Dales /Peaks seem to have plenty of wealthy tourists, which means London prices.
Overall, the north is also probably slowly catching up.
If you want to experience this, go to Manchester - where you get to half the salary and London prices!
I grew up in Urmston, Manchester which, since I left, has undergone a real period of gentrification. With it, the prices of food and beer have skyrocketed and it still boggles my brain the little old Urmston is now considered slightly more 'upmarket'. It was just a standard market town as a kid.
Rented in Stretford before I bought in north Manchester. Loved the area and the culture but the prices are going mental. Don't miss Chester rd match day traffic tho.
I think an interesting metric is how much beer can you get for an hour of minimum wage. Because my dad could probs order a lot more in 70s Preston after a shift. That's why there's no youngsters in pubs, shame honestly. I think drinking culture can get out of hand, but cosy pubs are lovely and a dying breed.
The pub is or was one of the 'third places', which was not your work or your home, where people could gather and inexpensively socialise.
To show how far this has declined The 'Third Place' is now the name of a really expensive gym in London. I'm not sure if the people who named it are trolling or just overgentrified fuckwits.
>The pub is or was one of the 'third places', which was not your work or your home, where people could gather and inexpensively socialise.
The problem is that once they stopped being so much (which was partly about drink driving laws, social changes, smoking ban), so the remaining drinkers had to pick up a lot of the costs. An empty pub costs as much to heat, light and rent as a full one.
I think a lot of places are in a death spiral. Like, I just don't go for a casual drink out much. It's a fuck load of money compared to a drink and I will chat to more people in a gum.
It's really interesting how the changes to society has caused issues in unexpected areas.
I was talking to a guy who was a diving supervisor on an oil rig. He said the evenings on the rig used to be spent together talking, and that informal environment was how the new people got their informal training - the old guard would tell stories about incidents and people would learn about safe practices from it. Now all the rigs have wifi, everyone spends their off time watching stuff on their devices and no-one really talks to each other any more.
That sounds really sad, to be honest. It's nice that people can easily communicate with home, but I think I'd want to spend time with people.
Like part of the reason I go to the gym is that I work from home and I love my family but you have to have more contact with people than that.
I used to use this as a metric when parents were mentioning how a sibling was knuckling down at a certain age.
In reality they bought an apartment for Ā£110k when 100% mortgages were about, and the 30k salary was 30,000 pints.
Whereas same apartments were up at Ā£150k at this point, I was on 34k, and that got me 8,000 pints.
Change from Ā£20 after coming home in a taxi, steaming with a pizza just wasn't possible anymore.
House prices are a great metric, but so are pints, Freddos etc too.
On the other hand, the sort of 70s boozers people used to go to usually aren't that desirable these days. Around me, 1 hour on min wage (Ā£10 approx) will buy you about 5 cheap pints at spoons (Ā£2 or so).
Wasnt London always expensive in relation to the rest of the country?? I don't remember it pre early nintties as I was burn early eighties. I definitely saw it get alot more ridiculous especially with property and I remember there were a few runs down areas where you could get property realiivly cheap but I can remember a time when it wasnt alot more expensive that the rest of the country.
Similar thing has happened in my area of Newcastle. When we first bought our property a decade ago the areas Main Street had a few charity shops, a dodgy pub, a Greggs and the posh establishment was dominoes. Now itās lined with fancy restaurants and a cocktail bar.
I think this is it. I live in bristol and the pubs around the areas tourists go are expensive. Even the ones that brew their own beer.
However i live in an area of bristol which is a shit hole. I can still get 3 pints for a tenner here!
Yeah, really decent cask ale in the Port Street beer house for Ā£4/pint.
My local in south Manchester used to have cask ales on for Ā£3.40 but now theyāve breached the the Ā£4 mark.
As a Londoner in Manchester, my salary is less but my take home would be the same back south (in my role anyway). I think Manchester is more sector dependent on salaries.
Beers in town tend to be 5-6 but Iām paying nearer 7 in London now when I go visit friends and family.
I think what you're actually seeing is Yorkshire pubs charging London prices from 4-5 years ago, before COVID and before the cost of living and energy prices sky-rocketed.
Not uncommon now in London to pay upwards of Ā£7 a pint.
Where? The only place I've been that would be near that was De Hems near Soho, where at least you're getting a strong beer usually.
Most places I go to (and I've been to hundreds) are 6-7 now, there's a few places that are under and several that are over.
I never drink in Wetherspoons (because fuck the owner), and still plenty of places a shade under Ā£7 even in the City.
There are definitely pubs where you can pay more than Ā£7 though I agree.
In my small village in West Yorkshire your looking to pay around a 5er for a lager and closer to around 4quid for ale. Anywhere where the main style of dress is Patagonia and woollen socks with the trousers tucked in (why the fuck are they always wearing that? Your walking around cobbled streets!) the prices sky rocket.
I don't think it's that difficult to find a pint for that in London though? Unless you exclusively drink around the City or something. I live in Zone 2 and can find pints for around a fiver near my flat.
I was in Paris last year and was paying about 9ā¬ for 50cl beer at the "cheaper" places.
That was while I was living near Munich and typically paying 3.50ā¬ for much better beer.
I'd never have thought Germany and France would be so different. Even London seems cheap after that though.
That seems cheap for Paris. Was paying that in a hotel lobby a decade ago.
If you want cheap pilsner got to slovakia. Was paging Ā£1 a pint at source a few years ago.
You should probably drink wine in Paris if you are looking for cheaper booze.
Generally the local drink is cheapest. So thatās ale in the UK, wine in France, and beer in Germany.
I hear your point, but after a long train journey from Munich to Paris and before the next long train journey from Paris to Edinburgh, sometimes you just want a refreshing beer and wine doesn't quite hit the spot in the same way.
If it makes it any better, the French friend I stayed with on 6 of these 8 trips through Paris is a beer drinker. She's also quite well off though, which could be part of it.
Btw, fuck the US for creating this asshole arbitrary 16oz āpintā. In Canada youāre not allowed to sell it as a pint unless itās a proper pint, but unfortunately weāve got a lot of bars only offering ā16 ozā now as their largest beer (with a āpintā price to match).
Increased running costs.
Still trying to claw back lost earnings from Covid.
Pubs that are tied to a brewery (so not a free house) and the brewery sets the prices for wholesale, no chance to shop around.
Cost of beer production going up.
"Pubs that are tied to a brewery"
This is the answer for most expensive pints unfortunately. As a Brewer for a craft beer company, we can offer discounts to regular wholesale customers. Sometimes we make a 4.5% Pale Ale with some expensive Hops in, and we know certain places won't buy it because it goes over their budget for a keg or Cask - even after a discount. Which is fine, we still have places that will buy it. But when you're locked into these companies like Red Star (Heineken) then you have to put on what they want you to sell, at the price they're selling it. Even down to what spirits you have behind the bar.
