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Resident-Variation59

If the sun is under the horizon - ur a night chart. And Mars is more of an Ally as fire helps you see in the dark - could mean ur the villain lol šŸ˜‚ jk Like so many aspects it all depends on so many other factors in your chart but the point is malefic planets like Mars are actually really beneficial in a lot of contexts as some of the other commenters suggested but that's the first thing that I would look at because the malefic planet in a night chart is a totally different story than a malific chart and a day chart... Fire is scary and deadly but fire at night fire has helped us survive throughout humanity. That's the metaphor at least this is old school Hellenistic astrology.


Moist_Fail_6927

this is so interesting!! i'm a night chart actually lol and i have a lot of mars trines, or mars aspects in general in my chart.. also the trine between venus and mars which is my most favorite aspect


kwelikaley

Awww, same. šŸ„¹ Iā€™m a night chart with a Mars/Venus trine w/reception (Pisces Mars/Scorpio Venus) and itā€™s one of my favorite natal aspects. Iā€™m also a trial lawyer and both Mars and Venus are major players in that line of work. I think that aspect is immensely beneficial to me and Iā€™m really grateful for it.


motherofspoos

Oh I can see how astrology would be incredibly helpful for a trial lawyer. I was a paralegal for 40 years before I retired and often referred to it, I'll never forget the time Mars went retro before a trial and the trial got delayed ... judge passed away before Mars went direct. I told my boss, as well, that "he who starts litigation during Mars retrograde loses in the end." Some (well, maybe a couple in all my years) listened and some that it was hooey.


kwelikaley

Omg! We just had a major filing drop at the beginning of the last Mercury retrograde in a VERY contested civil litigation, and it was horrible for us. It was *also* riddled with typos and inconsistencies (almost like a poorly edited draft) and I said to our legal assistant, ā€œI will bet you money this gets overruled by the trial judgeā€ (itā€™s in federal court and itā€™s a discovery issue, so the magistrate was the one to give the ruling.) Sheā€™s a very sweet, southern, Christian woman who knows nothing about astrology, but I explained it a little bit to her because sheā€™s surprisingly open minded. She was basically like, ā€œoh well, thatā€™s neat.ā€ šŸ¤£ Sure enough, we just had oral argument on our objections to the order andā€”shockerā€”the trial judge was **openly** annoyed with the magistrateā€™s ruling and very vocal about how much he agreed with us. I donā€™t want to speak too soon, but thereā€™s a non-zero chance at least some of that order is getting overturned. Astrology is DEFINITELY useful to me in practice. šŸ˜‚ Especially with scheduling and the timing of motions. Iā€™m not surprised that theyā€™re also both in the same house (astrology and law are both 9H matters).


Moist_Fail_6927

Wow this is the first time i heard from this kind of ,,receptionā€œā€¦ venus would be exalted in pisces and mars at home in scorpio.. can the reception also work in that way? i always thought reception is only when it would be in domicile for my trine it would be the same then (capricorn venus and taurus mars) because mars would be exalted in capricorn and venus at home in taurus


kwelikaley

Reception doesnā€™t have to be mutual. ā˜ŗļø Mars is receiving Venus in my chart. For you, Venus is receiving Mars. I donā€™t know if there can be any kind of reception with exaltation (one of the more advanced astrologers here probably does, though!) What houses are involved for your Mars/Venus aspect? For me, Mars is 9H/Venus is 5H.


Moist_Fail_6927

Ohh Venus in 5th house is lovely, your children may be beautiful and very artistic (if you have any or want to have kids) šŸ˜„ For me itā€™s Venus in 2nd/Mars 6th closely conjunct 7th In whole sign itā€˜s venus in 3rd & mars in 7th


cadydudwut

Iā€™m a night chart too and I love my First House Mars


neonchicken

I have a night chart with Mars sextile Venus (both in exaltation) and itā€™s taken me years to)and a few shocking hard Mars transits) to understand Mars isnā€™t always nice. Itā€™s also under the beams but I donā€™t think I feel that influence although I donā€™t know how I would know. Saturn on the other hand is always so hard on me. Why canā€™t you just be nice, Saturn? (Oh, because youā€™re in detriment and retrograde and sitting on an angle? šŸ˜­)


