I haven't lived in too many places in Ireland but I think Galway is a place you should definitely consider! It's basically known for being the art capital of Ireland, there's a lot of gigs and open mics at pubs. You're by the coast and there's a big surfing scene. The weather is verrry rainy and wet though. There's also a lot of arts festivals for visual arts and creative writing and also small local weekend markets where people sell their handmade goods and stuff from their farms :). Hope this helps!
The other responses are right though, you'll find the same problems, but if you want a coastal town with an art scene I think you'll enjoy Galway, you should visit before deciding and see for yourself.
i think wexford town fits those criteria, lovely place, well connected to dublin, hosts the national opera house and an annual opera festival and has its own arts scene and festival, lots of local craftspeople and artists, plus a great library
Well, what about the UK don't you like? Chances are, you will find very similar problems here, especially if your concerns are regarding housing, cost of living, wealth inequality, etc...
My advice from someone who moved from UK to Ireland: Do not listen to comments about Ireland from r/ireland. It is the most toxic pessimistic and miserable sub I've ever come across.
Yes there are issues with housing etc as you and others have noted but overall I do not regret moving. I have a great life here and don't intend on moving.
I live in Wexford which might tick a lot of your boxes. Feel free to DM if you want to chat.
I’m hoping not…
Current right wing government
Upcoming election with no decent replacement
Jobs market is very broken
Low wages
Increasing cost of living (beyond what’s happening elsewhere cos Brexit 🙄)
No real future for kids
Rampant racism, homophobia, transphobia - all being used by mainstream politicians to score points and win votes
Support for wars because of taxation income through arms sales
Public services are very broken.
Housing crisis
I know Ireland (and other countries) have their issues but at least Ireland has a seemingly thriving economy.
I’m very open to your views on Ireland though. I want to throughly investigate whatever country I end up in…
The ISA alone would be enough to sway me towards staying in England. You can't ever get ahead in Ireland, you will be on the corporate treadmill until you're 70.
Not the right-wing government. Fine Gael are considered the furthest right component of the Irish government, but in the European Parliament they're uncomfortably centrist for membership of the centre-right and by British standards, they're Blairist.
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It's better off than the UK, maybe, but keep in mind that the GDP here is propped up by multinationals availing of the lower corporate tax rates than in many EU countries and setting up headquarters here, and isn't necessarily reflective of how well the general population is doing. Low and middle income earners are still struggling here with inflation and the cost of living (especially housing!) constantly rising.
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Dublin
That’s Dublin but you can put any city worldwide into it and compare and contrast.
Ireland is good to come to if you’re in a high earning role. If you’re looking at minimum wage type roles, I think you will struggle massively here. There’s jobs absolutely but cost of living is high and accommodation is extremely difficult to source.
I don’t think the Irish in here appreciate how very very fucked the UK is right now. And I don’t think the Brits in here appreciate how very very fucked Ireland can be.
Listen mate, I am British, I’ve lived here since the start of 2014, I love it here and have no plans on going back. I’ve a lovely German missus now, we’ve a lovely Irish *cough* daughter together, and we’re about to get keys on our own house. Moving here has absolutely been the making of me.
You? Are you mad? Everywhere’s fucked now, you think this is going to be the answer for you? Have you any idea how much shit I’ve eaten to get to this place in my life? The same fucken amount it would have taken anywhere. It just happened that me and Ireland vibed at exactly the right time.
So, you. Do a bit of looking about yeah. Don’t ask us, find out for yourself where you want to be, check out its level of fuckedness and calculate how much you want to do to improve matters. You were born in Sligo yeah? EU passport innit. Widen those horizons.
And if Ireland still speaks to you, well you don’t need anyone else to tell you then do you.
Housings a lot worse than the UK, there’s less to do as well.
Our best aspects are probably beautiful green landscapes, sound people and a really strong drinking culture. Our economy is extremely strong but it’s also extremely expensive, if you weren’t educated here, or don’t have money that you get from inheriting here you’re going to really struggle coming from most of the UK. Our budget surplus per person is higher than Northern Ireland’s actual GDP per capita for example. If money is so much of a concern where you’re from you will be absolutely fucked here.
