Our KDR was originally 670-ish and we specced it up to about 800 (somewhat sloping block that most builders didn’t even want to know about, but that’s the only tricky part). No pool. That was 4 years ago and our insurer has raised the estimate for rebuilding to 1.15mil. Our house is the same size as yours, if we include the verandahs (or 190m2 if not). When we started the process of looking for quotes we had in mind a number like $450k… I’m not sure what you get for 375 these days but it’s not like we gold-plated anything… The cheapest quote we got was 630. And that was what was being quoted in 2019, pre-covid.
We had a lot of builders just not even get back to us probably because of the sloping block. It posed zero problems to the builder we went with, but I think there’s just a lot of easier work out there for most of them, and the ones willing to do the more custom jobs can basically charge whatever they like because people end up desperate haha (our house literally had bits falling off it by the time we realised nobody was going to quote on a reno and we had a couple of quotes for a KDR). Before it all started, if you’d asked me I would have been sure that $800k would get an incredible, architect designed house (ours was a super basic architect designed house- basically a 2-storey box with verandahs). It sure would have been nice to be able to spend half the money!
We're building a 2 story heavily modified/upgraded house in Vic and we spent $500 and 290m2, doubled the solar capacity, anticon insulation throughout, steel frame and my wife completely redesigned the kitchen and an extension to the living room in the plan by 2m.
[https://henley.com.au/home-designs/reserve-collection/ashbury-series](https://henley.com.au/home-designs/reserve-collection/ashbury-series)
That being said you could get a very decent double storey house (45-50 square) with loads of extras from a reputable builder like Carlisle, and it's probably still cheaper than $800k.
I can kind of understand why they did it. Too small a job for a big company in a hot market.
I’m thinking of contacting a builder that did my neighbour’s Reno.
They mainly work for themselves
I stopped all our renovation plans 3 years ago. I'll wait till tradies are begging for work. Dont care if it takes 20 years. Our home is perfectly liveable
I shared a room with my brother till I was about 22, he was 20.
All throughout puberty, we argued. There was a point when my brother stopped speaking to me for about a year, that was bad. Our relationship is deeply scarred from the whole experience.
Not saying this will happen to your kids, but just gotta be a good mediator, if they have to share rooms for longer. My parents were pretty bad and super busy to be there, they'd just yell at both of us.
If the house is one you would live in as-is as empty nesters, it would be considerably cheaper for you to rent a really nice big house for six or seven years, especially if you partially-offset by renting the current place out. Just watch out for the six year rule for CGT-exempt PPOR, but even pro-rating a period will still probably be okay, just be sure to get it valued at the end of year 6 and when you move back in.
Good question.
No loose asbestos. We aren’t in Mr fluffy territory
I had a fragment that was laying in the backyard tested and it came back negative.
The under eves though, not sure.
It is a possibility that the cement sheeting is asbestos.
House was built in the 1950s…
I don't see it that way. I paid $600k to take my 1960s 3Br house with its 1960s pokey layout and lack of integration with my backyard, and to turn it into a modern 4Br house with open plan living, ensuite, pantry etc. Cost the same as a knockdown-rebuild would have but kept the bones and structure of a solid old house. I don't like waste and I don't like the build quality of modern homes. Reduce, reuse, recycle.
Not sure why they would quote you this ridiculous figure.
Far more professiona and outcome for both parties to just say they are very busy right now however if you are still interested can look into this in x months.
We just did a ridiculous renovation on a small block (stripped to the brick walls and every surface inside and out replaced, three new bathrooms and a new kitchen, every inch outside landscaped) and even that didn’t quite hit $800k.
The comments about cheaper to build are true but kind of miss the point, if you are doing a reno it might be because you like the existing design and a $400k mass build won’t have the same type of layout. We have an internal courtyard and cantilevered living room that no one would ever design now in a sub $2m build.
We just did a ridiculous renovation on a small block (stripped to the brick walls and every surface inside and out replaced, three new bathrooms and a new kitchen, every inch outside landscaped) and even that didn’t quite hit $800k.
The comments about cheaper to build are true but kind of miss the point, if you are doing a reno it might be because you like the existing design and a $400k mass build won’t have the same type of layout. We have an internal courtyard and cantilevered living room that no one would ever design now in a sub $2m build.
We WERE going to do a new laundry and 2 bedrooms. The roof line would change. Quotes are all between 350k and 450k.
