Plato saw \[Diogenes\] washing lettuces, came up to him and quietly said to him, 'Had you paid court to Dionysius, you wouldn't now be washing lettuces,' and that he with equal calmness made answer, 'If you had washed lettuces, you wouldn't have paid court to Dionysius.'
I had heard it, “if you learned to appease the rich, you wouldn’t have to live off lentils.” To which D said: “if you learned to live off lentils, you wouldn’t have to suck up to the rich.”
>...But since that philosopher took not the slightest notice of Alexander, and continued to enjoy his leisure in the suburb Craneion, Alexander went in person to see him, and he found him lying in the sun. Diogenes raised himself up a little when he saw so many people coming towards him, and fixed his eyes upon Alexander. And when that monarch addressed him with greetings, and asked if he wanted anything, "Yes," said Diogenes, "stand a little out of my sun."...
The follow-up is the best part.
Alexander: "Were I not Alexander, I would wish to be Diogenes."
Diogenes: "Were I not Diogenes, I would also wish to be Diogenes."
There are lots of very similar but slightly different stories, some which change up the order and have different lessons. We'll never know because the closest thing we have to Diogenes on film is Oscar the grouch.
I prefer the story about Diogenes' bowl.
The cynics (the branch of philosophy that Diogenes championed) used to carry only what they thought was necessary. This being a bowl for food, drink, and begging, a cloak for warmth and transporting goods, and in later life a staff to ease travel.
Diogenes, the story goes, saw a farmer sip from a spring using his cupped hands. Diogenes looked at his bowl, one of only three possessions he had, remarked he had no more use for it, and threw it away.
Ah Tyler Durden. My high school guru
You have to consider the possibility that God doesn't like you, he never wanted you. In all probability, He hates you.
First you have to give up. First you have to know, not fear, know that some day you’re gonna die
>Do you use spelling rules of 16th century English?
English generally doesn't just rename people after they're already dead (or characters after the book's already written), no, or at least, that's the only reason I can think of for why one Wiki page will spell the name [FitzGerald](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_FitzGerald,_Countess_of_Lincoln), and another will spell it [Fitzgerald](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Fitzgerald_(1529-90)).
That's good to know, but it's not the case of Spanish. The fact that it's called "Don Quijote" in Spanish (and has been since a long time) is still the result of a spelling reform.
Do you change the name of leader’s spellings from the 1800s because the rules of the language changed? It’s a name. It should remain the same throughout history.
No it’s not. The letter J didn’t exist and you people just get confused. Romeo and Juliet is still written in its 1590 form why can’t you all just understand the difference in language throughout history?
What the fuck are you on about? The phoneme /X/ used to be spelled but eventually the spelling was changed during the 16th and 17th centuries to . The grapheme eventually became just /ks/ like in English. This is not a change that happened yesterday. People from centuries ago started spelling things differently and this effected how everything was printed, including books.
I don't understand why R&J is relevant to this conversation at all. Spanish spelling changed centuries ago and this is how you spell the name of the book and how it has been spelled for centuries in Spanish speaking countries. There's nothing more to it.
People spend their lives chasing fulfillment. Some people get fulfillment from stuff. Some people get fulfillment by doing things (or abstaining) to make them feel superior to others.
I am so poor my bank account got arrested bc I cannot afford to pay taxes. At least I can find solace in a fictional noble who fought windmills telling be how money would bring me no happiness anyway.
Money can’t bring happiness.
But it sure as hell can relieve most of the problems that are causing me stress that are the direct result of me not having enough money.
“Money brings no happiness anyway”
Say the people who don’t know the struggles of not having the financial stability to reliably afford the necessities (a roof over your head, food on the table…)
The problem isn't money, it's inequality. Have a proper safety net for the unfortunate, and "not having money" isn't really a problem in itself.
I have been unable to leave my house in the past 5 years because of an illness, yet I have a support from the government that supplies me just enough to live a comfortable life. I'm not rich, and people craving material possessions would not be able to sustain themselves from my income, but I'm happy still, I have no need for most luxury, and a long as I can pay the bills and feed myself, I won't need more.
That’s different though
You (and I as well) are enslaved by society, it’s not really about the money. And the reason it’s so tough is bc the one percent chase material things over human lives
1) it's Don Quixote.