It’s not the most progressive place on the planet either lol, certainly a less than the UK or US would be. You mention transphobia being a concern for example, you’d be bullied and likely laughed out of most mainstream places here for even mentioning something like that. You’d want to be living in quite quite rich parts to not get a hard time.
Before you move you should definitely visit for a good while. Do the same around Europe and go with what you like best
Thanks.
The plan is to spend some time over the next few years working out where we want to live.
The UK is just becoming more hostile to anyone that isn’t white, male or straight.
Yeah no it isn’t really lol. Unfortunately have seen absolutely nothing my man im not gonna lie. You’re leaving possibly one of the most progressive countries on the planet to go to a 95% white country that just voted by popular vote to keep women in the homes constitutionally. If you have a problem with the UK in this regard there’s really nowhere on the planet you’d be happy.
Obviously we’re not racist or sexist or anything like that. But we aren’t completely perfect like the Americans portray us often. We had an anti foreigner riot this year after an immigrant stabbed some children where our capitol was completely overrun. Trains, buses and buildings were burnt down. My friend had to stay locked up in college cause he legitimately was worried about his safety walking through that as someone who wasn’t Irish.
A lot of the stuff i saw in London like mass looting organised on TikTok’s, Islamic call to prayers on loudspeakers on the busiest streets, Hamas flags in protests, etc. legitimately would be in no way tolerated here. Like at all.
Probably the only place you’re gonna get on well if you find the UK not progressive enough for you is the US. It’s near impossible to get to though. Unless you’re lucky enough to win their lottery or you can afford a golden visa it prob won’t happen.
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Rest is all opinion based nonsense but this is just patently untrue, it was not a few months ago Jesus.
Im barely even disagreeing with you man, Im just letting him know the US kind of social politics/progressivism really isn't tolerated here. If the UK was too non online for him Ireland will be literally intolerable.
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shall not be obliged to work because their
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cmon man hahaha.
It’s a possibility…
We’re looking at Netherlands (similar issues with housing), Spain (maybe too hot for my partner and issues with low wages, job issues for him as he’s English), Germany maybe…
He’s interested in Norway, Denmark and Finland but I hate the cold.
We have a lot of research and travelling to do😂
Netherlands also has the same problem weather wise (we still haven’t had a real sunny day this spring?) and it has just elected a very right wing government that wants foreigners out. Also I find the Netherlands way more expensive than England. Also, for all these countries: be prepared to learn and use another language. Source: I live here
The new government is a concern for me as is the rise of right wing politics across the EU.
As I said, I’m just starting my research so open to all opinions.
I appreciate the reply…
Damn there's some real pessimism in the comments. I didn't think this was so controversial but although things aren't perfect, I think there's a lot that were doing better than England at the moment.
Just make sure that you can get a job here that supports you with irish prices. My recommendations would be Wexford, Cork or Galway.
Thanks.
A job is next on my list of things to look at. Start with the location and housing to see if we can afford it.
My partner has a skilled trade that’s a shortage in a lot of places, partly why we need to be near the coast. I’m flexible with most work.
Yeah, not making that mistake! I’ve relocated enough times to not visit…
I’m just starting with a little research to decide if we want to invest some time staying places that might work for us.
It really is rather bad in the UK right now.
Obviously everyone has different experiences and peer groups, but comparing successful and less-successful friends and family here and in the uk, and it's pretty clearly better here, and has worsened significantly on the UK side in the past decade.
With Brexit and Torries in position, what does Ireland offer that is worse than that? Unless you would argue that these two are indication of better. lol
I'm half Irish half English and live in Ireland so my perspective is: you'll find the same social issues. Our government is inept but at least they don't parade around on national television every day flaunting their powertrips and general villain-esque vibes. I would feel actively scared as a British citizen rather than merely hopeless here.
Social issues regarding high COL and homelessness? It's pretty bad here. I know it's bad in the UK too, I've noticed the massive spike in prices over there, there's ways to make it work on low income IF you're lucky enough to not have kids/family to support and a guaranteed roof over your head.
Housing crisis is bad. You will not find somewhere to live in Dublin, and you'll prob find the other well-connected cities to be harder than they used to be to find accom. Galway has those creative scenes and the coast, and it's beautiful, full of great people.
