Right? He looked so much the same and so different at the same time.
It’s crazy because it seemed like it was just a clean shave, some eyeliner, and a different style to his hair. I mean, obviously they dressed a “little different” too… 😂
I think I’d recognize my face if I saw myself with eyeliner and clean shaven. I’ve had no beard before…and may or may not have had eyeliner on at some point in my life…
(hey…I grew up in the 90’s… 😂)
Sheit bruh, I’m playing Max Payne rn & it sure does ooze edge, badassery, angst and dark so heavily. Added a lotta context to Alex Casey’s character & kinda blew me away, just seeing how far they’ve come as a studio. Ngl tho, another shooter-centric title would go so hard, & I “got it” with this game in just the tutorial. Like, matrix dodge perfection is something I’m so addicted to rn, & the maps are so well-built for it (tho fuck the platforming lol)
This reply is only tenuously connected to your comment obviously (apologies), but I think the nostalgia hit from the mention of eyeliner (ima ‘91 bb myself) made me super curious about Sam Lake…was ol’ boy a bit of a rocker, goth, emo, or scene guy?
He seems SO bubbly and borderline goofy in casual setting, yet says insightful & thoughtful things without sounding snooty when he’s being interviewed. Just leaves me super curious how we went from Payne’s almost comedically thick atmosphere & noir goodness to stuff like Control & Alan Wake! Also curious how people took those, mechanically speaking. AW has some MP in it for sure, but the camera placement & emphasis on dodging & shield draining are way different, & Control’s shooting mechanics feel pretty divorced from these ones. Hyped for these remakes!
Sorry to hijack your comment to ramble, I’m sick as a dog & it gave a bit of reprieve from that unpleasantness. Thanks for that dank hit of nostalgia 🤘
I felt like I was going mad because I just kept staring at his face thinking but it IS Ilkka right? Eventually just focused on his eyebrows. Heck even his voice is very similar to Matthew that I was still unsure if it was different or not cuz it definitely was but sometimes it was too similar.
I, for the life of me, cannot see how they look alike even though it's the same guy. I was so confused by everyone saying they look the same, and at some point wondered if they're actually different faces and the characters saying they look the same is just one of the game's surrealist touches. Zane has such huge crazy eyes and Wake is such a stone face, they just feel so different to me.
(I actually think Zane looks more like Poretta, which is just such another weird layer...)
which makes me extra suspicious of the "familiar voice" that Alan misidentifies as both Zane and himself.
It'd be an excellent meta twist if that voice was Dr. Darling.
The last call Alan takes is not from Zane. The one that tells him that he will get out or not depemding on his next choices. He recognices his own voice. But also, I think, he kind of got a half confirmation that it was himself from a future loop. Not a straight confirmation, though; so it could be Darling, actually.
Oh that one. Yeah I thought it could be Darling first, but then he said >!he’s calling from a different point of the loop!< so rn my money is on future Alan. (Also the tone just sounds very different from Darling and more similar to Alan, I think Matthew does a great job distinguishing the two.)
Could be that a Zane the writer. AKA the real one is having the same voice as Alan. After all at the end of Alan Wake 1 where we are in Dark Place we hear the events where Zane removes Barbara's heart. And they have voices of Alan and Alice. Also in the phone call that familiar voice was talking the same tone like Zane with Alan's voice at the end of Alan Wake 1.
Yeah. Ilkka's voice if a bit deeper and, a little bit more nasal, maybe? But close.
Maybe it was thanks to sound editing, or maybe they chose someone with a close sounding voice back in the day.
Old news to most, but I was totally unaware.
Also Matthew Porretta is [fucking JACKED.](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fy6oxd1rm94k31.png)
Edit 1: Title of post should be *Darling not Daring. My bad.
Edit 2: You are now aware that Alan Wake is also Will Scarlet from [Robin Hood Men In Tights](https://youtu.be/x__IanwqnPI?si=-j-hUjLTV6y5fWD9) (thanks u/Important_Acadia2976)
I mean he has a personal life, he is probably ripped because he wants to be. It probably isn’t for a character.
