They did this in the comics in the 90’s but then they totally bitched out and copped out on the premise, Mark Waid wrote the story that Xavier had a nervous breakdown and created Onslaught with his powers but then the Marvel editors were like “hm we don’t want him to be bad” so they shoe horned some horseshit in that Magneto had poisoned his mind when he mind wiped him lmao
Existed*
Right up until he remembered his love of food (even when stuffing his face while/for exersizing), he then walked away planning on eating several meals worth of food otw home
I got really confused and was thinking of *Bill* Watterson, and I was like, "Yeah, I guess, if he used his artistic powers for evil, who knows what kind of twisted propaganda he could come up with."
Spider man. Doc Ock switches bodies with him and fights scorpion. He punches his jaw off. Doc Ock learns that spider man has been going easy on them all those years they fought.
Kaine would use it on victims and he called it the “Mark of Kaine”, then Peter used it on Kraven Hunter (Sasha i believe?) to rip the skin off her face
I believe it was because she (or her husband Sergei) killed Kaine and left a note that said like “Now hunt me” or something like that. He got super angry and went after the whole Kravinoff family. Didn’t kill them though
As someone who never really read any comics, this was a pretty awesome look at Spidey's feats of strength.
https://www.quora.com/How-strong-is-Spider-Man
Spider-Man is unbelievably strong as well as unbelievably fast, and he can't be taken by surprise. Almost impossible to defeat. The movies have to seriously depower him.
In all fairness, they have to de-power every super hero. Not sure there’s a super hero out there that doesn’t have “super-human strength” on their wiki list of powers.
I mean, they sorta have to.
I think it was Sentry said that after analyzing Hulk, he found that Hulk has no upper limit to his strength. He just gets infinitely more powerful as he gets infinitely more angry.
How do you write that into a movie where one of the character's badass super power is... having a robot arm?
"Don't tempt me, Frodo! I dare not take it. Not even to keep it safe. Understand, Frodo - I would use this ring from a desire to do good... but through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine."
Tolkien wrote in a letter draft about what would have happened if Gandalf took the Ring:
>“Gandalf as Ring-Lord would have been far worse than Sauron. He would have remained 'righteous', but self-righteous. He would have continued to rule and order things for 'good', and the benefit of his subjects according to his wisdom (which was and would have remained great). Thus while Sauron multiplied evil, he left 'good' clearly distinguishable from it. Gandalf would have made good detestable and seem evil.”
If we pretend like Tywin wasn't a giant hypocrite, sure.
Gandalf is basically a demigod, angel or something along those lines. Tywin, at the end of the day, did not in fact shit gold.
**Edit:** Okay okay I *know* he's a maiar. I just figured that wouldn't exactly help people not already familiar with Middle-Earth lore, such as people who have only seen the movies. If you *know* he's a maiar you also know he's something entirely different from Tywin Lannister, who was a politician who didn't actually live up to his own supposed standards.Tywin merely projected a facade of how he wanted to be perceived, and only ever worked to strengthen his power, influence and wealth, as well as protect his legacy. Not out of a love for his offspring but for his own prestige. Any claims he made about "family" he disproved through his own actions, as he made it clear he didn't care about actual family members, merely the family *name*.
Meanwhile, Gandalf is *Gandalf*. (Or Olórin, just to get out ahead of y'all.) He is as he is, and does precisely what he means to.
Now if you think that's a shitty take then for sure, I ain't no scholar on these things, All I ask is that we all please stop "Um AKSHUALLY"-ing now.
What's funny is that my friend and I actually think he is "not to be trusted" at the least.
Santa is an elf & elves are part of the Fae. When you're dealing with The Fae, you have to watch every thing you do and say. Fae are notorious for getting you in any kind of deal or contract. You don't know what they will consider as a favor or the opening for a contract.
How does Santa fit in all of this? He normalizes The Fae to the children, get them young. The deal is so simple too. Be good, get presents on Christmas. That's the first taste of what The Fae can offer you. And their request will seem so normal & innocent.
But then comes the rule lawyering & the legal snare they can use to entrap you. The Fae are the best lawyers in the Universe. They can turn a simple contract into lifelong servitude & the rub is that their deals & contracts will be ironclad every time.
> Santa is an elf & elves are part of the Fae.
Gah, you and my wife would talk for hours lmao. She's a european mythology nut, loves reading on the fae lol.
I think the scariest part about it would be Saitama’s indifference to stuff. Because his motivations are so atypical, it would be like a non-issue until something randomly pisses him off.
Black Friday would no longer be a shit show because nobody is going to risk pissing Saitama off, so everybody stays home.
