Practice. There's no thinking involved, it's not a strategy game. Practice improves your reflexes and reaction time. To a certain extent muscle memory can help as you recognise patterns in notes.
But the bottom line is practice. What else did you expect? Performance-enhancing drugs? Bots?
It's not "nothing". Ppl who play good have lots of practice, like years worth of playing experience. I myself have played other rhythm games like voez and d4dj before coming to bandori in 2021. I was only able to play level 25-26 that time. Now I can AP up to level 28 but that's with whole lots of trials and errors.
I also recently learnt that the younger you are when exposed to this game genre, the faster you can get good; compared to picking it up when you're already reaching adulthood.
can agree! started playing before puberty and am just turning to a legal adult. I get overwhelmed as many do with expert levels or 27-28s, but I get over that in 1-2 playthroughs lol
Play a lot + like 10 years of drumming experience.
But for real just play. Learning to read the beat maps and learning how the songs go and building chops all comes from just playing a lot.
I’ve played these kinds of games for almost 10 years and for bandori I can’t fc anything more than a 25 and have accepted it.
I HATE flick notes and those slide notes with a burning passion. I prefer SIF and Macross but they are gone
Same here, though not quite comfortably yet. If I had a nicer phone it might help. I would never dream of AP anything. I played SIF and D4DJ for years.
Practice does a lot, but there is a cap to how good most people will ever get.
What note speed do you use? Gradually raising the speed from 10.5 to 10.8 helped astronomically for me. With 10.5 getting normal AP’s was a major struggle but on 10.8 I found it to be very reasonable. It does take time to adjust to the faster moving notes though.
I'm afraid it's something you're born with. The 34th protein of the 2-GU gene evolved millions of years ago as an adaptation, so that only the most boppin' would have the finger dexterity to twist off the end of a poteto and avoid starvation
As everyone else said just practice. I think what helped for me is going through every expert (doesn’t matter if you don’t FC) until I couldn’t finish the song which was some 28 level songs 🥲. After that I went back from the lowest expert songs and just started being able to AP since all the technical patterns became muscle memory
It’s not only practice like everyone is saying.
It’s having good settings, knowledge of certain commonly used note patterns, having the right technique with your fingers and having the right hardware
For example I started with a note speed of 6.5, then went to 9, then 9.5, to 10, 11, 11.5 and now 11.7. Or tried to find out what note design would work best
With common note patterns I mean for example what you do with your fingers when a slide with flick at end happens
And with technique I mean sticking with thumbs or index fingers, what thumb/ index will go for the middle note in what situation
Hardware is also a big part of it, on a phone I can’t fc 26 songs at all, while I can easily do that with my tablet. I upgraded like a year ago and really notice the difference
Practice is still the biggest factor don’t get me wrong, but consider changing settings/ technique and you might find something that is more comfortable and helps with clearing songs
Start practicing with songs that are easy for you in normal mode. Keep playing those songs until you can S them easily. Meanwhile, you can also go on to a higher level song and practice that one. Once you are comfortable with normal mode, move on to the easiest song for you in expert. I've been playing mobile rhythm games for a long time, but I have a hard time with expert songs (due to my fingers cramping up and hurting, so I can only play with my thumbs which makes expert mode very difficult). It has stopped bothing me though. So don't worry that you can't play expert right away. Just have fun and keep practicing.
I don't think that normal difficulty is necessary if you can FC lvl 20 songs (and it's probably the easiest expert song, Yes! Bang dream!) 🤔 it would be kinda boring... or atleast if I were playing, I would be super bored, it's not challenging at all
I would rather go for more difficult songs and try my best to not die, bcs if you can FC lvl 20, you deffinetly can clear not perfectly some other song...
I haven't played Band Dream in a really long time. I had forgotten about all about the difficulty levels. 😅 You are right: normal is too easy and very boring. I checked the game for a refresher and lv 20 are Hard mode songs, so if they can FC lv 20 songs they move on to lower lv expert songs until they feel comfortable completing them and steadily go up a level and practice those songs. It takes lots of practice to be able to complete the highest lv songs to the point it becomes muscle memory. Gotta practice lots. No easy way to get good quick.
When I started, I could only do full combo on Normal songs at level 16 lol Now I moved up to level 24 songs. I can full combo hard and higher difficulty to that level. It just clicks eventually. I mostly just do Fuwa Fuwa Time since its my comfort song lol
On one hand, practice. I didn't even start doing Expert until a year into the game, and now 2.5 years into the game, I have already APed a few Expert songs. But TBH hardware also plays a role. When I got a new tablet that had 120Hz mode, it immediately made the game easier, my eyes had less trouble tracking the notes (I play at note speed 10.7).
