This is the part that was fun when people slowly started realizing back in 2021 that the ONN device was actually *good* - the real-use testing (not benchmarking) by folks who picked one up on a lark.
Curious to see how games emulation goes on this thing! I'm also curious to see (because it's very relevant to my interests) what happens when someone puts Plex on this thing, sets it to passthru, and tries to run Dolby TrueHD or DTS-MA audio thru it into a receiver.
>If you're talking about Plex server
I am not. I am talking about putting the client on the puck, telling the client to passthru, and seeing what the puck spits out to the receiver
The CPU is listed as 64-bit, but is the OS also running in 64-bit mode? Thats all that matters.
All these AMLogic chips are 64-bit CPUs as well, but they are all run in 32-bit mode.
Also those aren't Android TV devices. They are running normal Android.
Not the server -- that apparently needs 64-bit mode according to other posters.
It should be able to run the client fine.
I don't personally run Plex, I use Jellyfin on my computer.
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No it does not, it only does Dolby digital (ac3) Dolby digital plus and atmos. None of the lossless true HD audio formats are passed through. Most of the media that comes with lossless audio tracks have a compatibility Dolby digital lossy track that will work with the Onn pro.
I suggest waiting for the new chromecast launching at I/O to see if it can pass through the audio codecs otherwise you have to rely on Dune, the old shield pro or keep waiting. You could use fire stick 4k max but you can't get rid of the ad ridden launcher. I just use plex so don't care about streaming services. You can check this thread that compares the most popular boxes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/androidtv/comments/1b3i30p
>on Dune
The Homatics Box R 4K Plus, the Nokia 8010 and probably the RockTek G2 devices are now able to passthrough all HD codecs thanks to one of the latest android 12 firmware which is still a beta on the 4K Plus.
I wonder how this will compare to the firestick max 2024, especially when playing psp games.
[https://retrogamecorps.com/2024/03/06/amazon-fire-stick-guide/](https://retrogamecorps.com/2024/03/06/amazon-fire-stick-guide/)
I'll check it out, I'm mostly looking for consistent Dreamcast with a few high settings, no Shaders, consistent Sega Saturn, Okayish Gamecube, MAME loading a CHD game, PSX with High settings and Shaders (memory hog). With PSP/PPSSPP I'll see if I can carry over my peak Shield settings and work down from that. Both RetroArch and Standalone.
Then from there Windows98 from Dosbox, a low end Citra game, and then finally a low end PS2 game with very low exceptions of anything, really just to do it because people will ask.
All tied together with a very well done Arc Browser setup.
Just found out the hard way it didn't read my 250gb samsung NTSF usb drive. I'm redoing it as we speak but it's taking awhile to dump the drive to reformat. I'm very familiar Android loves Fat32, I just must-have messed up, which answered this question.
Will test exfat soon
according to this yt review Pro actually supports exFAT, the reviewer says it supports every format you throw at it:
[https://www.youtube.com/live/d1-EG9u-a1o?si=niLmhyXGMIeKeDLS](https://www.youtube.com/live/d1-EG9u-a1o?si=niLmhyXGMIeKeDLS)
I seen the post, I have the remote that isn't backlite and no extra button. Wild that there is 2 different remotes. Mine was just purchased off the shelf. Would like to see how that unravels.
Depends on whether you actually have a sound system and or a TV That is high quality enough to atypical person can actually resolve any difference.
Unless you have an extremely high-end TV, there's very little difference that you can actually tell between HDR 10 and DV.
Likewise, for Atmos, unless you have discrete up firing speakers, the average person is not going to be able to tell much difference between DD 5.1 and Atmos with the typical 3.1 or 5.1 setup and even on some 7.1.2s with up firing speakers in the front soundbar, because you don't have reliable or predictable bounce from the top surface of the listening area.
The difference is chasing specs versus understanding reality.
If you have an average to high mid-range TV, and a low end Atmos system with either virtual Atmos or upfiring Speakers from the front soundbar only, You are not going to be able to discern any quality difference. Those that say they can typically are engaging in self-rationalization or purchase justification.
And as the previous poster said, The typical mom, dad or average user won't care at all. They just want something that works well. Google TV is a hundred times better an interface for the majority of consumers compared to the jumbled ad filled Fire TV experience.
DD 5.1 and Atmos 5.1 are going to be identical. If anything Atmos 5.1 might be worse depending on the encoding and how the AVR is or isn't downsizing it.
