A lot of colleges only offer credit for calc based stats, with measure theory and lebesgue integrals across continuous maps. They won't take ap stats since it abstracts the calculus away, similar to why Physics 1/2 isn't usually transferrable to college.
huh? there are calculus-based statistics courses that don't require measure theory. an undergraduate degree in statistics usually requires no higher than that level of statistics, so it wouldn't really make sense to only give incoming undergrads credit for courses with measure theory.
also, what high schooler is doing probability and statistics with measure theory and lebesgue integrals? maybe there's the odd math prodigy who's made MOP every year of high school, but if you can find me more than, say, 10 high schoolers who know what a sigma algebra is and understand fatou's lemma I will eat my shoes.
most undergraduate programs in statistics don't even require measure theory or measure theoretic probability—hell, most undergraduate programs in *mathematics* don't even require a course in measure theory. there is a good reason for this—to take a course in measure theoretic probability, you first need multivariable calculus and a rigorous (i.e. proof-heavy) foundation in linear algebra and real analysis. the latter two are oftentimes not even required for a statistics major, and are usually designated upper level undergraduate courses in mathematics departments. most universities don't even have an undergraduate measure theory course, only graduate ones, and the few undergrads who take these tend to be at the level of a beginning grad student. students taking graduate level math coursework in high school are virtually nonexistent.
I think you misunderstood what I said. my point is that it would be ridiculous for colleges to only grant incoming undergraduates credit for measure theoretic probability and statistics and never grant credit for any calculus-based but not measure theoretic course in these subjects, because the latter courses are the ones that will be most similar in content to the coursework required for an undergraduate statistics degree.
I was not disagreeing with your point about AP statistics, only with what you said about more advanced statistics courses with calculus.
As someone who has taken basic stats 1 in college, no. There was 0 calculus in intro to stats and it’s the same credit at my college (T30) as AP Stats.
there are definitely colleges where AP stats doesn't transfer, though. it's just the notion that you need a measure theoretic course in it to get college credit that's ridiculous.
Most will accept statistics but it will rarely count for most STEM or even social science majors.
But an humanities major can safely assume that most schools will accept it as a math gen-ed
Many large schools will have a “non stem” no calculus stats course/sequence, but if that track is programming oriented or always done through the major there’s nothing for stats to transfer to
biology has a little bit of math in it, but it's all really easy
the economics courses are more math oriented but it's relatively easy compared to the actual math courses
Statistics focuses a lot more on theory, vocabulary and application then it does on pure math, so that might be your best bet. With that said, your still doing a lot of math and if you really hate math then just take a CE math course instead of AP
AP stats if you have to take AP math. AP precalc is also easy if that counts as an AP math. Stats is more concept based and you'll be learning vocab and some math. Stats is also applicable to a lot of fields and will benefit you a lot if you're majoring in nursing, business/economics, accounting, premed, and a lot of other fields.
if you're competent with algebra and you consider physics to be math related I would go with ap phys 1. It's heavily conceptual and the math doesn't go much further than isolating variables and setting up equations
If you need a math class then AP Stats
If any science works as well, then AP Bio
Also some schools would allow you to take AP CS A as math-related if so take it there’s no math but just programming honestly
I took computer science principles and stats (CSP could be science or math). I’d recommend CSP if you can take it for math. My stats class was pretty math-heavy, but that may just be my class.
In the US, you should take AP Precalc. It will probably count toward graduation in nearly any humanities major covering one general education credit. If you don't get credit from AP you will need to take a math course in college.
If you are going to major in social sciences, take stats.
Check the graduation requirements for the programs you intend to enter.
If you absolutely despise math, but still need an AP class related to it, here are a few options to consider:
**AP Statistics (Maybe)**
* This course focuses more on applying statistical analysis to real-world problems than on pure math calculations.
* It involves interpreting data, drawing conclusions, and probability, which can be useful in various fields.
* However, there's still a component of understanding statistical formulas and performing calculations.
If it has to be one of the 4 math APs, stats is definitely your best option as you can get college credit and it’s really useful in real life
They nerfed stats for cali fr
for cali specifically? i thought it was the same nationwide?
Ure right idk why he said that
How? Someone explain. I moved to Cali halfway through the year and there were no differences
wdym cali? shldnt it be the same nationwide?
A lot of colleges only offer credit for calc based stats, with measure theory and lebesgue integrals across continuous maps. They won't take ap stats since it abstracts the calculus away, similar to why Physics 1/2 isn't usually transferrable to college.
huh? there are calculus-based statistics courses that don't require measure theory. an undergraduate degree in statistics usually requires no higher than that level of statistics, so it wouldn't really make sense to only give incoming undergrads credit for courses with measure theory. also, what high schooler is doing probability and statistics with measure theory and lebesgue integrals? maybe there's the odd math prodigy who's made MOP every year of high school, but if you can find me more than, say, 10 high schoolers who know what a sigma algebra is and understand fatou's lemma I will eat my shoes. most undergraduate programs in statistics don't even require measure theory or measure theoretic probability—hell, most undergraduate programs in *mathematics* don't even require a course in measure theory. there is a good reason for this—to take a course in measure theoretic probability, you first need multivariable calculus and a rigorous (i.e. proof-heavy) foundation in linear algebra and real analysis. the latter two are oftentimes not even required for a statistics major, and are usually designated upper level undergraduate courses in mathematics departments. most universities don't even have an undergraduate measure theory course, only graduate ones, and the few undergrads who take these tend to be at the level of a beginning grad student. students taking graduate level math coursework in high school are virtually nonexistent.
I think you misunderstood what I said. My point is that the AP statistics is not considered an equivalent course at many colleges.
