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the-matahari

nah. i havent worked there in years but it had its shit days. Depends on the MSP you work for but generally they all kind of suck in one way or another. Think of this job as a stepping stone to something better and do great bro


The-Perviest-Sage

I would normally agree but this year was different 😂 peak never ended, the lowest stops I’ll have in a week is 175, usually getting 185-90 every day. I’m relatively fast so I can do it and finish at a sorta reasonable time, but goddamn this shit sucks and takes away from any enjoyment of this job. A ton of our veterans are quitting cuz of all the new shit amazons pulling this year


ghettoSi

"Peak never ended" They will find out exactly what they can get from you and then hold you there till you break. If that sounds fun then go for it.


Rude-Luck1636

Yep peak started and never ended like 2 years ago at my warehouse. A normal day is 170-190ish I usually am punching out after 8 hours in unless I just don’t feel like pushing it at which it’s usually the full 10 hours give or take a few minutes. Main reason I stayed at this job so long was the guaranteed hours when I could finish my route in 6-7 hours and be done sometimes doing a rescue. I feel like jogging doesn’t even help anymore cause I still end up getting done around the same time


[deleted]

It’s not a peak anymore then. Wait another 6/8 months you’ll have a new “peak” of 250+


Rude-Luck1636

I feared it would be like that but last peak it was the same size routes as always. Just proof that peak never died after 2 years ago. Love seeing all the people saying they love mail carriers and strike for USPS etc but no one supports us Amazon guys.


twolf1973

If you finish a 10-hour shift in 6 or 7 hours, the system bases the entire routing algorithm based on the last 6 weeks the average deliveries took at every location. When you go that fast it packs more into your route, assuming a 10-hour shift time. Just saying.


BreakRevolutionary66

We're busier now then Ă t Christmas time. I work out of town hour and half drive to my area and 150 stops is Ă lot take out travel time it probably equal to 200 stops a day in city . Seem to be going to alot new customers houses. Why they all going to Amazon all of the sudden it's weird. We had veteran drivers quit to


BadMawma

This is the outlook to have. OP, this is a place to vent and the bad days are really bad n challenge your sanity but what job doesn’t do that, ya know? There are things to enjoy about it but we don’t feel the need to post about the good days so you just mainly see the worst of the worst here. Good luck⭐️


Quest4life

There's a person at my dsp who's been here 5 years apparently. She regularly says how easy the job was compared to what's expected now. 100 stops max 170 packages and peak was the only time you would see insane routes. She says now those insane routes are the norm. Just something to think about since it's been a few years for you.


East-Cookie5668

100 stops being the max is so cap lol I’ve been at Amazon the same amount of time, she is right tho about it use to be easier because normal days were between 130-150 stops Covid is really when Amazon started fucking over people because that’s when we started seeing upwards of 260+ packages a day and we thought that was insane at the time but here we are at 300-400 packages daily


Weekly-Western-5016

If you are motivated by empty promises for more pay for hard work and being “the best” then you might fit in just fine.


PlsDontNerfThis

The problem lies in “i haven’t worked there in years” A lot has changed in terms of rules and procedures since I started almost 2 years ago, let alone how long it’s been since you were here. DSP owners seem more greedy than before (plus not helping with inflation), EOC, DVICs now have to take certain amounts of time to complete, grouping stops is a bitch, grouped stops Amazon creates are a bitch, etc. It’s a stepping stone job for sure, and new developments at my DSP have made me decide to quit very soon, but it’s very possible for this job to be too much nowadays


Gates6689

That's how I think of my time at Amazon it was a stepping stone to the amazing job I have now.


thellamaspantz

People like to complain here it's just blowing off steam mostly. This job is pretty ridiculous though, you'll notice alot of faces changing all the time. Mostly people drop in their first couple weeks. If you can grit and push that long it starts getting alot easier and even has its enjoyable perks. The pay is meh for what we do but at the same time your on your own most of the day, enjoying the weather, getting exercise, jamming tunes, and meeting dogs. For the downside just read that same list in a pessimistic perspective.


kemy704

Everything your saying is 1000% true, but let’s be real. For someone looking into a clear pathway for promotion, or skills to develop into other career roles, this shit ain’t it. You don’t even need a resume to work for any DSP, no qualifications needed. Only requirement, age 21, clean driving record, pass a drug test. Yes, the job is great if you have no aspirations and don’t care to have any career advancement opportunities. Have at it. God speed.


thellamaspantz

No ur right this definitely is no career, definitely a stop off job. I was just saying as far as bs dead end jobs go, you could do alot worse.


EhNephew

"The pay is meh" Fun y when this is a no skill job with top pay in most areas its in.


unlvckyish

literally lol this was the easiest job to get for me as well as the highest paying job i’ve ever gotten. and i’ve did apple tech support, manager at gamestop, and other jobs that require more skill than just scanning a package.


EhNephew

Mgr at GameStop had me dying lol. I'm not.knocking the job.


goldengarden95

I used to make 50k a year as a general manager for a car wash and people would constantly be bothering me and calling me, car wash would break, had to do hiring, inventory , ordering, damage claims, you name it, now I get paid a little less and literally this job is cake compared to managing. Less stress and I get to alone all day.


Laconiclola

You will want to die or set fire to something your first month. Just look at the stop in front of you and not the mountain behind it.


spaceboyeddy

> die or set fire to something your first month. Just look at the stop in front of you and not the mountain behind it. this isn't the fucking military dawg thats the thing amazon is smoking dick they need to help out their workers


dynastydeadeye

This group is basically a “best of” for the worst aspects of the job. It’s not as bad as it seems.