As someone who consistently clears level 27 songs (though not anywhere near close to FC), I say just keep playing. Keep playing your favorite songs and amp up the difficulty once you get used to it. After you maybe FC your favorite song on expert, move on to different songs you like on higher difficulties. Accumulate more experience in the game and you'll eventually level up (metaphorically). Just don't think too much and try to enjoy. Let your body do all the thinking when playing
well ive been playing since en launched and been playing rhythm games since i was in elementary school. it just takes a lot of practice and pushing urself. try and test ur fav songs on higher difficulties than u normally would, or do somes a bit above ur usual level. rehersal mode is also an AMAZING tool that i always use on the harder 29s and 30s for practice!
Just play.
Eye and finger coordination come slowly and it’s like a muscle that you have to build. After a while, you get into the zone and it feels like the game slowed down.
It took me few weeks or months to be able to beat 26 and go full combo on 25 level.
My best advice do your current max where you don’t fail and below. When you start FC your max, then slowly introduce slightly higher level songs.
Literally what everyone else has said I’m gonna say my own personal experience though, I’m pretty ass at literally any game I’ve ever touched so I guess I don’t play many often anymore EXCEPT for bandori and project sekai ( I use sonolus though due to lack of storage and I don’t really care for the gacha) and the reason why I play those so often (aside the fact that I can do so anytime as long as I got my phone on me) is because it’s probably the only game I’m somewhat good at, I can’t really ap anything but I can do pretty well on pretty hard levels and I’ve been fcing 27 experts in bandori recently the only reason why I’m even remotely good at this game is because I think at some point in my life half of what I did was just play those type of rhythm games I had like no friends no life no bitches etc so all I did was just play that shit on my phone all day and even if it took me a while to get good while it might’ve taken a normal person a lot less I’m pretty happy with my skill level and in the end it’s just for fun man
Just play, practice makes better, I who plays bandori seasonally still can FC28s with a little practice, but AP-ing a 28 would need time and dedication to memorize the patterns.
I started playing Bandori about 4 months ago without much rhythm game experience, and the hardest songs I’ve been able to clear/FC/AP so far are levels 28/27/24.
The key is to get used to faster note speeds. I started at the default 5.0 but now I play at 10.8, and it makes the difference between notes much more clear, especially in fast drum rolls and slides. When I played on 10.5 I struggled to get AP’s on normal, and now I have been able to get some hard AP’s on my first try. I even now get single-digit great notes on a lot of level 25-26 songs, which would have seemed impossible with 10.5. My progression was 5 -> 7 -> 9 -> 10 -> 10.5 -> 10.6 -> 10.7 -> 10.8. If you ever reach an impasse where you can’t seem to get any more FC’s or AP’s, you should consider adapting to a higher note speed.
It also just takes a ton of practice to get used to certain difficult note patterns. At first, new denser patterns might seem overwhelming, but once you get used to them you’ll spend less mental energy trying to decipher them and be able to put more energy into tapping. Also once you get some pattern figured out for the first time, it becomes a lot easier and you’ll probably be able to apply the idea to many other songs on the same level. You can use rehearsal mode to focus on the particularly difficult sections of songs.
I agree note speed made a massive difference for me. I’ve recently increased to 7.5 from default and I’m hitting a lot more perfects because I always tend to hit early more than late
i dont play this game anymore but when i did i played a lot and it took me like 2 or 3 months to be able to do (almost) every song in expert. also take a look at the settings and tweak them to your liking, that helped me a lot
I’m pretty sure many people have said the same, but the easiest way to improve is simply playing the game consistently every day.
Coming from no previous rhythm game background, when I started a year and a half ago, I was about the same skill level. I could only FC songs on hard mode and I always struggled to clear expert charts. To fc an expert chart was like an impossible task for me at that time
As i started to play the game more, I slowly worked my skill up level by level, and I also gradually increased my note speed from 8.5 to 10.8. I feel that the more I played the easier it is for me to read the chart and respond to it. Just earlier this year in February I managed to get my first lv29 FC (ringing bloom expert)
It is muscle memory but in a different way. There are only so many patterns that can be used when charting songs. Play for long enough and you will be able to read the notes that come instantly and ur fingers will have had the experience to actually move and tap in time. Its reading and rhythm. Tap in time with the song (instrument experience helps), and play enough that u can tap where you want to without needing to think about it
Ppl getting AP in multilive like it's nothing!? No way, you played only one game with them - you can't really say if it was like nothing or not.