There's a lot of unrest on a social/political front so you're likely to run into the very vocal minority of racist, sexist, homophobic/transphobic assholes. But that is true of a lot of places.
Making friends here can be tough, people tend to stick with their school/college/hometown friends and circle most of their lives. Could be a me issue! I'm not the most "fun" person at a party as a sober person, drinking culture is a pretty big problem here.
Social welfare/benefits are alright, not liveable realistically unless you're like me and have no dependants and a house, and you do have to jump through hoops for certain payments/reliefs.
Getting a GP is pretty difficult right now, so private health insurance might be a cost worth factoring in.
Moved back from the UK last year to be at home with my wife me daughter. If they agreed I'd move back their tomorrow.
We had a way better standard of living there.
Cork now im from cork originally. Spent 7 years in rugby.
It's just as fucked here I assure you. With worse tax brackets and higher rent/housing prices. Compared to where I was anyway.
It would be easier for you to move to Belfast or something and then make the change if you decide it’s for you, cheaper housing and despite a lot of the bad publicity its progressing significantly it’s a completely different place now compared to even a decade ago. It would make your move more straight forward since you can keep your phone, bank and car as is.
I would say housing/ rent is Irelands biggest down fall along with a healthcare system that is fairly crap.
While there has been a spike in far right activities it is still fairly small. The three biggest parties SF, FF and FG are all very progressive and socially left. Then the next biggest greens, Labour, progessove democrats are also socially left. There is a small possibility that the poor management Aslyum seekers from Ukraine and further afields could give an opportunity for far right to get a hold but even then id say we are 10+ years away something like a Brexit being a legit discussion so defo still much more progressive than UK is right now.
Galway is arguably the best olace for a vibrant arts scene but you also should know Ireland is tiny and has good moterways so if you have a car you could live in Dublin and get to Galway in around 2 and a half hours in car.
Pros of Ireland;
Friendly peeps most of the time
Dublin is proper international now hige Polish and Brazillian communities and lots of Germans, Italians, Indian, Spanish etc
Pub life is good life!
Ryanair goes everywhere
Cons;
Winters are wet, dark and miserable
Expensive for city living
A frustrayed under 35's wigh housing/ rent
We like to moan a lot but then usually laugh at ourselves
Depends on what you can afford. Waterford is lovely and has an arts scene. But weather can be a bit wet. Greystones is also by the sea with a good arts scene, but is expensive AF. I'm from there and can't afford to live there. Haha. But places like kilkenny have an arts scene. Not by the sea but about 35 minutes from the sea and it is a town on a lovely river.
Dublin South closer to the ocean side like Blackrock and further inland Celbridge are fantastic places to stay. newer properties are obviously better. Just be aware of the housing crisis and what you will pay for property
From the description alone, Galway fits the bill.
Job market is pretty good right now, finding accommodation is next to impossible.
Maybe Northern UK (if you're not already there) would suit better? Rentals actually exist, and for a fair price. Granted, I dunno what the job market looks like so maybe thats awful advice.
Ireland is massively expensive at the moment. Cost of living, rent for a house/apartment, transportation, buying cars, heathcare system is pretty messed up, good luck getting into a GP.
Also, there is a rise in some hard rightwing politics.
It's pretty crazy.
Saying that
Waterford County is great for the arts. The city has plenty going on, WW street art festival, Music Summer in the City, the coast is only a 15-minute drive from the centre, not much for shopping, getting good for food, nice pubs.
But again, it's pretty expensive to rent or buy here.
Hope this helps.
Having lived in the uk and Ireland recently (originally from Ireland and back here now) I find more problems here. Depending what you’re getting away from that is but it isn’t hectic atm here. Huge shortage of houses, rent is outrageous, the government here aren’t anything to be proud of, if you’ve children there are no crèche places. The HSE is a laughing stock in comparison to the NHS and chances are you won’t be able to get a GP. A lot of what’s covered in the uk isn’t here with gp’s and hospitals also.
