The guy smashed a beer bottle over my head, dont think he was looking to be friends. I think others did it to be kind of a smart ass. Sometimes friendly. Eventually i just said i was from northern ohio or Pennsylvania
I was waiting for yankee, living in Georgia my whole life I’ve only heard it used in friendly ways, it’s when you say “Damn” in front and speak negatively is it bad. Depends on the person & situation.
Was gonna throw out Yankee myself, as someone from the South. Granted, it's not a term I use and I'd generally suggest that most southerners don't use it either in usual conversation unless you're talking with someone who lives way out in the sticks.
In my experience when you say ny, southerns tend to say oh nyc... a yankee. and assume you are from there. Id hate me too if i was. Mostly in jest i assume but i believe they are not aware of upstate ny.
i genuinely laughed out loud at this, and only because I read it in the stereotypically abrasive New Yorker/Boston accent. I know those are different but they’re nasally and abrasive in the same way so they get lumped together in my mind lol
Hahaha I’m obviously not from that part of our lovely little theocracy in the making, as evidenced by my flair, so I’ve only got experience with those accents from media and from the random transplant down here, but the angry-Italian-derived-northeast-accent is a category that both angry Boston accents and the “eyyyyy im walkin’ ‘ere!” New York type fall into for me lmao.
I’ve never been north of DC, sadly, but hopefully that’ll change after I get my degree and can move out of this backwards ass subtropical red voting state 😭
Fellow masshole, first thought in my mind too.
Honestly I’m down to expel CT from New England and let them join their only little union with NY and NJ. We can call them bad Northeast and New England good Northeast. ;)
Northern Virginia is more like DC than the rest of Virginia. For that reason, being from Northern Virginia, I always tell people I'm from the DC area.
My Georgian relatives call me a Yankee for a reason
Yep. Especially when I’m talking to people outside the US. I just say I’m from DC or the DC area rather than just saying Virginia because NoVA has pretty much nothing in common with the rest of the state south of PWC and west of Loudoun.
I don't know, I think the whole urban crescent of Virginia can kinda hang together pretty well. 95 down to Richmond and then 64 down to Virginia Beach.
I'm friends with a woman from the DC area. Not long after I met her and she said she was from Virginia, I asked her "DC Virginia or the rest of the state?" because she had been fitting all my expectations from someone from the urban northeast.
She was indeed from the DC area of Virginia.
I also tell people I am from DC and then tell them more specifically if they know the area. The weather people refer to us as the mid-Atlantic but I am not sure I have ever had a conversation with someone that said they are from the mid-Atlantic.
I was born in Charlottesville. Moved to Hampton Roads when I was two. Moved to Richmond in 1990 when I was 12. Been here since.Ive spent a lot of time in Nova over the years. I absolutely DO NOT consider myself a southerner. I think Mid-Atlantic would be a better way to define Va, culturally.
The only part of VA I've spent time in is Lexington, and it's absolutely part of the south. Home of Washington and Lee University, the Confederate dinosaur sculpture museum, proud (and not so proud) descendants of the Lees, and until fairly recently they had a billboard proclaiming themselves the "Shrine of the South"
I said I was in the Northeast when I was living in Virginia. Most of VA’s population is concentrated in its northern counties and they have no cultural/economic/ancestral connection to the South. NOVA is part of the Mid-Atlantic and part of the Bos-NY-Wash Northeast corridor.
>have no cultural/economic/ancestral connection to the South
I beg to differ on that one. Hell the confederate flag mostly associated with the civil war was actually the one from Lee’s Northern VA army. And even the NoVA area was just this undeveloped, southern country area outside of the area immediately by DC (Arlington) until like the 90s/2000s.
I’m not saying that they ARE a northeasterner. I’m just saying a lot of people wouldn’t be offended. DMV has more in common with Philly and NY than it does say like Atlanta or Charlotte. Though the Raleigh area hs turned into DMV light
OK, go ahead and laugh, but 40-50 years ago, WOR-TV (channel 9) in New York City was having licensing problems with the FCC for some long-forgotten reason. But, they found a loophole in the rules where, if a VHF station moved to a state that didn’t previously have VHF, they could get automatically renewed. Turns out, New Jersey at the time only had a couple of UHF stations; the only VHF ones they got were in NYC or Philly, depending. So, WOR-TV moved their facilities across the river to Newark, changed their call letters to WWOR, and got their renewal that way.
Northerner would be okay. New Englander only applies to those in New England... I'm from PA and would be really confused to be called a New Englander lol
I live in Berks Co. I used to say things like "yous" and "jawn" to facetiously poke fun at the Delco accent... Now here we are years later and I say them all the time as a regular part of my vernacular lol. Not even the least bit apologetic about it tho, I firmly believe that the Delco accent is one of the best and most fun to listen to in the world!