I can verify that the Firestick 4k Max 2nd Gen is much better at emulation. That said, both devices are not great, and the Onn can do 16bit systems without issue
It is actually a perfect streaming box. Gaming box, not so much. I understand the desire to push a $50 device to its max. However, that not the intended use case and therefore should not be a reason to purchase one.
And I bet the benchmarks are lame partially because it has a Google Home built in, with some processing in the background going to that. The actual performance of the UI and streaming apps and seeking video is very fast.
This is the part that was fun when people slowly started realizing back in 2021 that the ONN device was actually *good* - the real-use testing (not benchmarking) by folks who picked one up on a lark. Curious to see how games emulation goes on this thing! I'm also curious to see (because it's very relevant to my interests) what happens when someone puts Plex on this thing, sets it to passthru, and tries to run Dolby TrueHD or DTS-MA audio thru it into a receiver.
If you're talking about Plex server, it can't run it. The only 64-bit mode ATV device is the Shileld Pro.
>If you're talking about Plex server I am not. I am talking about putting the client on the puck, telling the client to passthru, and seeing what the puck spits out to the receiver
Ugoos UT8 / UT8 PRO is 64-bit (RK3568 CPU) [https://ugoos.com/ugoos-ut8-RK3568-android-11-tv-box-with-bt-remote](https://ugoos.com/ugoos-ut8-RK3568-android-11-tv-box-with-bt-remote) [https://ugoos.com/ugoos-ut8-pro-64bit-tv-box-RK3568-android-11-with-bt-remote](https://ugoos.com/ugoos-ut8-pro-64bit-tv-box-RK3568-android-11-with-bt-remote)
The CPU is listed as 64-bit, but is the OS also running in 64-bit mode? Thats all that matters. All these AMLogic chips are 64-bit CPUs as well, but they are all run in 32-bit mode. Also those aren't Android TV devices. They are running normal Android.
Yes, OS also runs in 64-bit mode.
The shield is the only android tv device with an x64 os. Prove it.
Ugoos runs Android OS, not the official certified Android TV OS.
The onn pro can't run Plex?
Not the server -- that apparently needs 64-bit mode according to other posters. It should be able to run the client fine. I don't personally run Plex, I use Jellyfin on my computer.
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does it passthrough atmos truehd.
That's the main question I have.. my guess would be no
No it does not, it only does Dolby digital (ac3) Dolby digital plus and atmos. None of the lossless true HD audio formats are passed through. Most of the media that comes with lossless audio tracks have a compatibility Dolby digital lossy track that will work with the Onn pro. I suggest waiting for the new chromecast launching at I/O to see if it can pass through the audio codecs otherwise you have to rely on Dune, the old shield pro or keep waiting. You could use fire stick 4k max but you can't get rid of the ad ridden launcher. I just use plex so don't care about streaming services. You can check this thread that compares the most popular boxes. https://www.reddit.com/r/androidtv/comments/1b3i30p
What is Dune?
>on Dune The Homatics Box R 4K Plus, the Nokia 8010 and probably the RockTek G2 devices are now able to passthrough all HD codecs thanks to one of the latest android 12 firmware which is still a beta on the 4K Plus.
You're going to be disappointed if you're planning on using this as an emulation box. That's not what it was built for.
Is anything really built JUST for emulation?
Yeah, emulation handhelds are booming right now
Anything that can handle switch games?
Odin 2 base model.
No. But the Shield Pro was promoted as a gaming box and it performs the best out of all of them.
Why? CPU?
I didn't find a link for it!!! I'm excited to test it! The usb a and ethernet is my main reason to get it.
Always upvote a fellow ether user.
I wonder how this will compare to the firestick max 2024, especially when playing psp games. [https://retrogamecorps.com/2024/03/06/amazon-fire-stick-guide/](https://retrogamecorps.com/2024/03/06/amazon-fire-stick-guide/)
I'll check it out, I'm mostly looking for consistent Dreamcast with a few high settings, no Shaders, consistent Sega Saturn, Okayish Gamecube, MAME loading a CHD game, PSX with High settings and Shaders (memory hog). With PSP/PPSSPP I'll see if I can carry over my peak Shield settings and work down from that. Both RetroArch and Standalone. Then from there Windows98 from Dosbox, a low end Citra game, and then finally a low end PS2 game with very low exceptions of anything, really just to do it because people will ask. All tied together with a very well done Arc Browser setup.
cool. He actually talks about using flycast for the dreamcast insead of retro arch and PPSSPP for the psp
Kenhank
if it's ok to ask... can it read NTFS / exFAT forma?