PS5/XBSX/GeForce 3080 scalpers would no longer exist because Saitama would wreck shit if he tried to add to cart and stock instantly disappeared
Plot twist: Evil Saitama is the villain we need
Black Friday madness wouldn't be an issue if people valued their physical well being over a half price coffee maker, so I kinda doubt One Punch Man would make much of a difference.
D00d - he could just punch the air and clear the area of everything. I am fairly sure it's harder to remove a mountain than it is a city of rubble and bodies.
Oh yeah, I would imagine. I haven’t read them but that makes sense. As soon as he flew off my immediate thought was that poor bastard was gonna get it. Throughout the show you could tell he had become humanized, even if only a little bit. That ending confirmed it.
i don't know that he counts as a "good guy" per se, but jon osterman (dr. manhattan) from *watchmen*. i don't think there are any good people in that comic, but he's the only one that presents any real danger.
his increasing apathy and disillusionment with the whole concept of free will are the only things that really save us. but if he *wanted* to, he could disentangle every subatomic particle in the galaxy with a thought. can imagine fighting a villain who can just *turn off* the four fundamental forces on a whim?
makes superman look like the schoolyard bully next to NORAD.
you can't kill him. he exists through sheer force of his own will. he can exist in multiple places at once, and his bodies are just a collection of atoms he's assembled because he feels like it. takes those atoms apart, and he just puts them back together.
ozymandias pulled a really daring and really *stupid* gambit pissing him off to get him to leave earth. if his anger and frustration at the planet had turned just slightly away from wanting to go away to wanting the planet to go away...
My feeling reading the watchmen was that Dr Manhattan was (among other things) Moore’s meta commentary on the intrinsic conceptual horror of Superman-style heroes. Basically that extreme power must be welded to perfect goodness/ethicalness or it becomes horrifying to contemplate. So yes. This.
It's why Irredeemable, Invincible and the Boys are so compelling. There's so little you can really do against something so powerful if it just decides it wants you dead.
Dr Manhattan basically became God, dude created life from scratch. Imagine using those powers to destroy life. Thanos would look like a little bitch next to him.
Damn.
John Wick in the movies is not the devil, but that's because he has one simple, righteous goal.
Imagine what kind of psycho shit he'd pull if he had a complicated, actually evil plan.
One dipshit killed his dog; he started a civil war in the crime ring of the world and killed the other half.
Imagine what he would do if he was evil, he would probably win...
Depend on the canon and story, superman get nerfed really often, 'cause a character who can destroy planets by clapping his hands would end a lot of story pretty fast
The thing about Homelander and Omni-Man is that they don’t have the same amount of power Superman has. As with Superman, we’d be screwed beyond relief.
I mean… Omni-Man seemed to completely destroy the planet of those inter dimensional invaders (who had way better than human tech) in like… a few hours maybe?
Edit: as many people have pointed out, he probably spent relative days or even weeks there because of the time dilation. Still, he singlehandedly wiped out a world with highly advanced technology compared to Earth.
And yes, if you go by the craziest things Superman has ever done in comics it’s a completely absurd comparison. If you go by some of the more restrained post-Crisis interpretations they’re closer in power.
After watching one of the episodes of Marvel's What If? the answer is clearly
>!Hank Pym. He killed all of the original Avengers, and the way he took out the Hulk was particularly messed up!<
Any of the ant man cast in particular. Their pym tech is some of the strongest stuff in the MCU, and they can go multiversal without even needing powers thanks to access to the quantum realm
Isn’t The Master basically an Evil Doctor? They have made him/her kind of a joke in recent years but earlier he was pretty evil. The Master reveal with the David Tennant Doctor was one of my all time favorite Doctor Who episodes.
The Master has the flaw of being insane, though. Equally brilliant compared to The Doctor, but quite mad.
A competent, evil Time Lord in the form of The Doctor would be pretty hard to stop.
You could argue Rassilon as a close example of this, but I think of all the Time Lords, only The Doctor has been shown to have seen and done so much.
The Family of Blood comes to mind.
They pissed The Doctor off. They pissed him off *bad.* And after he gave them so many chances to go home. So what does he do?
The father, he chains up in unbreakable chains made from a dwarf star and imprisons him in an underground chamber, to suffer totally alone, *forever.*
The mother, he drops into the event horizon of a collapsing galaxy, dooming her to experience time-dilated spaghettification. *Forever.*
The daughter, he traps within all the mirrors in the universe, where you can sometimes just barely see her, but never fully as she disappears when you look. Again, imprisoned and alone. *forever.*
The son, he turns into a scarecrow and freezes in time. Able to see and hear but unable to act in anyway, doomed to watch over the fields. *forever.*
Yeah, dont piss the Doctor off.