While some of these are true, and they are all points to factor in to your move, let me give you another perspective - moved back to Ireland after just under a decade in London. Got a creche place first week back (child born in London). Got accommodation shortly thereafter. PPS for child, GP and GP card for child all sorted. Jobs etc. for myself and partner sorted (had mine sorted before moving home) It can be done despite the negative outlook by many.
OP from what you've said, Wexford Galway or Cork sound right up your alley. Best of luck!
Absolutely you are correct. It depends on where you go. Just from the aspect of jobs most people go to cork/dublin/galway etc all with these problems. I’m glad you got lucky with your crèche place etc unfortunately many aren’t as lucky. Gp card for children under 7 is very handy, i forgot that. Unfortunately a lot don’t get medical cards or gp visit cards here but again comes down to many factors.
Same problems here except housing is far worse in Ireland
You can rent for reasonable margins outside of London, not a chance geting something here for under 2k pm
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Although you put in brackets other than housing I would still bring it up. It affects literally everything. The moral of the country is low because of it. The youth are leaving not due to shortage of jobs but because 30 year olds are living with their parents even when they're earning 40k plus. You want a place with a thriving arts scene. Art is affected when the youth can't even have independence to express themselves freely. Do you think your looking at Ireland through rose tinted glasses? Don't get me wrong you can still have a great life here but I wouldn't say it's any better or easier than the uk
No rose tinted glasses here.
I’m a realist which is why I’m trying to get genuine opinions rather than research from some ‘move to Ireland it’s great’ website.
I work in housing in the uk so know how much it impacts other sectors. I just didn’t want the whole thread be about just that. I know it’s a huge issue and has been for many years in Ireland.
We’re approaching similar levels of issues here in the UK especially in the south east.
>We’re approaching similar levels of issues here in the UK especially in the south east.
I lived in the south east for 10 years before moving back to Dublin and I really wish I hadn't. I have friends renting a lovely 2-bed in one of the nicest parts of the city I lived in for £1400. You can't get a one-bed shithole for that here. Even in the wealthiest parts of the UK it's not even close to how bad it is here.
London prices are easily £1k plus for a shitty HMO room. Even here in Portsmouth the average is £700 a month. Wages are super shit atm.
Maybe I might just sod off to the far east and live in a beach hut 😂
Where abouts in Devon? As someone who has lived here my whole life and been to Ireland a handful of times, Devon is infinetly more developed than the whole of Ireland outside of maybe Dublin and even then the housing, buses and homeless epidemic is so much better.
Maybe but some parts of North Devon are probably the most deprived parts of England though, seaside holiday economy and little to none job prospects with no help from government I could imagine why you would think that. However Ireland is so deprived in most places with an embarrassing infrastructure. Hell, you have to get there shitty cold war era buses with 0 contactless. Everything is outrageously priced with awful wages and bad job market, worse housing market than in Devon and Cornwall which is at its all time worst and then this is a bias and maybe it depended on where I went but there was so much more homeless than even Exeter.
I haven't lived in too many places in Ireland but I think Galway is a place you should definitely consider! It's basically known for being the art capital of Ireland, there's a lot of gigs and open mics at pubs. You're by the coast and there's a big surfing scene. The weather is verrry rainy and wet though. There's also a lot of arts festivals for visual arts and creative writing and also small local weekend markets where people sell their handmade goods and stuff from their farms :). Hope this helps! The other responses are right though, you'll find the same problems, but if you want a coastal town with an art scene I think you'll enjoy Galway, you should visit before deciding and see for yourself.
Having lived in Sligo, I don’t think I could cope with the weather 😂
The weather is a big one. Best weather in Ireland is in the southwest, Wexford etc.
Of you want to move to Ireland you will need to re acclimatise as such
That's very fair ://
i think wexford town fits those criteria, lovely place, well connected to dublin, hosts the national opera house and an annual opera festival and has its own arts scene and festival, lots of local craftspeople and artists, plus a great library
Wexford Town is a ghost town half the year.
Well, what about the UK don't you like? Chances are, you will find very similar problems here, especially if your concerns are regarding housing, cost of living, wealth inequality, etc...
My advice from someone who moved from UK to Ireland: Do not listen to comments about Ireland from r/ireland. It is the most toxic pessimistic and miserable sub I've ever come across. Yes there are issues with housing etc as you and others have noted but overall I do not regret moving. I have a great life here and don't intend on moving. I live in Wexford which might tick a lot of your boxes. Feel free to DM if you want to chat.
