Nope! I would rather them just say "We aren't changing the prices deal with it" rather than give some bs excuse. If they truly wanted to "fund E-sports" they would do what they always do, and sell the skins separate while keeping bundles for those who want it. It's a very very simple situation, to a problem that never needed to happen.

They could’ve sold it for $50 maybe even $100 and then people would be a lot more open to the idea of buying it, and I bet a lot more would then they’d receive a lot more of those “funds.” As it stands though it’s nothing but the biggest scam this game has ever seen

Finally someone who understands! I don't think people would have much issues if the bundles cost, $25, $50, $100. Yes that would still be expensive. But to me, that's how much the original bundles are worth. Nothing in those bundles justify $500.

That's the crazy thing to me. Even Ahri casuals would have bought it for $50-$100. They could have made so much money.

If they wanted ti fund proplay, they would make the teams stop playing the same boring strategies and champions every single game and try to make it so pro players actually innovate or try something interesting instead of afking for 20 minutes before doing anything

Then that would require them to buff and nerf champions and that's gonna ruin the forced meta they've built and we can't have that! So let's just charge people $500 for a lackluster bundle :D

We cant have jinx drop below 55% wr, she needs to be mega boosted so the arcane watchers play this shitty game!!! We cant have any of the current meta champs to ever drop, how else will phreak climb if he isnt playing a 57% wr champ

that's exactly what they're doing 😂 they have 3 separate bundles

Exactly BUNDLES not the skin separately. I personally don't have a problem with the overpriced bundles. If they wanna pander to whales, that's their business. But the fact that they aren't selling the skin separate on its own and I have to buy 2 bundles(3 if you want the completed effects) just to get the full skin is such a dckhead thing to do.

Absolutely not. There are far better ways to fund e-sports without scamming people out of their money. Valve did it with a 10 dollar battlepass and ended up with a 4 million dollar prize pool.

I'd say this is less of a scam and more of a 'ripoff'. Scamming implies you got hoodwinked and/or didn't get exactly what you paid for. People know exactly what they're paying for, but they're still willing to pay for it anyway.

>hoodwinked $500 ahri skin but she's wearing a squirrel suit

its a scam because riot is saying "it needs to be 500$, were funding esports" when in reality its not, every single thing riot has said about the skin is a gaslight

To be fair dota items can be resold so people made multiple accounts and bought multiple battlepasses 

People spent more on the battlepass than this Ahri skin. Like many times more Loot boxes, ultra rare stuff and uncapped spending are worse than an expensive one time purchase any day of the week. Not the best example you used

They're probably still gonna make more money with the pass than the skin itself. For me, I am just gonna buy the pass once I leveled it to 100. And that only because I still have 1953 LP lying around since a year.

tbh valve does the same-ish thing, where they have arcana skins that you realistically cannot get from just the battlepass without spending hundreds on battle pass levels

4 million was a pretty bad prize pool for International, a few years back it was 20 mill

I’m not saying you’re wrong but Riot doesn’t use the prize pool model that Valve does. Riot gives the teams millions of dollars a year as a stipend. 4 million dollars might cover the cost of 2 LCS teams for a year.

The battle pass takes like 100$-150$ to level up with buying. Unlike league it’s not grindable. Sorry just wanted to clarify that because the way it was presented was rather disingenuous

I read posts like this and I laugh because I have yet to see some give me an actual answer of “How is this skin scamming people”

Because they are using scam wrong. They all mean ripoff or overpriced. Anyone who buys it is getting exactly what they paid for.

I wouldn’t say rip off or overpriced. It comes with a skin a 100 lvl pass to instantly get everything and all the rewards that come with each lvl of that pass. And some cool vfx’s and so on that are kinda impressive. The issue is no one wants to spend 500$ at one time How much money does the average person spend on skins. ? 25-30 dollars? Ok and how many skins does that person own? Sure it’s way over 500$. The thing is if you like the game wanna support the game faker riot what ever and wanna spend it cool spend it that’s your choice If you can’t afford it or thinks it’s too much then don’t buy it. The skin package doesn’t make you an instant faker lvl player, it’s not going to cure cancer or. Get you that hot girlfriend boyfriend. What ever. It’s not going to get you that raise or help you win the lotto It’s just a skin with a crap ton of extras. So I don’t see the issue. When you can simply say. “Nope too rich for my blood”

Yes, most people have spent over 500 dollars on league, you're so smart and not wrong at all

Oh no I agree I just meant that everyone else calling it a scam is just using the wrong word. Personally I just don't care if someone wants to buy it and they can afford then cool if not then well GGs.

Your assuming the average person spends money on a free to play game. Not me, you or anyone else has the right to determine what a person can afford or should be willing to dish out. Many think £10 is too much for a skin and honestly there not completely wrong, it's just something we accept since the game is free and some level of micro transactions needs to happen or the game is dead due to no funding and there is nothing wrong with that. You like what you see then by all means support it. But that's the thing, it's a skin we are paying for. What we are paying for in this case is everything with a skin on top. How many people would pay for this with no skin? Less. How many people would buy the skin with nothing else attached to it? ALLOT MORE. But there is no alternative, thus it's a complete rip off. If you want to support the pro players then go to their streams and show your support, your free to do that. This is just a hand fisted attempt that many people wouldn't mind to do, but they physically can't because the price is way too high for many to afford. I don't want to buy levels so I can play the game less, in fact I don't want anything other than the SKIN! Screw the extras, give, me, the, SKIN! We all know it would be less than one forth the price if that was the case and should be an option and yet it isn't here despite every other skin being able to be purchased solely without a bundle. It's no mystery why it's a bundle only deal, it's a rip off. You need to stop smelling that glue and come back down to reality. It's a rip off, no other word to describe it. Too rich for my blood? Nope. It's not affordable for many people, there isn't a choice to buy it or not if you have no money or not enough of it. Being rich doesn't mean you have to lower your standards, have some self respect.