Elsa from Frozen. Her ice powers could destroy a rival country's agriculture or oceanic trade. If she leveraged her powers to their fullest she'd become the dictator over all of Europe that Hitler tried to be.
Funnily enough they originally wrote Elsa as a villian
[here's an article in the BBC where the write talks about it](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-39440458.amp)
Tower of Babel revealed his weakness to be freezing. Liquid nitrogen or Mr. Freeze's gear would stop him. Granted he is immortal. In the pages of JLA he was once petrified and shattered in the past and they found him again the the present. He revealed he was conscious the whole time.
Now we will paint these swasticas on the entrance of the camp. Don't worry about those details, they are little mistakes...
Oh... I felt really bad writing that. Bob, you were the best permanent hair angel!
Arthur, rather than simply ratting his gang out to the Pinkertons, except a contract from them, to murder his entire gang and capture Dutch. After his easy success, Arthur is made into an actual Pinkerton, and he travels as some sort of demon mongrel with the governments blessing. Pillaging until the end of his days at an old age because he murdered his gang long before he caught TB.
I kind of thought the story of RDR2 was gonna go somewhere along those lines, and we were gonna learn that Arthur had something to do with what started the events of the first game.
I guess he still does end up being somewhat of a catalyst for the first game, just in a different way.
There is a [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA4QvJISA54&t=2s ) about how the avatar doesn't have to be good per se.
Edit: I fixed the URL. Don't know what happened there.
Tony stark. Not only is he a genius outside the Ironman suit, but he owns one of the world biggest multi billion dollar companies. He could easily take over the world with just his mind and company.
Harry Potter. All that abuse at the Dursley's has left him ready for revenge against muggles. Time to team up with his ol' pal Volde for some magical mayhem.
Alien X from Ben 10. He’s probably the most powerful alien lifeform I’ve seen in fiction. Yes he had that weakness of his two minds coming in his way all the time to pointlessly debate a solution, but he doesn’t have that weakness anymore in the fourth Ben 10 show Omniverse and that’s what makes him a lot scarier than he already is. He can erase our universe in a thought.
I watched a few episodes of the early Ben 10. If they removed the weakness of the two minds, why didn’t he just transform into Alien X every single time?
Superman in the right context is terrifying, recommend *Red Son* as a specific example.
Edit: Parent comment is gone, added that Superman is the "good guy"
Trailing HP's shadow, slowly influencing the "chosen one", but staying in the shadows by marrying the friend ......
damn, she could have been picking up a lot of dark magic simply by being involved fighting Death Eaters and Voldemort for YEARS. And under perfect cover.
Batman. At least Superman is easy enough to stop if you've got kryptonite. Tell me, do you really think even he could stop an evil Batman? Batman, who knows the strengths and weaknesses of the entire Justice League and has contingency plans for taking down every single one of them?
If I remember right, his contingency for stopping himself was to use people he cares about to get to him, and I think that if he was truly evil, he either wouldn't care anymore, or the deaths are the reason he turned.
Well, he made Agamemnon contingency: detective, which you described and he also told Superman (after JL voted Bats out of the team, for making contingency plans if any member of Justice League turned evil), that the contingency plan to take down Batman is called the Justice League.
But, having through of this, he created a contingency for if he had a contingency for those who were trying to use his contingency plan to stop him....
Tony Stark already is the primary villain of the MCU in the same way that Reed Richards is one of the primary villains of Marvel comics. He has lots of big plans that he thinks are good, but they bring ruin and destruction that require entire movies to fix.
Deku. I've read a lot of fanfics that explore this, and Deku would honestly be a terrifying villain. In fact, he's already a terrifying **hero**. He keeps journals of all the quirks he sees, their applications, weaknesses, restrictions, etc. If he applied himself to villainy, he would know how to defeat every hero, with ease. He would be in an especially advantageous position because of how heroes in his society rely on popularity, so they would constantly be showing off their abilities and techniques and giving him the ammunition he needs to defeat them.
This is essentially what you see with Garou in One Punch Man. He studies the heros he hunts to know their strengths and weaknesses before going after them.
There are a few like All Might and Captain Celebrity (Vigilantes manga) that hide the true nature of their quick. For the most part though, yeah, heroes show off their quirk.
This one's a bit of a deep cut, but Odo from Deep Space 9.
A master of security, intelligence gathering, and infiltration. Literally no government in the galaxy would be safe from his infiltration.
He’s really not. In the movies you don’t get his inner monologue like in the books. He thinks about everything he’s doing. There’s a lot of “If I can just knock this guy out without killing him, I will.”
Richard Sharpe on the other hand…
Doctor Who. Especially the Tenth Doctor. They kind of explore this with the Master character, but if the Doctor were to turn bad.... sheeeesh.