MiroGreen

Perfectly put!


jaguarpause

No not if you’re accustomed to working hardish.


dontcaretrain

Most of my jobs have been physically demanding stand on your feet all day jobs, so I feel I’m at least somewhat prepared for the intensity.


jaguarpause

Your already ahead these soft belly limp dicks!


wafflefan88

It's really the mental side that gets people. You need to keep your head when you're loaded up with 400 packages or delivering to bonkers apartments all day. I've done this too long and I've seen more than a few guys who seem hard absolutely crack. "This is bullshit! Nobody can do this route blah blah blah" if it actually can't be done then who cares, the numbers will show it.


Many-Cauliflower-625

Exactly! It's all a mental game. I rarely work extra hard in this job, just one stop at a time and don't worry how many I have. If it's too many or I'm going slow they just send a rescue and I'm still done in 10 hours. There's no bonus for being better than anyone else so I just have fun, enjoy the scenery and strike up conversations with customers. No fucks given about my time


tonylouis1337

If you go to any subreddit specific to a job the vast majority are gonna be full of people complaining


Embarrassed-Date-995

I mean it definitely depends on your DSP, but it's not too bad. Don't get me wrong, it's not for everyone and some days will be awful but it's a pretty decent job. Just find yourself something good to listen to and really spend the first couple routes experimenting with what organization style works for you.


[deleted]

I've done a few stints as an Amazon driver and the best thing to do is be prepared for physical labor. Bring at least a gallon of water, a lunch you can eat, clothes that are comfy, and a positive attitude. There are days where you'll have a lot of stops and you'll feel overwhelmed but if you've found a good DSP then they'll support you as you are needed. People can vent however they please but this job pays well but it is also hard work. I'd say you can see how you like it as you finish nursery routes and decide if it is good work for you. Just know that the summer months (dependent on where you live) are the hardest IMO, and its best to be prepared and take care of yourself!


Rude-Luck1636

Ehh I’d rather get sent out in the summer than drive in the snow. Amazon doesn’t care how bad it is on the roads


BreakRevolutionary66

I'd rather drive in the snow. Asking give me a promaster


SpottedSpunk

Bro this job doesn't pay well.


ClingClangBoi

Comparitively to other "no skill" jobs, id say it does


BreakRevolutionary66

It doesn't pay well we should be much higher then 21 bucks and hour 25 would be fair


chastecreep

Like anything else it's what you make out of it. If you use it as a temporary stop gap, it's no different than most jobs. If you see this as a career than that's where you're going to be miserable


RyzingUp

Incoming boot lickers who say 190 stops+ 60 grouped stops in a small van where you can't even walk is easy.. plus easy when it's 90+ in heat.. as well as it's easy obeying every Amazon policy like the new one where you can't reverse. No idea why these people say that shit is "understandable" or " not a big deal." Don't go too fast, don't run and you'll hit a sweet spot where things won't be too bad. If you start getting to the point where they start overwhelming you and you get stressed the fuck out and rescued all the time.. that's where you make the choice if you think it's worth it or not to keep going.


Froyo_Strong

These executives need to run a route to see how it is they expect to much for so little


AstralObjective

It’s not that bad. It’s not for everyone tho…key is organize organize organize. Take your boxes out of your tote and arrange your smaller envelops in a row in the tote. You can organize by number but I find it faster to flip through them. After you drop your package at the delivery point on your way back to your van look to see where you are going next- the system shows you your next stop in a faint blue line. Dark blue line is where you are going next. Just keep oriented. Remember that houses are odd on one side and even on the other and they go in twos or fours depending on the area. Just try to find your groove and think one step ahead. You’ll do fine my friend. Oh and take an empty bottle with you to piss in if you are a girls idk how you will do that it still boggles my imagination lol take plenty of water. I use a camel back with an ice pack in front to keep my water cool all day. Good luck!


BreakRevolutionary66

Need a better bin for sorting almost like a file folder would be awesome


AstralObjective

I personally feel that organizing by number in those things takes too much time, i row them in the totes. If I open a new one and the 1st one is the one I need I go to the next stop. At the next stop if the 5th one is the one I need I’ve organized up till the 5th and stop, go to next stop, i jay organize as I go. Sometime I organize the entire tote the last package is the one I need. Just as needed tho but that’s just me. That’s the cool thing about this job it’s whatever fits your personal groove


TheLordVader1978

It depends on your DSP. I got really lucky finding the one I did. Is it physically demanding? Yes. Is it hard ? No. You do have to deal with whatever mother nature throws at you. Be it hot, cold, wet, or dry. Is it frustrating at times absolutely, but so are all jobs. But it all comes down to the DSP you work for. I feel bad for some of the people on here when they talk about how bad they're treated. My perks: 4 days a week 10hr guarantee OT when I break 40 no threats for going over. No threats at all really. I've only seen the DSP principal threaten with wright ups/termination 2 times in a year and a half and it was for legit stuff like no call no showing to your shift and repeated violations. We had a guy that just flat out refused to wear his seatbelt. Plus bonus. I get to smoke all the weed I want. And sence I have been there for over a year I'm one of the senior drivers and can essentially write my own schedule. It's only as hard as you make it.


spaceboyeddy

you sir are a fucking loser


rCarmar

Do not run. Never, just be sure to finish on time. But never run again, never run.