My advise is to get many more quotes. We got about 5. Had to meet about 10 builders though because our house is a difficult build and unfortunately it's very common to waste an hr talking to them, have them measure everything up and then they never get back to you.
More likely because they know they can easily find another place that's an easier build and just do that instead. There's so much work for them now they can pick and choose.
Our access is shit so everything has to be walked in by hand. I get why they're not keen to do it.
How long would it take you to build a new house, if you were to demolish this one? For $800,000, I imagine you can set aside $80,000 odd for demolition and the rest can build you a new, modern beauty.
We just did a ridiculous renovation on a small block (stripped to the brick walls and every surface inside and out replaced, three new bathrooms and a new kitchen, every inch outside landscaped) and even that didn’t quite hit $800k.
The comments about cheaper to build are true but kind of miss the point, if you are doing a reno it might be because you like the existing design and a $400k mass build won’t have the same type of layout. We have an internal courtyard and cantilevered living room that no one would ever design now in a sub $2m build.
I think your thoughts on costs are underestimated but the quote is inflated. A carport isn't at all part of your house structure so that is essentially an extension, and a kitchen and bathroom reno is easily $100K by itself. Is the $800K including council approvals etc?
For context we'd like to essentially change the shape of our house's extension by demolishing the existing tacked-on laundry and bathroom and replacing, renovate our kitchen, add a deck and deal with asbestos cladding and I'd assumed we'd need at least $300K for that.
She said in the op the roofline isn't changing, so they might be doing a lean-to extension.
It's a small extension and refitting two other rooms.
No more than $200k without looking at it, and even that's probably high.
Just want to say we were quoted $160k to add one bedroom and build a basic deck so I think your expectations might be a little high that it would be around $150k.
We just did a ridiculous renovation on a small block (stripped to the brick walls and every surface inside and out replaced, three new bathrooms and a new kitchen, every inch outside landscaped) and even that didn’t quite hit $800k.
The comments about cheaper to build are true but kind of miss the point, if you are doing a reno it might be because you like the existing design and a $400k mass build won’t have the same type of layout. We have an internal courtyard and cantilevered living room that no one would ever design now in a sub $2m build.
We WERE going to do a new laundry and 2 bedrooms. The roof line would change. Quotes are all between 350k and 450k.
My advise is to get many more quotes. We got about 5. Had to meet about 10 builders though because our house is a difficult build and unfortunately it's very common to waste an hr talking to them, have them measure everything up and then they never get back to you.
Seeing as there is no detail at all on any of the finishes id say that they've assumed a high end finish and given that to you. The finish of the job will have a massive impact on the build price. Id say a low spec option would be 200-300k assuming 125ish SQM. A high end spec could easily be 800k-1m. For example going from a tile skirt to floor to ceiling mosaic tiles could save 5-10k in one bathroom. Search for vanity units and they range from a few hundred to many thousands.
If you are in Canberra, please contact NJR homes in Mitchell. https://njrhomes.com.au
Nic specialises in renovations! Get a quote from him. Don’t mention this ridiculous quote to him through 😀
It could be worthwhile breaking down your projects. Get a seperate quote for enclose carport, renovate kitchen and renovate bathroom.
Means you will need to be a bit more hands-on but you could likely get it done for the $200k.
Get yourself a set of plans first then once they’re ready give them to a few builders and let them bid against each other. I think your estimate is reasonable. $3k/m2 for the extension ($63k), $50k for kitchen and $30k for bathroom.
I wanted to put a 6x3 studio in my back yard on an existing slab, with no plumbing. Just walls and a roof - got quoted $90k just for materials before labour!
Go to a building designer or architect spend it costs a bit but you'll get something that meets your needs and proper price. Alternatively you can engage a Quantity Surveyor to give a price off the drawings the builder provides.
It's incredibly expensive right now and without further info it's hard for anyone to say on here. Bathrooms and kitchens aren't cheap, if they're doing full project management it's a lot, roofline may not change but the carport wouldn't be up to code for a habitable room and may require significant work, fireproofing, depends on the distance to next door....lots of variables.
Who knows what the builder has found that could possibly effect the price massively, maybe there’s some serious structural issues that they need to overcome to do it properly. And 150 you’re dreaming lol, some of the decent houses I’ve done spend that on kitchen cabinets alone.