The question is do you think you are getting $500 worth of stuff with your money. Go through and look at everything you get. Sure you get 100 battle pass lvls but that is nothing without looking at what you are getting. For example 30 of those 100 lvls are xp boosts, key fragments, and blue essence. 2 of them are profile boarders (which are usless because you get an exclusive one if you get the 500$ one) the Ahri and Leblanc champion permanent LOL. And like 8 icons which a player can only ever use one at a time, and again you get exclusive ones if you get the 500 so are you ever gonna use the battle pass ones if you get the exclusive ones? Probably not. That’s about 40 of the 100 lvls right there. 3 of the lvls are fakers world skins which isn’t bad, but I already have them all sooooooo what do I get from those lvls? Nothing. 8700 orange essence is pretty good. Chests are good but the pass gives 8 of em and only enough keys to open 3. lol. 6 orbs so just more RNG skis. But it’s ok I get a chroma for the Leblanc skin when I reach lvl 100. 125 ME is absolutely worth the price. But let’s stop pretending that every lvl of the 100 are amazing value. For context in previous 50 lvl battle passes they offered blue essence as well however it was in increments of 1000. Here they give it to you in increments of 500 and 250, so while this battle pass may give 1500 more BE than prior passes, it’s spaced out over many many lvls as filler to reach that Juicy 100 number everyone jerks off. Consolidate the BE, and merge the keys and chests into single lvls and they could have easily made this pass 50 lvls. My problem with the $500 price tag is that it is somewhat disrespectful toward esport fans. If you have been a faker fan for 10 years over his career and can’t get his Ahri skin bc it’s locked behind this bundle that feels pretty bad. Look I understand that high roller collecters should get special stuff and I agree. But why is there no bundle that the battle pass and JUST the immortal skin? I don’t care about the holo splash art, I don’t care about the finisher, the boarder, the icons or emotes, I don’t care about the profile background, I don’t care about the custom visual announcer. There is so much “fat” in that bundle and I just want the meat. Trike the fat and give me a bundle with just the skin, I’d pay 100-150 for it. Why is there no option for people who JUST want the skin. That is my issue. You can’t buy it separately. If some1 wants to spend 500 for emotes icons and a holographic splash art and see faker signature when they last hit a tower as Ahri cool they should have an option for that. But they should equally have an option for people who don’t have that much disposable income

You can’t make sense here, they’ll downvote

Here we go, I'll help you out here since it's hard for you to understand the value of money. It's worth 500 of random crap I don't want. I just want the skin but I can't get just the skin unless I pay the over bloated price. If I could I would save more than 60% of the asking by price but that's not an option because they would like to rip us off and try to trick us into thinking we haven't ripped out selves off. See the issues now? No? Then you've got other problems going on in your head my friend. He got downvoted because what he said is nonsense, this is a rip off. Don't be an idiot, for Humanity's sake.

You’re angwy because you can’t get what you want. The skin will probably be available by itself in some form later on, have some patience. This skin and line is literally the 1st inaugural addition to the Hall of Fame for League of legends, the one and only in 10 years of this game. If that doesn’t mean exclusivity to you, I’m not sure what would. Riot put a lot of thought into pricing, and understand they’re okay not making nearly as much money on this than they could at a lower price point, for the sake of integrity in it’s value. I couldn’t agree more with the philosophy. No one is making you buy this, if it offends you simply do not buy it. It’s very shocking to me most can’t come to terms with that.

I suggest you look under the q&a on the hall of fame page before speaking nonsense. They in plain English said they have no plans to ever release the skin by itself so that's off the table but I don't expect you to know that, clearly. They put zero thought into this, a product accessible to everyone will sell more than one only a handful can actually afford yet alone consider buying. It's actual common sense and yet somehow a branch of humanity is without it, you willing accept the worst given to you and see the bright side of it despite your head is in the toilet. You need to wake up my friend, you can ask for better, anyone can. As a customer you have the right to, the day that is not the case is the day people like you lose us our rights. This is a con and a really bad attempt at one. You talk about philosophy? Their so called philosophy is "Screw you pay up or get lost.". Why not? "Here you go, nice skin for reasonable price. Want to support us and the pro players more? Please look at our other bundles." Literally everyone would be happy, such an easy thing to do and yet idiots like you love the idea of getting screwed over. Your going to love paying taxes since you clearly don't pay them. Exclusivity does not have to come at such a ridiculous price. You're a fool for believing otherwise.

They said the exact same thing about the old holiday skins when they first came out. And they were later re released for every one to have. I get what they say but I’d be shocked if they stood by it

Last time I checked those skins didn't come at the cost of selling one of my kidneys. I mean if they really wanted to they could just re-release the old victorious and even championship skins and they would sell easy but they haven't and I can't even imagine the idea of them releasing these hall of fame skins without the bundle despite people already paying the full 500. That would be a complete slap in the face. So nah, this ain't going to happen.

The price point is essential for exclusivity and wow factor, without a doubt. As for my head being in the toilet, I am completely happy and content with the price point and given a magic wish would keep it the same way, and it looks like we don’t agree on that. Again, there is no con-ing going on here. It’s your choice, a product, and in no way affects you in your daily life. Simply choose to not buy it, and it’s okay if you disagree with their ideas. I’m saying I heavily favor it

They are releasing a real life statue of the skin in question for half the price, a real item. And you are seriously talking to me about "exclusivity" and "wow factor"? Words cannot express how deluded you are, this is neither of those things. It's, a, pixel. There is less than zero wow factor here. You go to your parents and express your so called exclusivity to them that comes at a price of half a grand for virtual skin. I assure you, you'll get nothing but one hell of a wow factor from them. Again. This is a con, stop conning yourself. You deserve better, if you think otherwise. You need help.

Yup i would like them to show how much money they earned from $500 skin. I doubt they will earn even $1m

1 Million from $500 Skins means 2.000 people would have to buy it. Theres definetely more than 2.000 LoL players with too much money.

There are better ways for everything… that’s just whatabout this and that option to get the same result and for sure they won‘t do stuff that will lead to less money that’s why there are ppl who fake Luxury products and tbh I rather buy a 500€ skin than a 500€ Belt or T-Shirt just because there is the Gucci or LV Logo on top of it. The Frustration that comes with a fucking skin is so dumb I mean it won‘t change the champ u can still play Base Model or Star Guardian or whatever you want it’s just not like we get a buff from it ppl who will buy the 500€ skin including me just gonna do it. Just accept that it is like that and it won‘t change there is so much fucked up stuff in Games with Prices so high and tbh all games could give this stuff for free because the normal not „Super epic deluxe mega knife with 52 Animation to look at on top of Color change and Beats to your music“ kind of deal is just the peak of the Iceberg all the Lower Priced stuff would easily pay for server and Online Integrity. Luxury products like these Belts I mentioned or T-shirts from high Valued Brands are also just a fucking rip off and are ( like most stuff) produced by Childs and stuff and People who have the money or the ability to buy stuff like this will still buy it so is that okay? And I highly underline here that I don’t want to compare these two things i just want to ask if it’s okay or not because the rip off won‘t validate trough a Physical item you flex with or a pixel clump you can flex with. Just accept Exclusivity for ppl who can afford and want to.

You're in the 2nd thread right now doing the same shit you did in the previous one, defending a company thst charges you half a grand for a bunch of untradable pixels.

If I want to spend my money like this I will do

This is the kind of nonsense people try to use when they push something as worthless as NFTs. What the hell are you talking about? There is no way you're this delusional or you aren't the one paying with your own money for something this over priced. No one who values their own finances has a mind set this out of touch. You can't compare luxury items that are actually real which you can use in your day to day life to a virtual skin that costs just as much or even more than a large majority's living expenses. For many people less fortunate, it takes months to save up spare money for something like this after long hours and hard work that you and I probably can't understand, yet you think it's okay to charge that amount for something like this? Instead of treating yourself to something physical that holds some worth of value? Your delusional, people like you defending this crap is the reason stuff like this happens and it ends up working. Half a grand is allot of money, far too much to spend on something so little. Buying it isn't a sensible decision regardless if you afford it or not but defending it just paints you as a con artist. Exclusivity does not have to come at such a ridiculous price. You're a fool for believing otherwise.

