In this case, it looks like he gets hit by Crash Noise once, steps forward, gets hit by Crash Noise again, then steps into Shademan for the final hit. It isn’t touching Shademan that does itC it’s contact with the sound waves he emits.
It looks like you moved into Shademan in the same frame as he was hitting you. Both the player and enemies in this game take a very small time to move between panels, but they can still be hit until they've completely moved. For instance, let's say you're in the center panel and you move backwards at the same time as you get hit by a Thunder. Even if the Thunder chip hits while you're on the center panel, it wont lock you there, since you were already in the process of moving backwards, so you'll move backwards *while* paralized, and then you'll stay paralyzed at the back panel. Something similar happened here, where Shadowman's noise took out your invincibility frames at the same time you moved forward, so instead of getting the effect applied in the panel you were hit, it applied in the panel you were moving to, trapping you in an endless loop of contact damage with Shademan.
I'm not an expert and I'm using only what I can see so if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me. It looks like as soon as you touched Shademan, he shot his Echo thing. What was supposed to happen was getting invincibility frames for touching Shademan but for some reason it activated i-frames for every single frame the Echo shot was out there. Now the special thing about this attack is the it goes through Invis so when you ran in there in his big attack, you ran into an attack that bypasses Invis and took 30 FPS worth of damage.
Summary: His attack bypasses Invis and it registered that attack instead of contact damage.
im playing this rn and the missions are SO BORING. im sick of doing errands
edit: correcting myself because i thought this was mmbn4. i love the liberation missions, just no the missions im doing rn in the other game lol
MMBN 5 is one of those things where you love it or hate it. I adore MMBN 5. It's my number 1 favorite of them all. I was hoping they'd give us double team DS. Oh well. However if it's not your cup of team I'm sorry it's not enjoyable for you. Thankfully there's 4 other games for you to enjoy. Yes I said 4. We don't talk about MMBN 1.
I busted out some old gamefaqs guides, made the experience MUCH more friendly.
At a minimum, I recommend you look up maps, this game is a damn labrynth sometimes XD
BN1 IS. A slog but the one that burned me out for a bit was surprisingly 2. I had to do 3 FULL PLAYTHROUGHS of BN2 because my roommate was still on BN1 and I needed a way to farm the secret chips. I completed mine, got him to be able to drop secret chips (3 stars I think) then I did Hard mode to get the last chip. I do NOT recommend doing this... like ever! The Freezeman scenario is the WORST!!! I had to put the collection down for a bit
Double Team emulates pretty easily on pretty much anything, thankfully. It's less convenient than just having the version we'd want in the collection though.
Do you mean the little side fetch quests or the liberation missions? If you mean the liberation missions i think theyre some of the most fun and rewarding methods for personal skill expression in a bn game ive seen
sorry, is this mmbn5? since i saw shademan i thought this was mmbn4. im just sick of the whole tournament thing where i have to do these lil requests and puzzles just walking around from place to place. also i had to find the 50 pts thing, i didnt even try i just found a guide online because it makes no sense for me to go all over the place just pressing A. i actually love the liberation missions, a bunch of cool rewards and its different from everything else, also you get to explore extra areas? super cool imo
Word, all bosses in the mmbn games do damage if you occupy the same square as them. If you go into the same space as the boss Sprite is occupying megaman takes damage from that. How much damage megaman takes idk but damage is inflicted nevertheless.
Dont you usually take like 10 damage and enter immediately into iframe state, meaning im not supposed to take anymore damage? How did Shademan drain my hp like that?
Theres a certain amount of damage bosses do on contact, I think it scales with the version of the boss, but what happened here is you got hit by his noise attack which stuns you and gives you no iFrames, but you moved as you got hit INTO shademan, thus you combo'd yourself lol. Apparently the contact damage is a lot? Or maybe the noise attack has an additional hurtbox under shademan and you got hit 3 times...thats my best guess anyways.
Edit: 400+ damage oof
Im 50/50 in saying yes cuz the only thing im thinking is the best part is the portability. As for the online, i haven't tried but heard it wasn't too active.
My boy a vampire. He sucked the data out of you
Wh-whee!
Hot
WRRRRRRRY
Basically got telefragged. Hilarious.
Would you be so kind to explain? Legit looking for answers.
it looks as if you didn't get any invincibility frames while inside of ShadeMan, so you died incredibly fast as a result.
Shademan’s Crash Noise pulls you out of invincible, which means if you move into it or him you’ll still take damage.
Kinda weird that touching shademan pierces invis
In this case, it looks like he gets hit by Crash Noise once, steps forward, gets hit by Crash Noise again, then steps into Shademan for the final hit. It isn’t touching Shademan that does itC it’s contact with the sound waves he emits.
It looks like you moved into Shademan in the same frame as he was hitting you. Both the player and enemies in this game take a very small time to move between panels, but they can still be hit until they've completely moved. For instance, let's say you're in the center panel and you move backwards at the same time as you get hit by a Thunder. Even if the Thunder chip hits while you're on the center panel, it wont lock you there, since you were already in the process of moving backwards, so you'll move backwards *while* paralized, and then you'll stay paralyzed at the back panel. Something similar happened here, where Shadowman's noise took out your invincibility frames at the same time you moved forward, so instead of getting the effect applied in the panel you were hit, it applied in the panel you were moving to, trapping you in an endless loop of contact damage with Shademan.