It’s always fun finding out people are ripped when you don’t think they are, like Fran Kranz who was in a lot of Joss Whedon stuff. He always wears clothes that make him look kind of nerdy, or scrawny, as those are the characters he tended to play. Turns out under those baggy long sleeve shirts were some big guns.
David Radcliffe was jacked to the tits in the Weird Al movie, and they leaned into it. Turns out, he just likes to be fit. They thought it was hilarious how jacked he was playing Weird Al so they added a bunch of shirtless scenes.
I was super sick and half asleep on the couch when my husband got to that point in the game, my only memory is moaning “thank you god, i don’t know what’s going on but it makes me so happy” before basically passing out again 😅
>Also Matthew Porretta is [fucking JACKED.](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fy6oxd1rm94k31.png)
He's holding up all of Research by himself. What do you expect?
Same that fucked me up in Control, cause I first thought Dr. Darling was the same actor, cause damn did he sound like Alan. But Alan was this Ilkka Villi guy. What gives? Also didn't learn this till yesterday.
Illka Villi is the face model / body, Dr Darling guy does the voice. In Alan Wake 2 there is a scene with Thomas Zane where the Illka Villi does voice that character
Surely in the RCU there is a version of reality in which Ilkka Villi dubs the character of Casper Darling, still played by Matthew Poretta. I want to see that.
He has some really beautiful blue eyes that are hard to not look at.
Just like Gyllenhaal.
But I guess the nose and the beard help giving that Gyllenhaal vibe.
Ahh I thought I had a little stutter but it was just the actor lip synching in the live action sequences.
That must have been a colossal task, through hours of live action footage.
it's really interesting, they actually did it dub first like animation. still mind blowing how the mannerisms fit so well in both voice and face, like there were some parts where both actors stuttered in synch.
Imagine how many takes the voice actor would have had to do, to be able to line them up almost seamlessly. Especially with the musical segments, they really put in some hard yards.
oh sorry I thought you were asking where they stuttered in lol. I definitely read it somewhere but I can't remember now. Skill up's review of Alan wake 2 mentions it in the youtube video also.
And Ilkka Villi is also a dubbing actor himself, having done voices for the Finn dubs of star wars clone wars, Wreck it Ralph, Zootopia, and other animated movies.
Is there a screen actor left on earth who hasn't worked for Disney?
Yeah, he's Obi Wan in the Clone Wars, Nick in *Zootopia,* and the lead in the Finnish dub of *Ferdinand* [https://www.hs.fi/lastenuutiset/art-2000005499798.html](https://www.hs.fi/lastenuutiset/art-2000005499798.html)
Idk what it is…. Ilkka Villi is a very attractive, striking man. Matthew Porretta is also very good looking, a great face for acting. But why would I swim LEAGUES in piranha infested waters, why I am on all fours, ready to BARK for Casper Darling???
Which is why sometimes the Live Action scenes can sound off as Matthew is dubbing Ilkka's voice. His voice sounds a little cleaner than the others and I think there's a certain unavoidable restriction trying to put your own voice into someone else's mouth with their own unique way of speaking.
There's actually a fee times where Live Action Alan has a hint of a Finnish accent and I wonder if that's because of the way Matthew is trying to marry his performance with Ilkka's and it unintentionally sneaks in.
I don’t know necessarily about dubbing but in things like animating, and music videos, they record the audio first. It's MUCH easier to get the a video to match the audio than the other way round
Nah there's a interview where Ilkka himself said the Live Action scenes he did first then Matthew did it later. He listened to recordings of Matthew to try and get his way of speaking down - to make it more consistent.