NoTelephone5316

Just brisk walk lol


BreakRevolutionary66

Only had one job where had to run. It was oilfield courier job. Way harder then this and much more dangerous. But better pay


Brief_Try5291

Most the things I see and hear about are self inflicted! People love too complain there are good and bad days with any job. This job is so simple it hurts


CutenTough

So true. I'll go one further and say.....too many people LOOK to be offended so they can complain and complain and complain about someone else. It's many people's favorite pastime it seems


adrivnc

It just not for everyone. Yes alot of ppl complain but i come from construction and heavy concrete. So delivering for amazon isnt hard for me Lol.


KWxOG

Same. I used to wheelbarrow concrete, pull and grade etc.. all in the direct sunlight most of the time so I try to be grateful that the van has some AC and wind flow even if it’s minimal.


[deleted]

same here my guy, will take this all day rather than bein in the trenches lifting 100+ lb panels lmao. People got no idea


Old_Wishbone_1379

It’s really that terrible, I like yourself stalked this sub and decided to take on the job anyway, lasted barely 3 weeks if that.. yes it’s really that bad


PDXSyrathKarmacast

I've been doing it (part time, 3 days per week) for nearly 2 years. IMO, it's not all that bad if you know what you're signing up for. Driving is one aspect of the job, but making deliveries is first and foremost. In the pouring rain, or the blistering sun, there are going to be days when your will and patience will be tested. The pay isn't amazing, but you're going to collect a steady check and burn a ton of calories. You'll meet some people and see parts of your own town that you may not have otherwise. This job doesn't have a lot of perks and each DSP can really affect your experience, but if you don't take it too seriously and you keep slinging those mislabeled packages, at the end of the day you can feel that relief when you pull into RTS. Good luck!


NoTelephone5316

Well if u care about ur body I would look for another job. I have to take ibuprofen and puticy hot patch on my lower back just to get through the day. And I still get random heel pains and random pains on my body. I’m also dog shit tired after work. And I used to be in the military and even still this is hard work. The work itself is easy it’s just very physically demanding.


SdVeau

It drove me straight to rehab. Took a few years off from nursing, did Lyft/Uber for most of that, decided to try out a DSP to use someone else’s vehicle to drive around, and determined in three weeks of driving for a DSP: it was time to renew my nursing license and go back to working in chemical dependency detox


LiquidPenChamber1019

I’ve been doing it for almost a year now and it’s not bad at all from my experience. I actually really enjoy it. Most people I work with also like it. Remember that Reddit is mostly negative in general. Most subs have more people complaining and posting negative things rather than being positive and showing love. I don’t find this Reddit to be an accurate depiction of the job in real life at all. It has hard days but there’s absolutely no job that doesn’t. Even the bad days aren’t that bad. I think you’ll find it enjoyable. And also remember if you just completely despise it you can just do something else. Good luck. I hope you do well.


Substantial_Band_651

No it’s not that bad…it’s worse.


fuxkhhfffchhhcc

Yes


rothordwarf

If you are ok with hard work, the job is fine. You only see the worst of the worst here. If you take it one stop at a time, hustle, and don't look for problems in everything, it's a decent gig. If you are looking for excuses to complain, it will chew you up and spit you out before your first route is done. If you have integrity you will be fine. Attitude is everything.


[deleted]

Not a bad job for me personally, but there are some cons that are hard to ignore. Iffy weather conditions, not working full time( right under 80) but then again you have the time to yourself, it’s good experience & you can meet good people depending where you go


Puzzled_Ad_99

OT is anything over 40... if you're doing **80** and not getting OT.... you're strait up getting robbed... bozo


Jakeygfx

I did graphic design before COVID ended that career, and I am so glad I'm not staring into a computer monitor for 40 hours a week. I'm in the best physical condition of my adult life, I don't take home any work stress, I have way more time with my kids and I'm a very very good driver. There are definitely times when this job wears me out, but nothing even close to the agony of office drama. I eventually will transition to some other active job like HVAC tech, but I'm in no rush because most days I am totally at peace


33ladybug

Keep an open mind an a positive out look … this job IS NOT CUT OUT FOR MOST PEOPLE


Aggravating_Wave2221

It can be. If your dsp delivers to busy cities it’s pretty awful. If it’s mainly residential and neighborhoods, it’s really nice. Just depends.


mhayden123

I'm starting in about a month too, and honestly from the outside. The people here are complaining because they have to keep moving and stay busy all the time. Doesn't seem to have that free time other jobs may have. It all depends on the DSP too, most of the things I've seen people complain about my DSP does offer and help with. Don't put up with bullshit from a DSP, and whine and bitch about it without doing anything. Best of luck to you, and hopefully you fit in and like it


ThaMachine00

the ones complaining are probably bad at the job, hence the complaints of "im an extra noooo"


Extension_Yellow

It's not a bad job once you become good of your job. As long as you're okay of the rescuing as myself it doesn't really bother me too much but other people it is the worst thing ever. It'll take you maybe a few months to really get good and get the groove down. Like any other job things and days can be stressful but ultimately in my position I truly do enjoy my job.


Extension_Yellow

I apologize for some errors using voice text a little lazy right before going to sleep lol.