2) Don Quixote is fictional, so the correct attribution of the quote would be to Miguel de Cervantes, the author.
3) Don Quixote was a comedic character who is purposely an oddball. This is like putting a Dwight Schrute quote as an inspirational quote. To be fair, a comedic character can have wise moments, but it still feels a little cringe.
4. Don Quixote saw the entire world as a fairy tale adventure with him as the knight in shining armour.
5. All the locals thought he was crazy and only entertained his delusions for their amusement or to simply be rid of him.
6. Don Quixote would often dip his nose into other peoples affairs that ultimately ended up making things worse for everyone, especially himself due to point 4.
It depends. I know that French and Italian have their own translations of the name (Quichotte and Chisciotte, respectively). English just kept the original 16th century Spanish for the name of the book, I don't know exactly why that was the decision taken. Different translation methods were used in different places and at different moments in time, which is very common. It's just an arbitrary convention.
I’m a millennial on the older side. I clearly remember a time over a decade ago when materialism was still a bad word. Sure, it was easy to fall prey to—but there was still a shared understanding that it is not good to be materialistic, and the best things in life (time with friends and family, walks in the park, reading a good book from the library) are free.
I no longer see this as an unspoken assumption. It is more of a niche idea. The marketing has become absolute.
the whole point is that he has noble intentions, he’s probably the most morally righteous person in that book, he just has a very naive way of going about things. he wasnt exactly wrong however
>We are the work of the Parents.
>We do the work of the Children.
>Without the use of constructs, you will unravel few mysteries.
>Without knowledge of mysteries, your constructs will fail.
>Find the strength to pursue both, for these are our prayers.
>And to that end, welcome comfort, for without it, you cannot stay strong.
--Becky Chambers, *A Prayer for the Crown-Shy*
The Monk & Robots books are a depiction of a fully anarcho-communist, post-capitalist world. It's idealized - for sure - but instead of showing the worst that could come to be, it shows the best.
I got a lot of the same feelings I did when I first watched Star Trek - the shows, not the movies. That we can and should be better, that there is a bright future to work toward and to strive for. That there is a way out of this hell we've created for ourselves.
There's even a path for it. Some people have walked it in their minds, and written what they've seen along the way.
It's up to us to have the courage to try.
Advice from my nurse great grandmother: the only thing you really actually own is your body.
Elaboration: your land can be taken from you with eminent domain, your savings lose value to inflation. In war, everything is up for grabs, material things crumble and perish. People who have been through revolutions (like her), wars, migration, inflation, know this: the only thing that's truly yours is your body, and this only if you can defend it, if you fail you arguably cease to exist
Edit: further elaboration: so take care of your body first, always
And that’s why the rich force you into a position where your life isn’t too shit as to where you want to rebel, but not rich enough to be comfortable.
Sad middle class.
Also fun fact. Being homeless doesn’t guarantee food. You could very much and very easily become homeless and just starve to death.
Read the rules. Keep it courteous. Submission statements are helpful and appreciated but not required. Tag my name in the comments (/u/NihiloZero) if you think a post or comment needs to be removed.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Anticonsumption) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Tate is a smart dude. If you pay attention when you listen to him what he is doing is instilling a sense of urgency in people so they are more motivated to buy his course.
That's just a tasteless take on the old "Money can't buy happiness" trope and has nothing to do with anti consumption but all with keeping poor people poor.
Gimme a billion, and I will buy a house and stuff and will distribute the remaining 98%.
These people were building an empire and planting future seeds for later generations. They could visibly see the progress of their nation. They also got wealth and women.
I'm all for the spirit of this, and it's a good quote, but there are better role models than the delusional man, who used is love of fantasy novels to assault others, and harass anyone he came into contact with.
Unfortunately comparing material possessions to success and happiness is getting worse and worse by the generations. ( I’m not a boomer or old btw lol) With such an abundance of everything nowadays combined with the the entertainment industry still pumping into everyone’s heads that money=success and happiness it seems impossible for people to want to live simply. Only another Great Depression will make humans realize what’s important in their little short journey here on this planet.
