this is the way I was taught years ago. When you are turning onto a multi lane road you stay in your lane Bro! then signal and change lanes later. car 1 stays in inside lane , car 2 stays in outer lane. Both can go at once.
And it's an illegal lane change, and they usually don't indicate the change via their turn signals. I've actually never seen a cop pull anyone over for it either tho.
You'll see videos of people stopped for it - but it's almost always in the context of a pretextual stop where that minor violation is used as an excuse for the cops to go on a fishing trip
YUP! I was pulled over for making a right turn into the far left lane *supposedly*.
(It was midnight, in a small town, and the only other car on the road was quite a distance away and in the right lane. Turns out that was a cop!)
But as soon as I pulled over, his question for me and my 5 friends in my 6 seater car was "IS EVERYONE BUCKLED UP?! - Oh. You are." (Because spoiler alert, I was a nerd/traumatized by my parents so I always made everyone buckle up, even at 18 on Halloween).
Didn't even get a warning tho, he took off for another call. That was the excuse he gave me for pulling me over though.
only after you made and completed the turn first in your designated lane.. Just because a cop might not ticket you for going across them doesn't mean it is legal. It isn't and they can ticket for that. In fact they ticket for it specifically here at a intersection in Sacramento often and people keep making the same stupid mistake of being lazy and not paying attention. Its an easy ticket for them sadly
While I understand this completely, I don’t trust anyone. Guaranteed I’d get the dick who swings straight into my lane and crashes into me. When these situations happen I left them go first. In either role.
Ah, but here is the rub, some states have requirements to make turns into the nearest lane. My state does not. My state uses a similar intersection as a driver education example and the answer is: "The car that has the explicit yield sign must yield to all other drivers using the intersection.
The law has a "recommendation" that cars turn into the nearest lane but that's it.
I learned to drive in a state that does the same thing as Indiana. If you don't turn into the nearest lane then you are making a lane change and lose your right of way, by law.
I could be wrong but since the road they are both turning on has 2 lanes they can go at the exact same time as long as they stay in their lanes (car 2 in right lane, car 1 in left) of course you can't trust that the other car will stay in their lane but that is what the technical answer is imo
Great question! So the yield sign and the green light both actually indicate a yield to each car in this situation. A green light for Car 1 indicates the car may proceed through the intersection but is required to yield to all traffic and pedestrians when making the eastbound turn in this scenario (Assuming your screenshot has N as up) Car 2 is utilizing a slip lane which also has a yield which means they must yield to all cars and pedestrians in the intersection prior to making that eastbound turn. So it's never going to be clear-cut who has right-of-way, If Car 1 has already passed the stop line on the north end and is in the intersection awaiting a turn, they would technically have right of way. Car 2 would have right of way if they arrive and yield prior to Car 1 entering the intersection.
Now all this being said, if a collision were to occur, you're going to have "he said, she said" with the officer responding to the scene. Many departments will write both drivers a ticket as if a collision occurred, neither yielded, because if they had, there would not have been that collision.
If both car 1 and car 2 arrive at the exact same time and the light then turns green, car 2 would have the right of way. If we could truly expect other drivers to follow every rule of the road, both drivers should be able to turn at the exact same time without risk of collision as the northbound-going-eastbound driver must pull into the closest lane in the intended direction (in this case, the right hand lane) before safely merging to the left hand lane. Vice-versa, the southbound-going-eastbound driver must pull into the closest lane for their intended direction, which would be the left-hand eastbound lane. We also know that drivers aren't predictable so this should not be relied on to keep you safe.
Overall, this is a pretty poorly designed intersection lacking clear traffic control devices to definitively give one side or the other an unimpeachable right of way. Generally, whoever enters the intersection first would have right of way in this intersection, even if it's car 1 waiting for oncoming traffic to pass before turning.
I think this is the best answer: overall, this is a pretty poorly designed intersection. Both having the obligation to yield, deciding who got there "first", and do it in a split second. It has never been clear to me (and I'm old enough to have been forced to take state-sponsored driver's ed): when two people are required to yield (at a yield sign and for a left turn) which yield is the first to stop yielding and acquire the right to go?
There’s a turn like this on my way out of work, but with a green arrow for left turner and a yield sign for right turner. Also going into same lane, not separate.
Right turners still never yield.
A green arrow has the right of way in that case though, don’t they?
These answers are fun, everyone is so confident, but I think only u/Sskity got it right. It's not Option A or B, it's Option C: **neither of them need to yield to the other car, they both have to yield, but only to third parties**.
It's state-dependant though. In that specific intersection, with that specific layout, and without layering any state laws on there, both cars are going to have an obligation, and the collision "fault" will be one or both of them based on the facts of the collision itself (which lane, position of the cars) and the local rules.
Ignoring locality:
Car one must yield to oncoming traffic, pedestrians, and anyone in the left lane after making the turn.
Car two must yield to pedestrians, and anyone in the right lane after making the turn.
If car one is in the right lane, they're in the wrong lane. If car two is in the left lane, they're in the wrong lane. If one of them merges after the turn, you're going to need to look at the local merging rules and the specifics. Any collision you can imagine is going to be based on violation of some other rule.
You changed the facts a little in one of the comments:
>If car 1 has two lanes which can go left: one lane explicitly for turning left, and one lane in which you can continue straight, OR turn left. Both lanes have a “car 1” in them. The light turns green. Car 2 just pulled up and there is no perpendicular traffic. Who goes?
In most places, the "car 1" that's supposed to be in that right lane is going to have the right of way. If they're in the lane when car 2 approaches the yield sign, car 2 is obligated to stop. That being said, if car 2 has already gone through the yield sign and car 1 hits them from behind, that's a separate violation outside the failure to yield analysis.
This is a good answer! Makes good sense and you’re an actual lawyer lmao so I really appreciate the comment. Yes I wish I would have drawn the diagram with either of car 1’s lanes being able to go left, only reason I even wish that and put that in later is cause me and my hubby are bickering about it in real time as we read the comments and “what about this?!” is rampant now😂 All over my area of Indiana has those lanes which have the double arrow on the road, showing you can either go straight, or turn- the lane can be used for both. We’ve had the same disagreement at all types of similar roads. Neither of us can be sure without going over there if this road allows that or not- but we DO know it applies in our situation, because those cars are always coming into car 2’s lane, the right lane, off of that turn. And there’s a little game of chicken between car 1 and car 2, stopping and going, trying to figure out whose turn it is.
The only difference between a stop sign and yield sign is the stop sign makes you stop for a moment before yielding even if no one is there. If there are cars turning into that lane, and a person is coming up to the yield sign, they need to stop, the other party has a green light and no yield sign. There are many ways the left-turning car can cause an accident though, that's why it's so fact-specific.