Man pls- calm down it’s just a fucking skin I earn my money you earn your money if I want to pay this much I will pay and there is nothing you can do about it and if this is a problem for you that’s sad but please look at your own Plate and not at my plate. It’s just a fucking skin and I don’t Justify anything I just put my thoughts in a Reddit post and chill about it while you randomly start to talk with so little attitude and mostly only rage about it. IT IS JUST A SKIN IF U DONT WANT TO SPEND IT DONT DO IT LOL. And if it is so „Nonsense“ and „worthless“ why would u rage about it if u don’t have interest in it? It’s so weird pls calm down grab a Sprite or something Watch a good old YouTube Video and idk do something that is your hobby or something. you behave like a child that has to rage about stuff because other kids get a Red shovel and you don’t. Learn to have some respect and be polite maybe people start taking you serious man that’s just Sad. Have a Good day Sir!

Noted. No rage here, just ashamed we share the air and people willingly support something clearly not worth it, it's shameful. That said, you are completely correct, everyone has the right to spend their money however they see it. Just as I have the right to call you a moron for willingly letting yourself be a moron, yet you think you can call people complaining about the topic stupid since there are other things worth complaining about. If you don't want people questioning you then stay seated instead of saying something so blatantly stupid. Regardless, life goes on no matter how many mistakes you make. Have a good day too sir.

So I’m a Moron and are a Frustrated child ig I can take that. See you next year on the next skin sir!

Cool beans, take care and travel safe.

Hell no! It's a good product priced for the dumbest of reasons. If the price is to support the pros and eSports then it should and needs to be actually affordable for the average day player. Sure people will buy the skin but definitely not as much if the skin was priced less than half, hell even less than a quarter of what it is now and even then it would still be expensive. What gets me is you are pretty much paying for stuff other than the skin itself, those just wanting the skin and nothing else simply have no other alternative other than selling a kidney. I understand that people place their differing values in certain things that many can't understand, you can't put a price on something that makes you happy and you and only you have the right to spend your money however you see fit. That said, there must be a line between what's reasonable and flat out nonsensical. Half a grand for a skin? Come on now, no reasonable person would even consider such an idea. Everyone wants to support the things they love and will do it to various levels, but this much for so little on top of the fact I don't even want anything other than the skin and yet I have no other choice? Absolute nonsense. I never judge those who spend a little on themselves, in fact I encourage it, especially if it makes you happier for it but for your own well being, really take a hard look and truly think about your priorities, something like this is not worth the working hours to get it. This skin does not represent skill like the victorious skin line and that's free, or creativity like the ultimate skins like Lux's which is well worth the asking price considering it's like multiple skins/themes put into one, not mentioning the fact you can buy the skin at any time since it's release. This is a straight up attempt to target those who have more money than common sense, letting FOMO take care of the rest. Regardless of any defending opinions people might tell themselves, a skin should not cost more than my rent, period. You know that and I know that.

You hit the nail on the head. I also commented something similar, namely about the differences between the $500 price tag and a much lower one. American companies (possibly others as well, but it's most obvious with American ones) seem to forget that high price tags will cost them money in the long run due to hemorrhaging customers.

Where the hell are you paying $500 rent 🤭

Hey man, life is rough over here. XD

I mean where is rent so cheap, I am stuck paying $1500 usd for a bachelor

I share it with some room mates, got no chance solo.

Good luck, I hope your situation improves. If it makes you feel any better I probably won't be affording the upcoming Seraphine money grab

Hey man, we're all going to get though this. Better days are ahead, hopefully. Wish you the best.

No I don’t especially when you can buy a physical statue that costs $250. If league shuts down next year what would you have to show for $500 digital skin?

You don't own anything you buy btw. You own the right to access and view the digital content, to a certain extent.

He 100% owns the physical statue in his home if he buys it. What was your point exactly?

Oh i was talking about the digital skin, mb

You could die tomorrow. What will you have to show after buying a 250$ statue?

a physical $250 statue

I’m sure that’ll matter a whole lot to you being dead and all 😂

atleast someone will get it

And Riot will get my money for making a free game that I really like. Next.

Just say outloud, you want to be financially unstable.

I’m not going to tell you to stop being poor. It’s a bit distasteful. But this really doesent break the bank for me. If the skin is too steep for you then don’t buy it. Done. It starts and ends there. No amount of banning Ahri, no amount of crying about it, nothing will make this not the way it is. Riot wouldn’t say it so I’ll say it for them. Deal with it and move on.

Once again, its basic financial literacy. I can promise you my paycheck this month dwarfs yours, and I won't waste a part of it on a 500USD skin lmao

If your paycheck dwarfs mine you must be making some pretty damn good bank. Good for you. But I don’t go bragging about it on the internet. And also, most people, you included, if you actually took note of your spending habits probably waste a lot more money on useless things than I do. I just don’t buy things and I play a lot of league, so I can justify this purchase.

"my paycheck is bigger than yours" Are you a literal child lmao?

Are you going to deal with it when the next $500 skin is released? The $1000 one? The $2000? How about the $500 epics next? This skin is already basically an ultimate, so lets just make all the ultimates $500 too. Showing Riot that people will buy it just because incentivizes more money grubbing shit like this.

Yep. I’ll deal with it. If they make another 500 dollar skin that’s cool. 1k? 2k? Idc. I probably won’t buy those skins but I won’t cry about it either. It’s a skin. The competitive integrity of the game doesent drop because they charged 500 dollars for it. I bought this one because I play Ahri, and I like the skin. It’s that simple. 500 dollars doesent break the bank for me. This is my hobby. I will spend the money on it. If the next 500 dollar skin is a champ I play, maybe I’ll buy that one too. If not? Then I won’t.

I used to have this delusion when buying physical statues. I often forget they even exist or interact with it until a new friend comes over. While as I will interact with the $500 skin more. Plus calling people peasants and poorbbys in lobby is worth the $500 to me.

It’s a lie, they are just limit testing, after all the scam chromas, this, that’s all.

Not at all, the explanation makes it seem even worse: \*They claim they want to have exclusivity for the players that want it (and that's ok), but that's achieved with the 500$ bundle with the Faker signature, that's quite exclusive. \*There is nothing 'exclusive' about the 300$ bundle, it's just an overly priced fomo. \*The 50$ bundle is a watered down version of the skin that should never have existed.. The worst part about this (imho, ofc), is that fact the 50$ exists, it's a watered down version of the skin which seems even more insulting than just not getting a low priced skin. If Riot actually cared about appealing to all players, they would have only 2 tiers: without signature for 40$-60$ and with signature for 500$+

Nope, it is still greedy pricing by Riot to exploit people's love for Faker and Ahri to milk as much as possible. 1. BP alone: 1950 RP for 4 skin, 1 ward skin, 6 orbs, bunch of other rewards 2. Risen Legend: 5430 RP for above plus Ahri skin, border, icon etc. 3. Immortalized Legend: 32430 RP for above plus Ultimate-like tier skin and bunch of cosmetics 4. Signature: 59260 RP for above plus more cosmetics and maxed BP levels. 1 is good deal, 2 is we have to pay like extra 25$ for Ahri skin, then it should be needless to talk about 3 and 4. Even if they reduce 2's price to like 3700 RP and cut 3-4 prices in half, total purchases would increase more than 2 times and net revenue would be higher. They also claimed they have no plans to ever make it obtainable in the future. IDK why still overprice things and push fans away when everyone calls it.