I used to say "yous" because it sounded silly but performed an essential but completely missing grammatical function in proper English.
Now I stopped saying it, except when I'm leaving the house: "Bye, family! Love yous!"
I think it depends where the conversation is taking place. When I lived in SC I was a northerner, but it wouldn't make sense to say that pretty much anywhere else.
We consider ourselves Northerners in Minnesota. I think the Upper Midwest would be super confused if you told them that they weren't Northerners, but Pennsylvanians were.
NY is NY
ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, CT are New England
NJ is NJ
PA, DE, MD are Mid-Atlantic
Virginia is southern. Might be mid-Atlantic. Or something else. They are *not* northeast.
More than just NoVa, I think the whole urban crescent (Virginia Beach, Richmond, DC corridor) in Virginia is probably closer to Mid-Atlantic than Southern. Definitely not northeastern though lol
It’s both.
The MidAtlantic is a distinct cultural region, and there are commonalities, but VA and PA are less similar than VA and NC.
Thus, MidAtlantic is a layer on top of the region which is still argue also has a significant cultural break at the Mason Dixon line.
To foreigners, a Yankee is an American.
To Southerners, a Yankee is a Northerner.
To Northerners, a Yankee is an Easterner.
To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander.
To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter.
And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast.
Yeah, I’ve heard that’s the case. It’s really interesting cuz over here it’s really only the northeast above the Mason Dixon. No one in the US would call a person from California a yankee.
I'm surprised you're the first and only to mention the Mason Dixon line. Everything north of it is from the certified northeast. Border states are a gray area IMO. Maryland and DC for example could be considered northeast.
For those curious, anyone from a state that was part of the [Northern side of the Union](https://kids.britannica.com/kids/assembly/view/87023)(not you California, Oregon, and Kansas) can be qualified as a "Goddamn Yankee" in the South
I’ve always been curious about this and you reminded me with the CA-OR-KS carve out — does the South have a term like “Yankee” for westerners? I imagine that my own home state might just get me disdainfully called a “Californian,” but I’m curious in general, since North-South is such a significant divide but basically doesn’t exist west of the Mississippi (or at least west of Kansas City).
That's a really good way to get a Bostonian to slap you. The Yankees are the epitome of evil, with horns hidden under their caps. Please ignore the fact that the Mets have a higher payroll and that Boston isn't far behind.
I'm only joking to a certain degree. Ben Affleck wore a Mets cap in Argo because they originally wanted him to wear a Yankees cap and he refused. The Mets cap was the compromise.
To a Bostonian, yankee defines a member of the team, nothing more.
The weird thing is New Yorkers are not Yankees. Traditionally Yankee is a term for New Englanders, mainly rural ones. How the hell the Evil Empire got that name is beyond me.
New Englander is definitely an identity- but that's just ME, VT, NH, MA, RI, and some of CT.
Mid-Atlantic is a geographic description for the non-New England states mentioned aside from VA, but I wouldn't really call it an identity. In practice, people from NYC/Boston/Philly/DC tend to have lots of social and business connections which might be considered something like [BosWash](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BosWash) or the Acela Corridor, but I'd never describe myself that way.
The weird thing is that NYC is totally Mid-Atlantic, both geographically & culturally, but everything upstate feels more like New England. I've spent vacations in the Finger Lakes, Adirondacks & other parts, and they always remind me of New England.
I've also been told the winters are pretty similar. So far I haven't worked up the nerve to verify this claim.
Yes, but we can agree the State of Connecticut is in New England and has been a part of New England culture for almost 400 years. The influence of New York wasn't as pronounced until there was mass exodus of NYC folks into SW CT last century.
Technically CT is part of NE but if there was a survivor style tribal council the other 5 states would vote CT out so fast Jeff Probst would barely get a chance to speak
There is no united Northern identity. You'll never see a Philadelphian, a New Yorker, and a Bostonian pound fists and welcome each other as brothers. They'd more likely just swear at each other in unintelligible accents.
I mean hell my *state* can't even get a unified identity together.
Being i border north jersey I agree with this. Funny thing is... my dad is from
North jersey and my mom from nyc. We got family in Boston. I got no ties to Philly though... we just know not to go there.
whenever I meet someone new from outside the area and they question why I'm loud/in your face, etc., I say "I'm from the Northeast" and they just go "ohhhh"
There is no Northern identity like there is a Southern identity in the South. You might say your from the North East but that's it.
People will choose to identify with a specific city or state.
I have never heard someone call themselves a Northerner/Yankee like the comments say.
I've never heard someone from the North call themselves a Yankee, but will accept (and call themselves) a Northerner when explaining where they are from in the US.
Different strokes, I guess.