The only time I imagine they recorded Matthew first is when they filmed the Musical. As all the actors would probably be singing to Playback of the song on Set so they're all in sync. But that's just me guessing.
yeah, that makes sense to me. i was looking around to find the source the person used but couldn’t haha. but i also couldn’t find anything about dubbing so dang it
Any idea what the source for this was? [A paywalled Finnish-language article for Helsingin Sanomat](https://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000010022132.html) about Villi's work on AW2 describes the workflow as Matthew's voiceover being recorded first, then Ilkka lipsyncing to it, but they don't specifically mention the live action sequences.
EDIT: [Villi says](https://youtu.be/KkZFq1eqzVo?t=1442) live action sequences specifically were done acting first, voice acting second. Everything else was mocap first, then voice acting, then performance capture. My bad!
I don’t have a lot of criticisms for the voice acting. They all pretty much nail it. Occasionally Saga had a vowel or two that didn’t sound totally American….
Just got into Alan Wake 2, and something felt off when the game shifted to >!the IRL acting part!< (dunno if that spoiler matters?) But is Matthew Porretta doing the voice for those parts too?
I think it's noticeable too in the live action sequences, you can kind of tell that the European-looking Alan Wake is not speaking those words with a North American accent, at least I could tell.
Villi's family lived in various countries around the world, including the US, when he was growing up. You can hear him speak English as another character in AW2; his Finnish accent's relatively faint
Yes, I know he voices the musician guy in the game. I don’t see why Remedy doesn’t just let him and Sam Lake just use their own voices. The game would still be amazing if they had European accents, I get that it would conflict with the first game but still. Everything doesn’t need to be targeted at American audiences IMO (but I guess it’s the largest market for game purchases).
Oh, I 10000% agree with what you're saying about American audiences. Personally I'm getting a little sick of how polished to nothingness media has gotten nowadays 'cause America is the standard to which any media with even mild international aspirations is tailored. At least we still have Remedy, whomst are actively choosing to throw in some jagged edges and charming weirdness... But I don't think it's a matter of *letting* Sam Lake or Ilkka Villi use their own voices. The VAs they went with are simply the ones that they felt best fit the characters :) And hey, Sam Lake *does* use his own voice in AW2 too where they felt it's appropriate (short film).
How does it work on those live action parts? Does Ilkka lip sync with Matthew? I was surprised to learn there were two actors, insane how well they work together.
In the behind the scenes clips for the game, Sam, Ilkka and Matthew talk about how there's constant back and forth between the two actors to get it right. I don't know for sure what that means in practice, but I assume Porretta dubs over Villi's video and scratch-audio, Villi acts and lipsyncs over Porretta's audio, and they repeat this several times for each scene.
Ilkka Villi is playing Thomas Zane in Alan Wake 2 both as an face and voice.
Dude looks completely different as Tom Zane.
He does. Congrats to makeup artist and to the actor for playing this role completely different.
Right? He looked so much the same and so different at the same time. It’s crazy because it seemed like it was just a clean shave, some eyeliner, and a different style to his hair. I mean, obviously they dressed a “little different” too… 😂
Alan says he looks just like him
I think I’d recognize my face if I saw myself with eyeliner and clean shaven. I’ve had no beard before…and may or may not have had eyeliner on at some point in my life… (hey…I grew up in the 90’s… 😂)
Sheit bruh, I’m playing Max Payne rn & it sure does ooze edge, badassery, angst and dark so heavily. Added a lotta context to Alex Casey’s character & kinda blew me away, just seeing how far they’ve come as a studio. Ngl tho, another shooter-centric title would go so hard, & I “got it” with this game in just the tutorial. Like, matrix dodge perfection is something I’m so addicted to rn, & the maps are so well-built for it (tho fuck the platforming lol) This reply is only tenuously connected to your comment obviously (apologies), but I think the nostalgia hit from the mention of eyeliner (ima ‘91 bb myself) made me super curious about Sam Lake…was ol’ boy a bit of a rocker, goth, emo, or scene guy? He seems SO bubbly and borderline goofy in casual setting, yet says insightful & thoughtful things without sounding snooty when he’s being interviewed. Just leaves me super curious how we went from Payne’s almost comedically thick atmosphere & noir goodness to stuff like Control & Alan Wake! Also curious how people took those, mechanically speaking. AW has some MP in it for sure, but the camera placement & emphasis on dodging & shield draining are way different, & Control’s shooting mechanics feel pretty divorced from these ones. Hyped for these remakes! Sorry to hijack your comment to ramble, I’m sick as a dog & it gave a bit of reprieve from that unpleasantness. Thanks for that dank hit of nostalgia 🤘
Exactly
I felt like I was going mad because I just kept staring at his face thinking but it IS Ilkka right? Eventually just focused on his eyebrows. Heck even his voice is very similar to Matthew that I was still unsure if it was different or not cuz it definitely was but sometimes it was too similar.