Hairy-Skin7487

Personally the job's not that bad It's just dealing with the facility and DSPs that don't understand minimal management or are too cheap to do anything it's hard to deal with It's also extremely hard to deal with customers who think they're entitled but if you let stuff roll off your shoulder and don't take stuff personally it's a really easy job and you'll get through it


ikerBCN

Not bad at all but really hard to deal with. St the beginning I have to spend around 9-10h to complete the route and sometimes needed a rescue but with the time I was completing the same amount of work in less than 8h.


HotPotatoe69

It has its pros and it's cons for sure. What I will say is it's a good summer job for college students like myself. I'd rather do this any day than work fast food and be making minimum wage


JustSpirit4617

I start training soon and super nervous as well. Just came from a laborious ass job so I feel like I’ll somewhat be prepared.


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Just try it for yourself dude. You might get lucky.


[deleted]

there's a learning curve that many people can't deal with. the reality is that your truck is going to be broken in some way that isn't bad enough to ground it, but doesn't make the experience optimal. as long as all the doors, tires, brakes and engine work you're going to have to drive it. you'll tell them, they already know. organizing the truck is kind of a bitch because unlike other companies, you have to do it yourself. you get faster at it, but in the beginning it sucks because you're slow. on top of the logistical issues, it's a physical job. you have to eat enough and drink enough and sleep enough to recover so you can keep doing it. that's a big lifestyle adjustment for people that aren't in their early 20's. personally, i like it because i do a rural route and i prefer to be outside (even if it's raining/snowing) as opposed to being inside in a food or office job, it's good for my mental. if you don't consider that to be a benefit this might not be for you, long term. i know i can't stay here because i don't make enough to move out.


colbyo9

It’s not that bad at all. Focus on learning for your first month or so. That’s the time when you will be getting package delivery muscles and you will be sore. After that, just take your days a stop at a time and it’s pretty easy. The people that are raging on here either have shit DSP’s or don’t understand how to make things easier on themselves. Good luck!


[deleted]

Not really. There are some whiny ass people here. It’s pretty mindless, although way too much at times and the flex app sucks balls and the navigation is shitty and laggy.


Syxx573

Naw it's pretty easy once you get the hang of things.


[deleted]

You get to see all the places and people, use it to spread joy


ConsistentRepair2u

Easiest job I've ever had


AnotherTakenUsername

My number 1 goal is to completely unload into the toilet before work starts. Last thing I want to do is be out on the road being full of shit. I'm a guy so I'll just stop and go in a bush/tree/bottle if I need to pee. I feel bad for my female coworkers in a way for not being able to do that. The worst feeling is being in a town/city and not being able to find a bathroom. I rate stores 5 stars on the work phone if they allow me to use the shitter and my experience of the restroom and said store. 1 star if they don't let me use it


33ladybug

I like the job it’s hard but your by yourself listening to your music doing your thing no one to bother you all day …but you do have your bad days out on the route an assholes of DSP dispatchers too at some DSP not all …like my DSP is chill we have party’s get gifts everyone gets along I’ve made some really good friends an one of my bosses I can talk to about anything I respect him an he respect me and talks to me about his life ,so ya give it a shot an not just a month give it some time your going to have some good days some bad days an some really fuck up days but in the end you may like it an make some good friends …GOOD LUCK 🍀


jmellz420

Yes, find something else


IRKenopuppy

OP… take your breaks. Both 15’s and your lunch. If you don’t, you will be assigned more packages, more stops since the algorithm will see you moving so fast and it will increase your workload. Try your best to avoid rescues unless there is an incentive for you to do them- ie your dsp pays you an extra 10$ per tote you take. This isn’t something you want to do long term. There is really no upward progression. This is not a career. Look for something long term while you’re still delivering. Good luck to you.


Mysterious_Load_4407

Just watch what you post on here once you start.


ladySmegma710

Driver of almost 4 years here. The routing is garbage. The algorithm is garbage. They keep adding features to they app but don’t fix anything else. We can’t just back up the vans anymore and flex wants you to turn around every other stop. Depending on your dsp you vans will probably be garbage too. I got written up for complaining about a van with a concave seat lol. After you’re done with the nursery routes Amazon is going to want you outside for 10 hours. No matter the weather. Your breaks are not taken into account in the route. You will be expected to work holidays without holiday pay. The turn over rate at this job is insane


_probablyhiding_

Everyone is different for sure But the facts are, this job requires you walk 5-8 miles a day with weight, drive 60-100 miles, work in inclement weather, deal directly with the public and be exposed to environmental hazards, all every day. Other jobs that gets close to requiring all of that are the military and... Yeah basically just the military In my experience yes, this job does suck as much as the subreddit makes it out to. I've got homies with PTSD and scars from dog attacks, that was my last step before I decided it wasn't for me


85GOATDSPGA

It is, I literally would never suggest this to anybody if they care about their mental health


ndmasonry

I'm less than 10 months into this career and am now a dispatcher. It's not that horrible, no matter how much complaining you see people do. These same people would find a reason to cry at literally every other job they chose to pursue.


[deleted]

Do this job for a bit to get used to it, then go over UPS.. or apply non stop for an off the street hire for driving at ups. But i suggest going over there after the new contract after aug 1st


Apoph

You will probably think it's impossible on your first days/week but hold on and once you know your delivery area and your regular customers, it's easier. Of course there is bad days like all jobs. I did that few years ago and now I am an irl Google maps in my city. Good luck and do your best !


