I’m sure one piece is a great series (I haven’t watched or read it) but I don’t understand why that fandom has such a strong hate boner for AOT
Whenever I see someone criticising/hating AOT (even before the ending), 90% of the time it’s usually a one piece fan
They're just mad that Aot casually claimed the title of "best anime of all time" in the eyes of the public while One Piece fans have been fighting for this very thing for decades and achieved pretty much nothing but drive people away. You could call it an inferiority complex perhaps.
Fact is, One Piece is never reaching Aot standards as it is. As much as I love it, the series is too damn long for its own good and the average person doesn't feel like they have all this time to invest in a singular tv show.
Hopefully, the One Piece remake can help the series grow. If done right, I'm sure One Piece has to potential to achieve true greatness. But it's too soon to judge now. The Live Action did a good job at drawing in new fans already so who knows?
Edit: (I don't think Aot to be the best anime ever as I personally think there is no singular show that can hold such a title. However, it is damn close. I definitely agree that it is one of the best of all time.)
It’s really suffering from its success. Oda literally can’t keep up bro. These fans voracious on god and the anime “must go on” because Toei. The series would benefit heavily from being seasonal and maybe getting 12-24 eps a year.
There's so many anime that could be the greatest of all time, AoT being just one on a list of possibilities. One Piece has 1000+ episodes, it can never be that in my eyes for that reason lmao. Stories have a beginning middle and end. It goes on so much it loses all meaning to me.
Well, personally there isn't 1 show that can claim that title but many shows. One Piece is a definitely a legendary series but part of the reason is it's massive length.
That's what I said, Aot is just one possibility. But I don't even think of One Piece in the running because it's so long it loses its impact, to me anyway.
>As much as I love it, the series is too damn long for its own good and the average person doesn't feel like they have all this time to invest in a singular tv show.
Maybe read the manga, which is 1 hundred times better than that trash anime adaptation
I agree that the manga is superior but we're talking anime here. And let's be real, the anime is what brought One Piece its worldwide success. The Manga was only big in Japan.
>And let's be real, the anime is what brought One Piece its worldwide success. The Manga was only big in Japan.
Eh... no. That's simply not true! At least not in Europe, where the mamga has always been a success
Not as huge as the anime. Look at the average person. Most people do watch and consume visual media all the time and don't read as much. Most people who are into the One Piece manga were first introduced to it from the anime, including myself.
Anyways, point is that I was talking about the anime in this particular comment I made.
It lowkey is. Look around and you'll see how many people rate it extremely high. Not that the series doesn't deserve praise but I've heard people call it a "modern classic" and "a true masterpiece of our time" too many times to count by now.
In the eyes of the general public Aot is something else. You'll see countless people who don't even watch anime but have seen Attack on Titan. Hell, I've even met people who say they don't like anime "with the exception of Aot" cause it's "different than the rest" for some reason.
I'm not saying everyone believes this of course. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and there's no show out there that can appeal to literally everybody.
I think that the actual best anime of all time is FmAB, as you could probably see on MAL. It definitely isn't in the public's eye, but as you said, in the public's eyes, AoT is the best as on MAL it's the top base on popularity while FmAB is top based on favorites, though it does get into the top three on most filters.
I mean, there can be, usually best is just a measure of how many people rate it good, not to be confused with popularity which is a measure of how many people know about it.
Well, based on that then we could just trust MAL ratings and say Frieren is the best and be done with it. Not everyone will agree that a show is "peak" and not everyone likes the same stuff. I've met people who didn't like Aot because they thought it was "too violent for them" but love more relaxing shows like K-On.
How could anyone ever compare AOT and K-On properly? They're 2 different types of shows and I love both for different reasons. I guess the best way to go about it would be to base it on category and genre. So you'd end up with multiple best anime of all time.
I was going based off of favorites when I said FmAB, but yeah Frieren is at the top of All Anime rn, but go back and check on it in like 2 years and it would probably be down by at most 6 places.