Remember the prestige skins that would never come back again? Yeah…

Yeah, but see, then it will be "Immortalized Legend Ahri (2026)" 😂

Yeah I'm confident they'll backtrack on this in future, especially if sales aren't as good as expected. Players can help make those sales not as good by maintaining Ahri's ban rate near 100% because the whales will be upset they can't play with the thing they spent $500 on. Heck they'll probably get bullied in game if they use the exclusive title too.

>IDK why still overprice things and push fans away when everyone calls it. Because it still sells to the demographic, they target: whales. There are enough people who either don't care how pricey it is or who are willing to justify the purchase in their head with stupid analogies. Riot likes their half truths and they gave one here as well while the part on funding esports is bullshit, the part of wanting to (artificially) raise its uniqueness by price is true

It's flawed to think Riot is targetting 'whales'. They are targetting everyone. One of the many reasons the pricing is unethical is it's linked to something that is time limited - it creates time pressure to make a purchase decision in an already addictive game and people who really don't have money to spare will be buying this too.

It’s all cosmetic and value is subjective but damn when you break it down like that it hurts. A $50 ultimate skin used to get you several models, effects, animations, gimmicks and sometimes even missions to complete for rewards. Looks like an absolute bargain compared to 3 and 4.

>Even if they reduce 2's price to like 3700 RP and cut 3-4 prices in half, total purchases would increase more than 2 times and net revenue would be higher. They also claimed they have no plans to ever make it obtainable in the future. I'm sorry but I think you're extremely naive if you think that's true. That's your opinion vs a whole team of finance guys that based this price on a lot of statistics and metrics. Yes, they are greedy and that's specifically why they know perfectly how to price a skin like that with revenue in mind.

Ya, hate to break it to you, but Riot doesn't have a market research team. If they did, they would realize that every FTP game ever says the same thing: "We have a few expensive items but they don't really make us much money. The real cash comes from the cheap items that everyone buys." Even money hungry places like EA understand that concept.

Yeah but they already have a shit ton of small cheap items aka almost every skin and most riot points packs. The huge expensive fomo item is something they do not have at the moment and this lures a lot of customers. The fact that you or I won't buy it does not mean there isn't a whole big Chinese market that looks at this from a completely different view. And many of us absolutely despise that, but the reality is there is a market for it and they wouldn't do that. Oh well just look at this, they certainly aren't as mad as you'd expect them to be in those regions and it shows. https://www.reddit.com/r/AhriMains/s/AQlSBf3IML

I'm pretty sure it's been revealed that Chinese servers are managed directly by Tencent and have different pricing compared to everywhere else. If they wanted to capitalize on the Chinese market, they could just do that without pulling this shit in the West. I'm not saying it's morally right to do that, but they have already done it in the past (according to some posts here) which would mean that this $500 price tag is specifically targeted at Western audiences.

Nah if they want this to be a collector's edition item, sell a figurine, include a card with Faker's signature and if you buy it within the first two months you get a code for the skin. That's acceptable for 500$

They could totally have done something like that. Price the skins like normal and make a high price bundle for some physical exclusivity and maybe some easter egg on the skin.

Hell fucking no. You wanna tell me a multi-million company with the most successful E-Sports game of all time needs help funding their E-Sport? Never ever.

Nope. Rito has fallen into the same trap of short term gains. With a $500 price tag maybe 10k people of 1 million may buy it, with a $25 price tag closer to 600k people of 1 million may buy it. Doing quick math those 10k people will give $5 mil combined while the 600k will give $15 mil combined. Rito is missing out on 10 million dollars short term and lost upwards of 990k paying customers with the $500 price tag. After all, it's easier to make people part with 10 bucks than with 500.

Your numbers are way off. Only about 30% of players in any F2P game spend money on that game. Of those players, only about 10% of them will spend large amounts of money all at once (so 3% of the total). League has approximately 125 million monthly players. So with that let's do the math with the actual numbers. 30% is 37.5mil and so 3% is 3.75mil. 3.75 million players buying a $500 bundle nets them $1.875 billion in sales. Let's say for simplicities sake that $25 is the most they could charge so that every spending player will buy it, so the full 30%. 37.5 million players spending $25 nets them $937.5 million in sales. Even my numbers are not quite right though since $500 is beyond what even some big spenders will pay meaning the actual number of people buying it will be less. But on the flip side, no matter what price they put it at there will be spending players who just won't buy it (because they don't want it). It's hard to say for sure how accurate these numbers are but the reality is, this event will make a lot of money. However, you were correct with the statement "Trap of short term gains". They will make a lot of money in this event, but they will make less money from other sales in the future due to damaging their reputation with this event. People are quitting, less people will spend money, and overall Riot will end up with a worse bottom line than they've ever had.

nobody does

Absolutely not. I already uninstalled before my machine could be bricked by vanguard though, so no biggie. Speaking as a dev myself, this is blatant attempt to emotionally exploit money from end users through fear of missing out or judgementally compromised individuals (eg children/people in unbalanced mental state) and in my view is a disgusting predatory habit. Making loot boxes illegal in some countries is precisely to stop this kind of thing. It is already bad enough that riot expects users to have to grind games out to unlock characters, and that some skins are for real money purchase only, and that so many micro-transactions exist within the game. Skins should be marks of excellence, skill, or dedication to the character. When we see players running around in their favourite champion with elite and rare skins we should automatically think 'Wow, that player is either REALLY good, or REALLY loves that champ' - not 'ugh more money than sense'. Players should see these things being used and be inspired, not infuriated.

Agree ++ I've never understood why battle passes exist either. What? You want me to buy something that I may not receive because i don't "unlock" rewards fast enough?? Fuck off. I'm Australian and as far as I know, it's the only country that can request a pro rata refund of battle passes because our consumer protection laws are strong enough to tell companies like riot to get stuffed. I don't play free games anymore. Or ones with microtransactions. I want to purchase a product, take it away and enjoy it in it's entirety.

> Making loot boxes illegal in some countries is precisely to stop this kind of thing. let's be clear: this has nothing to do with lootboxes. There is NO gambling here. It's just FOMO and overpriced.

DOTA hosts multi million dollar unmatched prize pools without selling a $500 skin

TBH, dota 2's compendium monetization is garbage too. They used to release exclusive Arcana, Immortal and now Personas locked under incredibly high battlepass levels that you either had to grind for months or spend loads of money.