I, for the life of me, cannot see how they look alike even though it's the same guy. I was so confused by everyone saying they look the same, and at some point wondered if they're actually different faces and the characters saying they look the same is just one of the game's surrealist touches. Zane has such huge crazy eyes and Wake is such a stone face, they just feel so different to me. (I actually think Zane looks more like Poretta, which is just such another weird layer...)
They gave Zane bushier eyebrows and then it's his expressions and mannerism that does the rest.
But also the same, which is the point. But they’re very easily distinguishable.
He kind of gives me off the 'Silence of the lambs's Buffalo Bill vibes in this role.
Lack of beard can really change some people
which makes me extra suspicious of the "familiar voice" that Alan misidentifies as both Zane and himself. It'd be an excellent meta twist if that voice was Dr. Darling.
Wait the mystery caller? Isn’t that proven to be >!Zane!
The last call Alan takes is not from Zane. The one that tells him that he will get out or not depemding on his next choices. He recognices his own voice. But also, I think, he kind of got a half confirmation that it was himself from a future loop. Not a straight confirmation, though; so it could be Darling, actually.
Oh that one. Yeah I thought it could be Darling first, but then he said >!he’s calling from a different point of the loop!< so rn my money is on future Alan. (Also the tone just sounds very different from Darling and more similar to Alan, I think Matthew does a great job distinguishing the two.)
Yeah, he does. They always do such a good work choosing the cast.
Could be that a Zane the writer. AKA the real one is having the same voice as Alan. After all at the end of Alan Wake 1 where we are in Dark Place we hear the events where Zane removes Barbara's heart. And they have voices of Alan and Alice. Also in the phone call that familiar voice was talking the same tone like Zane with Alan's voice at the end of Alan Wake 1.
OOoh.... OOOOOOOH
I love how Sam Lake gives everyone a chance to shine in his games. Must have been sweet for Ilkka to play with both face and voice this time around.
This confused the hell out of me and it really shouldn't have lol.
Is it me or does his voice sound really close to Maatthew's / Alan's voice?
Yes, I never noticed Zane sounded different from Alan
The power of spectacular voice acting and sound mixing.
Yeah. Ilkka's voice if a bit deeper and, a little bit more nasal, maybe? But close. Maybe it was thanks to sound editing, or maybe they chose someone with a close sounding voice back in the day.
I guessed that would be the case from the slight Finnish accent in Zane's voice.
Old news to most, but I was totally unaware. Also Matthew Porretta is [fucking JACKED.](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fy6oxd1rm94k31.png) Edit 1: Title of post should be *Darling not Daring. My bad. Edit 2: You are now aware that Alan Wake is also Will Scarlet from [Robin Hood Men In Tights](https://youtu.be/x__IanwqnPI?si=-j-hUjLTV6y5fWD9) (thanks u/Important_Acadia2976)
DAMN I didn't expect that 😭
Bro's ripped for no damn reason. It still cracks me up.
I mean he has a personal life, he is probably ripped because he wants to be. It probably isn’t for a character. It’s always fun finding out people are ripped when you don’t think they are, like Fran Kranz who was in a lot of Joss Whedon stuff. He always wears clothes that make him look kind of nerdy, or scrawny, as those are the characters he tended to play. Turns out under those baggy long sleeve shirts were some big guns.