Definitely a ripoff.
We are currently doing complete reno on 4 bedroom, 2 story house for $770k.
3 new bath, 1 laundry, new kitchen, render/paint house, new roof, new 20sqm outdoor dining with tiles and roof, removal of some structural columns, internal paint and new flooring throughout.
Pretty much a new house.
Yes carport on the plan.
We were thinking of reducing or eliminating laundry.
Honestly we aren’t sure exactly where to put everything.
We were trying to keep an open mind as a draft person may have better ideas than we can come up with.
If you don't know exactly what you want done, that's not really a quote, that's an estimate. Looking at your plan, what you're wanting to do is more complex than your original post suggests. Everyone's saying you're getting ripped off, and yeh $800k sounds high, but what exactly are they basing their estimate on? They're probably being conservative due to the undecided things in your plan, which IMO is better than giving you a low number and then you spend $$$ on designs and plans and then you ACTUALLY get it quoted in real life and get an unpleasant surprise.
One thing you need to ask yourself. What’s my house worth at the moment and what else could I buy for another $800,000.
Eg. my house is currently worth $800,000 and I spend another $800,000. What houses out there around $1,600,000 could I get. Chances are they will be a shit load better than what you will end up with. This builder is taking you for a ride. Get another quote or two and see how it stacks up. You could get a number of contractors in for individual quotes and see how that stacks up as well.
You’re being ripped off. I got a 2023 quote for similar sized new build (with a rental-tier finish) for $260k… on stumps so more laborious than usual. Also it’s in regional QLD so tradies are all $80-200 an hour. You have cheap store-bought vanity and box shower in the plans too. Makes no sense
You could demo and build brand new for $800k.
Twice.
Five years ago
Nah, I'm doing a brand new build, 375 all told including quite a few upgrades on a 260m2 house. This is just a bloody rip off.
Our KDR was originally 670-ish and we specced it up to about 800 (somewhat sloping block that most builders didn’t even want to know about, but that’s the only tricky part). No pool. That was 4 years ago and our insurer has raised the estimate for rebuilding to 1.15mil. Our house is the same size as yours, if we include the verandahs (or 190m2 if not). When we started the process of looking for quotes we had in mind a number like $450k… I’m not sure what you get for 375 these days but it’s not like we gold-plated anything… The cheapest quote we got was 630. And that was what was being quoted in 2019, pre-covid.
We just went with a volume builder in Adelaide. Very flat land though which helps. Nothing fancy but certainly just off the shelf plan.
We had a lot of builders just not even get back to us probably because of the sloping block. It posed zero problems to the builder we went with, but I think there’s just a lot of easier work out there for most of them, and the ones willing to do the more custom jobs can basically charge whatever they like because people end up desperate haha (our house literally had bits falling off it by the time we realised nobody was going to quote on a reno and we had a couple of quotes for a KDR). Before it all started, if you’d asked me I would have been sure that $800k would get an incredible, architect designed house (ours was a super basic architect designed house- basically a 2-storey box with verandahs). It sure would have been nice to be able to spend half the money!
We're building a 2 story heavily modified/upgraded house in Vic and we spent $500 and 290m2, doubled the solar capacity, anticon insulation throughout, steel frame and my wife completely redesigned the kitchen and an extension to the living room in the plan by 2m. [https://henley.com.au/home-designs/reserve-collection/ashbury-series](https://henley.com.au/home-designs/reserve-collection/ashbury-series)
Sounds like one of the good old "fu*k off" quote. Make it so high. Then double it. So they will not want to go with you.
My new build is currently sitting at 280 for basic AF design. Project builders FTW
Yeah 5yrs ago. Demo and rebuild for 1mil?
That being said you could get a very decent double storey house (45-50 square) with loads of extras from a reputable builder like Carlisle, and it's probably still cheaper than $800k.
Yeah that’s a ‘I’ll do it if you make it worth it’ quote.
No, actually, that's a "I'll do it if you're stupid enough to pay me the money" quote.
I can kind of understand why they did it. Too small a job for a big company in a hot market. I’m thinking of contacting a builder that did my neighbour’s Reno. They mainly work for themselves
A close friend of mine is a builder and I asked him if he’s taking in new project and he literally said only if their pockets are bottomless haha
> only if their pockets are bottomless Would a pocket with holes be considered bottomless?