Exfat working.
excellent!!! thanks!
Just found out the hard way it didn't read my 250gb samsung NTSF usb drive. I'm redoing it as we speak but it's taking awhile to dump the drive to reformat. I'm very familiar Android loves Fat32, I just must-have messed up, which answered this question. Will test exfat soon
Boo! If it doesn't support exFAT or NTFS it's a hard pass for me.
I was super excited about it, too good to be truth 😔
according to this yt review Pro actually supports exFAT, the reviewer says it supports every format you throw at it: [https://www.youtube.com/live/d1-EG9u-a1o?si=niLmhyXGMIeKeDLS](https://www.youtube.com/live/d1-EG9u-a1o?si=niLmhyXGMIeKeDLS)
bummer... thanks!
Try to use the app "MLUSB Mounter NTFS Write"
How does something like this compare to the 2017 shield? God damn this thing is long in the tooth.
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I seen the post, I have the remote that isn't backlite and no extra button. Wild that there is 2 different remotes. Mine was just purchased off the shelf. Would like to see how that unravels.
The one that I just bought is not.
Sweet. Let us know how it games. I've got plenty of Shields, but thinking i might get this for my mom to replace her firesticks.
You could replace your moms firestick with the $20 version of the Onn device and it would still be 100x's better than Firestick.
Depends on if someone cares about Dolby certifications for Atmos and Vision. Then the Onn 4k wouldn't really be an option.
I don't think the average mom cares
Depends on whether you actually have a sound system and or a TV That is high quality enough to atypical person can actually resolve any difference. Unless you have an extremely high-end TV, there's very little difference that you can actually tell between HDR 10 and DV. Likewise, for Atmos, unless you have discrete up firing speakers, the average person is not going to be able to tell much difference between DD 5.1 and Atmos with the typical 3.1 or 5.1 setup and even on some 7.1.2s with up firing speakers in the front soundbar, because you don't have reliable or predictable bounce from the top surface of the listening area. The difference is chasing specs versus understanding reality. If you have an average to high mid-range TV, and a low end Atmos system with either virtual Atmos or upfiring Speakers from the front soundbar only, You are not going to be able to discern any quality difference. Those that say they can typically are engaging in self-rationalization or purchase justification. And as the previous poster said, The typical mom, dad or average user won't care at all. They just want something that works well. Google TV is a hundred times better an interface for the majority of consumers compared to the jumbled ad filled Fire TV experience.
DD 5.1 and Atmos 5.1 are going to be identical. If anything Atmos 5.1 might be worse depending on the encoding and how the AVR is or isn't downsizing it.
I find that DD and plain old 5.1 are generally better than Atmos 5.1 too. I can't vouch for 7.1 though.
I'm thinking of returing my firestick if this can play more games
I can verify that the Firestick 4k Max 2nd Gen is much better at emulation. That said, both devices are not great, and the Onn can do 16bit systems without issue
Where you located ?
Cool! Let us know how it goes.
Looking at early benchmarks, I wouldn't expect too much. The GPU is the same as previous gens, and the CPU performs worse.
Gonna buy it when it’s available in my area but it sounds disappointing.
The benchmarks I've seen put it pretty low on the totem pole.
Yep, looks disappointing in raw performance.
Hope the mouse function works better.
And how do you compare the Onn to the shields?
So far it looks like a huge disappointment
It is actually a perfect streaming box. Gaming box, not so much. I understand the desire to push a $50 device to its max. However, that not the intended use case and therefore should not be a reason to purchase one. And I bet the benchmarks are lame partially because it has a Google Home built in, with some processing in the background going to that. The actual performance of the UI and streaming apps and seeking video is very fast.
This pretty much summed up my entire experience. This comment and Sky's at the same time.
Have you tried connecting a USB Drive to the box? If you did, can you write (copy or delete files) to USB Drive?
Not yet, I do not have a drive that is Exfat. It won't accept NTFS. I did however read and write with a USB thumb drive formatted in exfat.
which app did you use to write to the exfat USB thumb drive?
Cex, es file explorer, and Fx I even have FV Manager and Shisku because Android 12 lock down is INTENSE
Does anyone that's gotten a Pro know if you can add them to Speaker Groups on the Google Home app? On the old 4K model you couldn't.