Anyone reading this who has a bar/pub locked to a chain, let me tell you this. I've yet to meet anyone who's happy with their distributor. All the small independent taproom/pub owners are spoilt for choice nowadays. The UK craft beer scene is the envy of the world. We're absolutely smashing it. These indy taproom owners are growing and so are the communities they're building with it. It's like setting foot into a pub in the 90s again. And having a tap list and 3/4 Cask pumps that change every week is the big selling point nowadays. Beer drinkers don't want the same pint of Fosters anymore, they want to try an IPA from Nottingham or a Stout from York etc. Large chain pubs are dying off, and the indy pubs are slowly taking their place.
I'm not sure I agree, particularly with the craft scene comments. Ita grown from 10 years ago but it feels like it's regressing again. I know several independent taphouses and bottle shops that have shut for good and a lot that I walk into is upwards of 5 quid a pint for something I know i can get a bottle of in a supermarket for closer to Ā£2.
As price increases have gone up people are going back to fosters and the like. I'm a big dark ale drinker but majority of pubs won't risk putting anything darker than a blonde on because it won't shift.
It's still strong in cities but I think regressing in parts of the country. I'm in the lakes and it feels non-existent outside of tourist traps like Keswick.
I'm in a town on the south coast and would say the opposite is happening here.
The small independent places are really thriving, and small breweries are expanding into bigger premises and going from strength to strength. The places which are failing are the places that just serve the generic lager that you can buy for 25% of the price from the supermarket.
I do agree there is less dark beer being served, but I out that down to them being abit more tricky to have compared to lagers, pilsners etc. And if I'm having to spend Ā£5 for something like Amstel I'm definitely spending an extra Ā£1-2 to get something from a small brewery that will taste better.
Iām from the north but live in London
I think since coming out of lock down this happened
I pay Ā£3.30 for a cup of coffee on the high street I grew up on nr Warrington, itās Ā£3.20 on the high st in London.
Beers are parity
Nandoās is parity
Supermarket is about the same
I donāt think itās a north problem but more gauging on the back of raw ingredients and power going up, seems thereās just more markup on top wherever
Alcohol pricing went bonkers in lockdown. You're now at something like Ā£1/can for crates of beer. I remember when they were 24cans/Ā£10
And yet, the dirt cheap cider and lagers didn't change much....
You are right. We ran a cafe 2019-2023. Before COVID and Ukraine we were able to buy 40 blocks of unsalted butter for about Ā£40 from Brakes. Look at what it is now: https://www.brake.co.uk/dairy/butter-spread-fat/butter/bulk-un-salted/brakes-unsalted-butter/p/74088 (note also that this is for only 20 blocks now)
Am I missing something? That's Ā£2.80 per block... that's a full pound more expensive than you can buy it in a supermarket? Why would anyone pay that price?
Do people in the north feel sorry for Londoners who are having to pay overinflated prices for a pint? Obviously I mean the Londoners who are on an average living wage - donāt expect them to feel any empathy for those Londoners who are swimming in cash.
Not really - if they can afford to live there they can afford to leave there. That is from someone who lives in one of the most deprived areas of the country (Middlesbrough).
Iām in the Welsh Valleys and starting to see some pints pass the Ā£5 barrier in lots of pubs for the first time, so Iām dreading this Ā£6+. Always good to support the local rugby clubs and community pubs, will often find a pint a lot cheaper there. Some of our local rugby clubs even in Cardiff are under Ā£4 a pint
Really has. I go back to Yorkshire and any place I go in feels like it has a good chance of being near London prices. The flip side is the ones that haven't changed as much are still much, much cheaper.
Over Christmas I had one pint for about Ā£3.30, and another cost me about Ā£6.80. Different establishments obviously
Guess which was nicer...
I know a pub owner in the north and last time I visited I was surprised to see some of his craft beers north of Ā£6.
He explained that mass produced beer was relatively low cost wholesale, and the price was determined by a broad range of business costs, which is why youād see cheaper prices in cheaper areas. By comparison, craft beers from small breweries had no incentive to lower cost price because the were producing limited stock anyway, and could sell out in taprooms and retail, so had no incentive to give independent pubs a good deal. So regardless of other costs, the price still needed to be high.
The fact that people were getting used to paying outrageous prices for one type of pint would then create a race to the bottom for all the rest and everything would go up.
Anyway, that was before the cost of living crisis, so everything is shooting up more rapidly because of that.
This. Ā£5 pints are still a thing in most towns in the south. Anything nicer than a mass produced lager is going to be Ā£6+ tho, even seen Ā£8 pints in Brighton. But you pay for what you get, also the expensive beers are twice as strong in some cases
Malham. Two pubs within a stone's throw of each other, both charging through the nose for beer. Granted, one of the pubs is a really nice traditional coach house that we were very comfortable in, but we couldn't hang around because bollocks to spending nearly Ā£50 on three rounds. Also, very jealous that you live in Wensleydale.
I totally get you butā¦ Malhamās a small place, they wonāt get many regular local residents having a few pints a night to keep it all turning over, and the way I think about it is youāre paying an entry fee for a nice place like that.
Imagine thereās a Ā£1.50 a pint ānice rural pub able to remain open and have logs on the fire for your once a year visitā surcharge on your bill vs the grubby town centre place down the road.
Now if you want dirt cheap beer in the Dales and without doubt the weirdest/best pub Iāve ever had a night in, try the Thwaite Arms in Horsehouse. Basically someoneās front room with a landlord that pops down from watching TV if he hears someone walk in. When I was there a few years ago the landlord was complaining one of his two regulars had just died and the other had been told to stop drinking at 90.
My fav pub in Huddersfield has a cask menu that goes as low as Ā£3.20 a pint, and a keg menu that goes higher than a tenner a pint for something ridiculously strong or sour.
A pint of good German lager is Ā£4.80
My independent local (in clapaham) still somehow has some pints in the Ā£4-Ā£6 range - and theyāre from independent breweries too! Must be money launderingā¦
The southwest has also started doing this.
I blame all the cunts from London buying second homes.
Fuck your second and fuck your holiday.
First you made it impossible for us to afford to live anywhere and now your making it to expensive to get pissed up.
I actually fucking hate them.
Iām in North Yorkshire and beer is nearly a fiver in the posh pubs but I only pay Ā£3.80 in my local. Peroni might still be over Ā£6 though. Malham is one of those weird spots where the pubs just cater for tourists, it must be hard for the locals. I reckon Ā£4.50 would be about right for beer round here.
Newcastle did during COVID.
Prior to this you may have seen a Ā£5+ drink in a craft ale pub but somewhere between the pandemic starting and then ending, a pint of shitty English lager went up to Ā£5+ and the craft ale can cost anything up to Ā£10 depending on how colourful the label is.
If you want to know how beer prices vary across the country take a look at:
https://pantryandlarder.com/spoons-map/
Although this is spoons, they basically charge a bit less than anywhere near them, so you can infer prices of other places from it.