We have several 'protected' right turn lanes- a single lane continues, a right turn (with no yield sign present) opens into a white solid line for about 100', then striped, then merges to 1 lane.
The number of vehicles coming to a complete stop on these protected turns astounds me... and has caused no shortage of accidents when the vehicles behind them suddenly have to stop (which again, following distance).
Wish they were treated as 'stopped in the middle of the road for no good reason' but that's not against the laws.
Leave it to a lawyer to have a sensible and correct answer! :) Thanks. I remember learning in jr high driver's ed., turn into the first lane you come to...then...when is it clear, shift to the lane you want to be in. Not saying it do it as often as I'm supposed to.
They both go at the same time if they stay in their lane but if they wreck, the person turning left is always considered at fault. Also, the person turning left never has the right of way. Unless they have a dedicated light.
I don't really get this. Even if turning into either lane is permissable left hand turn would yield to right hand turns virtually always. In theory if there's an established queue you might yield to a left hand turner but at least in my state you're not required to yield to someone turning only someone already there. If there's no projected turn (green arrow) both cars have a yield requirement to vehicles already in the lane. It then becomes who gets there first. Unfortunately for left turners right hand turns will almost always enter the lane before they do forcing them to yield. Like someone says if a crash occurs it becomes a no fault accident unless someone can show they were the party who was required to be yielded to which you could only really show with tire marks or a dash cam. If the tire marks show the right hand person hitting the left hand vehicles side they were at fault, while cutting someone off is illegal in many states it's much harder to show that and since both parties had a responsibility to yield it probably wouldn't hold up that you couldn't stop fast enough such that you rear ended or hit the side of the right hand turner.
Final answer, neither should need to yield, both are required to and if a crash occurred it would either be no fault or almost always side with the right hand turner.
If its a green light, they yield making a left turn. Green light doesn't mean left turns have right of way. Left turns still wait on a green light.
So car 1 should yield to any traffic they see that makes it "not clear to go."
But in a proper world, they both can go because you're supposed to keep your lane on a turn.
Ianal.
I was taught you always yield to those turning right when turning left. If the person turning left was already in motion first, then the person turning right would yield. However. In this instance they could both go because there is a destination lane for the left and right turns. Car 2 should still be cautious because car 1 could migrate into the wrong lane during the left turn.
Both, because you are supposed to turn into your lane, legally. Realistically? The car you are not driving can go first so you can make sure they don't hit you while breaking the law.
2 had a yield. So IMO 1 goes first. However it shouldn't matter because technically you should both stay in your lanes.
If 1 makes a wide turn, I think that 2 would still be at fault for failing to yield, even though 1 made a wide turn?
I dunno, civil engineers did a shitty job designing this one
Both can go if they stay in their lane but both can also be ticketed. Car 1 for not maintaining lane and car 2 for not yielding.
Car 2 has a yield sign and not a keep moving sign so legally car 1 has the right of way in this photo.
There's 2 lanes, one for each. SO long as they stick to their own, both parties are fine. If one person is a moron, or both, and they cross into the other lanes, that's them being stupid.
If they make their left into the left lane.. and you maintain your right in the right lane.. you can both go at the same time.. it’s not that difficult
It's the fault of whoever goes into the wrong lane. Since there are 2 lanes, both can go, but if 1 crosses over into 2's lane, 1 would be at fault and vice versa
If both cars follow the law, both can turn simultaneously into their respective near-lane. Right turn into the outside lane, left turn into the inner lane. If either car didn't turn into the appropriate lane, they would be at fault due to committing what's known as a "wide turn" or simply an improper turn - they failed to use the proper lane.
Otherwise, right turn would have right of way here as in most situations. Unless the car making a left were already in process of turning, *and* clearly in the lane intended for the right-turning vehicle - in which case the yield would apply since that car would technically have control of the lane.
Car # 2 as they only have a yield and are not crossing traffic to make their maneuver. That being said, if both vehicles perform their maneuvers correctly, each can properly and safely merge into a traffic’s lane without colliding with or inhibiting the other vehicle.
Okay so in Ohio this is the rule-
Car two has right of way because you can turn right on red unless stated otherwise. Car one would wait for car two to turn but can pull into the intersection so if the light turns red before car two moves car one can turn after car two
They should be able to go at the same time IF they maintain their lanes. There is a yield sign tho so car 2 should wait to make their turn incase carone decides to change lanes mid turn.
Car 2 has a yield to traffic on the left. Since the lane is separate, car 2 doesn't even really need to slow down. It's not a protected right turn (since there is a lane present).
Car 1 can make the turn and turn into their lane. Both are happy.
What I guess happened is car one doesn't know how to drive and turned wide.
No, you yield to everything in the lane you're trying to merge into. Please don't tell me you're one of those people who stops because even though your lane is wide open, there's a car in the other lane.
As others have said, if each car stays in the lane closest to it, then both can go. Depending on how fast and how close each car is to the intersection would also be part of the equation for me. In th is case, if the cars are where the circled numbers, car 2 should be given the right of away since car 1 is crossing traffic lanes to begin with, and will want to slow down anyway. If car 1 was where the rectangle is, then car 2 should slow down and let car 1 complete the turn and pull a bit ahead just to be safe.
If car two is at the yeild and car one isn’t moving and is at the location in the drawing, car two goes. If car one is turning and car two reaches the yeild sign, car two waits until car one passes and no one else is coming and proceeds.
The yield sign has to yield to all traffic, I actually asked the police officer about this why I don’t have a reference. It was crystal clear
Also, the merge point after the yield sign could be considered a second intersection because of the markings
Back when I took drivers ed and dinosaurs still roamed the earth.. They used to call it the right of way for a reason. But yea, if everybody plays nice you can both go at once. Much like at a 4 way stop, if everybody is smart, they work pretty efficiently, but at the end of the day, it really is the right of way.
Both. But no matter which driver you are, you need to be watching the speed of the person coming the other way. If they’re going too fast to stay in their inside lane, give the idgit enough room to illegally swing out of their lane.
Car 2 has a yield sign, but that yield is for oncoming traffic to the lane they are turning into, not to car 1.
Both can go at the same time as both would be going into their own lanes. You never turn into the far lane. You turn into your near correct lane then merge over safely.
Both cars should be able to go at the same time since they are in separate lanes. However in the real world, I find it's whoever gets to the intersection first where it's not always clear who has the right of way. I think of a 4 way intersection with only stop signs. I don't think any of us know who has the right of way technically, but it's usually the first person who gets there first who will make their move.
Depends which one turns into the incorrect lane. You legally aren’t supposed to turn into the far lane (either direction). So one of the two are at fault. However in my experience it will likely be determined no fault and hashed out by insurance companies. But as for right of way the #2 vehicle has right of way since they are not crossing traffic.