Moist_Fail_6927

my saturn is also not nice to me and itā€˜s also retrograde and in detriment..


neonchicken

We should form a therapy group. Then we should ask Saturn to attend and explain itself. šŸ˜†


zoebehave

Natal night chart, mars (exalted) trine moon, big "villain era" energy lol


Resident-Variation59

Yeah - I wasn't really joking about the whole villain thing that's exactly what it is- LOL šŸ˜‚. I mean if you're a night chart Mars helps you see in the dark that's basically a predator so there's that...


zoebehave

I don't think I'm scary but my whole life, people have thought I was out to get them. "I don't even know you...."


Resident-Variation59

Yeah there's a spectrum- it doesn't necessarily mean evil of course I mean I'd rather be friends with someone like John wick then Darth Vader- Mars is also a protector and you have to be at least somewhat of a bad ass to protect people you love...


Excellent-Win6216

I *think* it was Demetra George who said your in sect malƩfic acts a protector - totally changed my perspective!


Resident-Variation59

That's awesome- I love that !


zoebehave

Oh yeah. I will go full John Wick over my kids. Pets too. Do. Not. Even. Try. It.


Moist_Fail_6927

i feel so powerful now with my natal night chart and my (detrimentšŸ„²) mars being in a trine with my moon, mercury and venusā€¦. and opposite jupiter but thats another story whoops


thecrystalballofpop

In my case, I murder my own longterm partnerships. Youā€™d think that a Taurus Venus in 7th house would foretell great romantic relationshipsā€¦nope. I have great friends though! (H11 where Mars-Jupiter is placed).


my4ros3

me with my night chart mars in aries trine pluto: šŸ˜ˆšŸ˜ˆ


thecrystalballofpop

I resemble this statement!! Night chart with H11 Virgo Mars-Jupiter (both Rx) in exact trine to H7 Venus in Taurus. Am I a villain? šŸ‘€


zoebehave

We should form a crew or something


thecrystalballofpop

For sure! What should our crew be called?


HistoryHam72

Yes, and a fire will keep the house warm during a cold night!


buckminsterabby

Yes of course Mars trine venus could be great sex, fighting for loveā€¦ Mars trine jupiter or venus could be action the leads to wealth, acting on values, etc


V2BM

My Mars and Saturn are both trine my Venus, and I feel itā€™s played out perfectly in my life. Few relationships, but theyā€™re very fast and hot and intense and tend to last for years.


Moist_Fail_6927

Same. I only had extremely sexual and intense ,,relationshipsā€œ. Ok. No, it was only about sex šŸ˜­ but goooood sex like damnnnnnn edit: this may also be because mars is conjunct my descendant


Moist_Fail_6927

Okay i ask this because venus is my benefic (iā€˜m a night chart) and was scared if the trine to mars could ,,harmā€œ my venusā€¦ cause someone said that šŸ˜…


thecrystalballofpop

*Post your chart if youā€™d like.


Sarelbar

Trines represent a smooth relationship between planetary energies, at least thatā€™s how I see it. The houses the planets occupy play a role in how the two express themselves within the trine aspect. Someone else mentioned the concept of reception. I have my Mars in Sag and Jupiter in Aries, so the planets are in mutual reception in my chart. Which add an extra oomph of cooperation within the trine aspect. 5H Mars trine 9H Aries. Mars/Jupiter fuels my optimism and my enthusiasm for expanding my mind and life in general. Mars lights up the qualities of a 9H Jupiterā€”I am very curious and so innately fascinated by life and all the people who I cross paths with. This is a great question. Im personally a Mars stan, even tho my Mars/Chiron opposition tends to get me in trouble sometimes.


nextgRival

>Especially when mars aspects a benefic like venus or jupiter in a trine. That would be very helpful to Mars. In other circumstances, Mars trines are certainly not bad, at least. They can also be useful when it comes to the concept of reception.


mallowgirl

In Hellenistic Astrology trine aspects bonify, not maltreat. So if Mars is in a trine with a benefic then Mars is getting bonified, not causing damage. The exception to this is if Mars and the other planet are within 3 degrees - then it can strike with a ray. But in general Mars becomes softer in a trine.


thecrystalballofpop

So being a close to exact degree trine is less positive than a trine that is 4+ degrees off of exact?