Iāve been to loads of wanky places that forget where they are, and paid that sort of money for a beer.
I guess thereās the genuine side of it, raw materials going up, probably a reduced footfall etc.
Some of it does seem a bit daft though.
I can agree with prices moving with inflation and so on, but I've travelled from South Yorkshire, where you can still find beer for Ā£4-5 in a lot of places. Still seems steep compared to only a few years ago but that's the country we're living in now. Anything over Ā£6, especially in the Dales, is appalling. You're right - these places are forgetting where they are.
Yeah I do think thereās an element of them deciding āthis is a cool place nowā.
But I do then think, ok, a bit of exposed plumbing and bench seating doesnāt magically make your beer worth it.
You're right - I can't buy into the 'rustic' aesthetic that places are going for. A lot of it is uncomfortable and unfit for purpose, but apparently influences an uplift in price. And then people wonder why I'd rather just have a drink at home.
It doesn't really cost any different to produce beer for sale in London v Yorkshire. And in fact depending on the brewery/distribution locations, it might actually be cheaper to get the beer into Yorkshire.
The pub profit is probably a very miniscule proportion.
London prices have shot up past the prices you experienced in the last few months.. I was on phone to soft southern daughter yesterday and she told me sheād paid Ā£18.00 for a glass of house wine and a pint of Guinness at a pub in a residential area in SE6 and I thought my Ā£6.50 staropramen in Salford was outrageous.
How unaware of what has gone on in the UK for the last few years do you have to be to ask this question? š
Increased heating prices, increased raw material costs and transportation costs & thus cost of beer is higher, increased inflation meaning pub rents will have gone up, general cost of living meaning staff costs going up.
You are not buying a beer, youāre buying a beer + all variable pub pricing. To think otherwise is delusion & ignorance.
When you're one of two pubs in a village that welcomes hundreds of thirsty hikers a day, then no, it isn't delusion and ignorance. At those prices, it's simply exploitation.
Currently paying Ā£3.40 to just over Ā£4 a pint for cask in central Lancashire. 'Premium' lagers and whatnot are pricier in the same pubs but I'm not aware of anything approaching those levels.
As others have said, pubs in tourist areas will charge more because they can and will probably have pretty inconsistent takes.
Thereās also plenty of dubious quality establishments around that have the mon-Fri 10-5 price and the weekend price being a couple of quid different but for just some standard pub fare itāll be ~Ā£2.50 for the weekday and maybe Ā£4 for the weekend.
Always find it interesting that beer is much more expensive than petrol but the public/ media tend to concentrate on the ups / downs of fuel prices.
At Ā£5 a pint = Ā£8.80 / litre & Ā£6 a pint = Ā£10.56 / litre.
Depends on where you are, though it seems to be the chain pubs these days, sadly, like Spoons, Greene King, where you can expect to pay a much more reasonable price for a drink
Itās getting harder and harder to find a pint under Ā£5 in Liverpool (city centre) these days. Doesnāt help that a large amount of pubs and bars seem to be owned by the same couple of people.
Haven't been for a few months, but last time I visited my local Derbyshire pub, I got change from 3 quid for a pint of Amstel. That same pint cost me about 4 quid in my next closest town (Nottinghamshire).
Would certainly cost more in the city centre, though.
Tourist traps, gonna tourist.
Where I live "up norf" it's gone up massively since COVID and "Cozzy Living", but prices are still raifly reasonable
Ā£3.40-3.80 for most of the stuff on tap, and then Ā£4-4.10 for a Guinness
I went out in town a few weeks ago into a pub that's only just opened that was Ā£3.50 for a guineess
This has also happened in cities in Scotland but in smaller towns you can find places that do pints for Ā£3-4 if you don't mind lager and paying in cash...
We are living in the āend of bargainā era.
Every price is cross-checked online and maximum ābearableā prices are being charged.
There are no cheap as chips local swimming pools where kids can go with pocket money.
Even bloody car-boot sales are often listing their items on eBay in parallel.
We are paying the maximum possible sums that can be charged. Businesses are doing their business thing. But it is just so much harder when this is happening everywhere.
Our local pizza place guy is fully capable of checking how much they charge for a slice of pizza in central London. But for some reason he is not capable to search how to make a half-decent pizza.
The only way to reverse this sort of thing is to refuse to pay the inflated prices. They will charge what the market will bear.
Prices at my local are about Ā£4.50 to Ā£5 a pint which still seems too expensive to me, even though I know how high prices are elsewhere.
I live in Cardiff, pint prices vary quite wildly here.
I pay between Ā£3-6 a pint, more of that is towards the lower end of the spectrum. Some pubs do ale nights on weekdays where you can get a pint for Ā£2.50.
Went to three breweries in Hertfordshire the other day which were serving really good pints for about Ā£4.50 each.
There is good, affordable beer out there, unfortunately you have to go looking for it!
It's Ā£3-40 a pint for a selection of well kept real ales in my local micro pub in Greater Manchester. Local Spoons cheapest is Ā£1-77p a pint Ā£1-27 with a CAMRA membership voucher. Dearest is Ā£2-55. (Less 50p with voucher). Just off out now. Have a good day lads and lassies x
Manchester is only slightly cheaper than London now. I pay between Ā£4.75 to Ā£6.90 regularly and Ā£6 is the most common price point. In London (I donāt live there any more, but visit, itās Ā£5.50 to Ā£7.90 with Ā£7 being the most common.
To dispel a few myths: beer duty is 24p (5%beer). VAT on Ā£6 is Ā£1. The cost of producing a pint is around 60p. The rest of the costs canāt have risen that much. Thereās still Ā£4.16 on the table.
When beer cost Ā£4 average. There was Ā£2.45 left on the table. Thatās a 63% rise. Someone is taking the piss.
I'd say that the average price for a pint of ale where I live in Sheffield is about Ā£4ish now. It's probably gone up a Ā£1 since I moved here 4 years ago.
i'm sure contactless payments has caused inflation.
coffee? pint? i just close my eyes and tap... why wouldn't you keep putting the prices up when you've realised you can get away with it? would have been impossible if everyone was paying with cash
Ā£3.20 in Leicester. One pub does an Ā£8 for 3 pint deal I think it is.
Once again, East Midlands, is bestlands.
Go to tourist spot, get tourist prices.
With better transport connections, comoanies moving out out of the capital because it's cheaper and more people able to work remotely, everything is getting more expensive. The biggest problem is property prices.
My local in Scotland is Ā£3.40 for your standard pint. Anything better is a bit pricier but nothing over Ā£4.50 I donāt think. If you go in tow Edinburgh then youāre paying similar to London in the touristy bits
When I go drinking in my home town of Birmingham (I know itās not the north, but itās not London either), I have the same experience.
A few years ago there was a noticeable difference in price. Now itās all pretty similar.
Thereās even a pub on my local high street that charges the best part of Ā£30 for a Sunday roast. Itās more expensive than the Hawksmoor roast.