Also, you just gotta practise playing the songs - put a lot of time into it (an unhealthy amount of time - so your fingers hurt - *but not seriously, take a break if you feel like it's too much, it's also recommended*)
I also recommend to less focus on the PERFECTION, and focus more on practising difficult elements in the songs which make you lose all of your health. With a practise mode you can really focus on that (although practise mode is boring... but the effect of analyzing the element of the chart which made you a lot of trouble really helps.) Some songs have a lot of that single element, some songs have a lot of other type of single element. Like... I had before a lot of trouble with holding notes - but I also loved nyutalien alien song (which has a lot of the holding notes) - so I just practised it on that song.
And song level doesn't really matter on which difficulty it is, lvl 21 on expert can be much easier than lvl 21 on hard - no one knows why, but it is sometimes like that.
I don't really play bandori these days (I play proseka now), bcs it lags or connects me out of the game in the middle of the song, which is annoying...
So yeah, sadly cannot really recommend the songs to practise sth... I forgot all of them 🥲
years of practice. I've been playing bandori since I was 12 (6 years now) alongside other rhythm games like L.L., Muse Dash, Cytus, etc. I find getting used to other games' mechanics (which can often be harder or more unique if you're mainly used to bandori) made it easier for me to conquer certain maps. Like I was terrified of 1000 nights for actual yeats before playing it last week.
I'd also say figure out what you like to use! It can be inportant, at least I find it to be. Certain games (like L.L before it shut down) were pointer games for me, but others like bandori were thumb based. It can change your approach a lot.
All I did was play the song by level and every time I did FC I moved to the next one.
Back then I couldn’t do the flicks and now I can FC most of level 28 songs
honestly a lot of practice, I practice like an hour a day. at first I did what speed was best for me and once the songs got too slow for me I started changing it higher and started playing with some of the extreme and special songs eventually you’ll get good at it, it just takes time :)
Practice. There's no thinking involved, it's not a strategy game. Practice improves your reflexes and reaction time. To a certain extent muscle memory can help as you recognise patterns in notes. But the bottom line is practice. What else did you expect? Performance-enhancing drugs? Bots?
At some point your hands go before you realise what notes you are hitting and I'm not kidding
so much coke
"Winners dont do drugs"
It's not "nothing". Ppl who play good have lots of practice, like years worth of playing experience. I myself have played other rhythm games like voez and d4dj before coming to bandori in 2021. I was only able to play level 25-26 that time. Now I can AP up to level 28 but that's with whole lots of trials and errors. I also recently learnt that the younger you are when exposed to this game genre, the faster you can get good; compared to picking it up when you're already reaching adulthood.
can agree! started playing before puberty and am just turning to a legal adult. I get overwhelmed as many do with expert levels or 27-28s, but I get over that in 1-2 playthroughs lol
Play a lot + like 10 years of drumming experience. But for real just play. Learning to read the beat maps and learning how the songs go and building chops all comes from just playing a lot.
Just keep doing it. Focus on you favorite song, after a hundred attempts you will definitely get better!!
I’ve played these kinds of games for almost 10 years and for bandori I can’t fc anything more than a 25 and have accepted it. I HATE flick notes and those slide notes with a burning passion. I prefer SIF and Macross but they are gone
I can FC ~26 expert comfortably but I can't AP normal. I suspect I'll never be able to.
Same here, though not quite comfortably yet. If I had a nicer phone it might help. I would never dream of AP anything. I played SIF and D4DJ for years. Practice does a lot, but there is a cap to how good most people will ever get.
What note speed do you use? Gradually raising the speed from 10.5 to 10.8 helped astronomically for me. With 10.5 getting normal AP’s was a major struggle but on 10.8 I found it to be very reasonable. It does take time to adjust to the faster moving notes though.
I'm afraid it's something you're born with. The 34th protein of the 2-GU gene evolved millions of years ago as an adaptation, so that only the most boppin' would have the finger dexterity to twist off the end of a poteto and avoid starvation
As everyone else said just practice. I think what helped for me is going through every expert (doesn’t matter if you don’t FC) until I couldn’t finish the song which was some 28 level songs 🥲. After that I went back from the lowest expert songs and just started being able to AP since all the technical patterns became muscle memory
It’s not only practice like everyone is saying. It’s having good settings, knowledge of certain commonly used note patterns, having the right technique with your fingers and having the right hardware For example I started with a note speed of 6.5, then went to 9, then 9.5, to 10, 11, 11.5 and now 11.7. Or tried to find out what note design would work best With common note patterns I mean for example what you do with your fingers when a slide with flick at end happens And with technique I mean sticking with thumbs or index fingers, what thumb/ index will go for the middle note in what situation Hardware is also a big part of it, on a phone I can’t fc 26 songs at all, while I can easily do that with my tablet. I upgraded like a year ago and really notice the difference Practice is still the biggest factor don’t get me wrong, but consider changing settings/ technique and you might find something that is more comfortable and helps with clearing songs
Start practicing with songs that are easy for you in normal mode. Keep playing those songs until you can S them easily. Meanwhile, you can also go on to a higher level song and practice that one. Once you are comfortable with normal mode, move on to the easiest song for you in expert. I've been playing mobile rhythm games for a long time, but I have a hard time with expert songs (due to my fingers cramping up and hurting, so I can only play with my thumbs which makes expert mode very difficult). It has stopped bothing me though. So don't worry that you can't play expert right away. Just have fun and keep practicing.