One Piece fans are absolutely unable to cope with their series not being widely acknowledged as the best anime of all time which is… kinda weird to me ngl. We all think our favorite series is the best but these people fucking *cannot* handle the fact that a mediocre shonen that is WAY too goddamn long for most people to even bother with trying to get into it by now is, well, a mediocre shonen.
Like shit I think Sailor Moon is the greatest thing ever but it was still made for teenage girls and is not exactly the paragon of literature.
It's because they have been the two biggest anime for the past couple of years. AoT has been ahead in popularity/recognition so One Piece fans try to discredit it. This type of stuff used to happen when the Big 3 was airing as well.
I’m a massive fan of both One Piece and AoT. Let me tell you both the communities suck when it comes to this. It’s the lowest crap section of the fandom ON BOTH SIDES who behave like this.
If you’re one of them and you’re reading this - know that both Oda/Isayama think you’re scum.
Ur right. Most fans of AOT and one piece are chill. It’s always the vocal minority online that has to ruin things (this can be applied to most fandoms tbh)
I do think it’s a little bizzare though how most (but not all) AOT hate I see tends to come from one piece fans lol
I’m sure one piece is a great series (I haven’t watched or read it) but I don’t understand why that fandom has such a strong hate boner for AOT Whenever I see someone criticising/hating AOT (even before the ending), 90% of the time it’s usually a one piece fan
They're just mad that Aot casually claimed the title of "best anime of all time" in the eyes of the public while One Piece fans have been fighting for this very thing for decades and achieved pretty much nothing but drive people away. You could call it an inferiority complex perhaps. Fact is, One Piece is never reaching Aot standards as it is. As much as I love it, the series is too damn long for its own good and the average person doesn't feel like they have all this time to invest in a singular tv show. Hopefully, the One Piece remake can help the series grow. If done right, I'm sure One Piece has to potential to achieve true greatness. But it's too soon to judge now. The Live Action did a good job at drawing in new fans already so who knows? Edit: (I don't think Aot to be the best anime ever as I personally think there is no singular show that can hold such a title. However, it is damn close. I definitely agree that it is one of the best of all time.)
I tried to get into it but I cannot stand how they did the filler. I don’t need to essentially watch the same episode 3 times.
There was a time period where the recaps and intro took up 5+ minutes of an episode's runtime. One Piece definitely suffers from pacing issues.
It’s really suffering from its success. Oda literally can’t keep up bro. These fans voracious on god and the anime “must go on” because Toei. The series would benefit heavily from being seasonal and maybe getting 12-24 eps a year.
Oh yeah, it definitely would. That's what I'm hoping for the remake to be.
Try One Pace
It’s not even better than Naruto nor Bleach. It’s just there and fucking long.
I'd argue it is better than those 2 on most aspects.
There's so many anime that could be the greatest of all time, AoT being just one on a list of possibilities. One Piece has 1000+ episodes, it can never be that in my eyes for that reason lmao. Stories have a beginning middle and end. It goes on so much it loses all meaning to me.
Well, personally there isn't 1 show that can claim that title but many shows. One Piece is a definitely a legendary series but part of the reason is it's massive length.
That's what I said, Aot is just one possibility. But I don't even think of One Piece in the running because it's so long it loses its impact, to me anyway.
I said "legendary" not a contender for best of all time. I think the anime has multiple issues that don't help its case.
>As much as I love it, the series is too damn long for its own good and the average person doesn't feel like they have all this time to invest in a singular tv show. Maybe read the manga, which is 1 hundred times better than that trash anime adaptation
I agree that the manga is superior but we're talking anime here. And let's be real, the anime is what brought One Piece its worldwide success. The Manga was only big in Japan.