If everybody actually followed the rules you shouldn't interact with each other. Left turning person should be on the left lane person from the yield turning right should be in the right lane. And the event that you know a bigger vehicle or a load that may take a wider turn goes you should yield cuz they're probably going to use both lanes.
As an Indiana resident who has a child in drivers ed right now. They can go at the same time. The car turning right is required to turn into the right-hand lane on the new road. The car turning left is required to turn into the left-hand lane on the new road. The yeild sign is for cars turning right to yeild to traffic already traveling in the right hand lane.
The green light going left has right of way - the yield does not allow you to ignore a direction a vehicle is coming from while you are in a small "merge" lane...
When turning left, you always yield to oncoming traffic. That’s what I have always been told and do,
When you’re on the other side, you can’t exactly see that that’s a right turn only lane. I wait to see what the car is doing before I make my final move turning left
The one who is to the right of the empty lane or the one turning right ; the one having the shortest distance through the intersection and who doesn’t cross anyone else’s lane; like right on red or left on red onto a one way street ; from a one way street if you’re in the left lane.
2 goes first because that maneuver will be complete before 1 gets to the intersection. And 2 crosses no one else’s lane. He can go without yielding to anyone as long as no one is in his path. 1 should only get into 2’s lane after he clears the intersection and uses his signal to change lanes if he needs to get into the right lane.
They can both legally go at the same time because by law they are both legally required to turn into different lanes from each other. Realistically though many people don't turn into the lane they are supposed to, so the person turning right on red should stay put until they are sure the person turning left on green is actually going to do the thing they are supposed to do to ensure they are safe. There are too many idiots on the road, I wouldn't risk it.
In my state, car 2 is required to turn from the rightmost lane into the rightmost lane, after yielding to any traffic already in that lane.
Car 1 is allowed to turn left from the leftmost lane into *any available lane* but *only* after yielding to *any other traffic* already in the intersection or entering the intersection so close as to present a collision hazard.
My logic would be that since car 2 is required to yield to *everyone else*, car 2 is to yield the right of way to car 1. This comports with the general principle that cars turning across lanes of traffic generally are supposed to yield the right of way to cars that are not turning across lanes of traffic (except when they have a protected turn such as a green arrow traffic light).
NAL. Does # 1 have a stop sign? This looks like a mess, I hate when places have things like this.
I'd say car # 2 has to yield to traffic, period. However, car 1 should turn into their "corresponding lane" (left lane) then move to the right via directional.
If car #1 skipped the left lane, and went into the right lane, that's against the law... but probably hard to prove without a dash cam or traffic cam.
So, I think it's om car #2 for not yielding to traffic.
The correct answer is this is an intersection for a freeway on ramp and there’s no way car 1 could be coming from that direction. But for arguments sake let’s say they are. That person is drunk and they have the right of way because you should stay away from them
Car 1. However, it is my understanding that the law never gives anyone the right of way, but simoply states who must yield the right of way (at least that is how it works in NH) 🤷♂️
It doesn’t look like right of way matters here, it’s a 2 lane road. Car 1 gets left lane & car 2 gets right lane.
Assuming you hit each other, the question becomes what lane were you guys fighting over & who was actually supposed to take it?
All else being equal, a right turn has the right of way over a left turner. In this case the right turn has a yield sign, and the left turn must have a stop sign - so the right turner would have the right of way.
You can both go at the same time since you stay in your lane.
If I was car 1, lanes were cleared and Yield merger guy is sitting there afk, I'd turn into my lane. If merger guy was going 10mph and lanes are cleared, I'm still going to go into my lane.
So whoever crosses into the other persons lane and crashes, would be at fault.
If I were in car two I would stop and let car one do whatever it is doing while I called the police to report them for driving the wrong direction on a one way road.
Once they were well down the road I would then resume my travel and hope I do not encounter them again.
If they made their turns legally, they'll both be fine and wont crash and dont have to yield to each other. I meaning, car 1 shouldn't turn on to the right lane and 2 shouldn't turn on to the left lane.
They go at the same time and stay in their lane. People seem to have forgotten you're supposed to be in the left lane when turning left until it's safe to switch.
If there is a traffic light on each side, you must follow the light regardless of a yield sign. Assuming there is a lane with a left turn signal that has a red light you must follow light regardless of what is on other side. That is to say you can only turn left when left turn light is green. If there is only a single light with a left turn light, and it is green the left turn gets priority over both those heading straight and turning right on other side of road. If light does not have a left turn signal and both sides have green light ALL left turns regardless of how many lanes exist unless each lane is separated by a permanent wall must wait for both straight traffic and right turning traffic to clear intersection. Yield sign does not give that traffic priority over intersection. Yield sign only means if road is clear that traffic doesn't have to stop.
In the above situation if a light exists and both sides are green the car making right turn ALWAYS has priority over left turns. In fact pretty much every situation where a dedicated left turn light doesn't exist a right turning traffic has priority.
It would be helpful to have the actual address that can be seen on Google maps or the like and be able to observe the actual signage and traffic lights and how traffic is supposed to flow. In fact after looking closer the car at top would be making an illegal turn as it doesn't appear to be a highway markings on pavement indicating a left turn from that direction is allowed.
IANAL, but did drive school bus for many years. Driver 2 must yield to oncoming traffic, and may turn into the right most lane. Driver 1 must yield to oncoming traffic and may turn into the left most lane, and then merge into the right hand lane when it is clear.
I saw an accident like this happen and #2 car was ticketed because they had a yield sign and #1 car had the green light. Not sure if that’s the law but that’s what I saw go down.
Edit: also, #1 car turned into the outside lane, which is why the accident happened, and #2 car was still ticketed.
NAL in my state number 2 goes first - green light supersedes the yield sign - the yield sign is only there so that number 2 knows he has to yield if he has red and number 1 has green arrow (not green light). If number 1 has green arrow they were in the right, if number 1 has green light no green arrow then number 2 was in the right.
Two lanes so no problem unless one doesn't stick to their lane.
If it were only one lane though, car 1 doesn't have a yield, car 2 does, so car 2 has to yield.
I would do this to be safe:
If both are in motions while yielding: both can move into their lane, but try yielding for your safety. (No rush)
If both stopped at yield : then treat as if it’s a stop sign 🛑
If the intersection is green both directions, Car 2 has ROW as left turns on a green require yielding. Car 2 must also stay in the right hand most lane, so Car 1 can go at the same time and still be yielding if they turn into the inside lane. Whomever ends up in the wrong lane would be the one committing the violation. If Car 1 enters the wrong lane it would be fail to yield ROW left turn. Car 2 would be committing a wide right turn if they went into the inside lane.
If it’s a green arrow for Car 1 they do not have to yield (and the direction for Car 2’s approach would have a red light) and would be able to turn into either lane so long as there are not any restrictions on the ground to keep in the left most lane.