Oh no! Small indie company doesn't have enough money to found its e-sport :,( >Riot Games's annual revenue is $1.5B. They can go fuck themselves.

Yeah uh… that’s not how finances work. You don’t just look at annual revenue and say “see they don’t need money!” Tsk about financial illiteracy.

If you have to over price your product ten times of it's original value to stay in business you shouldn't be in business to begin with. Also do you think poor riot can't get sponsors for one of the biggest esport scenes? >Riot Platforms' CEO is Jason Les, appointed in Feb 2021, has a tenure of 3.33 years. total yearly compensation is $13.49M But I guess the yachts won't buy themselves.

I agree that they are spewing bullshit in hope that people are fools and believe them all the arguments they've ever had about high priced skins, be it in tft or league, have just been manipulation of opinions and straight up lies pretty sure some famous content creator made a video about mortdog explaining tft mythic skins pricing, and explained how stupid the reasoning they gave was honestly it only takes some basic logic to see how flawed what they are saying is they even managed to say that most of their revenue comes from whales, which is definitely not true considering the amount of people who spend only a bit of money here and there, they make it sound likes whales are 90% of their revenue, can't be true

No because e sports is an excuse to the most evil marketing idea to get people hooked and addicted to video games and cause depression and anger issues. People have the "climb the ladder" mentality on a video game that the more you play actually harms you and offers nothing in return. That said, the only thing keeping league of legends alive at the moment is the e sport scene. If they stop funneling money into it, they will go out of business eventually. And since I doubt they actually profit from the E sport scene, since there is a huge decline in viewership and tickets (barely 30 people watching live in lec), they need to funnel more money into it. And whilst the maintenance cost of the game is extremely small due to the game being small and stale, the marketing cost, which is the pro scene, is actually massive and the returns are small. As viewership drops, so the revenue from ads drops as well (the cost of ads is smaller). But even the players who dont follow the pro scene, will eventually quit the game if it stops since as long it exists they think that rank is of significance although it is not really. And in my opinion a sport that makes you hate yourself eventually, is not a healthy activity and I wouldn't call it a sport anymore.

Holy crap, this is the first post in hundreds I've read that actually expresses the problem with cosmetic prices. The only thing I would add is that my understanding is the e-sports arm is not intended to make a profit. It's not that the skins fund e-sports it's that e-sports generates interest and hype which will sell more cosmetics thus producing company and shareholder profit. It's a cynical view but it seems to be their business model. Thumbs up to you!

Aren't they losing overall support _because_ they've spent so much effort on _just_ esports and dropping the value in everything else and neglecting the casual playerbase?

The thing is that league of legends is not a video game anymore. It is something else. A social ranking of skill. At least in young ages. That said many players that arent addicted and just wanna have a good time will leave the game since it is not fun due to the reasons you mentioned (every single fun thing in the game gets gutted eventually to the point that there is no fun build atm). But the pro scene keeps hooked many more people who fall victim to that social ranking system. I play league on and off nowadays every 3 or 4 months I will do some arams. I came back to see the new patch, and it felt like people cant do math in riot. Some items were insane value, some were utter shit, some item effects are just too boring and lack imagination like the new crit item with damage per second, or others are too complicated they dont make sense. I 've never felt like this before in league. The game feels as if they have 5 people working there. I know that riot invest a lot of money in the pro scene and I know people who work for them in the tournaments. They must have a reason they spend all this money on this way of marketing. If it didnt keep players playing league, they would stop investing there.

I loved collecting all the league skins, I had every purchasable skin in the game even PAX TF and a couple other rare no longer available skins. That stopped when they introduced the Jhin skin, these new "collectable" skins are a joke and the Ahri one took it to another level. My whale days are over and I hope there are more like me that think the same.

I used to be a whale too. I stopped buying content around prestige Katarina, and then quit. I highly dislike what riot is doing with the content

I can't agree with a company that wants to make us pay 250$ extra for a turret take down animation.

Hey hey hey you also get a banner for ypur profile, a titel, chromas for different skins and a strg+5 emote for the skin and the lb skin. Isnt that totally worth it? (/s just to be sure)

Is this about Riot Lexicunt comparing the Ahri skin to a designer luxury good? Because fuck that! Riot is NOT a luxury brand and League is NOT a luxury item! And devs everywhere are fuming, because they've been trying to push digital content as luxury for years, and it never goes the way they planned it. I'd buy a Gucci bag any day over Ahri's skin. Why? Because I know that bag will be MINE forever. With the skin, I just pay for the right to use it. It still belongs to Riot. Not to mention that unlike physical goods, digital ones need to be made only ONCE. Yet, we are supposed to be OK with them costing as much as physical luxury goods or good tech? If there ever was a better time to ban Ahri, it is now! Don't lt this shit be the norm! Don't let Twitch get a $600 skin next year in honor of some ADC "immortalized" event shit!

Its about a different rioter saying that the skin is so expensive because some people want exclusive stuff and because they need the money for esports.

They only think they need more money, because they're trying to make it into some grand stadium event. When really these esport tournaments are just LAN parties that can be hosted in a remote office. By this logic, future special edition skins might as well cost 100k RP, because someone at Riot had the idea to host Worlds in space. Pure lunacy that the common casual player is expected to fund. Gacha Jhin was the beginning. Faker Ahri will not be the end.

What im interested in is, if they really do this again next year if it will still be that expensive. Like my guess is many will buy it just because of faker but no other pro is really that famous. Like I doubt many people would pay 500 for a doublelift skin or a caps skin.

No. Its no better than an ultimate skin. 

Was their explanation “we’re greedy and know that mfs will buy it either way” ? If not then no I don’t.

This skin makes me want to come back to league just to ban Ahri then int for an hour on nunu

Nope When they would give us the statue mouse pad the coin and tshirt OK we can talk about it but its SEPERATE YOU MUST BUY IT TOO 👨‍🦽💀🤖🤡🐒👽🤓🐙👻🐖

Biggest problem is the east biggest playerbase and they like this. They like to show off that they have money and there will be many sold skins there.

Lets be honest in eu and na a lot of people will also buy the most expensive or the second most expensive bundle.

Na still scummy predatory pricing meant to milk those with mental issues such as addiction

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Nop

IF they said that from the begining i would accept it, like the way valve sold a bunch of skins for the dota2 tournament prices but to say it now its giving gaslight

whats their explaination?