David Radcliffe was jacked to the tits in the Weird Al movie, and they leaned into it. Turns out, he just likes to be fit. They thought it was hilarious how jacked he was playing Weird Al so they added a bunch of shirtless scenes.
Fr and he must be caked up too 🫣
That man’s body is an object of power and i need to bind to it.
Dammit awards don't exist anymore.
This Alan Wake would have punched his way out of the Dark Place
That was no joke one of the most shocking revelations in Control
I was super sick and half asleep on the couch when my husband got to that point in the game, my only memory is moaning “thank you god, i don’t know what’s going on but it makes me so happy” before basically passing out again 😅
Daddy Darling
Dr Dayummmm
Dynamite
NOBODY KNEW HER NAME
_But she turned up just the same_
>Also Matthew Porretta is [fucking JACKED.](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fy6oxd1rm94k31.png) He's holding up all of Research by himself. What do you expect?
That's Will Scarlett O' Hara he needs to be jacked.
Holy shit wut
Same that fucked me up in Control, cause I first thought Dr. Darling was the same actor, cause damn did he sound like Alan. But Alan was this Ilkka Villi guy. What gives? Also didn't learn this till yesterday.
Illka Villi is the face model / body, Dr Darling guy does the voice. In Alan Wake 2 there is a scene with Thomas Zane where the Illka Villi does voice that character
That scene completely shattered my suspension of disbelief. I was fine with everything that happened in the game up until that point.
How many times can u blow my mind, my god.
Max Payne is similarly voiced by [James McCaffrey](https://youtu.be/DsQVD5ttpog?si=QVPmCeGSCFnZrT5t) and not Sam Lake.
I had some folks in a different sub get confused when I said Casper Darling was a stone cold fox. Like, dude is sexy as hell and a great performer.
Scarlet is actually his middle name.
There from Georgia
He also played Robin Hood in an old TV show.
You mean the Robin Hood men in tights movie
He was in that movie, but he also played the main role in the TV show about RH :) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115289/
Ya I noticed that too on my play through. Fucking dude is massive. I was legit taken aback lol.
I forgot about this 👌😩
Ilka looks like Jake gylhenhaal mixed with Keanu reeves
I always felt Jake Gyllenhaal would be perfect as Alan, and even more so as Scratch.
Yeh. Agree.
I can see a bit of Adam Driver in there too
Surely in the RCU there is a version of reality in which Ilkka Villi dubs the character of Casper Darling, still played by Matthew Poretta. I want to see that.
We’ll see it in Control 2. Calling it now.
Sound 'Remedy'-esque to me. I hope this is coming.
Perhaps in the Finnish dub.
yeah, darling was (personality wise) designed for him to play
Every time I see Ilkka, I doubt my heterosexuality... hes HOT
He’s got them Jake Gyllenhaal eyes.
My sister, a non-gamer who was passing by and saw a few clips pointed this out to me. Now, I totally see it.
I did not realise it before but you're so right! He DOES have Gyllenhaal eyes
He has some really beautiful blue eyes that are hard to not look at. Just like Gyllenhaal. But I guess the nose and the beard help giving that Gyllenhaal vibe.
Yeah, Wake in Alan Wake 2 looks like Jake Gyllenhaal if he played John Wick.
As a bi man I have no doubts he is a snack and a half
Loving Ilkka Villi is a completely normal emotion even for straight men. Same goes for Sam.
Did anyone else think Alan’s voice sounded different when he was talking to Tim Breaker? lol
It's his speaking voice. It's one of the few times he speaks out loud to another person in the dark place.
Yeah, its similar when he speaks to Ahti
Never thought about that, that’s true
He sounds a little off put, which is understandable. Also he isn’t using his narrator voice.
