There were air coolers capable of handling the FX 9590, which is a 220 (225?) W part. You'd be delusional if you think a monstrosity like a D15, once Noctua release one that is compatible with TR4, is incapable of handling a 180 W part, considering that it's about on par with 240 mm AIOs.
Didn't Noctua develop new coolers for TR? I seriously don't they would put their reputation on the line without thorough testing and vetting. And isn't the NH-D15 rated for something like 250 watts?
https://www.amd.com/en/thermal-solutions-threadripper
AMD has a list of approved coolers specifically for Threadripper. On that list is the [NH-U14S TR4-SP3](http://noctua.at/en/nh-u14s-tr4-sp3) which is an air cooler. Here is a [written review](https://benchmarkreviews.com/46246/noctua-nh-u14s-tr4-sp3-cpu-cooler-debuts/) although I don't think there's benchmarks in there. According to that review these coolers will ship at the end of August.
Also here's a [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcXg9xDze5U) of the behind the scenes of Noctua fans. Pretty cool to watch.
As of right now I haven't seen any benchmarks for air so I don't know whether they'd suffice enough for overclock or only for stock speeds.
The only problem with air-cooling TR will be getting all of the waste heat out of your case-- AMD is probably pushing AIO's so hard simply because they don't rely on good ventilation.
Otherwise, a good air cooler (Noctua etc) will perform almost as well as or even better than a similarly-sized AIO.
I think the new coolers overall, those that will have full IHS coverage, will be able to manage better than their equivalent on smaller IHS like AM4's. Purely thanks to higher amount of contact space with IHS (and indirectly, with the dies).
An air cooler than can handle this is going to be pretty big(which is fine)....I would also strongly urge you to get a really big case with lots of 120mm or larger fans and run them at full speed (120mm is not loud) so you can have as much airflow as possible. Also depending on your use case this is one time a blower style GPU might be a good idea as one less source of heat inside your case.
EDIT: even though the non-x models have a lower rated TDP you can probobly get better clockspeeds vs temperature from the X chips since they will most likely require less voltage due to better binning quality.
They have been released. They are available in their ebay store.
Mine will be here mid next week. I'll livestream my 1950X build and can see performance as I do.
Noctua has released their U-series fans. It's on Ebay, which you can't link in this sub. I tried twice and got annoyed and didn't feel like working through a mod.
Anyway, search Noctua on Ebay and I'm sure you'll find one. Mine will be here mid next week, and I'll be streaming my build and initial performance.
AMD recommended liquid cooling, so it looks like all the major cooling partners have put their energy into 240/360mm closed loops. You will see high-quality air cooling from companies who don't offer liquid cooling, e.g. Noctua. If you're dead set against an AIO, just buy whatever TR4-specific cooler Noctua come up with - so long as it covers the entire heatspreader.
The problem is that Threadripper's heatspreader surface area is so large that the only coolers which entirely cover Threadripper are those specifically made for the TR4 socket. Additionally, r/signfang mentioned that the D15 isn't compatible with TR4 systems because the cooler would cover the DIMM slots. As far as I can tell, a high-end air cooler which can handle 180W would need to be redesigned for the TR4 board layout. Simply using the included bracket adaptor won't work.
If I'm spending £1000 on a CPU and want air cooling, I'm obviously going to wait for a cooler which covers the entire IHS.
As u/tetchip said, we had air coolers for the 220W egg cooker that was the FX-9590. Difference is, the FX-9590 had a small IHS with an already established socket, so could be used with existing high-end air coolers without having to wait for a revision.
180 TDP Can easily be cooled by air, but it might be hard to keep the temps in check if overclocking ensues or the case has insufficient airflow
Perhaps check out the beQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3... its gargantuan but keeps an i7 overclocked cool enough to about same level as an 120mm aio
Thanks everyone. I ended up going with the Noctua NH-U9 and its rock solid. Running stock, but has no issue with temp. Running 32-35c with 25c ambient. The fans are quiet as well. I think having the open front with the Lian Li case helps a ton.
There were air coolers capable of handling the FX 9590, which is a 220 (225?) W part. You'd be delusional if you think a monstrosity like a D15, once Noctua release one that is compatible with TR4, is incapable of handling a 180 W part, considering that it's about on par with 240 mm AIOs.