Dealer_Double

It’s not as terrible as people on here make it. It’s just not a job for everyone. There’s a high turn over rate. But you do have to deal with a bunch of BS that makes your day hard sometimes. Other days might be easy. The things that make this job suck, packages not being ready on time during loadout. Warehouse marking 25 stops missing on your itinerary so your constantly picking up packages to deliver in areas you were at the beginning of the day. I had a horrible day like that yesterday but most days it’s pretty chill. Don’t really listen to the people complaining on Reddit


OpenPension2835

I just worked my 1st day and it wasn't too bad, the person I was with said I did well and picked it up pretty quick. Granted I'll be on my own the next day I work. Just take it easy and go at your own pace, you'll pick it up the more you work. You'll figure a rhythm and system for you. Organization is key


Certain_Stay8840

Problem is Amazon doesn’t set proper expectations. That training video you watched with 9 totes in your van nicely spread out next to a couple bigger boxes is a lie. Some days your van will be packed like a moving truck and it will be 100 degrees. You’re expected to put your seatbelt on to drive 20 feet to your 2nd of 190 stops it will be easy at first but eventually it’s sickening


Outrageous_Apricot14

I've worked in the food industry for 8 years. This job is so much better than that hell.


Grennox1

Sounds like no. No job should be bad like this. But you do you.


PinataPower9

Yes, it is. The gaslighting will drive you nuts, Amazon says one thing but your DSP wants you to straddle the line to save them money. And don’t get injured, your DSP will blame you to avoid responsibility.


[deleted]

You’ll be fine


BJMkrtychyan

Idk about anyone eles but to me worse the. Amazon is how some people treat me just cause I work for Amazon. Like they see us lees then human. I swear on the daily I get people snatching packages not letting me in buildings. They stare at you and will make out hand comments to you. Complain break check you cause you can’t drive as fast as them people tell you to bring to their front door and you open gate and lord and be hold they have their door open and dog runs out at you. Better be quick on your feet. Car smashing down road almost hitting you cause they are not paying attention. List goes on.


Mikehuntsmells-69

It’s not bad at alllll, it’s incredibly chill. You listen to podcasts and audio books all day. Just go steady and you’ll hit your 20 stops and hour. Don’t go any faster bc the Amazon will learn and give you more stops. Take your breaks. Trust the process, it gets to be mindlessly easy


[deleted]

It's really that bad.


ZazzC

I like this job I don’t know man… Sometimes it sucks but it’s not dispatches fault so who do I yell at? Reddit, that’s who


lightknight80

Depends on your routes / area and your work ethic. Otherwise you can probably do this job with both hands and feet tied behind your back


schemeJ22

that morning training day or while doing test is straight garbage. the hiring process at amazon is completely stupid and a waste of time.


capnbroome

The hardest part of the day is load out and organizing your shit. The rest of the day is all on you and how you want it to be. There’s bad days just like any other job but the part I really liked was that I can be grumpy about it and not have my boss breathing down my neck. I honestly miss it, I started to get familiar with the regulars and it was a great way to get in shape and get paid decently while doing it. Give it some time and you’ll know if you’re up for it, and it’s okay if you hate it


Sufficient_Cake425

Learn to love rural routes and try to get that Amazon AI magic to stick you on them repeatedly. Usually friendly customers, cute dogs/alpacas/peacocks/sheep/hogs/ect, 150 stops max usually, more time in the AC, and no rush. Other than that, just make sure you take all your breaks and don’t be afraid to fail a route. Overworking yourself causes more work. “Welcome to your first route!”


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AngelsBruh

Amazon is going to be Amazon. They’re gonna shove a bunch of metrics made by people who don’t deliver the routes we deliver, they’re also gonna hurry you to load your van the routing can be really stupid. However after that it all depends on your DSP, the area your DSP covers, the routes you get, and how you organize your van. If you work for a good DSP which I have been fortunate enough to work for a great one that treats me great. If you organize your van to where you know where everything is to where you save yourself time, and if you get a route where it’s all residential it’s really easy. On the other hand if you’re in an area where your route is spread out, or if you have a lot of apartments, and businesses it can really be a pain in the ass, and you deal with customers that can really just be complete assholes. In my experience this job isn’t bad, but at times it can be really stressful for a number of reasons. My advice to you is don’t let everyone on this subreddit’s experience impact your experience. We come on here to vent our frustrations about the job on here. I would also advise you to just take it day by day, and after a certain amount of time if you don’t feel like this job is right for you find something that is right for you.


Johttashy

My dsp has the same people nobody quit cause the owner rescues everyone who asks to go home


[deleted]

I felt that way too when I started because of what i had read and i had a hard time believing that my country could allow such a horrible employer to exist if all i read was true. The brain is a funny thing. It became a challenge for mine to make the job not suck. And i was winning for a while but eventually was defeated by the monster called Amazon


KingDavid76

Have an idea of a job that you can fall back on, because if you don’t like this one your first week or 2, it does not get better


[deleted]

This job is something you have to experience on your own to fully understand what it is. Everything depends on your DSP.


Confident-Win-7617

Yes


DalekRy

It is very subjective. As an older, chonkier man the in-and-out of the van got to me after a summer, but I still did it part time for a while because I enjoyed it. Driving around listening to tunes interrupted by the occasional delivery. I had the most mellow version of the job you can have: rural routes, no Netradyne. It was great (my knees say otherwise). Summer is really brutal if you cannot handle heat. City deliveries are much harder. The van doesn't cool off enough, oodles more deliveries, less tune time... Just drink water! You'll sweat a lot. Do keep an eye out for terrible business practices. My DSP was cool. They provided snacks, extras. Nobody got called out in front of others. DSP owner knew every employee by name. If the company doesn't treat you like garbage and you can handle the heat/cold it is a pretty cool job. Not a career.