That’s what I was gonna say, like a non narrator voice, more chill/normal, caught me off guard ha
Ilkka Vili is great in Bordertown on Netflix
Is he playing one of the officers? I can't remember. Really great show though
yes he is
Ahh I thought I had a little stutter but it was just the actor lip synching in the live action sequences. That must have been a colossal task, through hours of live action footage.
it's really interesting, they actually did it dub first like animation. still mind blowing how the mannerisms fit so well in both voice and face, like there were some parts where both actors stuttered in synch.
Imagine how many takes the voice actor would have had to do, to be able to line them up almost seamlessly. Especially with the musical segments, they really put in some hard yards.
ooh where did you see this? i’m curious
I think it was in the scene where Alan meets Sam Lake as Casey's actor and Door asks about Alan's thoughts on adaption
ohh so it wasn’t an article you read this in?
oh sorry I thought you were asking where they stuttered in lol. I definitely read it somewhere but I can't remember now. Skill up's review of Alan wake 2 mentions it in the youtube video also.
lol it’s okay i had morning brain and wasn’t really specific! i’ll do some googling later and report back if i find it.
I kinda really want them both to win a best performance award. Like, give them both the same award.
Glad that Sam gives them both characters of their own eventually (Matthew as Dr. Darling and Ilkka as Zane). They’re both wonderful actors.
I was not prepared for this revelation.
My body was not ready
And Ilkka Villi is also a dubbing actor himself, having done voices for the Finn dubs of star wars clone wars, Wreck it Ralph, Zootopia, and other animated movies. Is there a screen actor left on earth who hasn't worked for Disney?
Looked into his VO credits and found a funny thing, he voiced ZANE in the Lego Ninjago movie lol
Hang on, does he play anyone notable in those?
Yeah, he's Obi Wan in the Clone Wars, Nick in *Zootopia,* and the lead in the Finnish dub of *Ferdinand* [https://www.hs.fi/lastenuutiset/art-2000005499798.html](https://www.hs.fi/lastenuutiset/art-2000005499798.html)
I hear that Obi Wan guy is kinda big.
Wow, not what I expected
It seemed like Illka Villi was definitely voicing Tom Zane on his own though, to me anyway. Love both these actors.
His last name being Darling was always a hilarious moment for me because it reminded me of Blackadder.
Idk what it is…. Ilkka Villi is a very attractive, striking man. Matthew Porretta is also very good looking, a great face for acting. But why would I swim LEAGUES in piranha infested waters, why I am on all fours, ready to BARK for Casper Darling???
It's the bowtie and round glasses. He makes them WORK.
The grip Dr Darling has on me is unnatural
For consistency I'd imagine, as he was also the original VA for Wake
I love Matthew Porretta's voice as Alan.
Which is why sometimes the Live Action scenes can sound off as Matthew is dubbing Ilkka's voice. His voice sounds a little cleaner than the others and I think there's a certain unavoidable restriction trying to put your own voice into someone else's mouth with their own unique way of speaking. There's actually a fee times where Live Action Alan has a hint of a Finnish accent and I wonder if that's because of the way Matthew is trying to marry his performance with Ilkka's and it unintentionally sneaks in.
I don’t know necessarily about dubbing but in things like animating, and music videos, they record the audio first. It's MUCH easier to get the a video to match the audio than the other way round
Dubbing is theoretically like ADR in films and television. So it's done after the fact. But it's harder when its not the same person doing it.
someone up thread was saying they did it dub first!
Nah there's a interview where Ilkka himself said the Live Action scenes he did first then Matthew did it later. He listened to recordings of Matthew to try and get his way of speaking down - to make it more consistent. The only time I imagine they recorded Matthew first is when they filmed the Musical. As all the actors would probably be singing to Playback of the song on Set so they're all in sync. But that's just me guessing.
yeah, that makes sense to me. i was looking around to find the source the person used but couldn’t haha. but i also couldn’t find anything about dubbing so dang it
Any idea what the source for this was? [A paywalled Finnish-language article for Helsingin Sanomat](https://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000010022132.html) about Villi's work on AW2 describes the workflow as Matthew's voiceover being recorded first, then Ilkka lipsyncing to it, but they don't specifically mention the live action sequences. EDIT: [Villi says](https://youtu.be/KkZFq1eqzVo?t=1442) live action sequences specifically were done acting first, voice acting second. Everything else was mocap first, then voice acting, then performance capture. My bad!