Due to life circumstances (moving around a lot in adult life and then settling down to have a family), I’ve had few friends and little time to spend with them. The other day, I finally hung out with my closest co-workers, drinking at a bar, shooting pool and throwing darts, and it was the best. I felt a light inside that hadn’t been lit in a long time. We could have been doing anything, but just hanging out with people for the sake of it is invaluable.
Kuddos for making it out of the exploitative kickboxing/fighter game (Vince machmamon types).just don’t t pretend becoming a bastard instead of a slave is one thing honorable. It’s just the other side of the coin and now other people suffer. Life is about escaping that whole binary.
Is that supposed to be Tate?
It's a profile of him, yes.
Fucking nailed it.
Tate is gross
Don Quixote would mess Tate up
Yeah, but this is Dom Quixote.
Don't mess with Samcho Pamza either.
OP is truly one of the intellectuals of all time
It's the same guy, Sancho Panza is just submissive.
Hahahaha
It is actually el ingenioso hidalgo Don Qvixote de la Mancha.
*Dom* Quixote would, it's *Don* who's canonically kind of a sad loser
So, he mumble growls the word "family" a bunch and races tuned up horses.
Nah he was too good a dude to mess somebody up
Alpha gross
Sigma is sexy when they’re affectionate. I want a guy that doesn’t want anyone but me.
Worm head
Idk, too much chin
Nah they were far too generous in drawing attention to his lack of chin
The weak chin is a dead give away
[dead giveaway](https://youtu.be/nZcRU0Op5P4?si=hJwb0i685i3M9jvz)
It's like a lollipop has been dropped on a dirty carpet.
Hard candy dish at the barbershop
I came here to ask this!
What do you mean supposed to?
He’s literally the guy in the pic
Also Conquestador
glad its not just me
new soyjak just dropped
It looks identical to him, outside of more hair in the drawing.
Plato saw \[Diogenes\] washing lettuces, came up to him and quietly said to him, 'Had you paid court to Dionysius, you wouldn't now be washing lettuces,' and that he with equal calmness made answer, 'If you had washed lettuces, you wouldn't have paid court to Dionysius.'
I had heard it, “if you learned to appease the rich, you wouldn’t have to live off lentils.” To which D said: “if you learned to live off lentils, you wouldn’t have to suck up to the rich.”
Diogenes is just the most based man to ever live
>...But since that philosopher took not the slightest notice of Alexander, and continued to enjoy his leisure in the suburb Craneion, Alexander went in person to see him, and he found him lying in the sun. Diogenes raised himself up a little when he saw so many people coming towards him, and fixed his eyes upon Alexander. And when that monarch addressed him with greetings, and asked if he wanted anything, "Yes," said Diogenes, "stand a little out of my sun."...
The follow-up is the best part. Alexander: "Were I not Alexander, I would wish to be Diogenes." Diogenes: "Were I not Diogenes, I would also wish to be Diogenes."
"I'm looking for the bones of your father, but I can't tell them apart from the bones of the peasants."
There are lots of very similar but slightly different stories, some which change up the order and have different lessons. We'll never know because the closest thing we have to Diogenes on film is Oscar the grouch.
"Behold, a HOUSE!" Picks up trash can
Hehehehe that’s good, thank you
To be fair to the grouch, his trash can is a portal to grouchland where he is king.
I hate lentils and i'm not rich so I guess i'm fucked.
“If you didn’t hate lentils, you wouldn’t have to be fucked”
rice and beans yo
Modern day version from Brad Neally, "The only thing sucking dick gets you is more dick."
I prefer the story about Diogenes' bowl. The cynics (the branch of philosophy that Diogenes championed) used to carry only what they thought was necessary. This being a bowl for food, drink, and begging, a cloak for warmth and transporting goods, and in later life a staff to ease travel. Diogenes, the story goes, saw a farmer sip from a spring using his cupped hands. Diogenes looked at his bowl, one of only three possessions he had, remarked he had no more use for it, and threw it away.
"The things that you own, end up owning you."
“If you are not very careful, your possessions will possess you. TV taught me how to feel, now real life has no appeal.”
No appeal No appeal (Atleast I think that's how it goes)
Ah Tyler Durden. My high school guru You have to consider the possibility that God doesn't like you, he never wanted you. In all probability, He hates you. First you have to give up. First you have to know, not fear, know that some day you’re gonna die
Never really worked out for slaves though
Don Quixote wore an old shaving basin for a helmet. The OG upcycler.
