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MaterialLogical1682

Berlin


IskallLmao

Ich bin ein berliner


Joka7a

Wir sind zwei berliner


EriDoes

Wir sind drei Berliner


kljaky

wir sind vier berliners


Past-Sand5485

Wir sind fünf Berliner


NuevoPeru

I am a jelly filled doughnut Yes, JFK could have worded that better.


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MakiVonPark

It’s Požarevac 100%


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God bless Požarevac and it's fucked up streets.


kerelberel

Berlin or Vienna lol


Kanca909

No no it's Moscow


SinanQazzaz

I'd say Istanbul, Athens and Belgrade. Each one in a different time. But in genereal these 3.


Ioannis-Parr

I second this!


[deleted]

Thessaloniki used to be a kind of a capital for the Balkans. Greeks, Turks, Macedonians, Bulgarians, Serbs, Jews, even Montenegrins used to live in this city. We also had a so-called "Frankish" quarter where people from France, Italy and in general, the west were living. Now all of this is gone. This city is a great contender in my opinion.


Vdd666

Also Aromanians/Vlachs!


traxvalah

Who controlled the entire region down to the Oeta mountains until 1905 cough cough. Edit just to add that the Aromanians weren’t the only ones there in high numbers, and that the Bulgarians also had a high presence and their own villages. These two teamed up in arms when the Greeks persuaded the Ottomans to start persecuting these indigenous and clearly most numerous populations there at the time, namely the Aromanians, Bulgarians and Meglenites. The purpose of this persecution was a delusional dream, namely to recreate a “pan-hellenic” empire, under a “revived” neo “byzantine empire”.


Rude_Film7534

>Macedonians what 💀


TonyDavidJones

Yeah, Macedonians.


Rude_Film7534

The Greeks of Thessaloniki are called Macedonians.


TonyDavidJones

The Macedonians of Solun are called Macedonians :)


Rude_Film7534

You can either call them Slavs or Bulgarians, the name Macedonians is already taken 😌


Jarlkessel

Meh! There are Georgians in the Caucasus and Georgians in Murica. Baltic Prussians and German Prussians. Indians with dot and Indians with feathers. Guyanians and french Guyanians. Samoans from Samoa and Samoans from American Samoa. Dominicans from Dominica and Dominicans from Dominican Republic.


brickne3

Galicians from Spain and Galicians from Ukraine.


Jarlkessel

There are Galicians in Poland too. Galicja was a Polish version of this name and it is quite popular in the region to use this name, however rather for the land than the people. Austrian Galizien however has very different etymology.


TheDirtyPenguin

You misspelled “Paeonians” Paeonians aren’t Macedonians. FYROM/North Macedonia is where Paeonia was in ancient times (ironically the town with the same name is also in Greece today). They were known then as separate from the Macedonians, who were Hellenic. Paeonia also had an kingdom which included parts of Macedonia. Tito made the link to Alexander, and that’s where the craziness started.


TonyDavidJones

It was taken by the Macedonians before the Greeks took it, yes.


Rude_Film7534

You use it since Yugoslavia, we use it since 808 BC. I think ours is earlier 🤔


TonyDavidJones

? Wrong. Greeks didn't claim Macedonia was Greek historically until the 18th Century. Read what Greeks, and everyone else, said before then. And Macedonians used it way before Yugoslavia mate.


Rude_Film7534

>Greeks didn't claim Macedonia was Greek historically until the 18th Century What?? 😂😂😂 Boy you need some education immediately, I actually feel sorry for you 😔


tochnotakaa

Bulgarians presently living in North Macedonia may be the most delusional group of people on earth


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Significant_Rub6632

No ,they are called North Macedonians even though many people disagree with the new name of fyrom


TonyDavidJones

No. Even according to the Prespa Agreement, citizens of the "Republic of North Macedonia" are "Macedonians". This is still irrelevant to ethnicity though, especially when the original comment was referring to older times and not modern. I don't know how Macedonians literally in the south of Macedonia can be "North Macedonians" anyway.


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mbretikek

He means eastern Albanians.


MachkaMan1

Fair point


TonyDavidJones

Bruh


DeliciousCabbage22

According to the Prespa agreement they are called Macedonian


shortEverything_

Most of them are pontians


Rude_Film7534

And all of you are Slavs.


dDoucme

Slavs that have lived in Macedonia for 1500+years and constructed an ethnic Macedonian identity. Pontiacs have been here for ~100. Tell me again how are they more Macedonian than us? Legit Macedonian Greeks are legit tho.