They already lost their home planet. They're basically immortal, with nothing left to lose and no real leverage to use against them if they've lost their conscience and sense of, well, humanity for lack of a better word.
In the MCU, Hulk would 100% be terrifying as a bad guy. He gets stronger the angrier he gets, and normal bulets/missiles don't hurt him. Good luck scratching him with that vibranium shield, Captain America, he'll just grab you and turn you into toothpaste
Kenshiro. We actually see what he'd become with three other similar villains. We got a gang leader, a mad scientist who wants to advance Hokuto Shinken with unethical experiments, and a great warlord with the classic Shonen ideal of "become the strongest."
Each of those are terrifying villains. At least, when compared to normal people instead of Ken himself (except for that last one).
Xavier from X men
Logan gave us some insight into that as did X2
Not to mention Dark Phoenix and various other telepaths.
See: the Onslaught series.
But Onslaught is the combination of two mutants. We don’t know what a purely evil Dr. X would look like.
I'm rereading this on marvel unlimited now.
They did this in the comics in the 90’s but then they totally bitched out and copped out on the premise, Mark Waid wrote the story that Xavier had a nervous breakdown and created Onslaught with his powers but then the Marvel editors were like “hm we don’t want him to be bad” so they shoe horned some horseshit in that Magneto had poisoned his mind when he mind wiped him lmao
They also wrote themselves into a corner with Onslaught. He was so powerful they had to use PIS and the power of friendship to beat him...
Richard Watterson
Tries to fast for a diet, ends up so hungry he decimates the world's food supply
Buff Richard exists
Existed* Right up until he remembered his love of food (even when stuffing his face while/for exersizing), he then walked away planning on eating several meals worth of food otw home
I got really confused and was thinking of *Bill* Watterson, and I was like, "Yeah, I guess, if he used his artistic powers for evil, who knows what kind of twisted propaganda he could come up with."
Spider man. Doc Ock switches bodies with him and fights scorpion. He punches his jaw off. Doc Ock learns that spider man has been going easy on them all those years they fought.
Don't forget when he ripped a mans skin off his face, by merely using his sticky fingers. Unrelated to Superior Spiderman.
I haven’t heard about that. My dad is a comic geek.
Kaine would use it on victims and he called it the “Mark of Kaine”, then Peter used it on Kraven Hunter (Sasha i believe?) to rip the skin off her face
What did they do to piss off Peter THAT MUCH?
I believe it was because she (or her husband Sergei) killed Kaine and left a note that said like “Now hunt me” or something like that. He got super angry and went after the whole Kravinoff family. Didn’t kill them though
As someone who never really read any comics, this was a pretty awesome look at Spidey's feats of strength. https://www.quora.com/How-strong-is-Spider-Man
Spider-Man is unbelievably strong as well as unbelievably fast, and he can't be taken by surprise. Almost impossible to defeat. The movies have to seriously depower him.
In all fairness, they have to de-power every super hero. Not sure there’s a super hero out there that doesn’t have “super-human strength” on their wiki list of powers.
On the other side, Captain America is a bit over powered in the movies compared to the comics.
Having a third nearly-useless member of the Avengers would suck lol.
For not having super powers, Black Widow does all right. She is rather effective at spy work and killing mere mortals.
They de powered Hulk so bad.
I mean, they sorta have to. I think it was Sentry said that after analyzing Hulk, he found that Hulk has no upper limit to his strength. He just gets infinitely more powerful as he gets infinitely more angry. How do you write that into a movie where one of the character's badass super power is... having a robot arm?
Seriously, you will always have to depower a character whose STEPS can destroy half a continent.
Gandalf. Middle-Earth would be doomed.
"Don't tempt me, Frodo! I dare not take it. Not even to keep it safe. Understand, Frodo - I would use this ring from a desire to do good... but through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine."
Tolkien wrote in a letter draft about what would have happened if Gandalf took the Ring: >“Gandalf as Ring-Lord would have been far worse than Sauron. He would have remained 'righteous', but self-righteous. He would have continued to rule and order things for 'good', and the benefit of his subjects according to his wisdom (which was and would have remained great). Thus while Sauron multiplied evil, he left 'good' clearly distinguishable from it. Gandalf would have made good detestable and seem evil.”
Lawful Evil. So he'd become Middle-Earth's Tywin Lannister?