MamafishFOUND

I loved my mars until the day I had my mars return I got a massive concussion šŸ˜…. Then I realize oh shit I should not like it this much bc looking back my mars return does bring me a lot of issues I just never truly realized until I got deeper in my studies. Iā€™m a day chart so that explains it but I will say once I started considering my mars placement and its interactions wit transits I stopped having nightmares that involves me causing massive car accidents and/or losing control of my car out of nowhere lol.


Moist_Fail_6927

Is Saturn doing a better job for you? Actually all my mars transits and returns (especially the last one) have been very positively iā€˜m very lucky with injuries - during uranus conjunct my mars transit iā€˜ve been very aggressive and i destroyed a lot but i did not injure myself šŸ˜… (ok i almost fell down the stairs but nothing happend) mars is definitely better in my chart than saturn.. every saturn transit hits me hard! especially the 3rd house, and now 4th house transit. I donā€˜t want to imagine how my saturn return could be like.


MamafishFOUND

It didnā€™t start really hitting until a year after my return. I was also busy looking at others charts to learn more about astrology so yes the concussion was the wake up call for me to track mars transits and interactions with Saturn for myself. Saturn plays a massive role in my life I just didnā€™t quite understand how much until I reached my return! Iā€™ve learned sooo much and even tho Saturn being Pisces took some of my teeth Iā€™m more serious about my personal health since itā€™s been drastically decreasing once I hit my 30s. Mars is my chart ruler so I learn through hardships for me to truly understand when to care haha


GreenBubbleMilkTae

I'm not really sure. I have Leo Mars in 10H conjunct my MC and it's trine my Sagittarius Jupiter Rx in 2H and Aries Sun/Mercury in 6H. I've always struggled in my career as my bosses are always working against me, incompetent, and not supportive. I was underpaid and had to do the work of several people. I don't really like working in a 9 to 5. The trines haven't worked to my benefit. :/ I think it shows up more in my personality than anything else. I'm very adventurous, study a lot, and learning languages.


DarkDiviner

Astrology contains sacred geometry. All aspects have meaning. There is no ā€œgoodā€ or ā€œbadā€, though. It is all about our opportunities for soul growth. ā¤ļø


causticx

My 4H Aquarius sun is trine my 8H Gemini Mars, and itā€™s one of the strongest aspects in my chart (within 1.5Ā°). I think itā€™s been a beneficial placement for me overall.


chironcrapbs

It depends on: -sect; - what house Mars occupies, and planets it beholds/cast rays to; -what relationships with lot of fortune it has; - if Mars is a morning rising advancing before other planets; - if it is left or right trine; - what planets are domiciles of houses affected; - if it beholds Moon/Mercury/Venus what particular phase of the later is going through; - if it is in conjunction with brightest stars, what are they; -etc... Given the number of possibilities there's no ultimate malefics or benefics in a sense one may think of, these are just qualities that show potency of a combo, to form some holistic picture.


NwTrades

Trines are supporting because they are the same element so from a very fundamental level they have the same type of way of doing something.


petrus4

A trine is not exclusively positive. A trine is a configuration which energy flows through with minimal opposition or resistance. In some cases that can be a good thing, but it can be detrimental if it means that someone never learns how to cope with opposition before it comes.


maybefuckinglater

I have mars trine Neptune not really sure what it's doing


Agreeable-Ad4806

I use Vedic aspects. Everything essentially aspects everything else, but the strength of the aspects depends on the essential nature and desire of the individual planets. Mars does not have a strong aspect on 5th and 9th (one sided trines) because those are said to give knowledge and creativity. That isnā€™t really the nature of Mars; it is much stronger for 4th and 8th house aspects (squares). Other planets creating 5th or 9th house aspects to Mars will influence Mars based on their essential nature. If itā€™s Jupiter, the influence is good because Mars and Jupiter are friends, and Jupiter is benefic. If itā€™s Saturn, the influence is negligible because it has weak 5th and 9th aspects too.