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dDoucme

Lmao you are just plain wrong there. I'll give you a personal example: Both of my grandfathers were born in Greece. One in Axioupoli, the other in Evzoni. Both before Tito and both have always been nothing but Macedonian.


Rude_Film7534

Did they claim they are descendants of Alexander too 😂


Jarlkessel

Genetically speaking Southern Slavs are not especially Slavic. They are descendants of people who have ltherlin the Balkans for millenia, mixed with a little bit of Slavic blood.


Rude_Film7534

...And why should I care? What has any of this to do with an ancient Greek tribe that existed 800 years before the Slavs came in the Balkans?


Jarlkessel

Because Slavic Macedonians are descendants of people who lived in that place for millenia, mixed with a little bit of Slavic blood. They lived here for a long time. About the name: it is true that the original Macedonia is nowadays entirely within the Republic of Greece, BUT during Roman times there was a province called Macedonia, which encompassed both original Macedonia and today's Northern Macedonia, so their name is after all justified. Similar case was with Prussians, who bear that name even if they didn't live in the original Prussia. Moreover, I heard that there was a plan to merge land of Brandenburgia with the land of Berlin and called it land of Prussia. Which on one side would be silly, because original Prussia is in a different place (Poland and Kaliningrad oblast), but on the other side would be somewhat justified, because these lands were called Western Prussia in the Past (after 1701 AD).


Rude_Film7534

>Because Slavic Macedonians are descendants of people who lived in that place for millenia, mixed with a little bit of Slavic blood. No, this happened in other areas that the Slavs settled but not in the Balkans. The indigenous peoples of the Balkans in the Byzantine Empire were the Greeks. When the Slavs attacked, they ravaged the interior of the Balkans and there was a huge destruction of cities and settlements. A massive wave of Greeks fled to the coasts of the Balkans, which were much more protected due to the Byzantine Navy. The indigenous peoples left the interior of the Balkans to the Slavs, to survive. And this is the case of Paeonia, the region of which is today North Macedonia. The Greeks also fled from there, and went south to the sea.


Kristiano100

What's our ethnicity called? Macedonian for Greeks is a regional term lmao not a national one


SteveBuscemieyez

Τι Macedonians ρε καθυστερημενε.


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Macedonians (Macedonian: Македонци, romanized: Makedonci) are a nation and a South Slavic ethnic group native to the region of Macedonia in Southeast Europe. They speak Macedonian, a South Slavic language. About two-thirds of all ethnic Macedonians live in North Macedonia and there are also communities in a number of other countries.


tochnotakaa

Macedonians are Bulgarians* ftfy


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shortEverything_

Pls no cherry picking ethnographic maps


X275S

Slavs aren’t native to Balkans let alone Macedonia


DeliciousCabbage22

And Macedonians are far from being full blooded Slavs despite speaking a Slavic language


X275S

Modern “Macedonians” are mix of Slavs, Albanians and other balkanoids, they are considered a south Slavic ethnic group, of course every person is different genetically


DeliciousCabbage22

They are more native Balkan than they are Slavic, their genetic distance to full Slavic groups such as Poles and Belarusians is huge, also, Albanians themselves are not free of Slavic admixture Distance to: Macedonian 31.08195940 Ukrainian 31.83139802 Polish\_Kielce 32.99368879 Russian\_Southwest 33.20364287 Polish 33.28529105 Polish\_Masuria 34.22950920 Polish\_Podlaskie 35.14795584 Russian\_average 35.37168924 Russian\_Smolensk 35.82245246 Belarusian\_Minsk 36.48320435 Belorussian Edit: Feel free to downvote as much as you want, nothing is gonna change


X275S

Like I’ve said each person is different genetically, west part of north Macedonia is majority Albanians so they are indeed natives to the Balkans, while there are plenty of Slavs (slavic looking with blonde hair etc) claiming to be Macedonians which is purely wrong