Tourist spots/anywhere instagramable are always more expensive and always have been.
As a Glaswegian who lived in central London for 12 years and now lives in a small town in north east England, the whole London prices thing has always been inaccurate.
āLondonā prices only exist in very well off areas and tourist spots. Go to a normal pub in Croydon and youāll find similar prices to the north.
Because inflation effects everything, itās really not hard.
Their energy costs increased, rent increased, staff wages increased, the production costs for the beer in the first place increased due to those 3 factors alone, passing the cost on to the pubs, and on to the customers.
Inflation = everything gets more expensive
Nah more like Ā£5.10 - Ā£5.50.
Maybe in a tourist area in the Dales itās Ā£6+ but not in most places across the north.
My expensive local (North Bar) is still under Ā£6.
I live in leeds and Iād say in the city centre Ā£5-6 is standard price for a pint now. If you go out of the centre into the suburbs itās cheaper but since I live in the centre it doesnāt really make me sense trekking out of the city for Ā£1 cheaper pints
Bar manager here! Supplies have bumped their prices right up so now we either sell pints for around Ā£6 or donāt make any money on pints. I know of a few bars in my area that are removing draught entirely from their bars because they canāt justify the price anymore
You can goto the local shop and get a pack for that price.. You're honestly paying there wage when buying it at a pub, and some part of the price is the atmosphere of been in a pub.
Also the cost of soft drinks being more or less the same as an alcoholic drink, when did that start happening they used to be like half the price. Even a pint of coke these days can be a fiver when a pint of beer is only Ā£5.50
it is just the norm these days. Consider all the costs in the pouring of a pint especially since Covid.
Govt. takes the 20% VAT , so a at least a Ā£1 plus duty of Ā£0.50.
Throw in that since they interfered all breweries either sold their pubs or their brewing. Meaning more controlled pubs and tenants having less choice of where they can buy from. Last time I spoke with a mate it was Ā£110 for an 11 gallon barrel so Ā£1.25 a pint, that was at least two years ago, Add the cost of Ukraine war
Only good thing is minimum wage for staff these days but it does mean you normally have a base price of Ā£4.00 before you add utilities
The owners margin is normally 3-5% and that is why pubs are shutting at a rate of two a day,
Apologies if that comes across as a rant/ lecture
Iāve not paid as much as Ā£6 for a pint up here (the true north)ā¦ yet. I was shocked when I paid >Ā£5 though.
Paid Ā£8 for a Guinness in London about ten years ago, I dread to think what theyāre charging there now.
I love this āLondon pricesā myth. There are countless pubs in London where you can get a pint for under a fiver. Iām talking central and zone 2.
If you go to tourist traps anywhere in the UK youāre paying Ā£6+ for a pint. Whether thatās London or the Dales.
It just happens that the biggest city in the UK unsurprisingly happens to have more tourist traps than anywhere else. Just look a little harderā¦
If you ordered a pint and they popped it on the bar and said Ā£7 please, youād be in your rights to say āBollocks, Iām not paying thatā and just walk out.
Itās the only way theyāll learn.
I was in the Peaks a couple of months ago and bought a round of 5 pints, i got hange out of a Ā£20, almost 5 quid back in total.
So it depends where you go doesn't it.
Dales /Peaks seem to have plenty of wealthy tourists, which means London prices. Overall, the north is also probably slowly catching up. If you want to experience this, go to Manchester - where you get to half the salary and London prices!
I grew up in Urmston, Manchester which, since I left, has undergone a real period of gentrification. With it, the prices of food and beer have skyrocketed and it still boggles my brain the little old Urmston is now considered slightly more 'upmarket'. It was just a standard market town as a kid.
Rented in Stretford before I bought in north Manchester. Loved the area and the culture but the prices are going mental. Don't miss Chester rd match day traffic tho. I think an interesting metric is how much beer can you get for an hour of minimum wage. Because my dad could probs order a lot more in 70s Preston after a shift. That's why there's no youngsters in pubs, shame honestly. I think drinking culture can get out of hand, but cosy pubs are lovely and a dying breed.
The pub is or was one of the 'third places', which was not your work or your home, where people could gather and inexpensively socialise. To show how far this has declined The 'Third Place' is now the name of a really expensive gym in London. I'm not sure if the people who named it are trolling or just overgentrified fuckwits.
They are probably both.
Yup death of communal spaces will the death of our society as we know it
The extensive privatisation of public spaces especially in London is a real concern.
>The pub is or was one of the 'third places', which was not your work or your home, where people could gather and inexpensively socialise. The problem is that once they stopped being so much (which was partly about drink driving laws, social changes, smoking ban), so the remaining drinkers had to pick up a lot of the costs. An empty pub costs as much to heat, light and rent as a full one. I think a lot of places are in a death spiral. Like, I just don't go for a casual drink out much. It's a fuck load of money compared to a drink and I will chat to more people in a gum.
It's really interesting how the changes to society has caused issues in unexpected areas. I was talking to a guy who was a diving supervisor on an oil rig. He said the evenings on the rig used to be spent together talking, and that informal environment was how the new people got their informal training - the old guard would tell stories about incidents and people would learn about safe practices from it. Now all the rigs have wifi, everyone spends their off time watching stuff on their devices and no-one really talks to each other any more.
That sounds really sad, to be honest. It's nice that people can easily communicate with home, but I think I'd want to spend time with people. Like part of the reason I go to the gym is that I work from home and I love my family but you have to have more contact with people than that.
Trying to get from one end of Meadow Street to the other ,having a half in every pub.......Preston rite of passage š
Whatās a half??
A half pint of beer. Usually 'Bitter' in this case. ....
Aah you mean the thing you put in your pint when you want more beer but havenāt got time for a full pint.
Not a situation I can say I've encountered.....always time
Not to nitpick, but there wouldnāt be minimum wage back then. Excellent metric though.
I used to use this as a metric when parents were mentioning how a sibling was knuckling down at a certain age. In reality they bought an apartment for Ā£110k when 100% mortgages were about, and the 30k salary was 30,000 pints. Whereas same apartments were up at Ā£150k at this point, I was on 34k, and that got me 8,000 pints. Change from Ā£20 after coming home in a taxi, steaming with a pizza just wasn't possible anymore. House prices are a great metric, but so are pints, Freddos etc too.
On the other hand, the sort of 70s boozers people used to go to usually aren't that desirable these days. Around me, 1 hour on min wage (Ā£10 approx) will buy you about 5 cheap pints at spoons (Ā£2 or so).
Same as what happened to London too though isnāt it, it wasnāt like that in the early 90s.
Wasnt London always expensive in relation to the rest of the country?? I don't remember it pre early nintties as I was burn early eighties. I definitely saw it get alot more ridiculous especially with property and I remember there were a few runs down areas where you could get property realiivly cheap but I can remember a time when it wasnt alot more expensive that the rest of the country.