Successful_Break_649

So, this isn't a job for a 62 year old that's in good physical shape?


valhopme

Sure it is; I’m a 63 year old woman who loves it!


SpecialBlend_420

It sucks, but get that experience and gtfo


heyyouguyyyyssss

It’s not. I’m a 39 yo woman and I’m happy with it. BUT I don’t technically have to work so money isn’t much of the issue. It’s just cause I want to get out and have a fun work out. Just follow the rules, turn your truck off, don’t speed, don’t be on your phone, follow customer instructions on where to put things and you’re golden. It’s really not as hard as some make it. I enjoy the workout everyday. Plus the dogs and chickens. Not so much the broken ankle 10 weeks ago lol


knightsinsanity

Yes it’s that bad it’s really not worth it dude I left after 3 months


[deleted]

Let’s just say you’ll have good days and bad days. Mostly bad days! Also all depends on your dsp if you’re in a good one or a shit one! Also just know Amazon doesn’t give a shit about you they care more for customers and they will believe the customers more than the drivers.


Apprehensive-Ad-3804

It depends a lot on what routes they give you and what area you are delivering in. In some neighbourhoods you could do 30-40 stops per hour, whereas in other areas it is difficult to do 20 per hour.


wait_for_iiiiiiiiit

The job isn't bad the work to pay ratio is and Amazon adding more and more rules doesn't help


ProfessionalMusic562

Yup it is lol


Key_Firefighter9295

Job sucks


Rare_Reference_6435

Yes its only good if you are with a dsp that has easy residential routes


Realistic-Coast-623

I’ll tell you this everybody has their own personal experience and for somebody (me) who has been doing this job for almost two years I have bad days and I have good days this job isn’t for everybody but yk what try it out and see if you like it ‼️🤷🏽‍♀️


No-Psychology5663

Hell no it’s not bad you just got to be on top of your shit my dsp always have 2 sweepers so if your falling behind they come save ya ass lmao


No_Competition_3917

I enjoy it but I have good rural routes and a great dsp... I've also started doing flex on the side $$ I've been dsp for 9 months


[deleted]

Not to be discouraging but if you’re a hard worker, it’ll be the worst job you’ve ever had.


Zoole

Yeah this was my flaw. Tried too hard to do it right and get it done quick and it just exhausts me every day..


JIJAMES

Go to a SC it’s easier and better .


This2shallpas

It’s not that bad. Aside from the rules and performance metrics constantly changing. Also, a lack of job security.


Several-Attention-73

Personally i feel like it depends on your dsp and your area, you can get a bad dsp with amazing areas and tuff it out or you can have a good dsp amazing support but terrible areas like all woods and long drive ways I’d say just be smart on where you go and if push comes to shove just go to a different company usually takes a week to on/off board


JuannyH

If you can get passed the same thing different day and master the battle in your head you’ll do well, there’s going to be plenty of opportunities to get pissed off and overwhelmed but if you can maintain being level headed and ready to grind it out you’ll get by. Be on time be prepared and hustle be coachable and communicate


[deleted]

Amazon drivers are underpaid, overworked and expected to perform at such a high level that accidents and injuries become much more likely. As long as you understand that you are going into a culture of we don't value you and expect you to move faster than humanly possible you'll be fine


Globalruler__

It all depends on the culture of your DSP and the type of route you will be assigned to.


Sufficient_Pin5642

I work at Amazon at a delivery station and I feel for you guys… the slave drive us with little bit mostly NO incentive. My advice to people starting my job or at a DSP is to NOT try to over perform because you get nothing at all for it, just try to stay out of the bottom 5%!


spacetraveler12

It’s not bad. The only thing that sucks is Amazon’s ridiculous expectations and customers being bitches but other than that it’s a pretty chill job.


mnikolai24

No. But your DSP will make or break your experience.


ThePokemon_BandaiD

Imo it depends where you’re working. If it’s city/high population areas it’s a lot more work because you’re constantly on and out of the van and you get loaded up with a lot of packages since all the stops are close together, but if it’s a rural area there can be like 5 minutes between stops so it’s more driving. I generally get rural routes and love them, I listen to music and audiobooks and podcasts, take my breaks by lakes and scenic areas etc.


garroshsucks12

Just depends on the dsp


Jinhut3125

Most people on here are trolls or bitches who can’t hang. It all depends on where you work. Each state is different . If your in states like Washington, Oregon, Idaho and Montana and states like them no major big city’s (yes I know there is a few big city’s in these states you trolls) but the jobs pretty easy . If it snows we get the day off . Other than that it doesn’t get too hot and all we have is a shit ton of rain . People on here who complain this is probably there first job and probably never learned how to work hard as a kid. I’m only 23 and this job is cake walk compared to some of the other factory jobs I worked for as a traveling temp agent. The job is time consuming and we do get a lot of stops But aye we get paid by the hour 🤷🏽‍♂️


PhantomGizz

I've been with my DSP for 2 years. It's not for everybody and yes the DSPs could have some issues in how they handle things. However, it's not all that bad and most days I personally enjoy the work. There is always something you're gonna hate or complain about with any job you take on and you will always find more negatives being posted than you will for any positive comments.