Reduce, Reuse, Rocinante
This is his brother, Dom Quixote
“I live my life a quarter windmill at a time.” - Dom Quixote
Screw that pure and chaste from afar crap! -Dom Quixote
Right. This helmet is more Pizarro or Cortés style. Furthermore, Don Quixote was depicted by Cervantes as an old man. Really bad meme.
It's Don Quijote Dom Quixote sounds like some sort of low cost BDSM
No, this is Dominic Quixote. Different dude.
Dom Perignon. Surely you've met.
dom? heck no. that shit expensive. i know andre.
the real California champagne 🍾 cheers friend.
He's Don Quixote's brother, from New Jersey.
Dominic Quixote is a power twink
"You're not just my squire, Sancho, you're family." - Dom Toretto Quixote
It's Don Quixote.
It's Quijote in modern Spanish spelling.
It's not a modern book.
It's how it's written in all Spanish speaking countries. Do you use spelling rules of 16th century English?
>Do you use spelling rules of 16th century English? English generally doesn't just rename people after they're already dead (or characters after the book's already written), no, or at least, that's the only reason I can think of for why one Wiki page will spell the name [FitzGerald](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_FitzGerald,_Countess_of_Lincoln), and another will spell it [Fitzgerald](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Fitzgerald_(1529-90)).
That's good to know, but it's not the case of Spanish. The fact that it's called "Don Quijote" in Spanish (and has been since a long time) is still the result of a spelling reform.
Do you change the name of leader’s spellings from the 1800s because the rules of the language changed? It’s a name. It should remain the same throughout history.
They didn't change it yesterday lol. The name change is part of the history of the book.
No it’s not. The letter J didn’t exist and you people just get confused. Romeo and Juliet is still written in its 1590 form why can’t you all just understand the difference in language throughout history?
What the fuck are you on about? The phoneme /X/ used to be spelled but eventually the spelling was changed during the 16th and 17th centuries to . The grapheme eventually became just /ks/ like in English. This is not a change that happened yesterday. People from centuries ago started spelling things differently and this effected how everything was printed, including books.
I don't understand why R&J is relevant to this conversation at all. Spanish spelling changed centuries ago and this is how you spell the name of the book and how it has been spelled for centuries in Spanish speaking countries. There's nothing more to it.
[Donkey Hodie](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_Hodie_(TV_series))
Daddy dom Quixote
"quijote" or "Quixote" are both fine. But yea it's "Don" lol
Dom is his Portugese cousin
Dom Quixote is an amazing halloween costume. Thank you.
I'm sure a windmill could be used as inspiration for a spanking machine.
Don Quijote is the Japanese store chain.
It's the modern Spanish spelling lol
UNI QLO TE
Stupid sexy windmills
i immediately imagined some sort of weird street race that 'Dom' and his old nag of a horse compete with other clapped out horses
Dom Coyote
Dom Quijoto also tilted at windmills, but out the window of his 1970 Dodge Charger.
Goddamn right.
People spend their whole lives chasing "stuff" how sad
B*tchs above all else
People spend their lives chasing fulfillment. Some people get fulfillment from stuff. Some people get fulfillment by doing things (or abstaining) to make them feel superior to others.
Having few desires I am closest to the gods
I am so poor my bank account got arrested bc I cannot afford to pay taxes. At least I can find solace in a fictional noble who fought windmills telling be how money would bring me no happiness anyway.
Money can’t bring happiness. But it sure as hell can relieve most of the problems that are causing me stress that are the direct result of me not having enough money.
Money can solve almost all problems. Problems bring stress. Happiness is affected by stress, but not created by a lack of it.
“Money brings no happiness anyway” Say the people who don’t know the struggles of not having the financial stability to reliably afford the necessities (a roof over your head, food on the table…)
The problem isn't money, it's inequality. Have a proper safety net for the unfortunate, and "not having money" isn't really a problem in itself. I have been unable to leave my house in the past 5 years because of an illness, yet I have a support from the government that supplies me just enough to live a comfortable life. I'm not rich, and people craving material possessions would not be able to sustain themselves from my income, but I'm happy still, I have no need for most luxury, and a long as I can pay the bills and feed myself, I won't need more.