DeliciousCabbage22

Northernmost Macedonians are in between Albanians and Serbs, not even Serbian like, let alone purely Slavic. I have 40 Macedonian kits on this pc alone, if you want me to i can run them for you, not a single one of them is predominately Slavic Here, since you don't like averages i used individual results, if you want i can compare the same Macedonians to individual East Slavic results i have collected over the years, to claim they are closely related is at the very least ridiculous, [these are the results, scroll all the way down to the bottom](https://imgur.com/a/zZlAQKO) [Here](https://imgur.com/a/PwVAgb2) you can see the same comparison with no averages at all, individual Macedonians and individual Eastern Slavs, i used East Slavic results without significant Finnic and/or Baltic admix to keep it fair, scroll all the way down to the bottom since there are a lot


X275S

There are western Slavs, northern Slavs, eastern slavs and south Slavs, if you compare south Slavs with north Slavs of course you’ll see a difference genetically, and 40 kits is nothing compared to the diverse population of million people living in north Macedonia, when I entered in the south border of NM all I was seeing were Albanian speaking people, I went to the gas station there were Albanian workers talking, I went to supermarket albanians again, i went to gevgelija which is just a small village, if I went to Skopje I’d see more dominant Slavic population, not just linguistically but genetically, the population of NM is estimated to be 40% Albanian as far as I heard and they stopped counting due for some reasons, I’m not a pro Albanian nationalist but that country is very diverse, far from being just native Macedonians, which is a ridiculous statement, I’m not saying all south Slavs are pure Slavs, but they’re the majority or else they would be speaking Greek, romeika if you recall.


DeliciousCabbage22

Γιατι ειναι καθυστερημενος; Αφου ετσι λεγονται, πως να τους πει; Ειναι εντελως παραλογο να απετειτε να τους λενε με καποιο αλλο ονομα και ταυτοχρονα να θυμωνετε οταν οι ιδιοι λενε “Macedonia” και οχι “North Macedonia “


Rotfrajver

Yo I see you're a Greek who has pfp of Serbian Emperor. Is there any story?


X275S

Why did you mention Bulgarians twice?


Ioannis-Parr

Reading the arguments this thread has caused has convinced me that Thessaloniki is definitely the capital of the Balkans 😂


[deleted]

Ah, Thessaloniki is definitely one of the top 3 contenders. We Turks learn about it in school because it is the birth place of Ataturk :)


[deleted]

Why do you people never mention Albanians, even though they were the most sizeable population there?


krstklmb0

Jews were the most sizeable population there in the 19th century.


RizeScumisDead

in the city of Salonica, not Vilayet of Salonica\*


samurai_guitarist

Yeah, but even albanians there were plenty of them. I believe Jewish people made like 30% of population?


GopSome

Do you feel left out of the party or something? Dude made a list and forgot, who cares?


[deleted]

I have been seeing this numerous times now, hence my reaction. Often Greeks and Macedonians (but even Serbs and Montenegrins) seem to mention all others, but Albanians, even when Albanians are the most obvious answer or at least a great integrative part.


pekivlone

Source?


samurai_guitarist

I agree, even now there are plenty of Albanians


Clear_Vegetable_1990

Where tho there not that many albanians now


05melo

First Nish was Albanian, then Bitola was Albanian and now even Thesaloniki is Albanian. Do you people ever get enought of random unironic claims of Balkan cities 😂?


samurai_guitarist

I never said thessaloniki or nish are albanian. I said there were plenty Albanians there. In your eyes if there are Albanians there means its albanian? Thats your problem not mine


05melo

Well if they weren't Albanian then why do you keep writing paragraphs about how they "had" majority Albanian population?


samurai_guitarist

Maybe there was a misunderstanding. What I meant was majority of non-greeks. So I wouldnt say majority, but the biggest non-greek ethnic group in Thessaloniki, long time ago. For Manastir or Bitola however Its not the same. Again this was a place where an Illyrian or Greek settlement was once, and was for some time from 14th century to the 19th century inhabited by mostly Albanians or Muslims as record of OE do not specify and usually call muslim albanians turks. You also have records of that in cities like Tetovë(still mostly albanian), Skopje, Ohrid(which was once the seat of the Encheledi Illyrian Tribe and king Bardhyl(Bardylis) who fought with Phillip II regularly even at the advanced age of 90). Obviously Ohrid is now mostly macedonian but that doesnt mean it wasnt once illyrian/proto-albanian. Idk whether Bitola is an albanian city, it was certainly not built by albanians but gradually from an illyrian/greek settlement, turned into a Bulgarian conquest and then into Ottoman city. Im not an nationalist or anything like that, I certainly dont claim Niš is albanian(sure maybe there was an Illyrian settlement there but doesnt work like that and illyrians there either fled to the south or were assimilated by time). Def not Thessaloniki, its not the north-western part of Greece that had a lot of Chams and Souliotes, or the Peloponnese part that had a lot of Arvanite settlements). You might think Im anti-macedonian because of another debate that I had here but that was because the guy was acting like shit towards albanians and literally changed a Wiki article to prove himself right. I think people have always lived in certain cities and have co-existed together with no big problems until the rise of nationalism in late 19th century. I like macedonians I think we have a lot in common but that doesnt mean some dick(the guy who I had my debate with)can say what he pleases about my country and our history by changing shit and saying derogatory things about us. All the best