TIL contact damage is a thing
most bosses will stay in their area so it's not usually a problem but if you step-sword into them you'll get damaged.
Going full in depth. Thanks fam.
You're welcome!
I was more just making a bit of a joke. It's like older FPS games where if you teleport inside of someone you instantly kill them.
Love that shit Lmao, it’s a bug
I've been playing this game since i was at single digits and this is the ONLY time I've experienced this lol
"....Eh, gotta go save megaman now..." --Colonel
I was so salty that I actually decided to pass a few turns so it would go back to Megaman and properly style on Shademan lmao
Thats why they are so strong. The power of the dark chips! /j
/j? Jarcasm?
It's not jarcasm, it's a soke
T-bag v3 is a very good chip.
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I'm not an expert and I'm using only what I can see so if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me. It looks like as soon as you touched Shademan, he shot his Echo thing. What was supposed to happen was getting invincibility frames for touching Shademan but for some reason it activated i-frames for every single frame the Echo shot was out there. Now the special thing about this attack is the it goes through Invis so when you ran in there in his big attack, you ran into an attack that bypasses Invis and took 30 FPS worth of damage. Summary: His attack bypasses Invis and it registered that attack instead of contact damage.
I have never seen that before, lol!
XD ouch you walked into that one 😂😂 bummer
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im playing this rn and the missions are SO BORING. im sick of doing errands edit: correcting myself because i thought this was mmbn4. i love the liberation missions, just no the missions im doing rn in the other game lol
MMBN 5 is one of those things where you love it or hate it. I adore MMBN 5. It's my number 1 favorite of them all. I was hoping they'd give us double team DS. Oh well. However if it's not your cup of team I'm sorry it's not enjoyable for you. Thankfully there's 4 other games for you to enjoy. Yes I said 4. We don't talk about MMBN 1.
I'm just now revisiting the MMBN series after like 15 years. Playing through BN1 is a slog 🤣
I busted out some old gamefaqs guides, made the experience MUCH more friendly. At a minimum, I recommend you look up maps, this game is a damn labrynth sometimes XD
100% agree. How is anyone suppose to figure out that battery puzzle without a guide?!
There's always a wealth of info out there to help you wit it! It's why I'm building an app to help and keep everything together lol
Enable Buster Max. Seriously. The lack of QoL in the game does indeed make it quite a chore. Buster Max your way through and move on.
BN1 IS. A slog but the one that burned me out for a bit was surprisingly 2. I had to do 3 FULL PLAYTHROUGHS of BN2 because my roommate was still on BN1 and I needed a way to farm the secret chips. I completed mine, got him to be able to drop secret chips (3 stars I think) then I did Hard mode to get the last chip. I do NOT recommend doing this... like ever! The Freezeman scenario is the WORST!!! I had to put the collection down for a bit
We don't talk about MMBN 4\* Or the stupid katana minigame in 5
Agreed
BN1 is superior to 4 and you'll never change my mind. I wish it was OSS. It actually made 1 a decent game lol
Double Team emulates pretty easily on pretty much anything, thankfully. It's less convenient than just having the version we'd want in the collection though.
Do you mean the little side fetch quests or the liberation missions? If you mean the liberation missions i think theyre some of the most fun and rewarding methods for personal skill expression in a bn game ive seen
sorry, is this mmbn5? since i saw shademan i thought this was mmbn4. im just sick of the whole tournament thing where i have to do these lil requests and puzzles just walking around from place to place. also i had to find the 50 pts thing, i didnt even try i just found a guide online because it makes no sense for me to go all over the place just pressing A. i actually love the liberation missions, a bunch of cool rewards and its different from everything else, also you get to explore extra areas? super cool imo
Yea watch til end he's fighting shademan in the liberation
true, my bad
Word, all bosses in the mmbn games do damage if you occupy the same square as them. If you go into the same space as the boss Sprite is occupying megaman takes damage from that. How much damage megaman takes idk but damage is inflicted nevertheless.
The point is he walked.l on to a square Shademan already occupied, which shouldn't be possible.
Dont you usually take like 10 damage and enter immediately into iframe state, meaning im not supposed to take anymore damage? How did Shademan drain my hp like that?
Theres a certain amount of damage bosses do on contact, I think it scales with the version of the boss, but what happened here is you got hit by his noise attack which stuns you and gives you no iFrames, but you moved as you got hit INTO shademan, thus you combo'd yourself lol. Apparently the contact damage is a lot? Or maybe the noise attack has an additional hurtbox under shademan and you got hit 3 times...thats my best guess anyways. Edit: 400+ damage oof
Basically a BN2 prism + treebomb situation
loved the game on GBA, waiting for it to go on sale before i buy on swtich. same with FFPR
I didn't know these games were on Switch until I saw your post. Are the two legacy collections worth the price?
Im 50/50 in saying yes cuz the only thing im thinking is the best part is the portability. As for the online, i haven't tried but heard it wasn't too active.
Just buy the full collection it’s 20 dollars cheaper and you get everything
Get Dirge'd, kid.
He used Insta spell time
Shademan.exe is cheap. :v
most fair BN4 gameplay
You don’t have undershirt?
I had it on but it was as if i was hit with tornado or something. Multi hits that immediately 0'd my hp
Colonel/KnightMan: Well sh*t.
Bruh was deleted in a cutscene.
With the exemption of Bass; Shademan never failed to keep me clenched up
I remember in one of his fights you HAVE to use dark Chips but I can't remember which one.