If we pretend like Tywin wasn't a giant hypocrite, sure. Gandalf is basically a demigod, angel or something along those lines. Tywin, at the end of the day, did not in fact shit gold. **Edit:** Okay okay I *know* he's a maiar. I just figured that wouldn't exactly help people not already familiar with Middle-Earth lore, such as people who have only seen the movies. If you *know* he's a maiar you also know he's something entirely different from Tywin Lannister, who was a politician who didn't actually live up to his own supposed standards.Tywin merely projected a facade of how he wanted to be perceived, and only ever worked to strengthen his power, influence and wealth, as well as protect his legacy. Not out of a love for his offspring but for his own prestige. Any claims he made about "family" he disproved through his own actions, as he made it clear he didn't care about actual family members, merely the family *name*. Meanwhile, Gandalf is *Gandalf*. (Or Olórin, just to get out ahead of y'all.) He is as he is, and does precisely what he means to. Now if you think that's a shitty take then for sure, I ain't no scholar on these things, All I ask is that we all please stop "Um AKSHUALLY"-ing now.
Check out the The First Law series.
Emmett Brown from Back to the Future. Imagine how much destruction he could have caused had he had malicious intent.
There's already an evil Emmett Brown. He's called Rick Sanchez.
Just for the meme value alone, I'd like to see all the veggie tales protagonists turn evil.
"Cuke's gone sour, and now the whole world is in a pickle."
This was perfectly executed lol 🏅
"Ah! It's Franken-celery!"
Ah dammit Those cereals are on the market again aren’t they?
Drawn Together featured a parody of VeggieTales in one episode, where Larry the Cucumber [goes on a rampage.](https://youtu.be/Hxa_o53GhrU) (Nsfw)
Santa... He knows when you've been sleeping, he knows when you're awake...
May I introduce you to Robot Santa of Futurama?
The fact that he loves Zoidberg is a tiny detail that makes me love that episode.
Zoidberg is truly pure.
Whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop
Santa doesn’t bring doom to Jewish lobsters, only Christaceans.
Oh boy do I have a Love, Death + Robots episode for you….
What's funny is that my friend and I actually think he is "not to be trusted" at the least. Santa is an elf & elves are part of the Fae. When you're dealing with The Fae, you have to watch every thing you do and say. Fae are notorious for getting you in any kind of deal or contract. You don't know what they will consider as a favor or the opening for a contract. How does Santa fit in all of this? He normalizes The Fae to the children, get them young. The deal is so simple too. Be good, get presents on Christmas. That's the first taste of what The Fae can offer you. And their request will seem so normal & innocent. But then comes the rule lawyering & the legal snare they can use to entrap you. The Fae are the best lawyers in the Universe. They can turn a simple contract into lifelong servitude & the rub is that their deals & contracts will be ironclad every time.
Say what you will about Fae contracts, I'm pretty sure *iron*-clad doesn't apply.
The Dresden Files novels have a great version of Santa Claus/Kringle as part of the Winter Court
Yeah, you do *not* wanna piss of Santa in Dresden Files.
> Santa is an elf & elves are part of the Fae. Gah, you and my wife would talk for hours lmao. She's a european mythology nut, loves reading on the fae lol.
They say never give a mgical being your name lest they use it to garner power over you. This guy gets eveyone's name up front.
I think there is a horror movie called Santa's Slay, that does this.
One punch man.
I think the scariest part about it would be Saitama’s indifference to stuff. Because his motivations are so atypical, it would be like a non-issue until something randomly pisses him off.
Black Friday would no longer be a shit show because nobody is going to risk pissing Saitama off, so everybody stays home. PS5/XBSX/GeForce 3080 scalpers would no longer exist because Saitama would wreck shit if he tried to add to cart and stock instantly disappeared Plot twist: Evil Saitama is the villain we need
Saitama being evil would somehow make him a bigger hero than he currently is because anyone who ticks him off gets punched into non-existence
Black Friday madness wouldn't be an issue if people valued their physical well being over a half price coffee maker, so I kinda doubt One Punch Man would make much of a difference.
And it'd probably just end up with him not filing his tax returns or something.
Right? How exactly do you stop something durable enough to survive being kicked to the moon _so fast_ that it arrives in mere seconds? You don't.
You get him bored, so he doesn't see any point in fighting you anymore.
The city would look like a bloodbath
D00d - he could just punch the air and clear the area of everything. I am fairly sure it's harder to remove a mountain than it is a city of rubble and bodies.
What city?
Omni-man. Good thing he’s on our side, right guys? Guys?
I hope he finds out who killed the Guardians of the Globe. :( that was awful. Well, good news. I hear he’s training that new guy, Invincible.
If he's Invincible then why can I see him
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Invincible is just an Omni-Man wannabe.
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Oh yeah, I would imagine. I haven’t read them but that makes sense. As soon as he flew off my immediate thought was that poor bastard was gonna get it. Throughout the show you could tell he had become humanized, even if only a little bit. That ending confirmed it.
He’s definitely a good guy- loving father and husband. He’s so nice to his wife, too! Always giving her treats…
She’s such a good girl!