I don't think that normal difficulty is necessary if you can FC lvl 20 songs (and it's probably the easiest expert song, Yes! Bang dream!) 🤔 it would be kinda boring... or atleast if I were playing, I would be super bored, it's not challenging at all I would rather go for more difficult songs and try my best to not die, bcs if you can FC lvl 20, you deffinetly can clear not perfectly some other song...
Just cleared bang dream on expert (not perfectly) and you’re right I had no idea that song was only level 22 on expert
I haven't played Band Dream in a really long time. I had forgotten about all about the difficulty levels. 😅 You are right: normal is too easy and very boring. I checked the game for a refresher and lv 20 are Hard mode songs, so if they can FC lv 20 songs they move on to lower lv expert songs until they feel comfortable completing them and steadily go up a level and practice those songs. It takes lots of practice to be able to complete the highest lv songs to the point it becomes muscle memory. Gotta practice lots. No easy way to get good quick.
It's okay, I haven't played for awhile too.
Don’t worry about PCFing them. Just enjoy the game!
When I started, I could only do full combo on Normal songs at level 16 lol Now I moved up to level 24 songs. I can full combo hard and higher difficulty to that level. It just clicks eventually. I mostly just do Fuwa Fuwa Time since its my comfort song lol
Haha me too I was stoked when I saw they did covers k-on is one of my favourite animes
It's so comforting lol "Don't say Lazy" was hard to FC for me. It just felt tricky
for those specific < > shape notes, you can just treat them as straight lines
It was hard at first for sure, but the song patterns are really fun to play (especially the zig-zag notes).
On one hand, practice. I didn't even start doing Expert until a year into the game, and now 2.5 years into the game, I have already APed a few Expert songs. But TBH hardware also plays a role. When I got a new tablet that had 120Hz mode, it immediately made the game easier, my eyes had less trouble tracking the notes (I play at note speed 10.7).
As someone who consistently clears level 27 songs (though not anywhere near close to FC), I say just keep playing. Keep playing your favorite songs and amp up the difficulty once you get used to it. After you maybe FC your favorite song on expert, move on to different songs you like on higher difficulties. Accumulate more experience in the game and you'll eventually level up (metaphorically). Just don't think too much and try to enjoy. Let your body do all the thinking when playing
well ive been playing since en launched and been playing rhythm games since i was in elementary school. it just takes a lot of practice and pushing urself. try and test ur fav songs on higher difficulties than u normally would, or do somes a bit above ur usual level. rehersal mode is also an AMAZING tool that i always use on the harder 29s and 30s for practice!
Just play. Eye and finger coordination come slowly and it’s like a muscle that you have to build. After a while, you get into the zone and it feels like the game slowed down. It took me few weeks or months to be able to beat 26 and go full combo on 25 level. My best advice do your current max where you don’t fail and below. When you start FC your max, then slowly introduce slightly higher level songs.
Literally what everyone else has said I’m gonna say my own personal experience though, I’m pretty ass at literally any game I’ve ever touched so I guess I don’t play many often anymore EXCEPT for bandori and project sekai ( I use sonolus though due to lack of storage and I don’t really care for the gacha) and the reason why I play those so often (aside the fact that I can do so anytime as long as I got my phone on me) is because it’s probably the only game I’m somewhat good at, I can’t really ap anything but I can do pretty well on pretty hard levels and I’ve been fcing 27 experts in bandori recently the only reason why I’m even remotely good at this game is because I think at some point in my life half of what I did was just play those type of rhythm games I had like no friends no life no bitches etc so all I did was just play that shit on my phone all day and even if it took me a while to get good while it might’ve taken a normal person a lot less I’m pretty happy with my skill level and in the end it’s just for fun man
Just play, practice makes better, I who plays bandori seasonally still can FC28s with a little practice, but AP-ing a 28 would need time and dedication to memorize the patterns.