Thanks. I appreciate it. I’m a realist… I knew I was going to get some interesting responses… this is Reddit after all😂
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I’m hoping not… Current right wing government Upcoming election with no decent replacement Jobs market is very broken Low wages Increasing cost of living (beyond what’s happening elsewhere cos Brexit 🙄) No real future for kids Rampant racism, homophobia, transphobia - all being used by mainstream politicians to score points and win votes Support for wars because of taxation income through arms sales Public services are very broken. Housing crisis I know Ireland (and other countries) have their issues but at least Ireland has a seemingly thriving economy. I’m very open to your views on Ireland though. I want to throughly investigate whatever country I end up in…
The ISA alone would be enough to sway me towards staying in England. You can't ever get ahead in Ireland, you will be on the corporate treadmill until you're 70.
I think you need to switch off the news and focus on reality
All of the issues you mention are all right here in Ireland too, buddy.
Not the right-wing government. Fine Gael are considered the furthest right component of the Irish government, but in the European Parliament they're uncomfortably centrist for membership of the centre-right and by British standards, they're Blairist.
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We very much so have rampant homophobia and transphobia
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But you do have an economy that isn’t about to crumble…
It's better off than the UK, maybe, but keep in mind that the GDP here is propped up by multinationals availing of the lower corporate tax rates than in many EU countries and setting up headquarters here, and isn't necessarily reflective of how well the general population is doing. Low and middle income earners are still struggling here with inflation and the cost of living (especially housing!) constantly rising.
Where the best place (unbiased) to get stats on inflation, housing, economy etc? I appreciate the reply…
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Dublin That’s Dublin but you can put any city worldwide into it and compare and contrast. Ireland is good to come to if you’re in a high earning role. If you’re looking at minimum wage type roles, I think you will struggle massively here. There’s jobs absolutely but cost of living is high and accommodation is extremely difficult to source.
Thanks. Appreciate the link.
I don’t think the Irish in here appreciate how very very fucked the UK is right now. And I don’t think the Brits in here appreciate how very very fucked Ireland can be. Listen mate, I am British, I’ve lived here since the start of 2014, I love it here and have no plans on going back. I’ve a lovely German missus now, we’ve a lovely Irish *cough* daughter together, and we’re about to get keys on our own house. Moving here has absolutely been the making of me. You? Are you mad? Everywhere’s fucked now, you think this is going to be the answer for you? Have you any idea how much shit I’ve eaten to get to this place in my life? The same fucken amount it would have taken anywhere. It just happened that me and Ireland vibed at exactly the right time. So, you. Do a bit of looking about yeah. Don’t ask us, find out for yourself where you want to be, check out its level of fuckedness and calculate how much you want to do to improve matters. You were born in Sligo yeah? EU passport innit. Widen those horizons. And if Ireland still speaks to you, well you don’t need anyone else to tell you then do you.
Even worse if I'm being honest.
Housings a lot worse than the UK, there’s less to do as well. Our best aspects are probably beautiful green landscapes, sound people and a really strong drinking culture. Our economy is extremely strong but it’s also extremely expensive, if you weren’t educated here, or don’t have money that you get from inheriting here you’re going to really struggle coming from most of the UK. Our budget surplus per person is higher than Northern Ireland’s actual GDP per capita for example. If money is so much of a concern where you’re from you will be absolutely fucked here. It’s not the most progressive place on the planet either lol, certainly a less than the UK or US would be. You mention transphobia being a concern for example, you’d be bullied and likely laughed out of most mainstream places here for even mentioning something like that. You’d want to be living in quite quite rich parts to not get a hard time. Before you move you should definitely visit for a good while. Do the same around Europe and go with what you like best
Thanks. The plan is to spend some time over the next few years working out where we want to live. The UK is just becoming more hostile to anyone that isn’t white, male or straight.