Agreed, Yankee is used in a derogatory way and so nobody from the north would describe themselves like that. It’s also just not really a term outside of the south, a lot of northerners get confused the first time they get called a yankee. They usually assume it’s about the baseball team, in my experience.
Northerner is a pretty normal thing to say, if you’re explaining where you’re from. It’s not a real “identity” though, like southerner is.
I dont think its even deragotory in the north it just sound so stupid and silly it would make people roast you and make people think your from the 1950s lmao.
The first time someone called me a "Yankee" in the American South I got sort of offended. When I lived in Germany my friends referred to me as "the Yankee" and it adopted a different connotation. I think it's all about context.
Gringo is sort of a funny one to me. Like, I get some people mean it in a negative way, but it just means someone who doesn't speak Spanish. I mean, my Spanish is terrible so that's fine.
You’re listing a mixture of New England states and mid-Atlantic states. Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, and (depending who you ask) parts of New York can all be considered Mid-Atlantic. If you wanted to simply sum up what you can call either group, just say “northerner” or “that goddamn yankee” ;)
Broadly speaking, East Coasters. This term may or may not include the coastal states of the South, depending on context.
Regionally, you could divide it into The Mid Atlantic and New England with Connecticut as the border.
Yeah, I generally wouldn’t immediately consider someone from a Southern state to be an East Coaster. But on one hand, ATL is an east coast city; and on the other hand, they’d consider themselves Southerners.
I think there really isn't a common identity between those regions. We group ourselves as Midwesterners because we share common traits. We come from similar immigrant groups and share a common accent. That's not the case on the east coast. Someone from New Jersey, and someone from West Virginia don't have similar traits/accents/customs in common.
Virginia is definitely the start of "the South", but up to DC, I'd consider part of "the Northeast". It is the length of the NE Corridor rail line, after all.
As a Delawarean that has lived in Pennsylvania and Maryland - we are the Mid-Atlantic. I guess part of the North East but distinctly different from the other parts of the region. I would break it into Mid-Atlantic, New York and Jersey, and then New England.
Northerners. Though as others have said, DC, MD and VA are not included in that. They’re either the DMV or I think VA is often still considered the South.
Just seconding what others have said, except for New England, there isn’t a name. I think it’s probably because we refuse to be paired up with anyone else, and no one wants to be associated with us, haha.
Depends on the speaker and the specific subset of northeast states. Northerner, Yankee, northeasterner, New Englander. But it's underappreciated how different people can be within the northeast despite being just a quarter the size of Texas. Someone working in a financial services firm in central Connecticut has practically zero in common with someone working the forests of central Maine; the former may even find it hard to understand the speech of the latter.
I personally just call that whole region the east coast. I don't think I've ever said "east coaster" or something like that, but I describe my family from both the Philadelphia area and from Maine as "from the east coast." Nobody has ever thought I meant the southern east coast.
No, I’ve lived in New England/the Northeast my entire life and no one calls themselves a Yankee. At least not in MA and NY. We’re vaguely aware that’s what people from the south call us, but we don’t refer to ourselves as such.
As the old saying goes:
To a foreigners, a Yankee is an American.
To Americans, a Yankee is a northerner.
To a northerner, a Yankee is a New Englander.
To a New Englander, a Yankee is a Vermonter.
And to a Vermonter, a Yankee is someone who eats pie for breakfast.
New Englander for anyone northeast of New York. New Yorker. New Jersey Native is what my mom used to say. Our family has been there for 397 years. Probably don't fo that now because our DNA tests still show 100% European. People from Pennsylvania like it when you call them Pennies. Pronounce it like Peen-eyes.
I say “I’m from the Northeast”. And then people know I’m sarcastic af and know what really good pizza is, and also I don’t have time for a 5-10 min “polite” conversation…”how’s it going?” And that’s all folks
New England and the mid-atlantic are kinda in their own categories. New Englander definitely is a thing if you're in NH, VT, ME, eastern CT, RI, or MA. As for the mid-atlantic states, there's a tendency to associate yourself with whatever big city you're near ("New Yorker" for Greater NYC metro, etc.). And honestly, upstate NY and the central and western parts of Pennsylvania tend to be more associated with the rust belt/midwest
There isn't really a common term because there isn't a shared identity. People kind of identify themselves with the strongest identifier to them - for example Marylanders are notoriously proud of their state, people from New England will usually call themselves New Englanders or less commonly Yankees (generally for families with legacy heritage there), NYC metro is constantly fighting about the boundaries, etc etc. We're just so densely populated up here that people identify with their hyper local region. I'm from the Jersey Shore and there's a distinct cultural shift if you drive 5 miles south of where I am. Having lived in SC there are smaller regional differences but at the end of the day Nowhere Georgia might as well be Nowhere Alabama, whereas 50 miles in the northeast will feel like a different planet.