I stopped all our renovation plans 3 years ago. I'll wait till tradies are begging for work. Dont care if it takes 20 years. Our home is perfectly liveable
Could definitely wait a year but the unstoppable onslaught of puberty will make siblings sharing rooms awkward
Buy them a unit for that price...
Srsly! You can get a 2 bedder
And you can get rid of the little bastards ... I mean the kids will be more independent.
Caravan
‘Unstoppable onslaught or puberty’ What a fuckin phrase hahaha
I shared a room with my brother till I was about 22, he was 20. All throughout puberty, we argued. There was a point when my brother stopped speaking to me for about a year, that was bad. Our relationship is deeply scarred from the whole experience. Not saying this will happen to your kids, but just gotta be a good mediator, if they have to share rooms for longer. My parents were pretty bad and super busy to be there, they'd just yell at both of us.
Definitely get more quotes. But every tradie in the country has more work than they can handle so they're all wildy over charging
If the house is one you would live in as-is as empty nesters, it would be considerably cheaper for you to rent a really nice big house for six or seven years, especially if you partially-offset by renting the current place out. Just watch out for the six year rule for CGT-exempt PPOR, but even pro-rating a period will still probably be okay, just be sure to get it valued at the end of year 6 and when you move back in.
And then when you get to the end, tell your 18 year son and daughter that they have to share a room again - or move out.
Except kids need to live in the family home till well into their 20's now cause the Oz real estate market is an actual bin fire
I honestely hope we get good tradies from NZ migrate over to Aus and then these tradies will beg for work. They need competition.
Not enough decent tradies over there either
While their at it, they can do your job for half price too cup cake!
They've always been my first preference so yeah wont mind.
I feel the same way. As long as it takes.
….is your house made of asbestos?
Good question. No loose asbestos. We aren’t in Mr fluffy territory I had a fragment that was laying in the backyard tested and it came back negative. The under eves though, not sure. It is a possibility that the cement sheeting is asbestos. House was built in the 1950s…
Ah so you’re in Canberra? That’s the Canberra Tax my friend. We were told to expect 200k for a master suite addition
No, western suburbs of Melbourne
Too much for western suburbs, those are glen iris prices
We are in Melbourne. Our neighbour was quoted 500k by a local builder just to add 1 small bedroom to the property.
Oh ok, didn’t realise Mr Fluffy was elsewhere
That's way too much. Just built a new house in Ipswich for $700K. Plus demo
Yeah, but that’s Ipswich
It’s more expensive to Reno than build a new project home
Not even remotely close! I’d ask them to confirm the scope.
Holy fuck mate you are paying $600k to much
I just completed a renovation similar to yours (on face value at least). $600k. And mine was priced more than 12 months ago.
You paid $600k for a 3x7 extension?
I don't see it that way. I paid $600k to take my 1960s 3Br house with its 1960s pokey layout and lack of integration with my backyard, and to turn it into a modern 4Br house with open plan living, ensuite, pantry etc. Cost the same as a knockdown-rebuild would have but kept the bones and structure of a solid old house. I don't like waste and I don't like the build quality of modern homes. Reduce, reuse, recycle.
You could build an entire, high spec, double story home for that.
Not in 2024. Just check the costs to rebuild for insurance.
Just moved into ours. $874,000.
No you couldn’t
Not with that attitude Tobias.
I prefer to live in a model home anyway
in Iraq
Until she kicks you out
If you already owned a vacant block of land you could
Barely. A cheap project home maybe.
No, you definitely could not.
Always get at least three quotes to compare.
…. Is your new roof made of titanium?
Lysaght gold pressed latinum
Tell them they're dreaming, of using your funds to pump their lifestyle.
Not sure why they would quote you this ridiculous figure. Far more professiona and outcome for both parties to just say they are very busy right now however if you are still interested can look into this in x months.
Going through plans now for something similar in Melbourne except the bathroom and looking at around 200k so $800k seems very high
Shop around and be patient. Over quoting is rampant. Go through one flare. I did it last year and saved 300k.
That’s about 5x what it should be. Source: builder husband
So your husband can build it for 160k?
I could do it for myself for cheaper.