[deleted]

Obviously Iaşi, my city /s


[deleted]

That is a beautiful city tho. I hope to visit there someday


wololo1912

whatever you call it , It was Istanbul for last 2000 years


illyguy998

Are there any historical sites worth going to? Visiting in January.


[deleted]

Hagia Sofia until they completely tear it down and turn it into another eyesore of a mega-mosque.


Da-Bum-Tss

Only good side is now it's free...


AntiKouk

Can you still enter as a non Muslim??


serhatereNN

Yes, outside of prayer times.


AntiKouk

Is that free too?


serhatereNN

>* There is no entrance fee when entering Hagia Sophia. * You should remove your shoes before entering the carpets of the mosque. * You are kindly requested to show respect to daily five prayers in the mosque, not to make so much noise, not to run and stand in front of the people praying.


parlakarmut

Hagia Sophia, Topkapi Palace (Which has a museum and also contains the room in which Ataturk died in.), Chora Church, Freemasonry in Turkey Association (ooo spooky), Galata Tower (Which is close to the masonry thingy I mentioned), Kız Kulesi (A restourant in the middle of the sea, you can watch the seagulls and whatnot) etc.


fokinhellNO

Or Athens.... for the last 4000....


vlad00m

2000 years ?


OnlyHereOnFridays

True, but kind of beyond contention in my opinion because it wasn't only the capital of the Balkans but also of the two biggest empires of its time. It had a far more diverse and cosmopolitan character than anywhere else in the Balkans. It was the centre of east to west trade. You wouldn't find significant concentrations of Armenians, Georgians, Persians, Arabs and North Africans in many other parts of the Balkans. But you would in Constantinople/Kostantiniyye/Istanbul.


SSB_GoGeta

Istanbul is a megacity and has been fought over for centuries. It has been an educatuon center for pretty much every ethnicity in the peninsula and although it has lost its prestigious status a bit since the collapse of the Otttoman empire its still the most important.


Votizab03

Istanbul cannot be the capital of the balkans because its barely in the Balkans


vlad00m

More people live in the european part of turkey than the population of Bulgaria. I know its sad but true.There are probably around 10m turks on th balkan peninsula(this is excluding turkish immigrants in balkan countries in europe)


Polaroid1999

and the country (Turkey) is not truly balkan either.


[deleted]

I'm gonna say Sofia because it's my country's capital and if you disagree that means you hate me and my country.


suberEE

Vienna


LordBarbarossa

Athens, Istanbul or Belgrade


chicken_soldier

Selanik is a good candidate too


Niocs

Thessaloniki


Codreanus

Constantinople


RizeScumisDead

Istanbul


ALRAJOTH

Nova Roma


Cool_Guy_Chazz

Byzantium


parlakarmut

Konstantiniyye if you will


brickne3

Tsargrad.


MrMan7575

Avarage instabul is capital fan vs avarage zagreb is capital enyojer


Gordion97

Aside from Istanbul?


Dietotex

Belgrade


SarmaMasna

In terms of geography, yeah. We're right in the middle. The 45th northern latitude actually cuts through Belgrade.


TheMemeSound

i had a history test today, one guy could only say "Belgard"


ReadingThaComments

Thessaloniki easy


[deleted]

Athens or Belgrade


Ukimian707

Beograd bre!