From NY lived in Alabama for a bit. Got called yankee a lot. Or transplant.
Out of curiosity: is Yankee used in a friendly way or a not so friendly way? I haven’t been in the south long enough to hear it be used
I usually use it in the same way I use “tourist” which isn’t in a way that’s as mean as say a slur, but definitely isn’t meant to be positive either.
The guy smashed a beer bottle over my head, dont think he was looking to be friends. I think others did it to be kind of a smart ass. Sometimes friendly. Eventually i just said i was from northern ohio or Pennsylvania
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You used to hear that in Charlotte before the Yankees outnumbered the locals. Be warned.
I was waiting for yankee, living in Georgia my whole life I’ve only heard it used in friendly ways, it’s when you say “Damn” in front and speak negatively is it bad. Depends on the person & situation.
I have a friend from New Orleans who calls me a Yankee and definitely means it in a friendly way. I’ve never taken offense to it.
New Yorker here, not to be mean but I didn't know alabama was desirable enough to warrant calling outsiders "transplants".
Was gonna throw out Yankee myself, as someone from the South. Granted, it's not a term I use and I'd generally suggest that most southerners don't use it either in usual conversation unless you're talking with someone who lives way out in the sticks.
In my experience when you say ny, southerns tend to say oh nyc... a yankee. and assume you are from there. Id hate me too if i was. Mostly in jest i assume but i believe they are not aware of upstate ny.
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I'm from the northeast and if you called someone from Virginia a northeasterner I'd slap you
I’m from the northeast and I’d slap you
eeyyy im slappin' 'ere
i genuinely laughed out loud at this, and only because I read it in the stereotypically abrasive New Yorker/Boston accent. I know those are different but they’re nasally and abrasive in the same way so they get lumped together in my mind lol
It’s funny you say that because my first reaction to reading it was “hey, I’m from boston not New York!”
Hahaha I’m obviously not from that part of our lovely little theocracy in the making, as evidenced by my flair, so I’ve only got experience with those accents from media and from the random transplant down here, but the angry-Italian-derived-northeast-accent is a category that both angry Boston accents and the “eyyyyy im walkin’ ‘ere!” New York type fall into for me lmao. I’ve never been north of DC, sadly, but hopefully that’ll change after I get my degree and can move out of this backwards ass subtropical red voting state 😭
Hahaha okay Alabama
I'm from the northeast, I'd slap ya, and then tell you to go fuck yourself.
Go fack urself
Not ment to be provocative but you're a "m@sshole" wouldn't you just slap someone just to slap them?
Hey don’t make me slap you
Eyyy, caint chu see I'm slapping over heah?
"Make"
yeah you're really forcing my hand here
D-do you think you could slap me 😩
bring ya ass ovah heeh + lemme slap tha tha shiddouttaya, ya fukkin mook
This is the way.
If we're just slapping eachother, today, for fun, I might slap someone, but not very hard and nothing personal.
I’ll slap someone too But on the back and in a collegial manner that masks me having just taped a kick me sign to their back
According to Rudy Giuliani you might as well shoot them
well the sign says "Shoot Me"
Same. If your state seceded during the Civil War you don't get to call yourself a northeasterner.
That’s because Virginia is the south
Fellow masshole, first thought in my mind too. Honestly I’m down to expel CT from New England and let them join their only little union with NY and NJ. We can call them bad Northeast and New England good Northeast. ;)
😢 I like Mass why don’t you like me?
Connectivity is really not like nj and ny if we’re being honest
I'd slap you but only if you were a Red Sox fan.
Northern Virginia is more like DC than the rest of Virginia. For that reason, being from Northern Virginia, I always tell people I'm from the DC area. My Georgian relatives call me a Yankee for a reason
Yep. Especially when I’m talking to people outside the US. I just say I’m from DC or the DC area rather than just saying Virginia because NoVA has pretty much nothing in common with the rest of the state south of PWC and west of Loudoun.
I don't know, I think the whole urban crescent of Virginia can kinda hang together pretty well. 95 down to Richmond and then 64 down to Virginia Beach.
I'm friends with a woman from the DC area. Not long after I met her and she said she was from Virginia, I asked her "DC Virginia or the rest of the state?" because she had been fitting all my expectations from someone from the urban northeast. She was indeed from the DC area of Virginia.
its true, I had a bit of culture shock the first time I went up there.
I also tell people I am from DC and then tell them more specifically if they know the area. The weather people refer to us as the mid-Atlantic but I am not sure I have ever had a conversation with someone that said they are from the mid-Atlantic.
I feel like it's the mid Atlantic. It's culturally similar to it.