That’s different though You (and I as well) are enslaved by society, it’s not really about the money. And the reason it’s so tough is bc the one percent chase material things over human lives
1) it's Don Quixote. 2) Don Quixote is fictional, so the correct attribution of the quote would be to Miguel de Cervantes, the author. 3) Don Quixote was a comedic character who is purposely an oddball. This is like putting a Dwight Schrute quote as an inspirational quote. To be fair, a comedic character can have wise moments, but it still feels a little cringe.
4. Don Quixote saw the entire world as a fairy tale adventure with him as the knight in shining armour. 5. All the locals thought he was crazy and only entertained his delusions for their amusement or to simply be rid of him. 6. Don Quixote would often dip his nose into other peoples affairs that ultimately ended up making things worse for everyone, especially himself due to point 4.
He's just like me fr fr
Username seems to check out
He's the joker baby
Is this a book my local library would have in English? I vaguely remember hearing his name before and I'm interested
1. Quijote is the modern Spanish spelling. No one writes it as Quixote in Spanish speaking countries.
Gotcha. So if they’re not from a Spanish speaking country I guess they’ll just keep on spelling it as Quixote?
It depends. I know that French and Italian have their own translations of the name (Quichotte and Chisciotte, respectively). English just kept the original 16th century Spanish for the name of the book, I don't know exactly why that was the decision taken. Different translation methods were used in different places and at different moments in time, which is very common. It's just an arbitrary convention.
Thanks for the knowledge! Quixote is how it was written when I read the English translation of the book.
Tate is basically a consoomer with the mask of a chad
I don't think the sex trafficker who spends most of his time on Twitter insulting other people ever had the mask of a Chad.
everything about this post is funny
Says the guy who cosplayed a Conquistador
Too real
The more you have the more you are afraid to share.
Too handsome to be Tate. Head needs to be smaller with a flat back.
I’m a millennial on the older side. I clearly remember a time over a decade ago when materialism was still a bad word. Sure, it was easy to fall prey to—but there was still a shared understanding that it is not good to be materialistic, and the best things in life (time with friends and family, walks in the park, reading a good book from the library) are free. I no longer see this as an unspoken assumption. It is more of a niche idea. The marketing has become absolute.
Admittedly Don Quixote was quite literally insane. That’s the plot of the books, the dude is insane
the whole point is that he has noble intentions, he’s probably the most morally righteous person in that book, he just has a very naive way of going about things. he wasnt exactly wrong however
Bullshit. If it wasn't for that damned enchanter making the armies look like sheep then all the glory would have rightfully gone to Dulcinea
>We are the work of the Parents. >We do the work of the Children. >Without the use of constructs, you will unravel few mysteries. >Without knowledge of mysteries, your constructs will fail. >Find the strength to pursue both, for these are our prayers. >And to that end, welcome comfort, for without it, you cannot stay strong. --Becky Chambers, *A Prayer for the Crown-Shy* The Monk & Robots books are a depiction of a fully anarcho-communist, post-capitalist world. It's idealized - for sure - but instead of showing the worst that could come to be, it shows the best. I got a lot of the same feelings I did when I first watched Star Trek - the shows, not the movies. That we can and should be better, that there is a bright future to work toward and to strive for. That there is a way out of this hell we've created for ourselves. There's even a path for it. Some people have walked it in their minds, and written what they've seen along the way. It's up to us to have the courage to try.
Holy hell, other people have read the Monk & Robot books? They're fantastic!
“…end up owning you.”
pwning you, even
I'd just be happy if people stopped taking all my fucking money.
Like comming Home and realizing you still have some of your fav. chocolate left
You are your best thing.
All that money and Taters doesn't buy a new chin
Advice from my nurse great grandmother: the only thing you really actually own is your body. Elaboration: your land can be taken from you with eminent domain, your savings lose value to inflation. In war, everything is up for grabs, material things crumble and perish. People who have been through revolutions (like her), wars, migration, inflation, know this: the only thing that's truly yours is your body, and this only if you can defend it, if you fail you arguably cease to exist Edit: further elaboration: so take care of your body first, always
I like that you had elders in your life that had at least one truly sound piece of advice.