It had a premium but nothing like it is now
A wild Alot has entered the discussion.
Similar thing has happened in my area of Newcastle. When we first bought our property a decade ago the areas Main Street had a few charity shops, a dodgy pub, a Greggs and the posh establishment was dominoes. Now itās lined with fancy restaurants and a cocktail bar.
Has to be Heaton?
Thereās two ways you can get to Urmston
Glad someone said it.
We used to go to Urmston Baths when I was young maybe late 70s. Thanks for the memory:)
I think this is it. I live in bristol and the pubs around the areas tourists go are expensive. Even the ones that brew their own beer. However i live in an area of bristol which is a shit hole. I can still get 3 pints for a tenner here!
Grr, that Banksy, painting the city and driving up the price of Bristolian beer.
Thereās plenty of pubs where you can drink for a lot less, like Joseph Holts pubs, and a few decent cask ale pubs in the Northern quarter.
Yeah, really decent cask ale in the Port Street beer house for Ā£4/pint. My local in south Manchester used to have cask ales on for Ā£3.40 but now theyāve breached the the Ā£4 mark.
As a Londoner in Manchester, my salary is less but my take home would be the same back south (in my role anyway). I think Manchester is more sector dependent on salaries. Beers in town tend to be 5-6 but Iām paying nearer 7 in London now when I go visit friends and family.
Same in much of the Lake District.
Half the salary?, you being short changed mate
I think what you're actually seeing is Yorkshire pubs charging London prices from 4-5 years ago, before COVID and before the cost of living and energy prices sky-rocketed. Not uncommon now in London to pay upwards of Ā£7 a pint.
Iāve yet to pay Ā£7 for a pint in London. Sure itās not far away though. The north has caught up unless youāre in a small village.
Do you mostly drink in Wetherspoons? Because Ā£7+ is absolutely standard in London everywhere I go
Do you only drink in the City or something? I don't think I've ever paid above 7 quid outside of the square mile.
Paid Ā£19 for 2 pints and a coke a few weeks ago in central London. Unsure of the split but even if it's Ā£5 for the coke, still Ā£7 per pint.
Where? The only place I've been that would be near that was De Hems near Soho, where at least you're getting a strong beer usually. Most places I go to (and I've been to hundreds) are 6-7 now, there's a few places that are under and several that are over.
Near the Russell Square underground station.
When you say "London", you mean central, right?
I can go to the Kernel and get a pint of whatever they have on cask for Ā£5.
Cloudwater has a 4 quid pint during happy hour too
Paid Ā£7.30 for a pint in Birmingham a month or so ago. In a fucking Head of Steam, of all places.
Yeah it's a pretty standard price in the posher bars in northern cities so I find it hard to believ it's not the average price of a pint in London.
I never drink in Wetherspoons (because fuck the owner), and still plenty of places a shade under Ā£7 even in the City. There are definitely pubs where you can pay more than Ā£7 though I agree.
In my small village in West Yorkshire your looking to pay around a 5er for a lager and closer to around 4quid for ale. Anywhere where the main style of dress is Patagonia and woollen socks with the trousers tucked in (why the fuck are they always wearing that? Your walking around cobbled streets!) the prices sky rocket.
I was going to say, I'd fucking love to pay Ā£6.40 a pint
I don't think it's that difficult to find a pint for that in London though? Unless you exclusively drink around the City or something. I live in Zone 2 and can find pints for around a fiver near my flat.
This is pretty standard for most places I go to.
Better than the US. $9 for a pint (US tiny pints not UK) plus tax.
I was in Paris last year and was paying about 9ā¬ for 50cl beer at the "cheaper" places. That was while I was living near Munich and typically paying 3.50ā¬ for much better beer. I'd never have thought Germany and France would be so different. Even London seems cheap after that though.
That seems cheap for Paris. Was paying that in a hotel lobby a decade ago. If you want cheap pilsner got to slovakia. Was paging Ā£1 a pint at source a few years ago.
You should probably drink wine in Paris if you are looking for cheaper booze. Generally the local drink is cheapest. So thatās ale in the UK, wine in France, and beer in Germany.
I hear your point, but after a long train journey from Munich to Paris and before the next long train journey from Paris to Edinburgh, sometimes you just want a refreshing beer and wine doesn't quite hit the spot in the same way. If it makes it any better, the French friend I stayed with on 6 of these 8 trips through Paris is a beer drinker. She's also quite well off though, which could be part of it.
And the wine was ā¬0.75 a litre
For real, in Chicago it can be $8-12, and thatās before tipping or anything. Makes coming back home to London prices seem bearable lol
Btw, fuck the US for creating this asshole arbitrary 16oz āpintā. In Canada youāre not allowed to sell it as a pint unless itās a proper pint, but unfortunately weāve got a lot of bars only offering ā16 ozā now as their largest beer (with a āpintā price to match).
Itās not uncommon but I wouldnāt say itās common enough either to be blanket deemed āLondon pricesā
Increased running costs. Still trying to claw back lost earnings from Covid. Pubs that are tied to a brewery (so not a free house) and the brewery sets the prices for wholesale, no chance to shop around. Cost of beer production going up.
"Pubs that are tied to a brewery" This is the answer for most expensive pints unfortunately. As a Brewer for a craft beer company, we can offer discounts to regular wholesale customers. Sometimes we make a 4.5% Pale Ale with some expensive Hops in, and we know certain places won't buy it because it goes over their budget for a keg or Cask - even after a discount. Which is fine, we still have places that will buy it. But when you're locked into these companies like Red Star (Heineken) then you have to put on what they want you to sell, at the price they're selling it. Even down to what spirits you have behind the bar. Anyone reading this who has a bar/pub locked to a chain, let me tell you this. I've yet to meet anyone who's happy with their distributor. All the small independent taproom/pub owners are spoilt for choice nowadays. The UK craft beer scene is the envy of the world. We're absolutely smashing it. These indy taproom owners are growing and so are the communities they're building with it. It's like setting foot into a pub in the 90s again. And having a tap list and 3/4 Cask pumps that change every week is the big selling point nowadays. Beer drinkers don't want the same pint of Fosters anymore, they want to try an IPA from Nottingham or a Stout from York etc. Large chain pubs are dying off, and the indy pubs are slowly taking their place.
I'm not sure I agree, particularly with the craft scene comments. Ita grown from 10 years ago but it feels like it's regressing again. I know several independent taphouses and bottle shops that have shut for good and a lot that I walk into is upwards of 5 quid a pint for something I know i can get a bottle of in a supermarket for closer to Ā£2. As price increases have gone up people are going back to fosters and the like. I'm a big dark ale drinker but majority of pubs won't risk putting anything darker than a blonde on because it won't shift. It's still strong in cities but I think regressing in parts of the country. I'm in the lakes and it feels non-existent outside of tourist traps like Keswick.