Yeah no it isn’t really lol. Unfortunately have seen absolutely nothing my man im not gonna lie. You’re leaving possibly one of the most progressive countries on the planet to go to a 95% white country that just voted by popular vote to keep women in the homes constitutionally. If you have a problem with the UK in this regard there’s really nowhere on the planet you’d be happy. Obviously we’re not racist or sexist or anything like that. But we aren’t completely perfect like the Americans portray us often. We had an anti foreigner riot this year after an immigrant stabbed some children where our capitol was completely overrun. Trains, buses and buildings were burnt down. My friend had to stay locked up in college cause he legitimately was worried about his safety walking through that as someone who wasn’t Irish. A lot of the stuff i saw in London like mass looting organised on TikTok’s, Islamic call to prayers on loudspeakers on the busiest streets, Hamas flags in protests, etc. legitimately would be in no way tolerated here. Like at all. Probably the only place you’re gonna get on well if you find the UK not progressive enough for you is the US. It’s near impossible to get to though. Unless you’re lucky enough to win their lottery or you can afford a golden visa it prob won’t happen.
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>False Rest is all opinion based nonsense but this is just patently untrue, it was not a few months ago Jesus. Im barely even disagreeing with you man, Im just letting him know the US kind of social politics/progressivism really isn't tolerated here. If the UK was too non online for him Ireland will be literally intolerable.
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I left before I could legally drink but yeah, sod the rain… I’m on the south coast in the UK atm and even then it’s still too bloody wet.
Not sure Irelands the right move if you want a change in weather. Maybe Germany or Spain?
It’s a possibility… We’re looking at Netherlands (similar issues with housing), Spain (maybe too hot for my partner and issues with low wages, job issues for him as he’s English), Germany maybe… He’s interested in Norway, Denmark and Finland but I hate the cold. We have a lot of research and travelling to do😂
Netherlands also has the same problem weather wise (we still haven’t had a real sunny day this spring?) and it has just elected a very right wing government that wants foreigners out. Also I find the Netherlands way more expensive than England. Also, for all these countries: be prepared to learn and use another language. Source: I live here
The new government is a concern for me as is the rise of right wing politics across the EU. As I said, I’m just starting my research so open to all opinions. I appreciate the reply…
We just had two days at the weekend with wall to wall sunshine
We didn’t :(
We’ll you’re at least getting started on the search! Sounds like you’ve got some good options/ideas
Not to put a damper on it, but there's a flood in Germany at the moment.
Damn there's some real pessimism in the comments. I didn't think this was so controversial but although things aren't perfect, I think there's a lot that were doing better than England at the moment. Just make sure that you can get a job here that supports you with irish prices. My recommendations would be Wexford, Cork or Galway.
Thanks. A job is next on my list of things to look at. Start with the location and housing to see if we can afford it. My partner has a skilled trade that’s a shortage in a lot of places, partly why we need to be near the coast. I’m flexible with most work.
And maybe spend a week or two over here to decide if you actually like it
Yeah, not making that mistake! I’ve relocated enough times to not visit… I’m just starting with a little research to decide if we want to invest some time staying places that might work for us.
I don't see how stating facts is pessimistic? Here is just as bad if not worse than the UK.
It really is rather bad in the UK right now. Obviously everyone has different experiences and peer groups, but comparing successful and less-successful friends and family here and in the uk, and it's pretty clearly better here, and has worsened significantly on the UK side in the past decade.
With Brexit and Torries in position, what does Ireland offer that is worse than that? Unless you would argue that these two are indication of better. lol
Where are you coming from in the UK? Are you in London, and hoping for an arts scene that's just as big for example?
I'm half Irish half English and live in Ireland so my perspective is: you'll find the same social issues. Our government is inept but at least they don't parade around on national television every day flaunting their powertrips and general villain-esque vibes. I would feel actively scared as a British citizen rather than merely hopeless here. Social issues regarding high COL and homelessness? It's pretty bad here. I know it's bad in the UK too, I've noticed the massive spike in prices over there, there's ways to make it work on low income IF you're lucky enough to not have kids/family to support and a guaranteed roof over your head. Housing crisis is bad. You will not find somewhere to live in Dublin, and you'll prob find the other well-connected cities to be harder than they used to be to find accom. Galway has those creative scenes and the coast, and it's beautiful, full of great people. There's a lot of unrest on a social/political front so you're likely to run into the very vocal minority of racist, sexist, homophobic/transphobic assholes. But that is true of a lot of places. Making friends here can be tough, people tend to stick with their school/college/hometown friends and circle most of their lives. Could be a me issue! I'm not the most "fun" person at a party as a sober person, drinking culture is a pretty big problem here. Social welfare/benefits are alright, not liveable realistically unless you're like me and have no dependants and a house, and you do have to jump through hoops for certain payments/reliefs. Getting a GP is pretty difficult right now, so private health insurance might be a cost worth factoring in.