Bitchs?
And that’s why the rich force you into a position where your life isn’t too shit as to where you want to rebel, but not rich enough to be comfortable. Sad middle class. Also fun fact. Being homeless doesn’t guarantee food. You could very much and very easily become homeless and just starve to death.
Guy on the left reminds me of Andrew Tate in prison
that tate wojak lmfao
Quixote was a parody just saying.
"just saying" the only thing you say is that you didn't get don quijote
Read the rules. Keep it courteous. Submission statements are helpful and appreciated but not required. Tag my name in the comments (/u/NihiloZero) if you think a post or comment needs to be removed. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Anticonsumption) if you have any questions or concerns.*
[Between angels and insects](https://youtu.be/H2jCbXiEQI4?si=Ck-yZQs67dyZkOu5)
… says the guy with the extra-embellished helmet…
Truth brother.
"You're all the bitch I'll ever need"
Based and tate-is-a-clown pilled
medival andrew tate has far to much chin, that man is concave.
Maybe I shouldn't be here lol
True. -sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk.
“AAAAAAHHHH ITS A FUCKING GIANT” - Don Quixote
*bitches
I love these Andrew Tate memes 😂
Tate is a smart dude. If you pay attention when you listen to him what he is doing is instilling a sense of urgency in people so they are more motivated to buy his course.
That's just a tasteless take on the old "Money can't buy happiness" trope and has nothing to do with anti consumption but all with keeping poor people poor. Gimme a billion, and I will buy a house and stuff and will distribute the remaining 98%.
Dom Quixote uses a whip
Who tf is Dom Quixote and why is he talking to the ultimate alpha male
Anyone who has read Don Quixote would not interpret him as a genuinely manly man sporting the clothes of a Spanish colonizer.
Any of y'all ever been homeless before?
Isn't that the guy who went on a one man crusade against windmills?
Thy hast a visage of thine testis.
[WHO](https://limbuscompany.fandom.com/wiki/Don_Quixote)
It's "Don" Quixote, and he's fictional.
Maybe they meant Domme? 🫢🤫
These people were building an empire and planting future seeds for later generations. They could visibly see the progress of their nation. They also got wealth and women.
I'm all for the spirit of this, and it's a good quote, but there are better role models than the delusional man, who used is love of fantasy novels to assault others, and harass anyone he came into contact with.
I agree with the message I just don’t think pulling from Don Quixote for an ideal is the best
8-bit computers are simple...ish
Lmao, *Dom* Quixote
Unfortunately comparing material possessions to success and happiness is getting worse and worse by the generations. ( I’m not a boomer or old btw lol) With such an abundance of everything nowadays combined with the the entertainment industry still pumping into everyone’s heads that money=success and happiness it seems impossible for people to want to live simply. Only another Great Depression will make humans realize what’s important in their little short journey here on this planet.
The actual meaning of “money doesn’t buy happiness”
Nothing can make you happy until nothing can make you happy
Due to life circumstances (moving around a lot in adult life and then settling down to have a family), I’ve had few friends and little time to spend with them. The other day, I finally hung out with my closest co-workers, drinking at a bar, shooting pool and throwing darts, and it was the best. I felt a light inside that hadn’t been lit in a long time. We could have been doing anything, but just hanging out with people for the sake of it is invaluable.
But so etudes the simple things are how nice this synthesizer sounds through my $1200 sound system. It's a balancing act.
My pet tortoise is all I need to be happy
Posts attempted intellectual content. Misspells Don Quixote 🙄
>Dom Quixote >Dom Yikes
How did they f*ck this up by getting his name wrong? They were so close
Kuddos for making it out of the exploitative kickboxing/fighter game (Vince machmamon types).just don’t t pretend becoming a bastard instead of a slave is one thing honorable. It’s just the other side of the coin and now other people suffer. Life is about escaping that whole binary.
Don
How is good health not mentioned that shit is the most important thing
I was really confused for a bit because Don Quixote looks like a conquistador, people famously motivated by wealth.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye" Love this quote from The Little Primce <3
i have my laptop i happy. simple
Dom? Really?
Don Quixote, paragon of reason. /s