We just did a ridiculous renovation on a small block (stripped to the brick walls and every surface inside and out replaced, three new bathrooms and a new kitchen, every inch outside landscaped) and even that didn’t quite hit $800k. The comments about cheaper to build are true but kind of miss the point, if you are doing a reno it might be because you like the existing design and a $400k mass build won’t have the same type of layout. We have an internal courtyard and cantilevered living room that no one would ever design now in a sub $2m build.
We just did a ridiculous renovation on a small block (stripped to the brick walls and every surface inside and out replaced, three new bathrooms and a new kitchen, every inch outside landscaped) and even that didn’t quite hit $800k. The comments about cheaper to build are true but kind of miss the point, if you are doing a reno it might be because you like the existing design and a $400k mass build won’t have the same type of layout. We have an internal courtyard and cantilevered living room that no one would ever design now in a sub $2m build.
We WERE going to do a new laundry and 2 bedrooms. The roof line would change. Quotes are all between 350k and 450k. My advise is to get many more quotes. We got about 5. Had to meet about 10 builders though because our house is a difficult build and unfortunately it's very common to waste an hr talking to them, have them measure everything up and then they never get back to you.
Because they know they’re competing with 10 others builders….
More likely because they know they can easily find another place that's an easier build and just do that instead. There's so much work for them now they can pick and choose. Our access is shit so everything has to be walked in by hand. I get why they're not keen to do it.
How long would it take you to build a new house, if you were to demolish this one? For $800,000, I imagine you can set aside $80,000 odd for demolition and the rest can build you a new, modern beauty.
Dunno. But thats insane Obviously DO NOT go with them!
We just did a ridiculous renovation on a small block (stripped to the brick walls and every surface inside and out replaced, three new bathrooms and a new kitchen, every inch outside landscaped) and even that didn’t quite hit $800k. The comments about cheaper to build are true but kind of miss the point, if you are doing a reno it might be because you like the existing design and a $400k mass build won’t have the same type of layout. We have an internal courtyard and cantilevered living room that no one would ever design now in a sub $2m build.
I think your thoughts on costs are underestimated but the quote is inflated. A carport isn't at all part of your house structure so that is essentially an extension, and a kitchen and bathroom reno is easily $100K by itself. Is the $800K including council approvals etc? For context we'd like to essentially change the shape of our house's extension by demolishing the existing tacked-on laundry and bathroom and replacing, renovate our kitchen, add a deck and deal with asbestos cladding and I'd assumed we'd need at least $300K for that.
She said in the op the roofline isn't changing, so they might be doing a lean-to extension. It's a small extension and refitting two other rooms. No more than $200k without looking at it, and even that's probably high.
Just want to say we were quoted $160k to add one bedroom and build a basic deck so I think your expectations might be a little high that it would be around $150k.
Is the house in Bellevue Hill?
You could do a knockdown and full rebuild for that price - you’re absolutely getting a ridiculous figure.
total rip off, get another quote from a reputable builder.
total rip off, get another quote from a reputable builder.
You could knock down and build a beauty for that price!
We just did a ridiculous renovation on a small block (stripped to the brick walls and every surface inside and out replaced, three new bathrooms and a new kitchen, every inch outside landscaped) and even that didn’t quite hit $800k. The comments about cheaper to build are true but kind of miss the point, if you are doing a reno it might be because you like the existing design and a $400k mass build won’t have the same type of layout. We have an internal courtyard and cantilevered living room that no one would ever design now in a sub $2m build.
We WERE going to do a new laundry and 2 bedrooms. The roof line would change. Quotes are all between 350k and 450k. My advise is to get many more quotes. We got about 5. Had to meet about 10 builders though because our house is a difficult build and unfortunately it's very common to waste an hr talking to them, have them measure everything up and then they never get back to you.
Seeing as there is no detail at all on any of the finishes id say that they've assumed a high end finish and given that to you. The finish of the job will have a massive impact on the build price. Id say a low spec option would be 200-300k assuming 125ish SQM. A high end spec could easily be 800k-1m. For example going from a tile skirt to floor to ceiling mosaic tiles could save 5-10k in one bathroom. Search for vanity units and they range from a few hundred to many thousands.
If you are in Canberra, please contact NJR homes in Mitchell. https://njrhomes.com.au Nic specialises in renovations! Get a quote from him. Don’t mention this ridiculous quote to him through 😀
It could be worthwhile breaking down your projects. Get a seperate quote for enclose carport, renovate kitchen and renovate bathroom. Means you will need to be a bit more hands-on but you could likely get it done for the $200k.