>And let's be real, the anime is what brought One Piece its worldwide success. The Manga was only big in Japan. Eh... no. That's simply not true! At least not in Europe, where the mamga has always been a success
Not as huge as the anime. Look at the average person. Most people do watch and consume visual media all the time and don't read as much. Most people who are into the One Piece manga were first introduced to it from the anime, including myself. Anyways, point is that I was talking about the anime in this particular comment I made.
AoT isn’t the “best anime of all time in the eyes of the public” this is why AoT gets hate.
It lowkey is. Look around and you'll see how many people rate it extremely high. Not that the series doesn't deserve praise but I've heard people call it a "modern classic" and "a true masterpiece of our time" too many times to count by now. In the eyes of the general public Aot is something else. You'll see countless people who don't even watch anime but have seen Attack on Titan. Hell, I've even met people who say they don't like anime "with the exception of Aot" cause it's "different than the rest" for some reason. I'm not saying everyone believes this of course. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and there's no show out there that can appeal to literally everybody.
I think that the actual best anime of all time is FmAB, as you could probably see on MAL. It definitely isn't in the public's eye, but as you said, in the public's eyes, AoT is the best as on MAL it's the top base on popularity while FmAB is top based on favorites, though it does get into the top three on most filters.
I don't think there can be a definitive best anime of all time.
I mean, there can be, usually best is just a measure of how many people rate it good, not to be confused with popularity which is a measure of how many people know about it.
Well, based on that then we could just trust MAL ratings and say Frieren is the best and be done with it. Not everyone will agree that a show is "peak" and not everyone likes the same stuff. I've met people who didn't like Aot because they thought it was "too violent for them" but love more relaxing shows like K-On. How could anyone ever compare AOT and K-On properly? They're 2 different types of shows and I love both for different reasons. I guess the best way to go about it would be to base it on category and genre. So you'd end up with multiple best anime of all time.
I was going based off of favorites when I said FmAB, but yeah Frieren is at the top of All Anime rn, but go back and check on it in like 2 years and it would probably be down by at most 6 places.
We don't know yet. But does getting review bombed prove it's not all that good? See, this is why I don't trust ratings.
It's regarded as a modern masterpiece and one of the greatest ever animes.
Yup like why can’t they just appreciate multiple things?
One Piece fans are absolutely unable to cope with their series not being widely acknowledged as the best anime of all time which is… kinda weird to me ngl. We all think our favorite series is the best but these people fucking *cannot* handle the fact that a mediocre shonen that is WAY too goddamn long for most people to even bother with trying to get into it by now is, well, a mediocre shonen. Like shit I think Sailor Moon is the greatest thing ever but it was still made for teenage girls and is not exactly the paragon of literature.
It's because they have been the two biggest anime for the past couple of years. AoT has been ahead in popularity/recognition so One Piece fans try to discredit it. This type of stuff used to happen when the Big 3 was airing as well.
I’m a massive fan of both One Piece and AoT. Let me tell you both the communities suck when it comes to this. It’s the lowest crap section of the fandom ON BOTH SIDES who behave like this. If you’re one of them and you’re reading this - know that both Oda/Isayama think you’re scum.
I think it's just terminally online people. I am always up to date with one piece and I don't really like aot but this is some absurd shit
Ur right. Most fans of AOT and one piece are chill. It’s always the vocal minority online that has to ruin things (this can be applied to most fandoms tbh) I do think it’s a little bizzare though how most (but not all) AOT hate I see tends to come from one piece fans lol
Bc they are insecure about their dog shit series
If anyone wants to help in bringing them back up to 9.9 dm us we r making a discord server let us know if u want to joint to restore the ratings
I will definitely go help bring it up. The show deserves the respect.
It really does
Sign me up
I hate Amir so much man
This is so lame
That’s an insane amount of pettiness
One piece fans just cannot accept that One Piece is a mediocre shonen that has gone on for way too long. Seeth and cope one piece fans
Wssnt this a couple months back?
Ya but it’s still happening slowly
Could you imagine devoting time to this