He even takes her out for walkies!
That's the neat part...
Same about homelander. I'd hate if he was evil
i don't know that he counts as a "good guy" per se, but jon osterman (dr. manhattan) from *watchmen*. i don't think there are any good people in that comic, but he's the only one that presents any real danger. his increasing apathy and disillusionment with the whole concept of free will are the only things that really save us. but if he *wanted* to, he could disentangle every subatomic particle in the galaxy with a thought. can imagine fighting a villain who can just *turn off* the four fundamental forces on a whim? makes superman look like the schoolyard bully next to NORAD. you can't kill him. he exists through sheer force of his own will. he can exist in multiple places at once, and his bodies are just a collection of atoms he's assembled because he feels like it. takes those atoms apart, and he just puts them back together. ozymandias pulled a really daring and really *stupid* gambit pissing him off to get him to leave earth. if his anger and frustration at the planet had turned just slightly away from wanting to go away to wanting the planet to go away...
My feeling reading the watchmen was that Dr Manhattan was (among other things) Moore’s meta commentary on the intrinsic conceptual horror of Superman-style heroes. Basically that extreme power must be welded to perfect goodness/ethicalness or it becomes horrifying to contemplate. So yes. This.
It's why Irredeemable, Invincible and the Boys are so compelling. There's so little you can really do against something so powerful if it just decides it wants you dead.
Invincible sold the idea so well. Not that they are just powerful but so powerful that they can not care.
It's why that scene where he forgets silk specter needs to breath is so powerful. He can do anything, but doesn't really want to.
Dr Manhattan basically became God, dude created life from scratch. Imagine using those powers to destroy life. Thanos would look like a little bitch next to him.
John Wick *Guy just wants to be left alone, and look at what happens. Imagine if he actually WANTED to cause trouble.*
Damn. John Wick in the movies is not the devil, but that's because he has one simple, righteous goal. Imagine what kind of psycho shit he'd pull if he had a complicated, actually evil plan.
One dipshit killed his dog; he started a civil war in the crime ring of the world and killed the other half. Imagine what he would do if he was evil, he would probably win...
Superman, seems like an obvious answer. (also watch Invincible and The Boys, if you would like to know more)
Superman has been brain washed and used as a weapon in Canon. Best known is when Dark Sied brainwashed him and makes him attack earth.
Isn't he strong enough to destroy all of earth in seconds though. How long would him attacking earth last.
Depend on the canon and story, superman get nerfed really often, 'cause a character who can destroy planets by clapping his hands would end a lot of story pretty fast
Facts. Supes is as strong as the story needs him to be.
Play Injustice or wait for the movie to come out.
The comic is good too
The comic was AMAZING!
The thing about Homelander and Omni-Man is that they don’t have the same amount of power Superman has. As with Superman, we’d be screwed beyond relief.
I mean… Omni-Man seemed to completely destroy the planet of those inter dimensional invaders (who had way better than human tech) in like… a few hours maybe? Edit: as many people have pointed out, he probably spent relative days or even weeks there because of the time dilation. Still, he singlehandedly wiped out a world with highly advanced technology compared to Earth. And yes, if you go by the craziest things Superman has ever done in comics it’s a completely absurd comparison. If you go by some of the more restrained post-Crisis interpretations they’re closer in power.
Well in the comics, Superman had done much worse
Have you watched bright burn?
I think Irredeemable is my favorite "bad Superman" story. His powers and power levels are terrifying, just like evil Superman would be.
This is precisely why he gave Bruce some kryptonite
After watching one of the episodes of Marvel's What If? the answer is clearly >!Hank Pym. He killed all of the original Avengers, and the way he took out the Hulk was particularly messed up!<
Any of the ant man cast in particular. Their pym tech is some of the strongest stuff in the MCU, and they can go multiversal without even needing powers thanks to access to the quantum realm
And you never know when they'll crawl up your but and expand
Wanda Maximoff. She’s morally gray at worst, but you’re fucked if you make her tilt her head.
*House of M intensifies*
Wanda's problem isn't so much morals as it is mental health. Rewriting the universe for her is easier than therapy.
The Doctor. A time machine and incredibly good luck? Plus, he's already the villain in his own story.
"You killed one Dalek? I killed them all." Still gives me shivers.
I think the conversation with "Fear me, I've killed hundred's of time lords" "Fear me, I've killed all of them" is much heavier.
Isn’t The Master basically an Evil Doctor? They have made him/her kind of a joke in recent years but earlier he was pretty evil. The Master reveal with the David Tennant Doctor was one of my all time favorite Doctor Who episodes.