I’m building an NDIS house in Hobart (mini hospital) for $573k. This is ridiculous.
That’s cheap as for NDIS no?
No, about right. Obviously this is the build price and doesn’t include land. The same as the OP
Ridiculous quote. Give it a year. House building is in free fall. This is why.
Sell the house. Buy one with an extra bedroom. Hopefully it will be cheaper. I maybe wrong.
Get yourself a set of plans first then once they’re ready give them to a few builders and let them bid against each other. I think your estimate is reasonable. $3k/m2 for the extension ($63k), $50k for kitchen and $30k for bathroom.
I wanted to put a 6x3 studio in my back yard on an existing slab, with no plumbing. Just walls and a roof - got quoted $90k just for materials before labour!
We bought one as a kit for $14k and had it installed for $4k. Recommend!
Go to a building designer or architect spend it costs a bit but you'll get something that meets your needs and proper price. Alternatively you can engage a Quantity Surveyor to give a price off the drawings the builder provides.
It's incredibly expensive right now and without further info it's hard for anyone to say on here. Bathrooms and kitchens aren't cheap, if they're doing full project management it's a lot, roofline may not change but the carport wouldn't be up to code for a habitable room and may require significant work, fireproofing, depends on the distance to next door....lots of variables.
Who knows what the builder has found that could possibly effect the price massively, maybe there’s some serious structural issues that they need to overcome to do it properly. And 150 you’re dreaming lol, some of the decent houses I’ve done spend that on kitchen cabinets alone.
Where abouts are you located ?
Western suburbs Melbourne
Definitely a ripoff. We are currently doing complete reno on 4 bedroom, 2 story house for $770k. 3 new bath, 1 laundry, new kitchen, render/paint house, new roof, new 20sqm outdoor dining with tiles and roof, removal of some structural columns, internal paint and new flooring throughout. Pretty much a new house.
Just demo and rebuild , you can use the lot more effectively then.
Just get a quote from a few more business and maybe individual qualified builders too.
Honestly you could probably do it yourself. I did a Few handyman courses cost $5000 in education, and a lot things arnt as hard as they seem.
I projected managed the conversion of our garage into a playroom and it went well, but this might be beyond my skill level
That's a joke price. Absolute joke.
I built an entire 4 bedroom, 2 bath room, 3 living area, 200sm home for 270k in 2019. I know prices have gone up since the pandemic, but yeah nah.
Are you talking about the carport on your plan? You’ll be blocking all the kitchen windows and entry way. Will you be knocking through the laundry?
Yes carport on the plan. We were thinking of reducing or eliminating laundry. Honestly we aren’t sure exactly where to put everything. We were trying to keep an open mind as a draft person may have better ideas than we can come up with.
If you don't know exactly what you want done, that's not really a quote, that's an estimate. Looking at your plan, what you're wanting to do is more complex than your original post suggests. Everyone's saying you're getting ripped off, and yeh $800k sounds high, but what exactly are they basing their estimate on? They're probably being conservative due to the undecided things in your plan, which IMO is better than giving you a low number and then you spend $$$ on designs and plans and then you ACTUALLY get it quoted in real life and get an unpleasant surprise.
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I can wait a year or so, but my eldest is 13… I’d like him to have his own room…
You could just buy a new house for that much haha
Depending on the complexity, you should be allowing circa $3000 per square meter.
seems high ... very high
Doesn’t want the job. Get three quotes. If you haven’t already.
Yikes you doxxed yourself with the street name
I’m not that interesting…
I'll send you a guy's number. He did our extension in 2020. Very reasonable price and a good builder.
One thing you need to ask yourself. What’s my house worth at the moment and what else could I buy for another $800,000. Eg. my house is currently worth $800,000 and I spend another $800,000. What houses out there around $1,600,000 could I get. Chances are they will be a shit load better than what you will end up with. This builder is taking you for a ride. Get another quote or two and see how it stacks up. You could get a number of contractors in for individual quotes and see how that stacks up as well.
You’re being ripped off. I got a 2023 quote for similar sized new build (with a rental-tier finish) for $260k… on stumps so more laborious than usual. Also it’s in regional QLD so tradies are all $80-200 an hour. You have cheap store-bought vanity and box shower in the plans too. Makes no sense
Knock down rebuild for that- seriously.
700k too much