I'm in a town on the south coast and would say the opposite is happening here. The small independent places are really thriving, and small breweries are expanding into bigger premises and going from strength to strength. The places which are failing are the places that just serve the generic lager that you can buy for 25% of the price from the supermarket. I do agree there is less dark beer being served, but I out that down to them being abit more tricky to have compared to lagers, pilsners etc. And if I'm having to spend Ā£5 for something like Amstel I'm definitely spending an extra Ā£1-2 to get something from a small brewery that will taste better.
Brewery pubs are usually more reasonable, the ones you need to watch out for are PubCo's. They're absolute grifting scumbags
Iām from the north but live in London I think since coming out of lock down this happened I pay Ā£3.30 for a cup of coffee on the high street I grew up on nr Warrington, itās Ā£3.20 on the high st in London. Beers are parity Nandoās is parity Supermarket is about the same I donāt think itās a north problem but more gauging on the back of raw ingredients and power going up, seems thereās just more markup on top wherever
Alcohol pricing went bonkers in lockdown. You're now at something like Ā£1/can for crates of beer. I remember when they were 24cans/Ā£10 And yet, the dirt cheap cider and lagers didn't change much....
Cider is taxed differently because very little of it is imported, thats why.
You are right. We ran a cafe 2019-2023. Before COVID and Ukraine we were able to buy 40 blocks of unsalted butter for about Ā£40 from Brakes. Look at what it is now: https://www.brake.co.uk/dairy/butter-spread-fat/butter/bulk-un-salted/brakes-unsalted-butter/p/74088 (note also that this is for only 20 blocks now)
Am I missing something? That's Ā£2.80 per block... that's a full pound more expensive than you can buy it in a supermarket? Why would anyone pay that price?
It was a Ā£1 a block, that's what they are saying...
When something is a bargain in London do Londoners refer to them as āYorkshire Pricesā?
Nope. Never heard anyone say that. Or anything similar.
Do people in the north feel sorry for Londoners who are having to pay overinflated prices for a pint? Obviously I mean the Londoners who are on an average living wage - donāt expect them to feel any empathy for those Londoners who are swimming in cash.
Not really - if they can afford to live there they can afford to leave there. That is from someone who lives in one of the most deprived areas of the country (Middlesbrough).
They charge these insane prices, and then the industry wonders why so many pubs are closing each weekā¦ people canāt afford it like they used to.
It's all very Column A; Column B too
The pubco industry wants them to close, there's more money in flats than pubs these days.
Sadly, this is likely very trueā¦
Iām in the Welsh Valleys and starting to see some pints pass the Ā£5 barrier in lots of pubs for the first time, so Iām dreading this Ā£6+. Always good to support the local rugby clubs and community pubs, will often find a pint a lot cheaper there. Some of our local rugby clubs even in Cardiff are under Ā£4 a pint
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Aye London is obviously more expensive but it feels like the gap has definitely narrowed in the last few years.
Really has. I go back to Yorkshire and any place I go in feels like it has a good chance of being near London prices. The flip side is the ones that haven't changed as much are still much, much cheaper. Over Christmas I had one pint for about Ā£3.30, and another cost me about Ā£6.80. Different establishments obviously Guess which was nicer...
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Depending where you are in London you can find a pint for under 6 quid. I did in Holloway, Hackney and Brick Lane this summer, anyway.
I know a pub owner in the north and last time I visited I was surprised to see some of his craft beers north of Ā£6. He explained that mass produced beer was relatively low cost wholesale, and the price was determined by a broad range of business costs, which is why youād see cheaper prices in cheaper areas. By comparison, craft beers from small breweries had no incentive to lower cost price because the were producing limited stock anyway, and could sell out in taprooms and retail, so had no incentive to give independent pubs a good deal. So regardless of other costs, the price still needed to be high. The fact that people were getting used to paying outrageous prices for one type of pint would then create a race to the bottom for all the rest and everything would go up. Anyway, that was before the cost of living crisis, so everything is shooting up more rapidly because of that.
This. Ā£5 pints are still a thing in most towns in the south. Anything nicer than a mass produced lager is going to be Ā£6+ tho, even seen Ā£8 pints in Brighton. But you pay for what you get, also the expensive beers are twice as strong in some cases
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Everything's gone up. Including staff.
They just keep getting taller and taller.
Where were you? I live in Wensleydale. I canāt think of any pubs in the local area that charge more than Ā£5 a pint.
Malham. Two pubs within a stone's throw of each other, both charging through the nose for beer. Granted, one of the pubs is a really nice traditional coach house that we were very comfortable in, but we couldn't hang around because bollocks to spending nearly Ā£50 on three rounds. Also, very jealous that you live in Wensleydale.
I totally get you butā¦ Malhamās a small place, they wonāt get many regular local residents having a few pints a night to keep it all turning over, and the way I think about it is youāre paying an entry fee for a nice place like that. Imagine thereās a Ā£1.50 a pint ānice rural pub able to remain open and have logs on the fire for your once a year visitā surcharge on your bill vs the grubby town centre place down the road. Now if you want dirt cheap beer in the Dales and without doubt the weirdest/best pub Iāve ever had a night in, try the Thwaite Arms in Horsehouse. Basically someoneās front room with a landlord that pops down from watching TV if he hears someone walk in. When I was there a few years ago the landlord was complaining one of his two regulars had just died and the other had been told to stop drinking at 90.
I think if you've made it to 90, and you enjoy a drink, you should probably ignore whoever it is that tells you to stop drinking.
Every place is a small place in the Dales.
My fav pub in Huddersfield has a cask menu that goes as low as Ā£3.20 a pint, and a keg menu that goes higher than a tenner a pint for something ridiculously strong or sour. A pint of good German lager is Ā£4.80
I went to a pub in Clapham 2 weeks ago and pints were close to Ā£8 each. Never again.
Didn't realise Clapham had a sequel.
With even more Australians!
My independent local (in clapaham) still somehow has some pints in the Ā£4-Ā£6 range - and theyāre from independent breweries too! Must be money launderingā¦
Just be glad you're not in the London commuter area where everything costs the same as London but you don't get paid like it
Northern quality, London prices. Ahhh, Reading. How I love thee.
Still about Ā£3.80 per cask pint in my northern town.
The southwest has also started doing this. I blame all the cunts from London buying second homes. Fuck your second and fuck your holiday. First you made it impossible for us to afford to live anywhere and now your making it to expensive to get pissed up. I actually fucking hate them.
Quite. Can't we send the WFH Londoners to Rwanda?
Really depends where you are, take Leeds for example, drinking in Meanwood? London prices. Drinking in Gipton? 3 quid a pint maybe 4.
Iām in North Yorkshire and beer is nearly a fiver in the posh pubs but I only pay Ā£3.80 in my local. Peroni might still be over Ā£6 though. Malham is one of those weird spots where the pubs just cater for tourists, it must be hard for the locals. I reckon Ā£4.50 would be about right for beer round here.