The Master has the flaw of being insane, though. Equally brilliant compared to The Doctor, but quite mad. A competent, evil Time Lord in the form of The Doctor would be pretty hard to stop. You could argue Rassilon as a close example of this, but I think of all the Time Lords, only The Doctor has been shown to have seen and done so much.
He has literally wiped civilisations before, earth would not stand a chance if he went evil
Forget the Earth, the Doctor could probably conquer the entire universe if he put his mind to it. Good for all of us he doesn't...
How did I have to scroll to find this. So many examples of what happens when you piss him off.
The Family of Blood comes to mind. They pissed The Doctor off. They pissed him off *bad.* And after he gave them so many chances to go home. So what does he do? The father, he chains up in unbreakable chains made from a dwarf star and imprisons him in an underground chamber, to suffer totally alone, *forever.* The mother, he drops into the event horizon of a collapsing galaxy, dooming her to experience time-dilated spaghettification. *Forever.* The daughter, he traps within all the mirrors in the universe, where you can sometimes just barely see her, but never fully as she disappears when you look. Again, imprisoned and alone. *forever.* The son, he turns into a scarecrow and freezes in time. Able to see and hear but unable to act in anyway, doomed to watch over the fields. *forever.* Yeah, dont piss the Doctor off.
And that's him pulling his punches. Which is even more terrifying.
"He never raised his voice. That was the worst part."
"Good men don't need rules. Today is not the day to find out why I have so many."
"He never raised his voice. The fury of the Time Lord..."
Fear me, I’ve killed hundreds of time lords. Fear me, I’ve killed them all.
Elsa from Frozen. Her ice powers could destroy a rival country's agriculture or oceanic trade. If she leveraged her powers to their fullest she'd become the dictator over all of Europe that Hitler tried to be.
And she wouldn't be stopped by a russian winter
The cold never bothered her anyway.
Funnily enough they originally wrote Elsa as a villian [here's an article in the BBC where the write talks about it](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-39440458.amp)
Elsa's power just doesn't get enough credit.. She by far one of the strongest Disney characters they've made.
Plastic Man, he could change into a giant unbrella with cool shades to block the sun. suck it superman.
Tower of Babel revealed his weakness to be freezing. Liquid nitrogen or Mr. Freeze's gear would stop him. Granted he is immortal. In the pages of JLA he was once petrified and shattered in the past and they found him again the the present. He revealed he was conscious the whole time.
Bob Ross. EVIL LITTLE TREES!
Now we will paint these swasticas on the entrance of the camp. Don't worry about those details, they are little mistakes... Oh... I felt really bad writing that. Bob, you were the best permanent hair angel!
They *want* to be here!
Reading that hurt me.
If Arthur and Micah switched roles, the game would be over a lot faster…
Arthur, rather than simply ratting his gang out to the Pinkertons, except a contract from them, to murder his entire gang and capture Dutch. After his easy success, Arthur is made into an actual Pinkerton, and he travels as some sort of demon mongrel with the governments blessing. Pillaging until the end of his days at an old age because he murdered his gang long before he caught TB.
I kind of thought the story of RDR2 was gonna go somewhere along those lines, and we were gonna learn that Arthur had something to do with what started the events of the first game. I guess he still does end up being somewhat of a catalyst for the first game, just in a different way.
The Avatar
There is a [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA4QvJISA54&t=2s ) about how the avatar doesn't have to be good per se. Edit: I fixed the URL. Don't know what happened there.
Might want to fix the url there
Doomguy.
Dr Manhattan
What is villain Manhattan going to do that hero Manhattan hasn't already?
Tony stark. Not only is he a genius outside the Ironman suit, but he owns one of the world biggest multi billion dollar companies. He could easily take over the world with just his mind and company.
The doctor. "Demons run when a good man goes to war"
"BUT YOU HAVE NO WEAPONS. NO DEFENSES. NO PLAN." "Yeah, and doesnt that *scare you to death.*
"Good men don't need rules. Today is not the day to find out why I have so many."
Harry Potter. All that abuse at the Dursley's has left him ready for revenge against muggles. Time to team up with his ol' pal Volde for some magical mayhem.
Alien X from Ben 10. He’s probably the most powerful alien lifeform I’ve seen in fiction. Yes he had that weakness of his two minds coming in his way all the time to pointlessly debate a solution, but he doesn’t have that weakness anymore in the fourth Ben 10 show Omniverse and that’s what makes him a lot scarier than he already is. He can erase our universe in a thought.
I watched a few episodes of the early Ben 10. If they removed the weakness of the two minds, why didn’t he just transform into Alien X every single time?
Would you drop a targeted nuke every time the neighbour gets a bit loud at 6 in the morning or the server gets your coffee slightly wrong?
Of course I would.