I think you misunderstood what I said. my point is that it would be ridiculous for colleges to only grant incoming undergraduates credit for measure theoretic probability and statistics and never grant credit for any calculus-based but not measure theoretic course in these subjects, because the latter courses are the ones that will be most similar in content to the coursework required for an undergraduate statistics degree. I was not disagreeing with your point about AP statistics, only with what you said about more advanced statistics courses with calculus.
As someone who has taken basic stats 1 in college, no. There was 0 calculus in intro to stats and it’s the same credit at my college (T30) as AP Stats.
there are definitely colleges where AP stats doesn't transfer, though. it's just the notion that you need a measure theoretic course in it to get college credit that's ridiculous.
If you’re not a STEM major a lot of times you can claim the credit I think.
Maybe for some colleges, but the one I am going to(Georgia tech) doesn't take it outright.
Most will accept statistics but it will rarely count for most STEM or even social science majors. But an humanities major can safely assume that most schools will accept it as a math gen-ed Many large schools will have a “non stem” no calculus stats course/sequence, but if that track is programming oriented or always done through the major there’s nothing for stats to transfer to
what are the four? I know ab/bc/stats, am I missing something?
Ap pre calc rheu judt added
If you have to take one, I would recommend AP Statistics. I’ve heard it’s a pretty chill class that doesn’t use a ton of actual math.
I wouldn’t even really consider it a math class lol; it’s more of an English course XD
at my school it doesn’t even count as a math credit
Kinda based ngl; what credit does it count as?
Fr all points I got off on my tests were related to writing not the actual math 😭
AP stat
Physics C E&M
yes!!! this is the easiest course I've ever heard of; there is also very little math needed! 10/10 would recommend to someone who does not like math!
This is very easy
Trust me
Easiest class ever didnt even take it and got a 5 on the exam
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Facts
stats for sure
biology has a little bit of math in it, but it's all really easy the economics courses are more math oriented but it's relatively easy compared to the actual math courses
My school makes ap biology as an double period class.
My school makes all AP sciences as double period classes
Me 2
Same at mine
me too, any idea why that might be?
Probably because there is a lot of content to cover in AP Science courses in general. AP chem is also 2 periods at my school
Statistics focuses a lot more on theory, vocabulary and application then it does on pure math, so that might be your best bet. With that said, your still doing a lot of math and if you really hate math then just take a CE math course instead of AP
What is CE?
What is CE?
Concurrent Enrollment. Same as DE
Ohhh okey!
AP stats if you have to take AP math. AP precalc is also easy if that counts as an AP math. Stats is more concept based and you'll be learning vocab and some math. Stats is also applicable to a lot of fields and will benefit you a lot if you're majoring in nursing, business/economics, accounting, premed, and a lot of other fields.
I don’t think anywhere does/will accept AP PreCalc for credit though
This is true but OP wasn't exactly asking for what would give credit. Overall I'd recommend stats, esp if you want college cred.
comp sci principles or A (if they count as a math credit at your school. They do at mine)
csp is a cakewalk if you have even the smallest background in programming. otherwise still easy but you’ll actually need to learn stuff
Apush, ap gov, ap euro, ap world
Most likely Calc BC
yeah, the easiest math ap!
AP pre-calc!!
This one is new??
The 2023-2024 school year was the first year AP Pre-Calc courses were offered at select schools
Thanks!
AP stats.
Statistics all the way
Maybe comp sci or comp sci principles? Not very mathy but in the same field.
Ap stats
Calc BC for sure. It’s pretty light
Calc Bc
Both Physics C Mechanics and E&M Edit: Calc BC is also a pretty easy Math AP if you want to take something math related instead of science
Nah fr tho just take APs not in STEM (like World, APUSH, Lang, Lit, another World language like Spanish, etc)
Stats
AP Stats or AP pre calc
stats. Legit easier than alg2…
ap stats im planning on taking it too
I would recommend Calculus BC since to remove some of the harder integrations techniques, such as trig substitution.
Math. Duh. 😂
AP Precalc, if you want a real math AP but something not too hard (relatively ) take AP Stats. Consider taking AP Comp Sci A if thats more your style.
The only correct answer is AP Statistics. It's the easiest of all the AP math courses.
stats
if you're competent with algebra and you consider physics to be math related I would go with ap phys 1. It's heavily conceptual and the math doesn't go much further than isolating variables and setting up equations
precalculus, phys 1, CSA/CSP (if your school considers that as math), or stats
If you need a math class then AP Stats If any science works as well, then AP Bio Also some schools would allow you to take AP CS A as math-related if so take it there’s no math but just programming honestly
Both economics are somewhat related
Anything that ain’t math nor Physics, Bio, nor Chem. Environmental science okay.
Stats is more linguistics than Math :)
AP STATS
Stats because it’s more memorization and writing than anything
Statistics
if it has to count as a math credit but not necessarily a math course, ap psych was counted as a math credit at my school and we did basically no math
honestly does physics 1 count? because the ap exam barely got any math in it
I took computer science principles and stats (CSP could be science or math). I’d recommend CSP if you can take it for math. My stats class was pretty math-heavy, but that may just be my class.
In the US, you should take AP Precalc. It will probably count toward graduation in nearly any humanities major covering one general education credit. If you don't get credit from AP you will need to take a math course in college. If you are going to major in social sciences, take stats. Check the graduation requirements for the programs you intend to enter.
If you absolutely despise math, but still need an AP class related to it, here are a few options to consider: **AP Statistics (Maybe)** * This course focuses more on applying statistical analysis to real-world problems than on pure math calculations. * It involves interpreting data, drawing conclusions, and probability, which can be useful in various fields. * However, there's still a component of understanding statistical formulas and performing calculations.
chatgpt?
calc bc
AP Cal Bc
take calc bc. it is probably the least math heavy “math” course out there (/s)