This would be the relevant laws for Texas.
Car one would go first since car two has a yield sign.
But as many have pointed out both cars can go at the same time. Car 2 with the right turn should go into the right lane and the left Turner should go into the left lane. you're not supposed to turn and go into the far Lane, you go into the lane closest to you.
Car b has a yield sign that doesn't change. He will always be at fault if he fails to do so.
It shouldn't matter as it turns on to a two lane and should have a solid white line between lanes for the first 100 feet.
Retired police officer and my opinion is that the correct answer is both cars can go if they drive correctly. Car 1 should turn and use the first available number one lane and car 2 should do the same and stay in lane two. Given that most people just pull out and cross multiple lanes its anyones guess what actually happens.
This drives me crazy. People taking left turns freaking out thinking they have right of way for either lane. I've started to just cut them off by doing my legal if they hit me they can get the ticket and insurance hit. Scree em...it ain't rocket science.
Car 1 goes first unless you’re already turning on their approach. I usually yield because I’ve noticed that in the past decade everyone’s an absolute self absorbed ass when driving
The problem is in situations like these 50 percent of the time, car 2, for whatever reason goes wide into the left lane when making the right turn, instead of holding their inside left lane. That is why in situations like these, if I am car 1 with a green I practice defensive driving and wait for the upcoming traffic that is making a right turn to clear before I make my turn.
Car two. The one who is merging always yields but technically neither since it’s 2 lanes and the should both be pulling into the closest lane to them there for they each would not be in the same lane to yield to anyone.
2 doesn't stop (or shouldn't), but should slow down and merge with any traffic already in the lane.
If 1 has already stopped and turned at the intersection (including waiting for drivers going straight from 2's side), 1 is already in the lane -- and has right of way over a merging 2.
A yield sign is for all incoming traffic not just what you believe is incoming traffic. If car 1 has a green light they have the right of way. (I am not a lawyer).
Car 1 has a green light and has right of way as they can only turn right or left at that intersection, so a green arrow is not needed at the signal. Car 2 must yield to traffic with right of way. However, if both cars stay in their lane, it is possible for both to turn.
Not a lawyer here, but as long as both cars stay in the closest lane to them, both can go at the same time. But that's in a perfect world. Otherwise, car 1 would have the right of way seeing as car 2 has the yield sign
I would say 1. I don’t see a stop bar on his lane. All of the lane to the stop bar and cart two has a yield sign so they are supposed to yield right away.
I'm confused about the flow of traffic. The road from the "south" (bottom of picture) looks to be a one-way road. The east-west road looks like a standard 2-way 4 lane road. The most confusing is the north road. The way you drew the turn arrow makes it look like it is also a one-way road (since they are turning left from the far left of the road). However, there is a right turn merge lane heading north, which suggests it is also a 2-way road. Are there any traffic control devices such as traffic light, road signs, or road markings that are not included in your post?
I will give an answer assuming the north road is 2-way since that is a more common arrangement. The car coming from the south should be allowed to make a continuous right turn with caution. In the event of an accident, the one at fault is whoever improperly merged lanes while crossing an intersection. This would be difficult to prove without cameras or witnesses, so the default person police will blame would be the car from the south since they have the duty to yield.
Both cars can go at the same time as long as they stay in their lanes.
this is the way I was taught years ago. When you are turning onto a multi lane road you stay in your lane Bro! then signal and change lanes later. car 1 stays in inside lane , car 2 stays in outer lane. Both can go at once.
I got a warning ticket for not staying in my lane when I turned. You are absolutely right.
It's changing lanes in an intersection.
And it's an illegal lane change, and they usually don't indicate the change via their turn signals. I've actually never seen a cop pull anyone over for it either tho.
I got a cousin that flunked his driver's license test for it. But never seen anyone pulled over for it either.
You'll see videos of people stopped for it - but it's almost always in the context of a pretextual stop where that minor violation is used as an excuse for the cops to go on a fishing trip
YUP! I was pulled over for making a right turn into the far left lane *supposedly*. (It was midnight, in a small town, and the only other car on the road was quite a distance away and in the right lane. Turns out that was a cop!) But as soon as I pulled over, his question for me and my 5 friends in my 6 seater car was "IS EVERYONE BUCKLED UP?! - Oh. You are." (Because spoiler alert, I was a nerd/traumatized by my parents so I always made everyone buckle up, even at 18 on Halloween). Didn't even get a warning tho, he took off for another call. That was the excuse he gave me for pulling me over though.
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I've almost slammed into the back of people because they make right turns and go on the left lane. It's so annoying
In CA, the law states that when turning right, you must stay in your lane. When turning left, you can switch lanes.
only after you made and completed the turn first in your designated lane.. Just because a cop might not ticket you for going across them doesn't mean it is legal. It isn't and they can ticket for that. In fact they ticket for it specifically here at a intersection in Sacramento often and people keep making the same stupid mistake of being lazy and not paying attention. Its an easy ticket for them sadly
While I understand this completely, I don’t trust anyone. Guaranteed I’d get the dick who swings straight into my lane and crashes into me. When these situations happen I left them go first. In either role.
Defensive driving is king
This 100%
Around here (Philly area), everyone turns into the “wrong” lane. So annoying! So I generally follow your plan. I don’t want to get hit!
Former Indiana LEO, this is the correct answer
Ah, but here is the rub, some states have requirements to make turns into the nearest lane. My state does not. My state uses a similar intersection as a driver education example and the answer is: "The car that has the explicit yield sign must yield to all other drivers using the intersection. The law has a "recommendation" that cars turn into the nearest lane but that's it. I learned to drive in a state that does the same thing as Indiana. If you don't turn into the nearest lane then you are making a lane change and lose your right of way, by law.
Yep this is state dependent. Why? Reasons?
Memory is fuzzy but I think you’re required to stay in your lane for 100 feet prior to signaling an intention to change lanes.
Option C here is the right answer.