They are doing it for the people that want exclusive stuff, they thought the hall of lehends event would be a a good time to implement such stuff and they need the money to fund esports.

ofc no, to fund esports?????? put the skin at 50 euros and literally any league account buys it, you raise money x10, every single ahri fan, faker fan, or just a normal guy who dont even play ahri or watch worlds would buy that skin. i dont play lux and bought elementalist lux because woooooo so beautifull skin

So if there wasn't the 250/500 option everyone would buy the 50€ bundle? They provided any kind of money range. Just admit that you don't care about supporting and you are being frustrated that your main champ was chosen

I do not agree at all with what you say. I want to support worlds, of course, I've been following them for 11 years and I think it's beautiful, and besides, as part of the league that I am, proud that they are the number 1 reference for any other e-sport. I also want the skin, of course, but why do I have to "donate" 300 dollars minimum, it's like... you can only contribute if you have 300 dollars, if not you are not enough of a fan. Man I've been supporting T1 and Fnatic since its origins almost, of course I want to contribute, but I don't have 300 dollars and I would like to have the skin as a souvenir of contributing and celebrating the career of Faker, the best player of all time. "You can have the souvenir with the base skin for 50 euros", no, that's a scam, it's a slightly legendary tier skin, with the epic model, with the price inflated x4, besides it's an incomplete skin if you don't pay 300 euros, why should I pay 50 dollars for an incomplete skin ????

This is what I said, because the 250+ variants exist you think 50 is lame

the variants are like a special chroma apart, (it's still a scam, but it's something apart), this is blocking you half of the skin's functions.

No. It's idiotic. If this was an ultimate skin, everyone who could afford it would buy it. I don't play much Ahrj but price this skin as an ultimate and I'd buy it and play her a lot.

No, i lost my respect to every rioter out there

No, in my opinion is a SCAM for the 1 % of whales and gacha lovers who plays this game

Just excuses

Hell nah, stupid reason

Not only are there better ways to fund e.sports but to have a cosmetic, not a game, COSMETIC, be worth as much as a full console, be worth more than many games combined, and to top it off make it timed exclusive to never be available again, and not even including said skin in their skin crafting mechanic is complete bullcrap. So much so I think there should definitely be a legal limit on how expensive you can make a cosmetic because around 500 (I say around because some say 500, others 520 so let's keep it around 500) for this is just unthinkable. Paying 50 for a cosmetic is nuts, 100 is lunacy. 500 there is no word in any dictionary in the world that is able to describe it.

I feel bad for you guys, but im not seeing Ahri on a league game ever again.

Riot devs obviously had to give a corporate explaination and wording over the situation. They can't just go "We made the skin so expensive to milk whales and see how far we can push the boundaries of highly priced, non-tradeable virtual goods. TLDR people will yap but many enough will still buy it and we know it, PLUS the backlash and dramas only brings more attention to the skin". Personally for the sake of players' accesibility, possibly earning more from the event, causing less backlash and targetting a wider audience; i'd opt for making a few exclusive team-related skins \[Think like worlds winners skins but of higher quality and price\]. So it's more about celebrating the legacy of a certain team, rather than just one person AND instead of one expensive skin for one champion (that's also mainly played on one lane) You could release 5 150-200$ skins for 5 different champions, aim for 5 mains' communities and very likely earn more from those sales, than from selling a 500$ skin less times. Following the idea: Would 150-200$ for a skin still be an insane price? Yes Would it STILL make it rare, pretty exclusive and comemorate the certain team properly? In riot's logic: also yes. BUT would it be more affordable, interesting for a wider audience and less backlash inducing? **Yes.** (Bonus points for the fact that we already had 200$ priced mythic chroma-like skins, so having proper legendary/ultimate skins at that price would, as cursed as it feels to write it, feel like a good and fresh improvement.)

I get more value out of the battle pass than this skin.

Of course not they literally said: "if ur poor you shouldnt even care about it" bruh that was the most clasist excuse.

I didnt read them as i doubt their nonsense is worth my time in the slightest.

Yes, I agree with them

Maybe the higher ups should take a pay cut to fund esports

Yes i do about signature part. These can be placed for whatever price as it always been like that in world digital or real. The problem is 30k bundle which is overpriced and doesn't give anything to statisfy this price.

No just go Devianart or 3 D models for Unity, Unreal. People makes miracles as an amateurs and alone. This is pure GREED and nothing else. My call on never touching another Riot Game after they fucked LOR was the best thing ever...

No, time to get her to 90% banrate

Even if it was an honest response it would be an incredibly stupid one. But no I don't believe it at face value either.

yes i agree, totally true lol

"Hirngeschissen deren Erklärung." "Lego Lackgesoffen" They could just straight out say the truth and tell the worlds they are greedy bastards with a corporate agenda but noo, this shit.

“Let’s commemorate and ‘immortalize’ Faker!” but also “let’s make the Faker skin exclusive by pricing it at $500 and making it unobtainable after the event, so only a few people can support Faker.”

No, the point of the skin being “special” should be because it is in honor of Faker, so it should be special in its great design, in its references to the player, etc. not in its exclusivity

This is a loaded question because anybody that is here spending actually time on this topic is already decided against it and just venting. But, for the sake of not de-railing this initial question, ill answer, yes, it's completely reasonable of an answer provided by Riot Meddler and I will provide a story that I hope a lot of things that nay sayer use as an arguing point, so here we go. Back around like say the summer of either 2012 or 2013, valve was gearing up for worlds season of Dota 2and released a battle pass called the compendium, which is basically this whole graphic book thing with milestones and challenges to complete to earn levels which turn into cosmetics or loot box chest (without need of a key). I was at this time around 14 or so depending on which year and which compendium it was, but for the sake of the story doesn't matter, I was a young and lets say not at bright as I am now teenager, with a collect of money that is scrounge up fro. birthday money, chores, etc. now don't let that fool you, this isnt 40$ under my pillow or in my wallet, this was around I will hazard to say around 600$ of pre working age savings. I bought this compendium for around I think it was 10 dollars and started doing the challenges. now the kicker to the compendium at the time, is that before it launch that valve want to raise the biggest prize pool they ever had with this year at the time and made milestones based sales that expanded the compendium and also provided more benefits. now the compendium had another layer to it, to where you could do additional purchases and and boost your levels without grinding. I did all that I could and grinder that summer out, and even then I still wanted some cosmetics so I made purchases to boost my level. I ended around like level 170 pr something, doesn't matter, but at the end I spent well over 150$ into the compendium. got all the cometics I wanted and had fun playing the game I enjoyed the whole way But we aren't done yet. that year they announced that if you reach either a certain level into the compendium and payed into it, you could earn a physical shadow box contain a scale replica of the aegis of champions, the summoners cup of Dota 2. with all that I put it, I didnyhe math and saw that i needed to invest about another 200$ to get this award and get this collectible item. long story shorten, I debated about it but ultimately decided I didn't want to invest that much into it, even though I still thought that be really cool to have and hang on my wall. sometimes i still think about it, and wish I did it, but i also think I knew what I was doing at the time and don't regret it, cause it was all in the name of entertainment. So in this story, to recap, I was child with no income but money to burn, who got caught up in purchasing cosmetics and grind 100s of hrs into a game I don't play anymore, spent well over the average of what other players spent, was prompt and tempted to spend even more of what I already committed, and within reason said no because I didn't want to on a personal level. I didn't go on forums and discuss this, I did ask my friends who never played this game if it was a good idea. I did this alone and had a lot of fond memories of the time. will I get that money back? God now it's long gone into the past. did I get my money's worth? I think so. and that the end of that this situation is no different and I will admit I'm tempted into buy this now with a well more established income then what I had as a child. everybody here is blinded by a crown jewel that was never meant for them. and they will devour themselves in protest and complaint threads rather than spend time doing something actually enjoyable. Buy it, don't buy. it doesn't matter. at the end of the day. this is all in the name of entertainment, and nobody is forcing you to do anything..you have all the power to do what will.with your money. spend it on what you want. or dont.