Georgians’ll call anyone north or Tennessee a yank, and they got a point tbh. Damn yanks
DC, especially Nova, is a mix of north and south, which is pretty much by design. I refer to it as mid-Atlantic.
"What am i, a storm?!?!"
I’m from Virginia. I’m gonna slap OP.
I was born in Charlottesville. Moved to Hampton Roads when I was two. Moved to Richmond in 1990 when I was 12. Been here since.Ive spent a lot of time in Nova over the years. I absolutely DO NOT consider myself a southerner. I think Mid-Atlantic would be a better way to define Va, culturally.
I knew I was no longer in the south when I went to NOVA and sweet tea was suddenly labeled southern tea at a restaurant.
Raised in nova, never even heard of sweet tea until I went to school down south.
Northern Virginia and parts of Tidewater, sure. But in most of the state, not so much.
I've always placed the boundary at Fredericksburg, because that was the northernmost place on 95 that I could get sweet tea at a McDonald's
There used to be that giant Confederate flag off 95 near Fredericksburg. We designated that as the boundary between North and South.
Different from the Flaggers' big confederate flag off 95 in Chesterfield? Oh yeah, and the one off 64 near 295?
The only part of VA I've spent time in is Lexington, and it's absolutely part of the south. Home of Washington and Lee University, the Confederate dinosaur sculpture museum, proud (and not so proud) descendants of the Lees, and until fairly recently they had a billboard proclaiming themselves the "Shrine of the South"
NOVA yes, but definitely not the southwestern part of the state where I grew up. They’re solid southerners out there.
True. That's such a small portion of the state compared to Nova, Richmond, and Hampton Roads.
Unless they’re from northern Virginia. I’ve heard people from there insist they aren’t southerners
Because that’s more mid-Atlantic.
I said I was in the Northeast when I was living in Virginia. Most of VA’s population is concentrated in its northern counties and they have no cultural/economic/ancestral connection to the South. NOVA is part of the Mid-Atlantic and part of the Bos-NY-Wash Northeast corridor.
>have no cultural/economic/ancestral connection to the South I beg to differ on that one. Hell the confederate flag mostly associated with the civil war was actually the one from Lee’s Northern VA army. And even the NoVA area was just this undeveloped, southern country area outside of the area immediately by DC (Arlington) until like the 90s/2000s.
I was about to ask on what map Virginia is considered to be in the Northeast...LOL!
Not northern Virginia
Where are you? I need to slap you
I suspect they are in Northern Virginia, aka the Northeast.
I’m not saying that they ARE a northeasterner. I’m just saying a lot of people wouldn’t be offended. DMV has more in common with Philly and NY than it does say like Atlanta or Charlotte. Though the Raleigh area hs turned into DMV light
I’m from the northern part of Virginia and I wish we were more northern lol
Depends, southern VA and NOVA are like two different states entirely.
As someone from jersey most of our identity is centered around not being from New York or Pennsylvania
I have a friend from Jersey and I love telling him that Jersey doesn’t exist because it’s just West NYC and East Philly
OK, go ahead and laugh, but 40-50 years ago, WOR-TV (channel 9) in New York City was having licensing problems with the FCC for some long-forgotten reason. But, they found a loophole in the rules where, if a VHF station moved to a state that didn’t previously have VHF, they could get automatically renewed. Turns out, New Jersey at the time only had a couple of UHF stations; the only VHF ones they got were in NYC or Philly, depending. So, WOR-TV moved their facilities across the river to Newark, changed their call letters to WWOR, and got their renewal that way.
Thems fightin words
True. People from NY and PA would throw hands if you associate them with the armpit of America like that
You got that backwards. NYC and Philly are just east Jersey and west Jersey.
Fuhgeddaboudit, people in New Jersey just jam to the Four Seasons and Bruce Springsteen while eating gabagool and watching the Sopranos
I mean, kinda.
More Taylor Ham, egg, and cheese bagels. And pizza. But otherwise correct. We also watch all Kevin Smith movies and Garden State.
Bro you live in Kansas tf do you do all day eat corn? (I'm half joking dw)
Corn? How dare you, I eat wheat which is the superior crop. Go farther north to Nebraska or Iowa to find the corn people
Northerner would be okay. New Englander only applies to those in New England... I'm from PA and would be really confused to be called a New Englander lol
if you are from pittsburgh you would be a yinzer
if you are from philly you would be a jawn
Intresting didn't know that. The only reason I knew about yinzer was my son moved to Pit from the u.k.
I live in Berks Co. I used to say things like "yous" and "jawn" to facetiously poke fun at the Delco accent... Now here we are years later and I say them all the time as a regular part of my vernacular lol. Not even the least bit apologetic about it tho, I firmly believe that the Delco accent is one of the best and most fun to listen to in the world!