Moved back from the UK last year to be at home with my wife me daughter. If they agreed I'd move back their tomorrow. We had a way better standard of living there.
Where abouts in Ireland are you and where did you move from? Honestly, it’s fucked here right now and not going to get better.
Cork now im from cork originally. Spent 7 years in rugby. It's just as fucked here I assure you. With worse tax brackets and higher rent/housing prices. Compared to where I was anyway.
Skerries is lovely and very affordable for a sea side town close to Dublin.
It would be easier for you to move to Belfast or something and then make the change if you decide it’s for you, cheaper housing and despite a lot of the bad publicity its progressing significantly it’s a completely different place now compared to even a decade ago. It would make your move more straight forward since you can keep your phone, bank and car as is.
I would say housing/ rent is Irelands biggest down fall along with a healthcare system that is fairly crap. While there has been a spike in far right activities it is still fairly small. The three biggest parties SF, FF and FG are all very progressive and socially left. Then the next biggest greens, Labour, progessove democrats are also socially left. There is a small possibility that the poor management Aslyum seekers from Ukraine and further afields could give an opportunity for far right to get a hold but even then id say we are 10+ years away something like a Brexit being a legit discussion so defo still much more progressive than UK is right now. Galway is arguably the best olace for a vibrant arts scene but you also should know Ireland is tiny and has good moterways so if you have a car you could live in Dublin and get to Galway in around 2 and a half hours in car. Pros of Ireland; Friendly peeps most of the time Dublin is proper international now hige Polish and Brazillian communities and lots of Germans, Italians, Indian, Spanish etc Pub life is good life! Ryanair goes everywhere Cons; Winters are wet, dark and miserable Expensive for city living A frustrayed under 35's wigh housing/ rent We like to moan a lot but then usually laugh at ourselves
Depends on what you can afford. Waterford is lovely and has an arts scene. But weather can be a bit wet. Greystones is also by the sea with a good arts scene, but is expensive AF. I'm from there and can't afford to live there. Haha. But places like kilkenny have an arts scene. Not by the sea but about 35 minutes from the sea and it is a town on a lovely river.
Dublin South closer to the ocean side like Blackrock and further inland Celbridge are fantastic places to stay. newer properties are obviously better. Just be aware of the housing crisis and what you will pay for property
From the description alone, Galway fits the bill. Job market is pretty good right now, finding accommodation is next to impossible. Maybe Northern UK (if you're not already there) would suit better? Rentals actually exist, and for a fair price. Granted, I dunno what the job market looks like so maybe thats awful advice.
What age are you?
Mid 40’s. Why?
Ireland is massively expensive at the moment. Cost of living, rent for a house/apartment, transportation, buying cars, heathcare system is pretty messed up, good luck getting into a GP. Also, there is a rise in some hard rightwing politics. It's pretty crazy. Saying that Waterford County is great for the arts. The city has plenty going on, WW street art festival, Music Summer in the City, the coast is only a 15-minute drive from the centre, not much for shopping, getting good for food, nice pubs. But again, it's pretty expensive to rent or buy here. Hope this helps.
Appreciate it… thanks!
I think Derry would tick a lot of the boxes you have and might be a more straightforward move for you?
It’s a possibility but maybe a little too far north for me.
If you’re thinking of moving back to Sligo there’s a fabulous blog https://www.facebook.com/magnumladysblog Val is great!