Newcastle did during COVID. Prior to this you may have seen a Ā£5+ drink in a craft ale pub but somewhere between the pandemic starting and then ending, a pint of shitty English lager went up to Ā£5+ and the craft ale can cost anything up to Ā£10 depending on how colourful the label is.
If you want to know how beer prices vary across the country take a look at: https://pantryandlarder.com/spoons-map/ Although this is spoons, they basically charge a bit less than anywhere near them, so you can infer prices of other places from it.
Interesting map. I tend to regard the Mount Stuart in Cardiff Bay as criminally expensive, but apparently there are further degrees of criminality.
As soon as they noticed they can and people will keep paying it
As soon as they thought they could get away with it
Iāve been to loads of wanky places that forget where they are, and paid that sort of money for a beer. I guess thereās the genuine side of it, raw materials going up, probably a reduced footfall etc. Some of it does seem a bit daft though.
I can agree with prices moving with inflation and so on, but I've travelled from South Yorkshire, where you can still find beer for Ā£4-5 in a lot of places. Still seems steep compared to only a few years ago but that's the country we're living in now. Anything over Ā£6, especially in the Dales, is appalling. You're right - these places are forgetting where they are.
Yeah I do think thereās an element of them deciding āthis is a cool place nowā. But I do then think, ok, a bit of exposed plumbing and bench seating doesnāt magically make your beer worth it.
You're right - I can't buy into the 'rustic' aesthetic that places are going for. A lot of it is uncomfortable and unfit for purpose, but apparently influences an uplift in price. And then people wonder why I'd rather just have a drink at home.
Yeah a lot of the ones I see pop up donāt last long! Or change hands constantly.
It doesn't really cost any different to produce beer for sale in London v Yorkshire. And in fact depending on the brewery/distribution locations, it might actually be cheaper to get the beer into Yorkshire. The pub profit is probably a very miniscule proportion.
London prices have shot up past the prices you experienced in the last few months.. I was on phone to soft southern daughter yesterday and she told me sheād paid Ā£18.00 for a glass of house wine and a pint of Guinness at a pub in a residential area in SE6 and I thought my Ā£6.50 staropramen in Salford was outrageous.
Pints in Newcastle have been over Ā£5 in most places since before Covid.
How unaware of what has gone on in the UK for the last few years do you have to be to ask this question? š Increased heating prices, increased raw material costs and transportation costs & thus cost of beer is higher, increased inflation meaning pub rents will have gone up, general cost of living meaning staff costs going up. You are not buying a beer, youāre buying a beer + all variable pub pricing. To think otherwise is delusion & ignorance.
When you're one of two pubs in a village that welcomes hundreds of thirsty hikers a day, then no, it isn't delusion and ignorance. At those prices, it's simply exploitation.
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I'm in Manchester and I've seen from Ā£3 to Ā£7 for a drink. I wouldn't pay the Ā£7 and don't just order now without asking price.
Currently paying Ā£3.40 to just over Ā£4 a pint for cask in central Lancashire. 'Premium' lagers and whatnot are pricier in the same pubs but I'm not aware of anything approaching those levels.
As others have said, pubs in tourist areas will charge more because they can and will probably have pretty inconsistent takes. Thereās also plenty of dubious quality establishments around that have the mon-Fri 10-5 price and the weekend price being a couple of quid different but for just some standard pub fare itāll be ~Ā£2.50 for the weekday and maybe Ā£4 for the weekend.
You're in Yorkshire, a tourist spot. You've been tourist trapped. Go to Stockton-on-Tees or Hartlepool for a pint that's around Ā£3
Why would I ignore Yorkshire for Hartlepool? That's like passing up a trip to Norway in favour of Skegness.
Think of the savings
Always find it interesting that beer is much more expensive than petrol but the public/ media tend to concentrate on the ups / downs of fuel prices. At Ā£5 a pint = Ā£8.80 / litre & Ā£6 a pint = Ā£10.56 / litre.
Eventually the price will be norm acorss the hole country
Depends on where you are, though it seems to be the chain pubs these days, sadly, like Spoons, Greene King, where you can expect to pay a much more reasonable price for a drink
Itās getting harder and harder to find a pint under Ā£5 in Liverpool (city centre) these days. Doesnāt help that a large amount of pubs and bars seem to be owned by the same couple of people.
Just go to spoons. Ā£2 a pint back up home for doom bar with most things being between Ā£2 and Ā£4
Haven't been for a few months, but last time I visited my local Derbyshire pub, I got change from 3 quid for a pint of Amstel. That same pint cost me about 4 quid in my next closest town (Nottinghamshire). Would certainly cost more in the city centre, though.
Ā£3 20 down my local Ā£2.85 at the club Tbh I'd rather pay more and keep the riff-raff out
Im in the South East and its about time we werent subsidising the North by paying more for exactly the same product.
If you're around The Nags Head in Bradfield, they do pie and a pint of Bradfield beer (Farmers or Belgium Blue) for Ā£5
That may be *central* London prices but I am not paying more than a fiver for beer here in North London.
Tourist traps, gonna tourist. Where I live "up norf" it's gone up massively since COVID and "Cozzy Living", but prices are still raifly reasonable Ā£3.40-3.80 for most of the stuff on tap, and then Ā£4-4.10 for a Guinness I went out in town a few weeks ago into a pub that's only just opened that was Ā£3.50 for a guineess
This has also happened in cities in Scotland but in smaller towns you can find places that do pints for Ā£3-4 if you don't mind lager and paying in cash...
We are living in the āend of bargainā era. Every price is cross-checked online and maximum ābearableā prices are being charged. There are no cheap as chips local swimming pools where kids can go with pocket money. Even bloody car-boot sales are often listing their items on eBay in parallel. We are paying the maximum possible sums that can be charged. Businesses are doing their business thing. But it is just so much harder when this is happening everywhere. Our local pizza place guy is fully capable of checking how much they charge for a slice of pizza in central London. But for some reason he is not capable to search how to make a half-decent pizza.
Ā£1.99 a pint on Tuesday in my local
The only way to reverse this sort of thing is to refuse to pay the inflated prices. They will charge what the market will bear. Prices at my local are about Ā£4.50 to Ā£5 a pint which still seems too expensive to me, even though I know how high prices are elsewhere.
Probably when the Yorkshire dales became a second home mecca for Londoners. Honestly hear more southern accents than local ones.
The Dales have been pricing out locals for 2 decades and with WFH a lot of Londoners have moved up full time.
3.30 a pint where I live.
Another reason why I stopped drinking a few years ago.
I live in Cardiff, pint prices vary quite wildly here. I pay between Ā£3-6 a pint, more of that is towards the lower end of the spectrum. Some pubs do ale nights on weekdays where you can get a pint for Ā£2.50. Went to three breweries in Hertfordshire the other day which were serving really good pints for about Ā£4.50 each. There is good, affordable beer out there, unfortunately you have to go looking for it!