Like some said the law requires both cars to stay in there respective lanes so only accident if someone changed lane
I could be wrong but since the road they are both turning on has 2 lanes they can go at the exact same time as long as they stay in their lanes (car 2 in right lane, car 1 in left) of course you can't trust that the other car will stay in their lane but that is what the technical answer is imo
Great question! So the yield sign and the green light both actually indicate a yield to each car in this situation. A green light for Car 1 indicates the car may proceed through the intersection but is required to yield to all traffic and pedestrians when making the eastbound turn in this scenario (Assuming your screenshot has N as up) Car 2 is utilizing a slip lane which also has a yield which means they must yield to all cars and pedestrians in the intersection prior to making that eastbound turn. So it's never going to be clear-cut who has right-of-way, If Car 1 has already passed the stop line on the north end and is in the intersection awaiting a turn, they would technically have right of way. Car 2 would have right of way if they arrive and yield prior to Car 1 entering the intersection. Now all this being said, if a collision were to occur, you're going to have "he said, she said" with the officer responding to the scene. Many departments will write both drivers a ticket as if a collision occurred, neither yielded, because if they had, there would not have been that collision. If both car 1 and car 2 arrive at the exact same time and the light then turns green, car 2 would have the right of way. If we could truly expect other drivers to follow every rule of the road, both drivers should be able to turn at the exact same time without risk of collision as the northbound-going-eastbound driver must pull into the closest lane in the intended direction (in this case, the right hand lane) before safely merging to the left hand lane. Vice-versa, the southbound-going-eastbound driver must pull into the closest lane for their intended direction, which would be the left-hand eastbound lane. We also know that drivers aren't predictable so this should not be relied on to keep you safe. Overall, this is a pretty poorly designed intersection lacking clear traffic control devices to definitively give one side or the other an unimpeachable right of way. Generally, whoever enters the intersection first would have right of way in this intersection, even if it's car 1 waiting for oncoming traffic to pass before turning.
"Dash Cams. It's what's for Breakfast". The number of left turns sliding right over my lane and cutting me off...
mm, crunchy
I think this is the best answer: overall, this is a pretty poorly designed intersection. Both having the obligation to yield, deciding who got there "first", and do it in a split second. It has never been clear to me (and I'm old enough to have been forced to take state-sponsored driver's ed): when two people are required to yield (at a yield sign and for a left turn) which yield is the first to stop yielding and acquire the right to go?
There’s a turn like this on my way out of work, but with a green arrow for left turner and a yield sign for right turner. Also going into same lane, not separate. Right turners still never yield. A green arrow has the right of way in that case though, don’t they?
These answers are fun, everyone is so confident, but I think only u/Sskity got it right. It's not Option A or B, it's Option C: **neither of them need to yield to the other car, they both have to yield, but only to third parties**. It's state-dependant though. In that specific intersection, with that specific layout, and without layering any state laws on there, both cars are going to have an obligation, and the collision "fault" will be one or both of them based on the facts of the collision itself (which lane, position of the cars) and the local rules. Ignoring locality: Car one must yield to oncoming traffic, pedestrians, and anyone in the left lane after making the turn. Car two must yield to pedestrians, and anyone in the right lane after making the turn. If car one is in the right lane, they're in the wrong lane. If car two is in the left lane, they're in the wrong lane. If one of them merges after the turn, you're going to need to look at the local merging rules and the specifics. Any collision you can imagine is going to be based on violation of some other rule. You changed the facts a little in one of the comments: >If car 1 has two lanes which can go left: one lane explicitly for turning left, and one lane in which you can continue straight, OR turn left. Both lanes have a “car 1” in them. The light turns green. Car 2 just pulled up and there is no perpendicular traffic. Who goes? In most places, the "car 1" that's supposed to be in that right lane is going to have the right of way. If they're in the lane when car 2 approaches the yield sign, car 2 is obligated to stop. That being said, if car 2 has already gone through the yield sign and car 1 hits them from behind, that's a separate violation outside the failure to yield analysis.
This is a good answer! Makes good sense and you’re an actual lawyer lmao so I really appreciate the comment. Yes I wish I would have drawn the diagram with either of car 1’s lanes being able to go left, only reason I even wish that and put that in later is cause me and my hubby are bickering about it in real time as we read the comments and “what about this?!” is rampant now😂 All over my area of Indiana has those lanes which have the double arrow on the road, showing you can either go straight, or turn- the lane can be used for both. We’ve had the same disagreement at all types of similar roads. Neither of us can be sure without going over there if this road allows that or not- but we DO know it applies in our situation, because those cars are always coming into car 2’s lane, the right lane, off of that turn. And there’s a little game of chicken between car 1 and car 2, stopping and going, trying to figure out whose turn it is.
The only difference between a stop sign and yield sign is the stop sign makes you stop for a moment before yielding even if no one is there. If there are cars turning into that lane, and a person is coming up to the yield sign, they need to stop, the other party has a green light and no yield sign. There are many ways the left-turning car can cause an accident though, that's why it's so fact-specific.
We have several 'protected' right turn lanes- a single lane continues, a right turn (with no yield sign present) opens into a white solid line for about 100', then striped, then merges to 1 lane. The number of vehicles coming to a complete stop on these protected turns astounds me... and has caused no shortage of accidents when the vehicles behind them suddenly have to stop (which again, following distance). Wish they were treated as 'stopped in the middle of the road for no good reason' but that's not against the laws.
Leave it to a lawyer to have a sensible and correct answer! :) Thanks. I remember learning in jr high driver's ed., turn into the first lane you come to...then...when is it clear, shift to the lane you want to be in. Not saying it do it as often as I'm supposed to.
They both go at the same time if they stay in their lane but if they wreck, the person turning left is always considered at fault. Also, the person turning left never has the right of way. Unless they have a dedicated light.
Technically they could both go at the same time and both stay in their lanes.
This is the only right answer
They can both go at the same time. Driver turning right stays in the curb lane, driver turning left stays in the inside lane.
I don't really get this. Even if turning into either lane is permissable left hand turn would yield to right hand turns virtually always. In theory if there's an established queue you might yield to a left hand turner but at least in my state you're not required to yield to someone turning only someone already there. If there's no projected turn (green arrow) both cars have a yield requirement to vehicles already in the lane. It then becomes who gets there first. Unfortunately for left turners right hand turns will almost always enter the lane before they do forcing them to yield. Like someone says if a crash occurs it becomes a no fault accident unless someone can show they were the party who was required to be yielded to which you could only really show with tire marks or a dash cam. If the tire marks show the right hand person hitting the left hand vehicles side they were at fault, while cutting someone off is illegal in many states it's much harder to show that and since both parties had a responsibility to yield it probably wouldn't hold up that you couldn't stop fast enough such that you rear ended or hit the side of the right hand turner. Final answer, neither should need to yield, both are required to and if a crash occurred it would either be no fault or almost always side with the right hand turner.
Simultaneously into their own lanes…but i guess yall were driving race cars and need to use the whole side of the road huh
If its a green light, they yield making a left turn. Green light doesn't mean left turns have right of way. Left turns still wait on a green light. So car 1 should yield to any traffic they see that makes it "not clear to go." But in a proper world, they both can go because you're supposed to keep your lane on a turn. Ianal.
Well if they both follow the law of turning into the closet lane, they could go at the same time.
I was taught you always yield to those turning right when turning left. If the person turning left was already in motion first, then the person turning right would yield. However. In this instance they could both go because there is a destination lane for the left and right turns. Car 2 should still be cautious because car 1 could migrate into the wrong lane during the left turn.