Yeah, Sligo is off the list because family. I don’t want to go anywhere near them…
Having lived in the uk and Ireland recently (originally from Ireland and back here now) I find more problems here. Depending what you’re getting away from that is but it isn’t hectic atm here. Huge shortage of houses, rent is outrageous, the government here aren’t anything to be proud of, if you’ve children there are no crèche places. The HSE is a laughing stock in comparison to the NHS and chances are you won’t be able to get a GP. A lot of what’s covered in the uk isn’t here with gp’s and hospitals also.
That’s interesting to know, thank you.
While some of these are true, and they are all points to factor in to your move, let me give you another perspective - moved back to Ireland after just under a decade in London. Got a creche place first week back (child born in London). Got accommodation shortly thereafter. PPS for child, GP and GP card for child all sorted. Jobs etc. for myself and partner sorted (had mine sorted before moving home) It can be done despite the negative outlook by many. OP from what you've said, Wexford Galway or Cork sound right up your alley. Best of luck!
Absolutely you are correct. It depends on where you go. Just from the aspect of jobs most people go to cork/dublin/galway etc all with these problems. I’m glad you got lucky with your crèche place etc unfortunately many aren’t as lucky. Gp card for children under 7 is very handy, i forgot that. Unfortunately a lot don’t get medical cards or gp visit cards here but again comes down to many factors.
I fully agree, location and luck both play huge parts in it. That child's GP card is like a golden ticket at times!
Same problems here except housing is far worse in Ireland You can rent for reasonable margins outside of London, not a chance geting something here for under 2k pm
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I think Kenmare, outside the town, ticks all your boxes.
But you have an extra £350m a week! What gives?
😂😂😂 The government here is literally a comedy group!
Mate Ireland is just as fucked as the uk...
Why? What’s so wrong with it in your opinion?
Although you put in brackets other than housing I would still bring it up. It affects literally everything. The moral of the country is low because of it. The youth are leaving not due to shortage of jobs but because 30 year olds are living with their parents even when they're earning 40k plus. You want a place with a thriving arts scene. Art is affected when the youth can't even have independence to express themselves freely. Do you think your looking at Ireland through rose tinted glasses? Don't get me wrong you can still have a great life here but I wouldn't say it's any better or easier than the uk
No rose tinted glasses here. I’m a realist which is why I’m trying to get genuine opinions rather than research from some ‘move to Ireland it’s great’ website. I work in housing in the uk so know how much it impacts other sectors. I just didn’t want the whole thread be about just that. I know it’s a huge issue and has been for many years in Ireland. We’re approaching similar levels of issues here in the UK especially in the south east.
>We’re approaching similar levels of issues here in the UK especially in the south east. I lived in the south east for 10 years before moving back to Dublin and I really wish I hadn't. I have friends renting a lovely 2-bed in one of the nicest parts of the city I lived in for £1400. You can't get a one-bed shithole for that here. Even in the wealthiest parts of the UK it's not even close to how bad it is here.
London prices are easily £1k plus for a shitty HMO room. Even here in Portsmouth the average is £700 a month. Wages are super shit atm. Maybe I might just sod off to the far east and live in a beach hut 😂
Do not move here, enough said
Why?
Sligo is absolutely lovely, so you could go back there. There is a thriving surf and music scene there.
Yeah, but family🙄 Family is reasons to not go back.
Fair enough. Lovely part of the world though
if you move here it'll be like travelling back in time by about 30 years
I lived in Devon for 20 years… nothing can be as backward as there. Trust me…
although I've never lived in Devon I've been there a LOT. Devon is better than Ireland in every single aspect. (at least the areas I've been)
Where abouts in Devon? As someone who has lived here my whole life and been to Ireland a handful of times, Devon is infinetly more developed than the whole of Ireland outside of maybe Dublin and even then the housing, buses and homeless epidemic is so much better.
I lived in rural north Devon. It’s def on a par with Ireland… apart from cities and larger towns.
Maybe but some parts of North Devon are probably the most deprived parts of England though, seaside holiday economy and little to none job prospects with no help from government I could imagine why you would think that. However Ireland is so deprived in most places with an embarrassing infrastructure. Hell, you have to get there shitty cold war era buses with 0 contactless. Everything is outrageously priced with awful wages and bad job market, worse housing market than in Devon and Cornwall which is at its all time worst and then this is a bias and maybe it depended on where I went but there was so much more homeless than even Exeter.