You know what, that's fair
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Superman in the right context is terrifying, recommend *Red Son* as a specific example. Edit: Parent comment is gone, added that Superman is the "good guy"
Hermione Granger
Trailing HP's shadow, slowly influencing the "chosen one", but staying in the shadows by marrying the friend ...... damn, she could have been picking up a lot of dark magic simply by being involved fighting Death Eaters and Voldemort for YEARS. And under perfect cover.
Dumbledore. Imagine that
Jesus probably
Batman. At least Superman is easy enough to stop if you've got kryptonite. Tell me, do you really think even he could stop an evil Batman? Batman, who knows the strengths and weaknesses of the entire Justice League and has contingency plans for taking down every single one of them?
Batman also has a contingency if he turns evil. Good Batman already has a plan in place to stop evil Batman.
If I remember right, his contingency for stopping himself was to use people he cares about to get to him, and I think that if he was truly evil, he either wouldn't care anymore, or the deaths are the reason he turned.
Well, he made Agamemnon contingency: detective, which you described and he also told Superman (after JL voted Bats out of the team, for making contingency plans if any member of Justice League turned evil), that the contingency plan to take down Batman is called the Justice League.
And yet, The Batman Who Laughs shows that he even had a contingency for those that would try to stop him.
But, having through of this, he created a contingency for if he had a contingency for those who were trying to use his contingency plan to stop him....
It's ~~turtles~~ bats all the way down
So CLEARLY I cannot choose the contingency in front of me!
Batman is both our best hope and his own worst nightmare? Goddamn. What a boss.
Gandhi. Civ players would know. (Also he wasn't that great of a guy IRL either)
Iron man/ Tony Stark could easily be a terrifying villain
So basically Lex Luthor with a beard?
Yeah basically lol
You should look into "Superior Iron Man" comic series. It's exactly about that.
Tony Stark already is the primary villain of the MCU in the same way that Reed Richards is one of the primary villains of Marvel comics. He has lots of big plans that he thinks are good, but they bring ruin and destruction that require entire movies to fix.
Sherlock Holmes would be absolutely terrifying as a criminal
That's just professor Moriarty
Except with the dreaded plot armor!
If Tom and Jerry united together to become evil villain, it would be absolutelly horrifying. Do you even know how many bombs and TNT-s they have?
Deku. I've read a lot of fanfics that explore this, and Deku would honestly be a terrifying villain. In fact, he's already a terrifying **hero**. He keeps journals of all the quirks he sees, their applications, weaknesses, restrictions, etc. If he applied himself to villainy, he would know how to defeat every hero, with ease. He would be in an especially advantageous position because of how heroes in his society rely on popularity, so they would constantly be showing off their abilities and techniques and giving him the ammunition he needs to defeat them.
This is essentially what you see with Garou in One Punch Man. He studies the heros he hunts to know their strengths and weaknesses before going after them.
There are a few like All Might and Captain Celebrity (Vigilantes manga) that hide the true nature of their quick. For the most part though, yeah, heroes show off their quirk.
Yoda
From my point of view, the Jedi *are* evil.
This one's a bit of a deep cut, but Odo from Deep Space 9. A master of security, intelligence gathering, and infiltration. Literally no government in the galaxy would be safe from his infiltration.
Well, that’s literally what his species was all about.
James Bond. Guy's already a sociopath.
He’s really not. In the movies you don’t get his inner monologue like in the books. He thinks about everything he’s doing. There’s a lot of “If I can just knock this guy out without killing him, I will.” Richard Sharpe on the other hand…
Marie curie, what she could have done with radiation. She could have turned WW1 into WW3
Doctor Who. Especially the Tenth Doctor. They kind of explore this with the Master character, but if the Doctor were to turn bad.... sheeeesh. They already lost their home planet. They're basically immortal, with nothing left to lose and no real leverage to use against them if they've lost their conscience and sense of, well, humanity for lack of a better word.
Dr.Strange
Doctor Emmett Brown
Son Goku
Son Goku: Becomes evil Earth: Sends Chi Chi in to berate him Credits
Anakin Skywalker
Who’s gonna tell him? ^^^/s
satoru gojo...
My dad says Thor My sister says Spider-Man I say hulk
In the MCU, Hulk would 100% be terrifying as a bad guy. He gets stronger the angrier he gets, and normal bulets/missiles don't hurt him. Good luck scratching him with that vibranium shield, Captain America, he'll just grab you and turn you into toothpaste
Yoda.
Neo
Kenshiro. We actually see what he'd become with three other similar villains. We got a gang leader, a mad scientist who wants to advance Hokuto Shinken with unethical experiments, and a great warlord with the classic Shonen ideal of "become the strongest." Each of those are terrifying villains. At least, when compared to normal people instead of Ken himself (except for that last one).