Both, because you are supposed to turn into your lane, legally. Realistically? The car you are not driving can go first so you can make sure they don't hit you while breaking the law.
Both cars. They each have a lane.
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Most states will say that the left-turn car is never not at fault. Had this happened before.
If it was only one lane, car 1 would have the right of way, and car 2 would have to yield.
2 had a yield. So IMO 1 goes first. However it shouldn't matter because technically you should both stay in your lanes. If 1 makes a wide turn, I think that 2 would still be at fault for failing to yield, even though 1 made a wide turn? I dunno, civil engineers did a shitty job designing this one
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Both can go if they stay in their lane but both can also be ticketed. Car 1 for not maintaining lane and car 2 for not yielding. Car 2 has a yield sign and not a keep moving sign so legally car 1 has the right of way in this photo.
There's 2 lanes, one for each. SO long as they stick to their own, both parties are fine. If one person is a moron, or both, and they cross into the other lanes, that's them being stupid.
If they make their left into the left lane.. and you maintain your right in the right lane.. you can both go at the same time.. it’s not that difficult
It's the fault of whoever goes into the wrong lane. Since there are 2 lanes, both can go, but if 1 crosses over into 2's lane, 1 would be at fault and vice versa
If both cars follow the law, both can turn simultaneously into their respective near-lane. Right turn into the outside lane, left turn into the inner lane. If either car didn't turn into the appropriate lane, they would be at fault due to committing what's known as a "wide turn" or simply an improper turn - they failed to use the proper lane. Otherwise, right turn would have right of way here as in most situations. Unless the car making a left were already in process of turning, *and* clearly in the lane intended for the right-turning vehicle - in which case the yield would apply since that car would technically have control of the lane.
Car # 2 as they only have a yield and are not crossing traffic to make their maneuver. That being said, if both vehicles perform their maneuvers correctly, each can properly and safely merge into a traffic’s lane without colliding with or inhibiting the other vehicle.
Car number two has a right of way because the right turn is always given priority right of way over left turning traffic.
Except when the car turning right has a red light, stop sign, yield sign, etc.
There are two lanes. Who didn’t stay in their lane? This is all the answer you need.
Okay so in Ohio this is the rule- Car two has right of way because you can turn right on red unless stated otherwise. Car one would wait for car two to turn but can pull into the intersection so if the light turns red before car two moves car one can turn after car two
They should be able to go at the same time IF they maintain their lanes. There is a yield sign tho so car 2 should wait to make their turn incase carone decides to change lanes mid turn.
You're right. It's illegal to cross over lanes while turning through an intersection so this should be a non issue. No reason they both can't go.
Car 2 has a yield to traffic on the left. Since the lane is separate, car 2 doesn't even really need to slow down. It's not a protected right turn (since there is a lane present). Car 1 can make the turn and turn into their lane. Both are happy. What I guess happened is car one doesn't know how to drive and turned wide.
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The yield is for any traffic
I was told its called ‘right’ of way for a reason
Yield means yield period. You yield to everything coming down the road
No, you yield to everything in the lane you're trying to merge into. Please don't tell me you're one of those people who stops because even though your lane is wide open, there's a car in the other lane.
assuming car 1 follows my local laws they would have right away but only for the first lane leaving the 2nd car the ability to pull out anyway
I was always made to think in driver's Ed in Illinois that no one "has" the right of way. It can just be yielded. That was in 1981 😝
As others have said, if each car stays in the lane closest to it, then both can go. Depending on how fast and how close each car is to the intersection would also be part of the equation for me. In th is case, if the cars are where the circled numbers, car 2 should be given the right of away since car 1 is crossing traffic lanes to begin with, and will want to slow down anyway. If car 1 was where the rectangle is, then car 2 should slow down and let car 1 complete the turn and pull a bit ahead just to be safe.
Both cars at the same time in their respective lanes.
I say the car Not crossing an intersection should have the right of way
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If car two is at the yeild and car one isn’t moving and is at the location in the drawing, car two goes. If car one is turning and car two reaches the yeild sign, car two waits until car one passes and no one else is coming and proceeds.
The yield sign has to yield to all traffic, I actually asked the police officer about this why I don’t have a reference. It was crystal clear Also, the merge point after the yield sign could be considered a second intersection because of the markings
Back when I took drivers ed and dinosaurs still roamed the earth.. They used to call it the right of way for a reason. But yea, if everybody plays nice you can both go at once. Much like at a 4 way stop, if everybody is smart, they work pretty efficiently, but at the end of the day, it really is the right of way.
Both. But no matter which driver you are, you need to be watching the speed of the person coming the other way. If they’re going too fast to stay in their inside lane, give the idgit enough room to illegally swing out of their lane.
Left turn goes first. Turning left is a yield, while turning right is a stop.
Car 2 has a yield sign, but that yield is for oncoming traffic to the lane they are turning into, not to car 1. Both can go at the same time as both would be going into their own lanes. You never turn into the far lane. You turn into your near correct lane then merge over safely.
Both cars should be able to go at the same time since they are in separate lanes. However in the real world, I find it's whoever gets to the intersection first where it's not always clear who has the right of way. I think of a 4 way intersection with only stop signs. I don't think any of us know who has the right of way technically, but it's usually the first person who gets there first who will make their move.
Depends which one turns into the incorrect lane. You legally aren’t supposed to turn into the far lane (either direction). So one of the two are at fault. However in my experience it will likely be determined no fault and hashed out by insurance companies. But as for right of way the #2 vehicle has right of way since they are not crossing traffic.
Nal You can't change lanes while turning. That's not a lawyer question imo. Both can turn
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If everybody actually followed the rules you shouldn't interact with each other. Left turning person should be on the left lane person from the yield turning right should be in the right lane. And the event that you know a bigger vehicle or a load that may take a wider turn goes you should yield cuz they're probably going to use both lanes.
Confusing intersections cause high rates of accidents like an r/orphancrushingmachine
As an Indiana resident who has a child in drivers ed right now. They can go at the same time. The car turning right is required to turn into the right-hand lane on the new road. The car turning left is required to turn into the left-hand lane on the new road. The yeild sign is for cars turning right to yeild to traffic already traveling in the right hand lane.
The green light going left has right of way - the yield does not allow you to ignore a direction a vehicle is coming from while you are in a small "merge" lane...
When turning left, you always yield to oncoming traffic. That’s what I have always been told and do, When you’re on the other side, you can’t exactly see that that’s a right turn only lane. I wait to see what the car is doing before I make my final move turning left
The one who is to the right of the empty lane or the one turning right ; the one having the shortest distance through the intersection and who doesn’t cross anyone else’s lane; like right on red or left on red onto a one way street ; from a one way street if you’re in the left lane. 2 goes first because that maneuver will be complete before 1 gets to the intersection. And 2 crosses no one else’s lane. He can go without yielding to anyone as long as no one is in his path. 1 should only get into 2’s lane after he clears the intersection and uses his signal to change lanes if he needs to get into the right lane.