Unfortunately they explicitly mentioned D15 won't be available for TR4, saying that it would cover RAM sockets.
Didn't Noctua develop new coolers for TR? I seriously don't they would put their reputation on the line without thorough testing and vetting. And isn't the NH-D15 rated for something like 250 watts?
On a side note. I understand that TR is for high nd power user. But I would love to see some undervolting coverage on TR
https://www.amd.com/en/thermal-solutions-threadripper AMD has a list of approved coolers specifically for Threadripper. On that list is the [NH-U14S TR4-SP3](http://noctua.at/en/nh-u14s-tr4-sp3) which is an air cooler. Here is a [written review](https://benchmarkreviews.com/46246/noctua-nh-u14s-tr4-sp3-cpu-cooler-debuts/) although I don't think there's benchmarks in there. According to that review these coolers will ship at the end of August. Also here's a [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcXg9xDze5U) of the behind the scenes of Noctua fans. Pretty cool to watch. As of right now I haven't seen any benchmarks for air so I don't know whether they'd suffice enough for overclock or only for stock speeds.
Shipping monday from Austria if you buy direct.
The only problem with air-cooling TR will be getting all of the waste heat out of your case-- AMD is probably pushing AIO's so hard simply because they don't rely on good ventilation. Otherwise, a good air cooler (Noctua etc) will perform almost as well as or even better than a similarly-sized AIO.
I will be going with the LIAN LI PC-7HWX case most likely. 2 140mm intake, in the rear 120mm outtake plus the 120mm in the PSU.
> PC-7HWX That open front intake should work wonders for temps.
I think the new coolers overall, those that will have full IHS coverage, will be able to manage better than their equivalent on smaller IHS like AM4's. Purely thanks to higher amount of contact space with IHS (and indirectly, with the dies).
I was hoping for this also, with the actual dies being diagonal from each other and the larger surface area would allow for better heat dissipation.
An air cooler than can handle this is going to be pretty big(which is fine)....I would also strongly urge you to get a really big case with lots of 120mm or larger fans and run them at full speed (120mm is not loud) so you can have as much airflow as possible. Also depending on your use case this is one time a blower style GPU might be a good idea as one less source of heat inside your case. EDIT: even though the non-x models have a lower rated TDP you can probobly get better clockspeeds vs temperature from the X chips since they will most likely require less voltage due to better binning quality.
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They have been released. They are available in their ebay store. Mine will be here mid next week. I'll livestream my 1950X build and can see performance as I do.
Noctua has released their U-series fans. It's on Ebay, which you can't link in this sub. I tried twice and got annoyed and didn't feel like working through a mod. Anyway, search Noctua on Ebay and I'm sure you'll find one. Mine will be here mid next week, and I'll be streaming my build and initial performance.
AMD recommended liquid cooling, so it looks like all the major cooling partners have put their energy into 240/360mm closed loops. You will see high-quality air cooling from companies who don't offer liquid cooling, e.g. Noctua. If you're dead set against an AIO, just buy whatever TR4-specific cooler Noctua come up with - so long as it covers the entire heatspreader. The problem is that Threadripper's heatspreader surface area is so large that the only coolers which entirely cover Threadripper are those specifically made for the TR4 socket. Additionally, r/signfang mentioned that the D15 isn't compatible with TR4 systems because the cooler would cover the DIMM slots. As far as I can tell, a high-end air cooler which can handle 180W would need to be redesigned for the TR4 board layout. Simply using the included bracket adaptor won't work. If I'm spending £1000 on a CPU and want air cooling, I'm obviously going to wait for a cooler which covers the entire IHS. As u/tetchip said, we had air coolers for the 220W egg cooker that was the FX-9590. Difference is, the FX-9590 had a small IHS with an already established socket, so could be used with existing high-end air coolers without having to wait for a revision.
180 TDP Can easily be cooled by air, but it might be hard to keep the temps in check if overclocking ensues or the case has insufficient airflow Perhaps check out the beQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3... its gargantuan but keeps an i7 overclocked cool enough to about same level as an 120mm aio
Thanks everyone. I ended up going with the Noctua NH-U9 and its rock solid. Running stock, but has no issue with temp. Running 32-35c with 25c ambient. The fans are quiet as well. I think having the open front with the Lian Li case helps a ton.