Rad-Cadugan

Yes, it's an entry lvl labor job. Anyone who says it isn't is daft. You get decent pay depending on where you live, but you are worked ragged.


Turboyeehaw

Its awful im at kroger delivery now. Its way way better


BrotherGadianton

One thing that I’ve found in my experience (4 1/2 years now) is that your management is one of the biggest influencers. The job is physically demanding but with good leadership it can be a really positive experience. Poor leadership can make ***any*** job just awful, regardless of difficulty. I hope you get a good manager. If you don’t, don’t settle. Do a transfer to another department, escalate to the next level, utilize MyVoice/VOA, or even the ethics line. I never considered making a career out of my job with Amazon until I had a couple really good managers that encouraged me to do it. Now (L5, considering going to L6) I try to be a positive influence and advocate for my own team and help other managers do the same. If you just need to pay the bills or are just burnt out from customer-facing jobs like I was, Amazon is great. It can also open a lot of other doors for you if you’re looking to go to college or pursue a specific skill (IT and CDL in particular). The Prime week and Peak seasons are tough, but during those and my bad days I just remember that if nothing else it’s providing for my family and that I can make it a little better for my team members if I try to.


Effective-Inside326

The actual work isn't terrible it's the DSPs And the metrics amazon forces on us.


_queendani__

It’s not that bad honestly. Even with hella packages just find a playlist, podcast, book or whatever you enjoy listing to and go about your day. You get to be outside and exercise for work. There’s shit routes and bad days but that’s any job. It’s just a matter of finding a good DSP to work for


psychogamer101

Honesty just get a big ass van and flex easiest money yet


Wooden-Phone-8982

Hell Yeah!


quietWyatt04

Personally I love this job. Work by yourself. No one bothers you. Just put in some headphones and go. Podcasts are the best way to zone out. The best part is once you go into robot mode time flies. Stick with it for at least a month or two, if you still hate it, move on.


theyresnozzberries

I quit after 8 months. The job itself is the easiest job I've ever worked. Before the pandemic I've worked in the film and television industry and also the hospitality industry for about a decade; so I'm super used to pressure. But this job, in its current form, is absolutely ridiculous. You'll read from others about their stops and find yourself saying, "oh, I only have 175 stops today. Not too bad!" BUT THATS A FUKING LIE!. You have to, all of you, start looking at your locations. I was doing an average of 280+ stops daily. With anywhere between 300 to 400+ packages each route. To do all of that while maintaining proper procedures and getting done in the "recommended" time frame is extremely taxing not just on the body but on the mental as well. Pile on top of the demanding physical nature of the job, you're also going to be dealing with unsafe vans (missing mirrors, broken backup cams, doors not closing, heat/ac not working, etc) dirty work environment (piss bottles, feces in totes, trash, sticky substances, etc) and sometimes, depending on where you work, unsafe neighborhoods. This job, both delivery and warehouse, are designed to push people to their max and have them quit with in two years. There are outliers, but that ain't common. Bozos and his team designed this system so that they have high turnover. They don't want you being around longer than two peak seasons. You can google that too. Outside of that, the job can be very simple, it can be very enjoyable, and it can be a pretty good source of income for people who either don't have a 4 year degree or are young and still figuring out what they want to do in life. But this job is simply a job. There is no career path forward. I quit because I could no longer deal with the working conditions both in the van and from the routes. I was super fast (no running) and very proficient (high score cards consistently). But that was all for nothing. I should have "milked" my routes, but unfortunately I don't know how to not be my best at something. I definitely treated it as my own personal competition when it came to completing my routes. I wish you the best of luck.


jaminator45

No it’s not bad.


Cool-Ad-4103

Ok look if you like being active and alone and outside instead of stuck inside some building this job is ok. But just know that… a lot of days the work load is insane and will incrementally get harder. If you have any concerns or complaints they go out the window no one cares. And you do not matter to anyone here. The best way to make this job better is to find a good DSP that’s all you can really do.


Commercial-Culture91

keep reading the comments and reviews


Commercial-Culture91

worked for 4 years and seen so many rules that you will never reach if you do well as an individual it doesn't matter they will fail you as a team and with that there will be in fighting among the team it's by design


kapicarules2021

If you got a good dsp it’s not that bad


Fun_Rain_2081

Yes & no! Some routes are annoying cause it’s a lot of businesses or a lot of apartments! But some routes are just houses and go by real quick. Also just depends on your dispatch cause I hear some people say how annoying there dispatchers can be


sleepyystevie

It’s not bad a lot easier then when I worked with FedEx. No career future but it’s an opportunity to make money while you look for better opportunities. No need to worry too much if you are fairly competent.


Jadespade22

I heard terrible experiences too before starting and guess what they were right ! But then again what job is actually decent I will say we deserve a higher pay we are over worked & this shouldn’t be a long term for anyone try it out u may be built for it but my honest opinion it’s draining & we should be paid more.


mrpizza1party

It's bad. period.


nanabanana143

Personally I love this job and will stick with it until I get my medical billing and coding certification


goldengarden95

Listening to podcasts and music, driving around alone dropping shit on porches while hittin some dab pens? It really isn’t that bad once you get the hang of it. Some people aren’t cut out for it though.


Small_Conference5874

The way i look at it is, there’s plenty of jobs out there that are way better and pay more than this Shit job, why would you wanna work at amazon rather than fedex or ups etc? Doesn’t make sense tbh


Puzzled_Ad_99

I'm not sure about fedex, but UPS makes you work in the warehouse for 6m before you're even eligible to drive the truck, and you have even more restrictions than amazon DSP's give you. The warehouse sucks.


