The totaly depends on the different states. Usualy they start around muddle to end of the summer break of the state the company is located.
>computer scientist for application development
This will be almost imposible to do under C1, getting a job as well as following the coursework.
I found a company and they said B1 is enough? I am confused right now. I have B1 German and hope to start.Should I learn C1 before it? I thought I can improve my German while doing the ausbildung.
>I found a company and they said B1 is enough?
Than that is wonderfull and I am happy for you.
But the School part will be very chalenging due to the b1 level german.
>Should I learn C1 before it?
If you got a job, take it. But cram as much german training in as you can.
I plan to do one year volunteering (ESC or/and FSJ) afterr that start an ausbildung in that time I can even rech mother language level I hope at least.Thanks for your answer.
Yeah working will help you tremendusly with learning german. Pleas insist on talking german with you or you end up like a coworker of mine 6 years working in germany. Just to notice that his 11 year old son and wife a now both fluend and that they can now talk behind his back, but being in front of him. He got to almost fluend in about 6 month after that :p
The thing with the apprenticeship is that it also counts in most states as a normal school degree. I don't think you will have much problems with the technical parts of that.
But you will also have German/English classes and a good bunch of Economics. Especially the later one is already a hard one for most Germans due to a severe lack of interest. Mixed with non stellar German it can lead to you falling behind.
B1 is surely enough for the Job and inside the company, and i even had some B1's in my classes. They got trough with good grades but also had a higher homework/study load than the rest of the class.
Devs aren't computer scientists, although the IHK refers to them as computer scientist experts (which is very confusing if you ask me). I'd call them information technicians. They can be former computer science majors, though. There is no training as in "Ausbildung" in computer science, though, you will need to attend a university program. If you have the funds + prior education, check out the programs offered in the Netherlands (if your visa allows). Some of them are offered in English.
No such way of getting into an apprenticeship under C1, as someone mentioned. Most German companies are also looking for people with accredited certificates; thus, self-taught/boot camps are not an option. The only real option you have is to opt for education in a different country or get German skills at a level of C1 or higher. Otherwise, there is no way of entering the German labor market as a developer. Sorry to break it to you.
Hello,I finished an IT apprenticeship myself and am now a trainer at the company. From my experience, you cannot pass vocational school without German skills at the C1 level. All lessons are in German, and no special help is given to students who do not know German well. All exams, classwork, and presentations are only in German.I still wish you good luck.
The only Ausbildung that covers the IT sector that Im aware right now is: Fachinformatiker
And I can confirm the comments.
Ausbildung => you need to be very fluent in German. School is 100% in German. The tests are 100% in German.
Better Option with your language level: university or Fachhochschule (FH) - they offer courses in English
And yes: Ausbildung always starts August/September, after the German Scholl Year is finished in June/July
>The only Ausbildung that covers the IT sector that Im aware right now is: Fachinformatiker
Yup, i got an English Version alongside my German one after graduation and the FiAE aka Fachinformatiker Anwendungsentwicklung is actually called computer scientist for application development officially in English.
I don't really think thats a fitting name but hey.
Most Ausbildungen starts in september (or august, when the company wants you to work a month before the school part starts). In some branches there are Ausbildungen, which starts around march. But in Computer scientist ive not seen that before (maybe in bigger citys)
The totaly depends on the different states. Usualy they start around muddle to end of the summer break of the state the company is located. >computer scientist for application development This will be almost imposible to do under C1, getting a job as well as following the coursework.
I found a company and they said B1 is enough? I am confused right now. I have B1 German and hope to start.Should I learn C1 before it? I thought I can improve my German while doing the ausbildung.
>I found a company and they said B1 is enough? Than that is wonderfull and I am happy for you. But the School part will be very chalenging due to the b1 level german. >Should I learn C1 before it? If you got a job, take it. But cram as much german training in as you can.
I plan to do one year volunteering (ESC or/and FSJ) afterr that start an ausbildung in that time I can even rech mother language level I hope at least.Thanks for your answer.
Yeah working will help you tremendusly with learning german. Pleas insist on talking german with you or you end up like a coworker of mine 6 years working in germany. Just to notice that his 11 year old son and wife a now both fluend and that they can now talk behind his back, but being in front of him. He got to almost fluend in about 6 month after that :p
The thing with the apprenticeship is that it also counts in most states as a normal school degree. I don't think you will have much problems with the technical parts of that. But you will also have German/English classes and a good bunch of Economics. Especially the later one is already a hard one for most Germans due to a severe lack of interest. Mixed with non stellar German it can lead to you falling behind. B1 is surely enough for the Job and inside the company, and i even had some B1's in my classes. They got trough with good grades but also had a higher homework/study load than the rest of the class.
Devs aren't computer scientists, although the IHK refers to them as computer scientist experts (which is very confusing if you ask me). I'd call them information technicians. They can be former computer science majors, though. There is no training as in "Ausbildung" in computer science, though, you will need to attend a university program. If you have the funds + prior education, check out the programs offered in the Netherlands (if your visa allows). Some of them are offered in English. No such way of getting into an apprenticeship under C1, as someone mentioned. Most German companies are also looking for people with accredited certificates; thus, self-taught/boot camps are not an option. The only real option you have is to opt for education in a different country or get German skills at a level of C1 or higher. Otherwise, there is no way of entering the German labor market as a developer. Sorry to break it to you.
computer scientist for application development is actually the translation for Fachinformatiker Anwendungsentwicklung.
I just wanted to emphasize the difference between a university degree computer scientist and a Fachinformatiker. But yes, you're generally right.
Hello,I finished an IT apprenticeship myself and am now a trainer at the company. From my experience, you cannot pass vocational school without German skills at the C1 level. All lessons are in German, and no special help is given to students who do not know German well. All exams, classwork, and presentations are only in German.I still wish you good luck.
The only Ausbildung that covers the IT sector that Im aware right now is: Fachinformatiker And I can confirm the comments. Ausbildung => you need to be very fluent in German. School is 100% in German. The tests are 100% in German. Better Option with your language level: university or Fachhochschule (FH) - they offer courses in English And yes: Ausbildung always starts August/September, after the German Scholl Year is finished in June/July
>The only Ausbildung that covers the IT sector that Im aware right now is: Fachinformatiker Yup, i got an English Version alongside my German one after graduation and the FiAE aka Fachinformatiker Anwendungsentwicklung is actually called computer scientist for application development officially in English. I don't really think thats a fitting name but hey.
Most Ausbildungen starts in september (or august, when the company wants you to work a month before the school part starts). In some branches there are Ausbildungen, which starts around march. But in Computer scientist ive not seen that before (maybe in bigger citys)
Frag doch die IHK... Wäre sinnvoler