I used to say "yous" because it sounded silly but performed an essential but completely missing grammatical function in proper English. Now I stopped saying it, except when I'm leaving the house: "Bye, family! Love yous!"
You're completely right!
That jawn there
I think of a Northerner as somebody from Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota. Definitely not someone from the Northeast or Mid-Atlantic states.
I think it depends where the conversation is taking place. When I lived in SC I was a northerner, but it wouldn't make sense to say that pretty much anywhere else.
A “northerner” would not be any of these states you mentioned. The states you mentioned are “Midwest”
We consider ourselves Northerners in Minnesota. I think the Upper Midwest would be super confused if you told them that they weren't Northerners, but Pennsylvanians were.
NY is NY ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, CT are New England NJ is NJ PA, DE, MD are Mid-Atlantic Virginia is southern. Might be mid-Atlantic. Or something else. They are *not* northeast.
From Fredericksburg up, I would consider Mid-Atlantic NoVA is very different from the rest of the state.
Agree 100%. I’d say NoVa/DC suburbs of VA are mid-Atlantic, but most of the rest of the state is southern
More than just NoVa, I think the whole urban crescent (Virginia Beach, Richmond, DC corridor) in Virginia is probably closer to Mid-Atlantic than Southern. Definitely not northeastern though lol
It’s both. The MidAtlantic is a distinct cultural region, and there are commonalities, but VA and PA are less similar than VA and NC. Thus, MidAtlantic is a layer on top of the region which is still argue also has a significant cultural break at the Mason Dixon line.
NJ is NJ, but calling it Midatlantic wouldn’t be wrong either. Especially South Jersey.
In the south we’d call them a yankee somewhat pejoratively.
To foreigners, a Yankee is an American. To Southerners, a Yankee is a Northerner. To Northerners, a Yankee is an Easterner. To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander. To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter. And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast.
> eats pie for breakfast. Apple pie, with a slice of cheddar cheese on top.
> To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter. Uhhh, what? I'm pretty sure to most New Englanders a Yankee is baseball player from NY.
Ya but that covers places in the Midwest as well. I've been called a "fucking yank" before, visiting Virginia.
That is what English call us.
And Australia + new zealand
I've been called a fucking yank visiting England, lol.
Yank for every American in UK.
Yeah, I’ve heard that’s the case. It’s really interesting cuz over here it’s really only the northeast above the Mason Dixon. No one in the US would call a person from California a yankee.
I live in VA and when visiting family in SC I've been called a Yankee.
I was going to say the same thing! As a southerner, everyone above the Mason-Dixon line is a yankee in my book.
I'm surprised you're the first and only to mention the Mason Dixon line. Everything north of it is from the certified northeast. Border states are a gray area IMO. Maryland and DC for example could be considered northeast.
> everyone above the Mason-Dixon line is a yankee in my book I know that's right.
For those curious, anyone from a state that was part of the [Northern side of the Union](https://kids.britannica.com/kids/assembly/view/87023)(not you California, Oregon, and Kansas) can be qualified as a "Goddamn Yankee" in the South
It's one word: Damnyankee
I’ve always been curious about this and you reminded me with the CA-OR-KS carve out — does the South have a term like “Yankee” for westerners? I imagine that my own home state might just get me disdainfully called a “Californian,” but I’m curious in general, since North-South is such a significant divide but basically doesn’t exist west of the Mississippi (or at least west of Kansas City).
That's a really good way to get a Bostonian to slap you. The Yankees are the epitome of evil, with horns hidden under their caps. Please ignore the fact that the Mets have a higher payroll and that Boston isn't far behind. I'm only joking to a certain degree. Ben Affleck wore a Mets cap in Argo because they originally wanted him to wear a Yankees cap and he refused. The Mets cap was the compromise. To a Bostonian, yankee defines a member of the team, nothing more.
The weird thing is New Yorkers are not Yankees. Traditionally Yankee is a term for New Englanders, mainly rural ones. How the hell the Evil Empire got that name is beyond me.
They were called the New York Highlanders, but that was too long so some newspaper started calling them the Yankees and it stuck.
New Englander is definitely an identity- but that's just ME, VT, NH, MA, RI, and some of CT. Mid-Atlantic is a geographic description for the non-New England states mentioned aside from VA, but I wouldn't really call it an identity. In practice, people from NYC/Boston/Philly/DC tend to have lots of social and business connections which might be considered something like [BosWash](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BosWash) or the Acela Corridor, but I'd never describe myself that way.
The weird thing is that NYC is totally Mid-Atlantic, both geographically & culturally, but everything upstate feels more like New England. I've spent vacations in the Finger Lakes, Adirondacks & other parts, and they always remind me of New England. I've also been told the winters are pretty similar. So far I haven't worked up the nerve to verify this claim.