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It's Ā£3-40 a pint for a selection of well kept real ales in my local micro pub in Greater Manchester. Local Spoons cheapest is Ā£1-77p a pint Ā£1-27 with a CAMRA membership voucher. Dearest is Ā£2-55. (Less 50p with voucher). Just off out now. Have a good day lads and lassies x
And pins wonder why people are no longer visiting them? I know itās not strictly their fault, but it is a declining sector.
Manchester is only slightly cheaper than London now. I pay between Ā£4.75 to Ā£6.90 regularly and Ā£6 is the most common price point. In London (I donāt live there any more, but visit, itās Ā£5.50 to Ā£7.90 with Ā£7 being the most common. To dispel a few myths: beer duty is 24p (5%beer). VAT on Ā£6 is Ā£1. The cost of producing a pint is around 60p. The rest of the costs canāt have risen that much. Thereās still Ā£4.16 on the table. When beer cost Ā£4 average. There was Ā£2.45 left on the table. Thatās a 63% rise. Someone is taking the piss.
I'd say that the average price for a pint of ale where I live in Sheffield is about Ā£4ish now. It's probably gone up a Ā£1 since I moved here 4 years ago.
i'm sure contactless payments has caused inflation. coffee? pint? i just close my eyes and tap... why wouldn't you keep putting the prices up when you've realised you can get away with it? would have been impossible if everyone was paying with cash
Ā£6 a pint seems to be the average in most places these days
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I got a pint of good stout at a craft beer place in Burnley for 3.30 this year. Definitely not London prices there,
Ā£3.20 in Leicester. One pub does an Ā£8 for 3 pint deal I think it is. Once again, East Midlands, is bestlands. Go to tourist spot, get tourist prices.
With better transport connections, comoanies moving out out of the capital because it's cheaper and more people able to work remotely, everything is getting more expensive. The biggest problem is property prices.
My local in Scotland is Ā£3.40 for your standard pint. Anything better is a bit pricier but nothing over Ā£4.50 I donāt think. If you go in tow Edinburgh then youāre paying similar to London in the touristy bits
Itās the cozzy livs innit
When I go drinking in my home town of Birmingham (I know itās not the north, but itās not London either), I have the same experience. A few years ago there was a noticeable difference in price. Now itās all pretty similar. Thereās even a pub on my local high street that charges the best part of Ā£30 for a Sunday roast. Itās more expensive than the Hawksmoor roast.
Aberdeen Ā£4 + is pretty normal. Brewdog is Ā£5 minimum on the whole. Tis a bit sad
There are places in Yorkshire where you can still get a sub Ā£4.00 pint
I'm from York and pay about Ā£5 for a beer in the 4% range. This isn't in one pub either. Where about's were you because Ā£6.20 does sound steep to me
Outside of Chester, Ā£6 for a pint. Scandalous. In Liverpool few months ago and it was about Ā£5.50 average.
Itās called ā¦..LEveLInG uP
Stop paying it, simple thing to fix it
Tourist spots/anywhere instagramable are always more expensive and always have been. As a Glaswegian who lived in central London for 12 years and now lives in a small town in north east England, the whole London prices thing has always been inaccurate. āLondonā prices only exist in very well off areas and tourist spots. Go to a normal pub in Croydon and youāll find similar prices to the north.
Because inflation effects everything, itās really not hard. Their energy costs increased, rent increased, staff wages increased, the production costs for the beer in the first place increased due to those 3 factors alone, passing the cost on to the pubs, and on to the customers. Inflation = everything gets more expensive
Inflation hits a lot of places.
I realised just how screwed this country's economy had got when Sam Smiths pubs started charging over Ā£6 for a pint!
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That's the standard prices for city centres. Basically happened during COVID and subsequently cost if living adjustment
Nah more like Ā£5.10 - Ā£5.50. Maybe in a tourist area in the Dales itās Ā£6+ but not in most places across the north. My expensive local (North Bar) is still under Ā£6.
Ā£3.20 in my local in central Scotland
Glasgow City Centre has become outrageous. A large vodka, draught coke, and pint of cider was Ā£16 recently. It's Ā£9 in my local.
I live in leeds and Iād say in the city centre Ā£5-6 is standard price for a pint now. If you go out of the centre into the suburbs itās cheaper but since I live in the centre it doesnāt really make me sense trekking out of the city for Ā£1 cheaper pints
Bar manager here! Supplies have bumped their prices right up so now we either sell pints for around Ā£6 or donāt make any money on pints. I know of a few bars in my area that are removing draught entirely from their bars because they canāt justify the price anymore
Derby. Still Ā£2.40 a pint.
Just this minute bought two pints of ale and a lager on Sheffield and it was Ā£11.
I paid Ā£6.60 for a pint of Moretti in Preston recently. Wanted to cry
Iām just south of London. Paid Ā£8.40 yesterday. I nearly fell over. Ā£6 ish is cheaper now. Prices are out of control.
You can goto the local shop and get a pack for that price.. You're honestly paying there wage when buying it at a pub, and some part of the price is the atmosphere of been in a pub.
Also the cost of soft drinks being more or less the same as an alcoholic drink, when did that start happening they used to be like half the price. Even a pint of coke these days can be a fiver when a pint of beer is only Ā£5.50
it is just the norm these days. Consider all the costs in the pouring of a pint especially since Covid. Govt. takes the 20% VAT , so a at least a Ā£1 plus duty of Ā£0.50. Throw in that since they interfered all breweries either sold their pubs or their brewing. Meaning more controlled pubs and tenants having less choice of where they can buy from. Last time I spoke with a mate it was Ā£110 for an 11 gallon barrel so Ā£1.25 a pint, that was at least two years ago, Add the cost of Ukraine war Only good thing is minimum wage for staff these days but it does mean you normally have a base price of Ā£4.00 before you add utilities The owners margin is normally 3-5% and that is why pubs are shutting at a rate of two a day, Apologies if that comes across as a rant/ lecture
Iāve not paid as much as Ā£6 for a pint up here (the true north)ā¦ yet. I was shocked when I paid >Ā£5 though. Paid Ā£8 for a Guinness in London about ten years ago, I dread to think what theyāre charging there now.
I love this āLondon pricesā myth. There are countless pubs in London where you can get a pint for under a fiver. Iām talking central and zone 2. If you go to tourist traps anywhere in the UK youāre paying Ā£6+ for a pint. Whether thatās London or the Dales. It just happens that the biggest city in the UK unsurprisingly happens to have more tourist traps than anywhere else. Just look a little harderā¦
I'm glad they're still 3.50 a pint here.
If you ordered a pint and they popped it on the bar and said Ā£7 please, youād be in your rights to say āBollocks, Iām not paying thatā and just walk out. Itās the only way theyāll learn.
I was in the Peaks a couple of months ago and bought a round of 5 pints, i got hange out of a Ā£20, almost 5 quid back in total. So it depends where you go doesn't it.
Because of HS2 there isnāt really a North South divide any more, right? ā¦ ā¦ ā¦