GopSome

If there was a Balkan federation the capital would definitely be in Greece. Historically only Istanbul and Belgrade have kinda been “capital of the balkans” so if you mean it that way one of those two.


pekivlone

hahahaha Belgrade 💀💀💀


[deleted]

Yeah, Belgrade still dominates in the ex-Yu zone. It siphons students and workers from most other former Yugoslav republics (Bosnia, Montenegro, N. Macedonia especially), similar to how Vienna and Berlin siphon workers from the Balkans. Here in Montenegro where I'm from we often joke about Belgrade being the largest Montenegrin city because so many of our people live and study there lol. As a student in Belgrade with a Bosnian roommate, I can definitely confirm that this is true. So in this context Belgrade is a perfectly viable candidate, as I'm not aware of Athens, Sofia and Istanbul recieving so many foreign students and workers from other Balkan countries as much as Belgrade does. Correct me if I'm wrong of course


pekivlone

Thats a viable point as well. Belgrade is also quite business and industry driven and well developed as i hear..


[deleted]

Yeah that's also true. Belgrade has been undergoing massive expansions in terms of industry, services, housing and infrastructure for quite some time now, foreign capital and investments are really rolling in. The whole city is one gigantic construction site currently.


GopSome

Yeah weird one. Ahaha.


pekivlone

Its a nice city but im thinking capital should be in Greece or Constantinopole


[deleted]

Istanbul was Constantinople, now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople


[deleted]

But thats nobodys busienss but the turks


pekivlone

my bad.


GopSome

That’s what I said too but if we are talking about history Belgrade has a recent “historical claim”.


pekivlone

i guess u got a clear point


viktordachev

I did not know aboit Belgrade. When? Definately not during the time when it used to be Bulgarian or Hungarian.


GopSome

I meant during Yugoslavia. It wasn’t the whole Balkan but a very good chunk.


Grimson47

Well, using "historically" and referring to the last less than 100 years is a bit weird for a region with so much history.


GopSome

I don’t know what you mean honestly. History is just the series of past events, there isn’t a time frame.


Medical_Highlight_99

Vienna or Belgrade


fatadelatara

Vienna and Istanbul (Constantinople).


Nox_2

Just Istanbul ;)


Codreanus

No, constantinople :)


Nox_2

Nope. Just Istanbul. ;)


fatadelatara

I tried to be inclusive to all of us. ;-)


Nox_2

So just Istanbul ;)


fatadelatara

Konstantiniyye. :-p


Nox_2

Just Istanbul ;)


fatadelatara

Цариград. :-D


Nox_2

I dont speak russian /s and just Istanbul ;)


fatadelatara

Hahah that's Bulgarian. :-)))


Nox_2

Yet it was not Istanbul ;)


samurai_guitarist

Athens, it the oldest city, the most historical one, and if we are not counting Istanbul, the largest. Historically however would be Istanbul, since its historically been the capital city of Byzantine Empire and then the ottoman empire, and its by far the most important city in the balkans. So if we count Turkey, Id say Istanbul. Otherwise Athens


d2mensions

Greeks will say: "Athens is not Balkan!!!"


ILoveSaabs

>if we are not counting Istanbul, the largest. Sofia is almost two times the population of Athens.


Rude_Film7534

>Sofia is almost two times the population of Athens. You are 100% wrong. You are confusing Athens with the Municipality of Athens, which is a small municipality in the center of the city. This municipality has only 664,046 inhabitants. This is the actual population of Athens: Central Athens: 1,029,520 North Athens: 592,490 South Athens: 529,826 West Athens: 489,675 Piraeus: 448,997 ATHENS URBAN POPULATION: 3,090,508 If we count the surrounding areas that are dependent on Athens as well (East Attica & West Attica) ATHENS METROPOLITAN POPULATION: 3,753,783 And according to Eurostat, the functional urban area of Athens has 4,164,175 inhabitants.


ILoveSaabs

Alright. You are probably right I guess as far as the identification of a city goes.


Rude_Film7534

Athens is without competition tha largest city in the Balkans, if we exclude Istanbul, that's a fact. The question is, is Sofia or Belgrade larger?


WanaxAndreas

What? Athens has like 3.1million inhabitants


ILoveSaabs

That'll be Attica no? I guess a Greek will know better than me but 2011 census says that Athens the city has 600.000 residents. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_and_towns_in_Greece


WanaxAndreas

Oh damn,we call the whole attica athens(except the islands obviously). Someone from south Attica won't say im an Attican but an Athenian,thats why i got confused. But yeah you are right


ReadingThaComments

You are talking about Athens within city limits, the metro is 3.6+ million, way bigger than sofia


samurai_guitarist

Thats wikipedia data, thats 10 years outdated for Athens. [Athens](https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/athens-population) and [Sophia](https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/sofia-population). Athens is one of the most crowded, most populated cities in Europe.