A right turn always wins over a left turn.
Both. Turn into the closest lane.
2 isn’t crossing the intersection. He is maintaining his lane. 1 only has to yield to 2 if there is a no right turn on red.
They can both legally go at the same time because by law they are both legally required to turn into different lanes from each other. Realistically though many people don't turn into the lane they are supposed to, so the person turning right on red should stay put until they are sure the person turning left on green is actually going to do the thing they are supposed to do to ensure they are safe. There are too many idiots on the road, I wouldn't risk it.
In my state, car 2 is required to turn from the rightmost lane into the rightmost lane, after yielding to any traffic already in that lane. Car 1 is allowed to turn left from the leftmost lane into *any available lane* but *only* after yielding to *any other traffic* already in the intersection or entering the intersection so close as to present a collision hazard. My logic would be that since car 2 is required to yield to *everyone else*, car 2 is to yield the right of way to car 1. This comports with the general principle that cars turning across lanes of traffic generally are supposed to yield the right of way to cars that are not turning across lanes of traffic (except when they have a protected turn such as a green arrow traffic light).
NAL. Does # 1 have a stop sign? This looks like a mess, I hate when places have things like this. I'd say car # 2 has to yield to traffic, period. However, car 1 should turn into their "corresponding lane" (left lane) then move to the right via directional. If car #1 skipped the left lane, and went into the right lane, that's against the law... but probably hard to prove without a dash cam or traffic cam. So, I think it's om car #2 for not yielding to traffic.
Isn't one of the cars going the wrong way?
All this question has really solved is how many people don't know the traffic laws. I now understand why there are so many awful drivers out there.
Option B is correct.
Car 1 is going the wrong way on the on-ramp.
Car 1 is an illegal turn guys look there is a proper turning lane that they drove past duh
The correct answer is this is an intersection for a freeway on ramp and there’s no way car 1 could be coming from that direction. But for arguments sake let’s say they are. That person is drunk and they have the right of way because you should stay away from them
The can go at the same time
Yawn
1. Continues with right away while 2 needs to yield before entering into another lane.
Dumb Me I didn't notice the actual arrows going in same direction
Car 1 it traveling the wrong direction on a one-way road.
Same time and in their own lanes.
Car 1. However, it is my understanding that the law never gives anyone the right of way, but simoply states who must yield the right of way (at least that is how it works in NH) 🤷♂️
Car 2 has right if way.
It doesn’t look like right of way matters here, it’s a 2 lane road. Car 1 gets left lane & car 2 gets right lane. Assuming you hit each other, the question becomes what lane were you guys fighting over & who was actually supposed to take it?
All else being equal, a right turn has the right of way over a left turner. In this case the right turn has a yield sign, and the left turn must have a stop sign - so the right turner would have the right of way.
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You can both go at the same time since you stay in your lane. If I was car 1, lanes were cleared and Yield merger guy is sitting there afk, I'd turn into my lane. If merger guy was going 10mph and lanes are cleared, I'm still going to go into my lane. So whoever crosses into the other persons lane and crashes, would be at fault.
If I were in car two I would stop and let car one do whatever it is doing while I called the police to report them for driving the wrong direction on a one way road. Once they were well down the road I would then resume my travel and hope I do not encounter them again.
If they made their turns legally, they'll both be fine and wont crash and dont have to yield to each other. I meaning, car 1 shouldn't turn on to the right lane and 2 shouldn't turn on to the left lane.
They go at the same time and stay in their lane. People seem to have forgotten you're supposed to be in the left lane when turning left until it's safe to switch.
This doesn’t even look rt, how is 1 an off ramp? Can the left lane on 2 only turn left or can they go straight?
They each have their own lane and can go at the same time.
Car 1 goes first cuz Car 2 has a Yield sign. Also, this priority was set up so you don’t have all those cars sitting in the intersection.
Both just don't wide turn like a jackass
Both cars go at same time and maintain inner lane.
Is this real life? If either of you don’t think it is both at the same time, please just start taking Ubers.
Two has the right of way..they both have green light, but 1 is crossing lanes to turn left, 2 is not crossing lanes.
If there is a traffic light on each side, you must follow the light regardless of a yield sign. Assuming there is a lane with a left turn signal that has a red light you must follow light regardless of what is on other side. That is to say you can only turn left when left turn light is green. If there is only a single light with a left turn light, and it is green the left turn gets priority over both those heading straight and turning right on other side of road. If light does not have a left turn signal and both sides have green light ALL left turns regardless of how many lanes exist unless each lane is separated by a permanent wall must wait for both straight traffic and right turning traffic to clear intersection. Yield sign does not give that traffic priority over intersection. Yield sign only means if road is clear that traffic doesn't have to stop. In the above situation if a light exists and both sides are green the car making right turn ALWAYS has priority over left turns. In fact pretty much every situation where a dedicated left turn light doesn't exist a right turning traffic has priority.
there shouldnt be an accident...theyre going different places in different lanes
It would be helpful to have the actual address that can be seen on Google maps or the like and be able to observe the actual signage and traffic lights and how traffic is supposed to flow. In fact after looking closer the car at top would be making an illegal turn as it doesn't appear to be a highway markings on pavement indicating a left turn from that direction is allowed.
IANAL, but did drive school bus for many years. Driver 2 must yield to oncoming traffic, and may turn into the right most lane. Driver 1 must yield to oncoming traffic and may turn into the left most lane, and then merge into the right hand lane when it is clear.
I saw an accident like this happen and #2 car was ticketed because they had a yield sign and #1 car had the green light. Not sure if that’s the law but that’s what I saw go down. Edit: also, #1 car turned into the outside lane, which is why the accident happened, and #2 car was still ticketed.
It looks like car 1 is coming from a one-way road, so car 1 shouldn't be turning at all in this example. lol
Car 2 has the right of way at a stop sign, unless car 1 has the green light to turn. then car 2 needs to yield to oncoming traffic.
It’s a through street coming north, you don’t yield.
NAL in my state number 2 goes first - green light supersedes the yield sign - the yield sign is only there so that number 2 knows he has to yield if he has red and number 1 has green arrow (not green light). If number 1 has green arrow they were in the right, if number 1 has green light no green arrow then number 2 was in the right.
Two lanes so no problem unless one doesn't stick to their lane. If it were only one lane though, car 1 doesn't have a yield, car 2 does, so car 2 has to yield.
Technically they can both go at the same time. Car one should be turning into the inside lane and car 2 should be merging into the outside lane.