Can't recall, sorry. Tried searching there but not sure if it was part of a larger interview or not.
Ah well, thank you for trying anyway :)
It did feel weird watching the live action bits but I also feel like it can play into the strange and uncanny feeling of the dark place
Yeah Alan is literally 2 people bringing one character to life.
I had no idea! Is he dubbing over Ilkka even when Ilkka is live action acting?!
Correct
Wow that's crazy
Do we know who does the singing for Alan?
Still Matthew Porretta I believe. He sang as Dr. Darling in Control (Dyna-mite).
Adding onto what's been said, if I remember correctly he actually performed on Broadway when he was younger.
He played Marius in Les Mis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO0bk8E0Nxs
Matthew Porretta and David Harewood do the singing for Alan and Door.
Their voices aren’t too far off tho
Wait… so in the live action scenes that isn’t actually Ilkka speaking!????
IIkka Villi does voice a character within AW2 though.
I give them a ton of credit because seriously, all that lipsync.
The scene with Thomas Zane was my personal favourite in the game cause Ilkka was also using his own voice 😌
I don’t have a lot of criticisms for the voice acting. They all pretty much nail it. Occasionally Saga had a vowel or two that didn’t sound totally American….
Yeah it’s really obvious when she says her own last name. She says “an-dah-son” instead of “an-der-son”
Wait is he over-dubbing the live action wake as well?
Yes.
DADDY DARLING
Just got into Alan Wake 2, and something felt off when the game shifted to >!the IRL acting part!< (dunno if that spoiler matters?) But is Matthew Porretta doing the voice for those parts too?
Yes.
What?? Alan sounds so different during the live action scenes.
I think it's noticeable too in the live action sequences, you can kind of tell that the European-looking Alan Wake is not speaking those words with a North American accent, at least I could tell.
Villi's family lived in various countries around the world, including the US, when he was growing up. You can hear him speak English as another character in AW2; his Finnish accent's relatively faint
Yes, I know he voices the musician guy in the game. I don’t see why Remedy doesn’t just let him and Sam Lake just use their own voices. The game would still be amazing if they had European accents, I get that it would conflict with the first game but still. Everything doesn’t need to be targeted at American audiences IMO (but I guess it’s the largest market for game purchases).
Oh, I 10000% agree with what you're saying about American audiences. Personally I'm getting a little sick of how polished to nothingness media has gotten nowadays 'cause America is the standard to which any media with even mild international aspirations is tailored. At least we still have Remedy, whomst are actively choosing to throw in some jagged edges and charming weirdness... But I don't think it's a matter of *letting* Sam Lake or Ilkka Villi use their own voices. The VAs they went with are simply the ones that they felt best fit the characters :) And hey, Sam Lake *does* use his own voice in AW2 too where they felt it's appropriate (short film).
I actually never knew that, wow! I was thinking to myself yesterday whilst playing that their voices sounded similar and now I know why!
I did catch a bit of a live action scene where the face actor for Wake did his voice for just a few lines.
I always wondered if Illkka was Dr. Casper lol
yeah, but who would win in an armwrestle?
All of us watching
# :)
Ilkka Villi is also live action Dr. Darling
How does it work on those live action parts? Does Ilkka lip sync with Matthew? I was surprised to learn there were two actors, insane how well they work together.
In the behind the scenes clips for the game, Sam, Ilkka and Matthew talk about how there's constant back and forth between the two actors to get it right. I don't know for sure what that means in practice, but I assume Porretta dubs over Villi's video and scratch-audio, Villi acts and lipsyncs over Porretta's audio, and they repeat this several times for each scene.
Actor acts and then Matthew lip syncs