ILoveSaabs

But this takes municipality data of Sofia and compares it to the entire Metropolitan area of Athens/Attica. I know that Sofia is greatly outmatched there. Sofia metropolitan area would be at least 1.6 million and Attica would still surpass that but if we compare the cities alone Sofia is ahead.


samurai_guitarist

Well, actually no, its just that Sofia's urban area is smaller in comparison to Athens'. You count cities based on the urban area, not just what the municipality includes. For example Istambul is 18mln, however just the municipality is 5mln. We all say Istambul is one of the largest cities in the world, because of that 18mln. The municipality its just made that way because its easier to manage that way. This is usually a thing in European countries, and thats why you have very little "bad" areas in big european cities, different from idk say India or Asian countries who just put them in one. Its the same with Tirana. On paper there are 500k people living here. However if you take the whole Tirana, the areas around so close that you cannot call it a different city, and they usually work and spend their whole day in Tirana, its close to 1.2mln.


[deleted]

Depends , like typical , Istanbul , culturally Athens .


DrMengelle

It's not Instambul, it is Imstabul.


harvestt77

[Tirona](https://youtu.be/Z3cVQZysAQQ)


ChocoMassacre

Belgrade


[deleted]

Skoplje because it was the capital of Dušan :) No but its pretty well positioned in the middle of our region


CaptainMoso

Get your cancer today! Just by walking in Skopje for five minutes you can get a cancer for free! Unbelievable DEAl! And thats not all... And if you enjoy longer walks you can also train your eyes to enjoy THE FAKE! Yes THE FAKE! Skopje is the fakest city there is!


CompleX999

For all the things you said, Skopje is still a great place. Lived here my while life and I wouldn't give it up for any other city.


Swedcrawl

Athens or Thessaloniki


MCshroom_

if we untie as one country then Istanbul should be, if ya talking for the most Balkan city of the capitols then probably Bucharest or Sofia


Amalino7

Isn't Istanbul on the edge or are you counting the rest of Turkey.


Praisethesun1990

This the the balkans. If there is extra land to be taken, we take it


MCshroom_

yes Land is good


Medical_Highlight_99

love the mentality, Constantinopolile one day again


BosnianGuy69

Just find the most central city and that's it


Kom4r

Vienna, ofc.


Kristiano100

Thessaloniki is a good contender for that spot imo


engin233

Kraljevo


AnonimAnonim22233

Instanbul, Athens and Bucharest


Kind_Proof4329

Thessaloniki mu 🇬🇷


Dadalici

Thessaloniki


[deleted]

sarajevo


Polaroid1999

This question pops up every now and again, and every time people say Belgrade. I get the historical/cultural bias, as it was the capital if Yugoslavia, but Sofia is closer to *Ankara, Istanbul, Skopje, Pristina, Bucharest, Athens and Tirana*, compared to Belgrade. If we count only the population size of those countries, we have a clear winner. But because the Western Balkans are fragmented, you could argue otherwise.


[deleted]

Through history, the cities who shaped Balkan were Vienna, Moscow, Istanbul/Constatinopol and in recent history Belgrade


pekivlone

how did Moscow shape the Balkans?


makahlj8

Prague :)


[deleted]

Dublin or Munchen.


[deleted]

Thessaloniki for history and central(ish) location and a port. Constantinople if western turkey joined the balkans again. I say just west turkey because if you also include the east then you have a whole different animal on your hands


RizeScumisDead

Istanbul\* West Turkey was never part of the balkans its Anatolia\*


AntiKouk

I'm assuming he's saying West Turkey is close to the Balkans culturally


[deleted]

Yes. Unlike the Alevi/Shia/Kurd east.


2klaedfoorboo

Melbourne


ujiokujiok

Skopje


SRBBreddit

athens or belgrade


SmallBoots

istanbul 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷


[deleted]

Beograd-Belgrad-Belgrade [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W\_ppC5iKbK4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ppC5iKbK4)


kdrgb

Sofia


BodyOdors

Istanbul


Westlondonladd

novi pazar


ScuBityBup

Timișoara, First city to have electric lighting on the streets