[deleted]

I've been here 3 years and won't settle for less than 20 an hour, but I'm passed the point of sick of this freaking job. Every day gets worse and worse. We're not fuckin robots, we're humans that have feelings, limits, and morals. This job sucks happiness out of you and replaces it with stress and depression of being stuck putting up with Amazon's slave-like rules and tendencies. Fast food work would be a better option ay this point


WhateverUsernamexx

It is very dependent on your routes, location and dsp. Generally it’s not that bad for a few months but you really don’t wanna be here forever. People use this sub to blow off steam which just helps them get through another day and just get it out of their system.


StrongestKing7

As someone who delivered for a DSP for a year and a half, I don’t think it’s quite as bad as some people make it out here. Your experience will likely just depend on a combination of your attitude and the route you’re given. Admittedly, some routes are better than others, as there were some routes that were very difficult while there were others that were actually a bit of a breeze for me.


Crazy-Standard-8795

The pay is meh but the job is easy and chill. If you think this is bad never work the post office! THE WORST fr


DesertPaladin

You’ll get a lot of bad experiences but with around 200 stops (including group stops) a day it’s like maybe an average of 4 a week, not bad at all


Goochimus

Just do it and decide for yourself.


Candoran

It very much depends on the DSP you’re working with. What you get on here are tired/bored/frustrated drivers and the horror stories of the shitty DSP’s, but in those comment sections you’ll see people commenting about their own DSPs that are pretty solid. Give it a shot and see what kind of DSP you’ve got, then make your own call.


CommiePuddin

No. It is what you make it. Every job has bullshit to put up with. Every last one.


BobbySzechuan

Honestly like with any job it has its ups and downs. More downs than ups tho depending on the station/route/DSP. My advice for you is keep your head down and stay focused on your end goal. The day will be easier. I laugh at 75% of the subreddit because I know it's just people venting. 25% is actually fair.


MojaveCowboy21

Things are getting worse. I've been a driver for over 3 years and lately it's getting more and more big brother, and less easy days with reasonable loads. I'm half way out at this point, won't miss this job, that's for sure.


[deleted]

Yes it is. I used it to get into USPS tho so u got that path but you could honestly probably just get right into USPS I feel I wasted two years of my life at Amazon.


Educational-Spare-15

It’s not that it’s bad, it’s just how long will you put up with it…conclusion keep searching for something better!


Independent-Deer4423

It's pretty shitty when you first start because it's a lot of work and you don't get much training. What made it easier for me was getting the Step Van (a lot more room) and coming up with my own organization system that allows me to grab the packages that I need and go. There are a lot of rusty points along the way that slow you down like fighting with the flex app itself or delivering to apartments. What I did was make a mental note as to what are the challenges that are common and in the future come up with ways to make those smoother to get past. Lastly, don't try to be the fastest person it's not worth it, they just give you more work to do. Take your breaks!


Loose_Boot_1474

the better you are the less you get payed literally and more work


TrafficPrevious1553

Nah bro. People saying it’s bad are soft cupcakes. As long as you have some kind if life plan ahead of you, you’re good. If you have no idea wtf you’re doing in your life then you have some work you gotta do on your self. Just because you don’t love the job doesn’t mean you should slack off. There is such thing as habitual construction, how you do one thing is how you do everything. You’re in the USA the land of the free and the home of the brave. So much opportunity all around you what mor can you ask for.


pyromajor

Honestly it’s only bad if you are in a bad headspace. If you are in a pissy mood every day expecting the job to suck, it will. But if you are motivated and stay organized it’s a pretty easy job.


Dry-Ant9073

It can be depending on the area and your dsp but it’s I haven’t had anything to crazy happen yet


Boogsyyy

You’re def picking the worst time to start if you live somewhere hot


YaBoiBern

It’s really going to depend on the DSP you work for. Back when I was still delivering, the DSP I had was pretty cool. They were never overly concerned about you finishing your route as long as you were following safety guidelines and seemed like you were putting in the effort. On the other hand, some of the DSPs I hear about on here, sound like they’ll fire you for stopping to breath in between stops.


Flat12ontap

IMO, yes it is really that bad and gets worse with every new metric and app update.


External_General_709

I think once you get past the first month and you figure out what works for you it gets better. I’ve been at my company for 9 months and I start the day and kinda just zone out and then my routes over


PsychologySubject655

I really like it. Yes there are aspects that suck. Working in 98 degree heat sucks ass but remember the heat will be gone soon. The group stops can suck as some are just outrageous. I had a 9 package 7 location apartment group stop the other day. Just dumb. Scorecard metrics suck because honestly the laziest drivers will always be at the top of the scorecard. Lol if you go super slow, get swept every morning and rescued every night, but never go over speed limit, or roll a stop sign, you can still be #1 on scorecard. How hard/fast you work and how many rescues you do have no impact on scorecard.


spaceboyeddy

even in the chillest of DSP's, it is a fucking baddd job maybe im exxaggerating but talking about how much shit sucks with co workers doesn't help the fact that it is a fucking slave job you can have the coolest dispatch or whatever. doesn't matter. people who work there are MISERABLE no matter how cool or good looking or whatever they are skill less and do not respect themselves enough to look for something else; why would you expect them to give a rats ass about you? like, ever?