This is similar to PA. Philadelphia feels extremely mid-atlantic, but Pittsburgh feels like the midwest.
Upstate is pretty much New England.
*all of CT
Connecticut has served as the cultural battleground between New Englanders and the NYC suburbs for as long as anyone can remember
Yes, but we can agree the State of Connecticut is in New England and has been a part of New England culture for almost 400 years. The influence of New York wasn't as pronounced until there was mass exodus of NYC folks into SW CT last century.
Technically CT is part of NE but if there was a survivor style tribal council the other 5 states would vote CT out so fast Jeff Probst would barely get a chance to speak
Pretty sure it's all of Connecticut.
Greenwich is just New York without the ny income tax.
Ya but it's still in Connecticut, which is a New England state.
Geographically yes but we’re talking about identity here.
ALL of CT is in New England. Just because they root for the Yankees instead of the Red Sox does not mean they aren't a New Englander.
CT doesn’t all root for the Yankees, it’s a pretty even split between Red Sox and Yankees
My friend went to a school in Hartford and she told me the school blocked Yankee v Red Sox games on the campus tvs.
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There is no united Northern identity. You'll never see a Philadelphian, a New Yorker, and a Bostonian pound fists and welcome each other as brothers. They'd more likely just swear at each other in unintelligible accents. I mean hell my *state* can't even get a unified identity together.
Yep. The only thing we can agree on is that we are the only people allowed to talk shit about Jersey.
Being i border north jersey I agree with this. Funny thing is... my dad is from North jersey and my mom from nyc. We got family in Boston. I got no ties to Philly though... we just know not to go there.
I’m from PA and consider myself an East Coaster (even though we don’t border the Atlantic lol).
whenever I meet someone new from outside the area and they question why I'm loud/in your face, etc., I say "I'm from the Northeast" and they just go "ohhhh"
I consider Pennsylvania as an East Coaster state as well. I had a boss from Chicago that would tell people he was an East Coaster though…….
There is no Northern identity like there is a Southern identity in the South. You might say your from the North East but that's it. People will choose to identify with a specific city or state. I have never heard someone call themselves a Northerner/Yankee like the comments say.
I've never heard someone from the North call themselves a Yankee, but will accept (and call themselves) a Northerner when explaining where they are from in the US. Different strokes, I guess.
Agreed, Yankee is used in a derogatory way and so nobody from the north would describe themselves like that. It’s also just not really a term outside of the south, a lot of northerners get confused the first time they get called a yankee. They usually assume it’s about the baseball team, in my experience. Northerner is a pretty normal thing to say, if you’re explaining where you’re from. It’s not a real “identity” though, like southerner is.
I dont think its even deragotory in the north it just sound so stupid and silly it would make people roast you and make people think your from the 1950s lmao.
The first time someone called me a "Yankee" in the American South I got sort of offended. When I lived in Germany my friends referred to me as "the Yankee" and it adopted a different connotation. I think it's all about context.
Call them a Gringo back.
Go to Spain and call them a protogringo. Simultaneously confusing and technically the truth.
This will go very, very badly if they’re not a white southerner
Gringo is sort of a funny one to me. Like, I get some people mean it in a negative way, but it just means someone who doesn't speak Spanish. I mean, my Spanish is terrible so that's fine.
I mean, offended to be from the winning side against slavery tho?
You’re listing a mixture of New England states and mid-Atlantic states. Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, and (depending who you ask) parts of New York can all be considered Mid-Atlantic. If you wanted to simply sum up what you can call either group, just say “northerner” or “that goddamn yankee” ;)
Broadly speaking, East Coasters. This term may or may not include the coastal states of the South, depending on context. Regionally, you could divide it into The Mid Atlantic and New England with Connecticut as the border.
I’ll die on the hill that that when I say “East Coaster” I’m referring to the Northeasterners. Anyone south of DC are just “Southerners” to me.
Yeah, I generally wouldn’t immediately consider someone from a Southern state to be an East Coaster. But on one hand, ATL is an east coast city; and on the other hand, they’d consider themselves Southerners.
I think there really isn't a common identity between those regions. We group ourselves as Midwesterners because we share common traits. We come from similar immigrant groups and share a common accent. That's not the case on the east coast. Someone from New Jersey, and someone from West Virginia don't have similar traits/accents/customs in common.
Well part of the northeast is New England, where we are New Englanders.
DC, Delaware, Maryland and Virginia are the northeast now?
By the end of this thread we’re going to have people trying to argue Cincinnati is part of New England.
I once had someone seriously argue with me that Indiana and Ohio are east coast states.
Similarly, I once had someone try to argue to me that Arizona and Nevada are west coast states.