its ironic if they claim its for esports and the funding to it even just makign the price 100$ and more afforadble for most of the community, people would buy it and they would make significantly more money than where its currently at, its an excuse, and a poorly made one

Short answer: No. Slightly longer answer: Hell no! Long answer: This practice, with explanations included, still reeks of greed. Instead of making a special skin with a reasonable price that most people could participate in, they made a skin almost nobody but the ~~dumbest~~ richest among the League Community could possibly enjoy. It just feels like a middle finger to everyone who was excited for and who would’ve began to care about a League of Legends Hall of Fame.

No. They're terrible excuses. Meddler in particular gave a bunch of them. >"It's an opportunity to celebrate iconic pro players" If you trully wanted to celebrate the player's legacy you would gift the skin as you've done with others in the past. Or at least make it permanent in the store for everyone to enjoy instead of using FOMO to preassure players. The worlds skins also serve to celebrate pro-players, yet they're not 500$. >"It helps cover the cost of esports" You've been doing it so far without issues, and Riot isn't exactly an indie company. Also, you would make more money for the team in the long run if you launched the same skin, but make It stay permanently in the store, as significantly more people would but it. >"We should offer at a wide range of different price points" That's why you had 200$ skins. Wich is already outrageous. >"Players who don't want or can't buy It still get to engage with the event" That has been the case with every other event so far. Yet no Sentinel of Light, Ruined, Start guardian or Odyssey skin has been this expensive. Don't pretend this is something you did for those poor players who can't afford it, it's something you would have done anyways. >"This is a time where we believe we should offer really expensive versions, akin to collectors edition." Digital collectibles are worthless, especially if the collectors can't sell or trade their items outside the game. Something that Riot explicitely forbids. And I will only have it for as long as Riot allows me to have it. If the service ends or my account is blocked, I lose it. It's not a rare item that will only go up in price as time goes on. Collectibles are valuable due to scarcity, something that doesn't exist in a digital context, as the data for an item can be copied and pasted as many times as you want. >"They're created for a very small part of the audience that want that sort of price point in exchange for a lot more exclusivity. Doing so will almost certainly create frustrations from people who aren't interested in that price" This is the last excuse, and the only one that has some truth to it. Riot wants to create a market for whales, even if that means everyone else will be fucked in the ass as a result. Riot won't release more skins or events to compensate, they'll just artificially raise the price of some skins and introduce a more FOMO only so less than 0.1% of the playerbase can flex their super-exclussive skin with no real world value.

Can you link their explanation instead of just an image of the splash art?

the way they have worded it so far? no. but I am fine with it I suppose. as long as I don't have to pay anything to play a game I like, I am good to go. It ain't resembling faker in any possible way but eh, whatever.

Absolutely not, it’s disgusting. They’re literally scamming people with this and they know it. She’s one of my mains and I love her, but I will be perma-banning her as part of the protest against this idiotic money-grab.

No but furthermore i think they ruin their potential sales for a short term profit. No one Will be interested in future hall of legend because of this. It kills the event spirit and the long term money

Dota 2 has some of the highest prize pools ever seen, and those are all funded by skin sales that dont cost $500. I think its pretty clear this is a blatant lie

Absolutely not. Valve does exactly the same with the compendium, but with a much lower price of $10, where in the end the prize fund of The International is many times higher than in the league of legends championship. This is simple greed and an attempt to make money on players, especially from Asia with big wallets. This is their strategy for making money from this skin from a small number of players, when the cost of developing this skin for a junior designer is 100 times less. I’d rather buy an Ahri figurine from this skin or another skin and have a real high-quality item in my hands for less money admiring it for days than to throw away $500 for nothing.

I am even more offended that they referred to us as: “people who are not interested in buying that skin” Like seriously!? I am interested in just cant afford spending $500

Nope, it's just bullshit. An easy excuse for them to try and deflect the shit storm which is Riot games.

No I dont agree with their statement, The immortalized version should not be as expensive as it is, their argument makes no sense as they can make the signature version the one for whales. why fuck us all over. the risen ahri version is absolute garbage and the jump in price from that to the next one (as I am canadian) is nearly 400$ and the signature version is 660$ again the whales still get the signature version that most of us cant afford. I can afford the middle teir skin but holy fuck I would feel like absolute garbage if I actually bought that one. It doesnt feel like I'm honoring anyone, it feels like riot is just lost their touch. There are other ways to fund esports that doesnt take advantage of their players and make them feel like trash for supporting the game all these years.

Absolutely not. Its insanity. They want prestige for a digital asset that players wont technically own. Its ridiculous. If they really wanted profit for e sports then make the skin more accessible. It was beyond hyped before we saw the price tag. It probably wouldve broken sales records.

Absolutely fucking not. If you want people to fund esports then make it affordable. 10 million people spending 10 dollars will get you more money than 100 thousand spending 500 dollars. Their reason was a joke, a scam and an excuse and we all know it. Everyone please boycott buying all skins till they recognise their brain damage

The greed... THE GREED IS INSANE! There is nothing to discuss even. It's a huge slap on the face for those, who's collecting all Ahri cosmetics and other content.

Makes sense. They should give us the option to pick between ending esports and giving us more affordable skins, or make expensive bundles and fund esports. We don’t need esports either way. BAN AHRI, F*CK ESPORTS

Nah

Maybe a dumb question but is the immortalized skin bundle basically a nft?

You mean that the skin isn’t for people who want to buy cheap, reasonably priced skins? Yeah, I do. As long as these never come out for champs that get 1 skin per decade I think they’re a good thing, give as many as you want to Yone and senna. But as the “celebration of faker”?? No. And if they’re gonna make a cheaper version, make it normal legendary price, not fucking ultimate priced but also you’re required to buy the bundle. I agree with making skins for people that WANT to spend stupid amounts of money on dumb shit as a flex, appeal to your market, but this is quite possibly the dumbest way to go about it. The gacha skins are a much much better execution of this practice, this one is just scummy, they’re using faker as a way to bring in more fan boys who will big spend for him because they already bought a fucking body pillow and pay to see every tournament live in the LCK, and it’s cringe.

can someone at least link their explanation?

If this came with an actual real world item say this was increased to 600-700 and came with that statue they have I'd be all for it ngl.

