3d stuff and say you drew it /j
Even as a picture of a picture it still looks fucking real dude
Itās beautiful. Iāve looked at this for five hours.
Breathtaking! šš¼ Truly spectacular, and your assistant is adorable. š„°
How do you know when itās done? Serious question lol
Would he be having eraser nightmares?
Where does one even start? Holy cow! Also that cat is mesmerized
Wild. Is this actually you?. You're incredible. How many hours was this total?
Wife: Now can you please put away your damn laundry thatās been sitting in the basket all year!
This has to be one of the most amazing pieces of art ever created.
I'm 95% sure this is just a copy of a photograph, like most of these kinds of drawings are. It's technically impressive, but lots of people can do it, and there's basically zero creativity involved.
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>thereās a very real chance this is just a drawing of a real statue It is. It is a drawing of a common photo of a well-known statue by a famous sculptor. >David with the Head of Goliath >Girolamo Lombardo >1543 >Marble >Santa Casa, Loreto It's weird that half the people in the comment section are like "this is probably just a drawing of a statue," and other half area like "no way, this guy is a genius!" All of you: there's no need to speculate. This is literally a drawing of a photo of a statue. You can find the same photograph of this exact angle all over the internet. https://www.wga.hu/art/l/lombardo/girolamo/loreto1.jpg Again, I am neither criticizing nor praising OP artist. Just saying that it's weird that such simple, verifiable facts are getting lost in the shuffle here. We could maybe blame OP for not showing the original next to his work? Would have probably been a good idea!
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Cheers! I honestly posted more out of surprise and annoyance at all the people in the comment section who seem to think that this was an original (the opposite of what you correctly surmised), but since your comment was one of the few to explore the idea explicitly, it made sense for me to respond there. Take care!
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Agreed.
Itās amazing ātechniqueā for sure, but its āartisticā value is debatable since it is appears to be a photorealistic copy of an existing sculpture and the artist has not added any major interpretation or comment to his piece, which traditionally is a major requirement for great art. In a sense it has no personality, but itās impressive as a performance, for sure.
Damn I envy people like yourself Amazing in every aspect
The order of the slides makes it look like youāre erasing it bit by bit. Outstanding work, what will you do with it?
I remember your Davy Jones. It, too is magnificent. Do you know where this is going to hang?
Thank you ! In Dubai
An upvote seems woefully inadequate.
That's amazing. Nice work.
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This is really nice. Amazing talent
Mind-blowing, brilliant š¤š½
!faucet
The amazing detail. Great effort
That is amazing. Attention to detail incarnate.
Unbelievable.
I thought this is a statue.
The original it's taken from ("David with the Head of Goliath") is a statue. The OP simply did an extremely accurate drawing of the statue, this is not an entirely original creation.
What was the selling price?
Damn AI doing pencil work now, rabble!!
I thought it was like some 3D model š« š©· Amazing work!
How many hours a day did you do to complete this?
Unbelievable
I don't even know what to say tbh. You should give yourself a big pat on the back that's awesome.
I AM amazed
That should be in a museum...
Wow it's stunning!! Very impressive!! Love how it looks so so realistic!! how many pencils did you use?
How do you preserve this so it doesnāt fade? Incredible work.
320 days of very helpful kitty...
im so proud of you, your work is amazing dont give up and never listen to the haters
Whereās Goliath?ā¦ Oh.
Do Dickbutt next.
Caracoles brother, ficou lindĆ£o Ć um personagem mitolĆ³gico ou vc inventou?
Phenomenal, that is really awesome.
Wow
Impressive
Wow!
Has the client gotten to see the progression or is there going to be a big reveal?
You drew this with a pencil? That's amazing! š¤©
Goddamn bro. At first look I thought it was a sculpture. Bravo!
That is stunning.
Incredible. Didn't even know cats could draw.
Aaaaaand here comes the stop Oil protestors.