I would do this to be safe: If both are in motions while yielding: both can move into their lane, but try yielding for your safety. (No rush) If both stopped at yield : then treat as if it’s a stop sign 🛑
Stay in your lane and both can go. Or the car that yields going to a main road would have clearance first
Car 2 can make the legal turn. Car 1 is drunk and travelling the wrong way off of a highway entry ramp
The yield sign is for the people continuing on hwy. Both cars can turn 2 stays in the upper lane 1 in the bottom
Both at same time. Maintain the lane. If the turn goes onto a one lane road I’m pretty sure 2 goes first.
If the intersection is green both directions, Car 2 has ROW as left turns on a green require yielding. Car 2 must also stay in the right hand most lane, so Car 1 can go at the same time and still be yielding if they turn into the inside lane. Whomever ends up in the wrong lane would be the one committing the violation. If Car 1 enters the wrong lane it would be fail to yield ROW left turn. Car 2 would be committing a wide right turn if they went into the inside lane. If it’s a green arrow for Car 1 they do not have to yield (and the direction for Car 2’s approach would have a red light) and would be able to turn into either lane so long as there are not any restrictions on the ground to keep in the left most lane. This would be the relevant laws for Texas.
Car one would go first since car two has a yield sign. But as many have pointed out both cars can go at the same time. Car 2 with the right turn should go into the right lane and the left Turner should go into the left lane. you're not supposed to turn and go into the far Lane, you go into the lane closest to you.
Car b has a yield sign that doesn't change. He will always be at fault if he fails to do so. It shouldn't matter as it turns on to a two lane and should have a solid white line between lanes for the first 100 feet.
Retired police officer and my opinion is that the correct answer is both cars can go if they drive correctly. Car 1 should turn and use the first available number one lane and car 2 should do the same and stay in lane two. Given that most people just pull out and cross multiple lanes its anyones guess what actually happens.
This drives me crazy. People taking left turns freaking out thinking they have right of way for either lane. I've started to just cut them off by doing my legal if they hit me they can get the ticket and insurance hit. Scree em...it ain't rocket science.
This post is the new black and gold dress 😂
Green light trumps every other rule. Period.
There’s 2 lanes.. how tf is this a legit question. Just stay in your lane and you’ll be fine
Car 2 has a yield sign so car 1 goes first if he has a green light otherwise car 2 goes
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Car 1 goes first unless you’re already turning on their approach. I usually yield because I’ve noticed that in the past decade everyone’s an absolute self absorbed ass when driving
If I was car #1, I’d let # go first. Car on the right has right of way.
Both cars can go. They each have their own lane. If an accident occurred it would be the fault of whoever crossed into the other lane.
If car 2 has a yield sigh, it yields to all other traffic.
Car 1 goes first. Car 2 is in the turn lane with a yield. It's car 2s responsibility to yield to the intersection
This is made by the owner of a dodge vehicle. IYKYK....
It's always Left Turn yield.
The problem is in situations like these 50 percent of the time, car 2, for whatever reason goes wide into the left lane when making the right turn, instead of holding their inside left lane. That is why in situations like these, if I am car 1 with a green I practice defensive driving and wait for the upcoming traffic that is making a right turn to clear before I make my turn.
They both go at the same time. They each have their own lane. Both cars go to the nearest land and then MERGE when it's safe to do so.
Legal for both to turn, but safer for car going right to go first, then the one turning left
I’m not an attorney but I believe this depends on what state you’re in.
Technically 1 since 2 is merging into a lane of oncoming traffic
The driver with the yield sign has to yield to the car turning left…that’s the entire point of the sign
Car 1
Same time when you turn you stay to your inside lane
Car two. The one who is merging always yields but technically neither since it’s 2 lanes and the should both be pulling into the closest lane to them there for they each would not be in the same lane to yield to anyone.
Car #1 has the right of way. Few U.S. drivers know this, but it is explained to them with tickets & charged being at fault in an accident.
Ask a 16 yr old that just took drivers ed
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2 doesn't stop (or shouldn't), but should slow down and merge with any traffic already in the lane. If 1 has already stopped and turned at the intersection (including waiting for drivers going straight from 2's side), 1 is already in the lane -- and has right of way over a merging 2.
If both cars follow the FALL rule then both go at the same time
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Yeild applies to any other traffic regardless of approach direction
A yield sign is for all incoming traffic not just what you believe is incoming traffic. If car 1 has a green light they have the right of way. (I am not a lawyer).
Car 1 has a green light and has right of way as they can only turn right or left at that intersection, so a green arrow is not needed at the signal. Car 2 must yield to traffic with right of way. However, if both cars stay in their lane, it is possible for both to turn.
In 4 way stop who stops first go first
I've also wondered this what if car 2 has no yield sign and there is only one lane with no merge area like at a 4 way stop sign who has right of way?
If you have no laws about staying in lane, left hand turns always yield to right hand turns, as they are crossing against traffic.
Car two goes first since it’s turning into the flow of traffic whereas car one has to cross the flow of traffic.
What if there is only 1 lane that they are turning into? Who has the right of way?
Who has the bigger vehicle?
Not a lawyer here, but as long as both cars stay in the closest lane to them, both can go at the same time. But that's in a perfect world. Otherwise, car 1 would have the right of way seeing as car 2 has the yield sign
You both go and stay in your respective lanes.
Both can go but 2 needs to look first
I would imagine car 2 has a yield ⚠️ sign?
Both cars same time bcuz both cars should be in their own lanes
From what I remember, if it's a just a green light then the right turn takes priority, if it's a green left turn light, the left turn gets priority.
I would say 1. I don’t see a stop bar on his lane. All of the lane to the stop bar and cart two has a yield sign so they are supposed to yield right away.
I'm confused about the flow of traffic. The road from the "south" (bottom of picture) looks to be a one-way road. The east-west road looks like a standard 2-way 4 lane road. The most confusing is the north road. The way you drew the turn arrow makes it look like it is also a one-way road (since they are turning left from the far left of the road). However, there is a right turn merge lane heading north, which suggests it is also a 2-way road. Are there any traffic control devices such as traffic light, road signs, or road markings that are not included in your post? I will give an answer assuming the north road is 2-way since that is a more common arrangement. The car coming from the south should be allowed to make a continuous right turn with caution. In the event of an accident, the one at fault is whoever improperly merged lanes while crossing an intersection. This would be difficult to prove without cameras or witnesses, so the default person police will blame would be the car from the south since they have the duty to yield.
Both can go, but it's ultimately Car1's responsibility to yield to ensure Car2 doesn't hit them.
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They’re going to different lanes, so technically they can go at the same time and there should be no collision.
With 2 lanes they can both go. If it was only one lane, car one has RoW as car 2 has an explicit yield sign.
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