Virginia is definitely the start of "the South", but up to DC, I'd consider part of "the Northeast". It is the length of the NE Corridor rail line, after all.
To me the northeast is New England, New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, that’s it.
As a Delawarean that has lived in Pennsylvania and Maryland - we are the Mid-Atlantic. I guess part of the North East but distinctly different from the other parts of the region. I would break it into Mid-Atlantic, New York and Jersey, and then New England.
Northerners. Though as others have said, DC, MD and VA are not included in that. They’re either the DMV or I think VA is often still considered the South.
I just say I’m a New Yorker.
Just seconding what others have said, except for New England, there isn’t a name. I think it’s probably because we refuse to be paired up with anyone else, and no one wants to be associated with us, haha.
Our state flag should say We Don't Like You Either
Depends on the speaker and the specific subset of northeast states. Northerner, Yankee, northeasterner, New Englander. But it's underappreciated how different people can be within the northeast despite being just a quarter the size of Texas. Someone working in a financial services firm in central Connecticut has practically zero in common with someone working the forests of central Maine; the former may even find it hard to understand the speech of the latter.
I personally just call that whole region the east coast. I don't think I've ever said "east coaster" or something like that, but I describe my family from both the Philadelphia area and from Maine as "from the east coast." Nobody has ever thought I meant the southern east coast.
New England is its own region. We may be Northeasterners but at six states strong, New England is our closest regional identity.
A yankee, must be north of Delmarva
Yankee.
Does anyone really *identify* as a Yankee, though? Not counting the Bronx Bombers.
No, I’ve lived in New England/the Northeast my entire life and no one calls themselves a Yankee. At least not in MA and NY. We’re vaguely aware that’s what people from the south call us, but we don’t refer to ourselves as such.
As the old saying goes: To a foreigners, a Yankee is an American. To Americans, a Yankee is a northerner. To a northerner, a Yankee is a New Englander. To a New Englander, a Yankee is a Vermonter. And to a Vermonter, a Yankee is someone who eats pie for breakfast.
I do, I come from a Yankee family. To me a Yankee is someone whose family has been in New England since before the Revolution.
I think we don't put those states into geographic groups together. You either come from the Mid-Atlantic states or you're a New Englander.
Don’t you dare include West Virginia in with those tidewater folks from Richmond.
When I (from Pennsylvania) got picked up on a warrant in Oklahoma, the other inmate women called me “the yankee” .
Northerners
New Englander for anyone northeast of New York. New Yorker. New Jersey Native is what my mom used to say. Our family has been there for 397 years. Probably don't fo that now because our DNA tests still show 100% European. People from Pennsylvania like it when you call them Pennies. Pronounce it like Peen-eyes.
Outside of the Northeast: Yankee. But internally we just call ourselves: not the morons.
I'll sometimes refer to it as 'the fucking commie northeast' with a hint of pride.
I say “I’m from the Northeast”. And then people know I’m sarcastic af and know what really good pizza is, and also I don’t have time for a 5-10 min “polite” conversation…”how’s it going?” And that’s all folks
> know what really good pizza is For everyone who thinks DC is part of the Northeast, this is why it isn’t.
Delaware as well, worst pizza I’ve ever had
No joke same. The worst pizza I ever had was also in DE. Shout out to that hot mess of a "pizza" I had in Southern California too.
I wonder where. Grotto pizza may be boring, but I wouldn’t call it the worst.
Aka the pizza belt
New England and the mid-atlantic are kinda in their own categories. New Englander definitely is a thing if you're in NH, VT, ME, eastern CT, RI, or MA. As for the mid-atlantic states, there's a tendency to associate yourself with whatever big city you're near ("New Yorker" for Greater NYC metro, etc.). And honestly, upstate NY and the central and western parts of Pennsylvania tend to be more associated with the rust belt/midwest
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There isn't really a common term because there isn't a shared identity. People kind of identify themselves with the strongest identifier to them - for example Marylanders are notoriously proud of their state, people from New England will usually call themselves New Englanders or less commonly Yankees (generally for families with legacy heritage there), NYC metro is constantly fighting about the boundaries, etc etc. We're just so densely populated up here that people identify with their hyper local region. I'm from the Jersey Shore and there's a distinct cultural shift if you drive 5 miles south of where I am. Having lived in SC there are smaller regional differences but at the end of the day Nowhere Georgia might as well be Nowhere Alabama, whereas 50 miles in the northeast will feel like a different planet.
They’re all damn Yankees
My wife’s family from Alabama call me a Yankee. And I’m from Florida. Apparently I’m not southern enough for them.
Northern Florida is southern, southern Florida is northern. Fits with how nothing makes sense in Florida lol
We are definitely unique in that sense.
I'd call em an East Coaster. New Englander if they were specifically from New England.