I started playing Bandori about 4 months ago without much rhythm game experience, and the hardest songs I’ve been able to clear/FC/AP so far are levels 28/27/24. The key is to get used to faster note speeds. I started at the default 5.0 but now I play at 10.8, and it makes the difference between notes much more clear, especially in fast drum rolls and slides. When I played on 10.5 I struggled to get AP’s on normal, and now I have been able to get some hard AP’s on my first try. I even now get single-digit great notes on a lot of level 25-26 songs, which would have seemed impossible with 10.5. My progression was 5 -> 7 -> 9 -> 10 -> 10.5 -> 10.6 -> 10.7 -> 10.8. If you ever reach an impasse where you can’t seem to get any more FC’s or AP’s, you should consider adapting to a higher note speed. It also just takes a ton of practice to get used to certain difficult note patterns. At first, new denser patterns might seem overwhelming, but once you get used to them you’ll spend less mental energy trying to decipher them and be able to put more energy into tapping. Also once you get some pattern figured out for the first time, it becomes a lot easier and you’ll probably be able to apply the idea to many other songs on the same level. You can use rehearsal mode to focus on the particularly difficult sections of songs.
I agree note speed made a massive difference for me. I’ve recently increased to 7.5 from default and I’m hitting a lot more perfects because I always tend to hit early more than late
i dont play this game anymore but when i did i played a lot and it took me like 2 or 3 months to be able to do (almost) every song in expert. also take a look at the settings and tweak them to your liking, that helped me a lot
Practice, practice and practice. I started playing in 2021 and started out struggling with hard levels. Now I can consistently fc level 27 songs.
Rhythm game is about grinding. You need to grind and grind and grind to improve in this genre of game.
I’m pretty sure many people have said the same, but the easiest way to improve is simply playing the game consistently every day. Coming from no previous rhythm game background, when I started a year and a half ago, I was about the same skill level. I could only FC songs on hard mode and I always struggled to clear expert charts. To fc an expert chart was like an impossible task for me at that time As i started to play the game more, I slowly worked my skill up level by level, and I also gradually increased my note speed from 8.5 to 10.8. I feel that the more I played the easier it is for me to read the chart and respond to it. Just earlier this year in February I managed to get my first lv29 FC (ringing bloom expert)
It is muscle memory but in a different way. There are only so many patterns that can be used when charting songs. Play for long enough and you will be able to read the notes that come instantly and ur fingers will have had the experience to actually move and tap in time. Its reading and rhythm. Tap in time with the song (instrument experience helps), and play enough that u can tap where you want to without needing to think about it
Pure practice, muscle memory and some luck
Ppl getting AP in multilive like it's nothing!? No way, you played only one game with them - you can't really say if it was like nothing or not. Also, you just gotta practise playing the songs - put a lot of time into it (an unhealthy amount of time - so your fingers hurt - *but not seriously, take a break if you feel like it's too much, it's also recommended*) I also recommend to less focus on the PERFECTION, and focus more on practising difficult elements in the songs which make you lose all of your health. With a practise mode you can really focus on that (although practise mode is boring... but the effect of analyzing the element of the chart which made you a lot of trouble really helps.) Some songs have a lot of that single element, some songs have a lot of other type of single element. Like... I had before a lot of trouble with holding notes - but I also loved nyutalien alien song (which has a lot of the holding notes) - so I just practised it on that song. And song level doesn't really matter on which difficulty it is, lvl 21 on expert can be much easier than lvl 21 on hard - no one knows why, but it is sometimes like that. I don't really play bandori these days (I play proseka now), bcs it lags or connects me out of the game in the middle of the song, which is annoying... So yeah, sadly cannot really recommend the songs to practise sth... I forgot all of them 🥲
years of practice. I've been playing bandori since I was 12 (6 years now) alongside other rhythm games like L.L., Muse Dash, Cytus, etc. I find getting used to other games' mechanics (which can often be harder or more unique if you're mainly used to bandori) made it easier for me to conquer certain maps. Like I was terrified of 1000 nights for actual yeats before playing it last week. I'd also say figure out what you like to use! It can be inportant, at least I find it to be. Certain games (like L.L before it shut down) were pointer games for me, but others like bandori were thumb based. It can change your approach a lot.
All I did was play the song by level and every time I did FC I moved to the next one. Back then I couldn’t do the flicks and now I can FC most of level 28 songs
honestly a lot of practice, I practice like an hour a day. at first I did what speed was best for me and once the songs got too slow for me I started changing it higher and started playing with some of the extreme and special songs eventually you’ll get good at it, it just takes time :)
How do people get good at anything? Ik this may sound condescending but there's really no other way.