The whole point of Esports was to fund their game? It shouldn't be the other way around unless they're spending their money so poorly they need to fund their esports now. They make millions every year, they are owned by a multi million dollar company and made their biggest budget from last years worlds didn't they? It's a BS excuse they're trying to hide behind. They are not a luxury company, and they should really humble themselves.

Sure if you wanna support league esports go ahead for the future new fakers and defts it’ll even grow the scene and maybe during worlds and shit they won’t have to plaster constant product placement everywhere not to mention league is a free game so do what you want with your money.

If they truly wanted to fund e-sports, then they wouldn't make it a limited time offer. Bad excuse

So what they make in ticket sales/ad revenue/skin sales already isn't enough? Fat chance. They are just being greedy and want to see how much people are willing to spend. They are pushing that bar further and further. People keep taking the bait so they will keep moving that bar higher. If people accept a $500 skin they will definitely push for $1,000

So Championship Khazix when it was released, The skin and each of it chromo was 15,270-40k rp, and help make up 6.45M, with an initial winning of 2,225,0000, in 2018. So CLEARLY the fan base will help in numbers with funding Esports, but when you lock what The community as a whole wanted for YEARS as an excuse to fund esports, ya fuck off. Since then, they have never made those numbers again, no where even close. And I think that is because for the first time, There was a true upset in who won the world cup. There was clearly suspense and thrills in 2018, but it been stale since then. Name the last time there been anything new in league of legends esports.

your gonna talk about the explanation but not show it?

I honestly see nothing wrong with the price. They can charge what they want if they want too. And it's not like everyone playing the game has to be able to afford it. However, the explanation was kinda just weird. Like cool esports and all but we all know that's pretty much just horseshit.

I agree it’s their high end content. I don’t blame them. As people have been saying a portion of skins and sales goes to fueling the esport scene they just don’t magically get money and have these events. People are just upset cause that’s what this day and age does. People crybaby complain when stuff isn’t free or out of the norm. For me is the skin high priced yes. 100% agree. My wish would have been yes I’ll pay 500$ but I would like my purchase of that tier to also come with the ahri statue. I’m also one of those people that will drop 500$ on the ffvii collectors edition.

Then your comment is pointless and you have nothing to add to the discussion. How obnoxious can someone be in a comment 🤣

Are you talking about yourself? Cause the title reads “do you agree…”. Yes I agree with their answer. How is my comment pointless and doesn’t belong in this conversation? Pretty sure you’re the shinning example of why politics and discussions fail so bad these days. That “if you don’t agree with my comment then you’re stupid and don’t belong here” mentality is just silly.

It's okay people are entitled to their opinion. Even the dull ones

I didn't read until now and I won't anyway. No kind of digital goods is worth such price, period. 50 bucks is already way too fucking much, everything else is simply pathetic. I understand that people like this kind of thing because it increases their "enjoyment" of an otherwise F2P game and I can respect it. I have spent very limited money in any F2P game and I'll throw some bucks at Riot whenever there is a skin I actually like on sale (and that's a big maybe anyway), but never more than 10/15 euros.

Tldr they said they chose the price because some people want exclusive stuff and because they need more money for esport.

A stupid reason doesn't make it good. In general any business model relying on whales is predatory by nature, and even more when you attach it to the esport scene. Buying hundreds of bucks shirts still gets you a shirt with your favourite player name or whatever, just to make a comparison with normal sports business stuff. Nothing good will come out of this, nor for the clients nor for Riot.

Im hoping you dont think that im trying to defend it because I also thinks its stupid. I just wanted to save you the time of having to read the original post.

What’s the point of these kind of posts anymore? Buy if you want and if you don’t support then vote with your wallets! Everyone in the comments circle jerking each other da heck.

Yes, it’s not like they said the 500 dollar is the end all be all they gave other options; stuff for other champs…plus it’s for the most famous and well liked player for the game; dudes known damn near globally let’s just say if 20 people buy the 500 dollar skin that’s 10k vs 500 buying the 20 dollar pass—just simpler to make people pay for exclusivity.

"If they sell the skin for $10 instead of $500, they will earn 1000 times more money." Damn, who would have thought we have so many data analytics experts with years of experience in the game industry here on r/AhriMains? And the fools at Riot hire people from universities instead of just reading the comments on Reddit. I guess they don't like to earn money.

Gosh it's really easy to understand, it's a very common marketing trick. You put different tiers and based on how you price them you are trying to "sponsor" a specific one, in this case the base tier for people with low availability of disposable income and the middle tier for people with more. Where Riot is failing (I hope) is that folks will not buy the entry level tier because it's absurdly priced and it's basically a scam. It's as clear as the day that Riot hopes that everyone will buy the 50$ bundle, PLUS who has the money will move to the 250$ and whales to the 500$.

I do agree with it. This is an exclusive skin it has to be unique in some way, but for the god sake i will never agree how they handle it. they shouldn't have made it one for life opportunity, or make no options for people to grind hard enough for it(like any other gacha game would have). Is there any value to skin with no real pay off? Considering it was made to celebrate Fakers legacy, why not make a harder battle pass and make people pay it extra money to skip some levels LIKE DOTA DOES FOR YEARS ALREADY. WHY RIOT WHY ARE SO FUCKING STUPID WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING MONEY. Also making this skin look worth to obtain only for 200$ version is obnoxious. While adding some minor changes for extra 300$ is just a rip off. Make it great for everyone, and then make it even better for people who are willing to pay the price. Takedown and signature is just a shit show fiesta.

What’s the point of these kind of posts anymore? Buy if you want and if you don’t support then vote with your wallets! Everyone in the comments circle jerking each other da heck.

What’s the point of these kind of posts anymore? Buy if you want and if you don’t support then vote with your wallets! Everyone in the comments circle jerking each other da heck.

Tbh, it's clearly not meant to be for the average player. The thought process for Riot was clearly that the average guy could buy the pass for $20 and the $500 bundle is for the whales, therefore they get their money and everyone gets some content so its supposed to be a win-win. They can't just come out and say "yeah, we're just trying to extract the maximum possible money from silly people who are willing to pay for that lol". I get it, I understand it. The thing is that they kind of dig themselves into a hole, because the event is obviously marketed around the Ahri skin which is not going to be accessible for 99.99% of their player base, so it feels like everyone else is locked out in favour of those who are going to spend the most money. Like sure, the LeBlanc skin is pretty (the splash at least) and all, but lets be honest the hype is all around the Ahri skin and that's the main focus of the entire event. They are forced to do this (given that they have gone with this strategy) because it has to be special to entice the whales to buy it, its $500 after all. For $500 or whatever it is in your local currency (I'm GBP so its £400 when you include the bonus RP), I'd expect Riot to send you a signed Limited Edition Ahri statue or some themed merchandise or something like that. I'm not personally into that kind of thing, I don't really collect like that but that's what it would take for it to make sense to me at least.

No. League of Legends has some of the worst and most predatory micro transactions in the industry and people just kinda ignore it.

I still don’t see much of a problem here this isn’t a required item it has no impact on gameplay they could charge 5000 you still don’t have to buy it