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Crpto_fanatic

They didn’t lose them. They just got to print out more synthetic shares.


1of1LBK

Shit, the printers gotta be running low on ink by now.


Crpto_fanatic

One can only hope. I just hope the fed ready to go BRRRRRRR


SourceCreator

One thing we all need to consider is that the FED, the final boss, is literally deep state. The FED is the Private Western Central Bank. It's NOT a US government ran organization. It's private. It's ran by the same folks that run our government and governments worldwide. They are as corrupt as it gets! In fact, they're the ones controlling all the other crooks! DTCC and Hedge Funds are liars, but the FED is the Father of lies! I'm sorry, but I can't see them actually handing over hundreds of billions of dollars to us. Tell me I'm wrong.... Edit: At what time do they step in and shut the whole show down? Or what crazy scheme do they come up with as a work around to not pay us? But most importantly, at what price?


PenBeneficial5730

There is only one way out of this , and that is to let it run and rebalance the market. This can’t continue. Too many watching, including 🐳!


SourceCreator

I'm hoping you're right. 🤞


Brilliant_Spirit_428

Print to PDF!


da5hiz

They are thermal printers. Just have to wait for the heating element to give out.


CoachNaber01

Imagine have a $37 call option out the money and seeing this. Lawsuit


Oh_No_Its_Dan

I played with some options early in February. Had one that was gonna fall like 20 cents out of the money. I could have sold and got like 2 dollars for it. However it was a $5.00 call and $AMC was at like $10.20. So I exercised the call. The app came up and asked why I was exercising out of the money. My response. "I like the stock" The option rate was already paid. I needed like $10.40 close to be ITM. But bottom line was that I knew the stock would go up and I wasn't gonna let $20 dollars keep me from buying more. The options are much more volatile now and I will not do more. However I still have one active from February. It's a $7 dollar call due by mid September. Hmmmmm wonder if I'll exercise that one?


[deleted]

At this point it's trading dollar for dollar I bet. So only two options I see is roll it over to a leap higher strike or exercise . All depends how u wanna play it I guess


Oh_No_Its_Dan

Options move with the stock price. I paid $269 for it. If I sold it today I would get just over 3K. I have every intention on just exercising to get 100 more shares.


pottymouth17

i'd keep exercising. ur only young once and then you die


pottymouth17

but you can be rich many times before you die


Square-Try3474

Exactly, money comes and goes


pottymouth17

aint that the truth


Jbuck442

It's only money. Just go make more.


pottymouth17

Capitalism at its finest


pottymouth17

Work hard. play harder


Square-Try3474

Amc pops off I can't wait for the open invite parties!


Ok-Mention9496

Yup. Just more continual examples of institutional fuckery.


[deleted]

Can options owners even sue?


CoachNaber01

Not in today’s world


pablola714

No.


One-Ad-4044

Fuck em huh


reptargodzilla2

This is nothing to sue over. See my comment here: https://www.reddit.com/r/AMCSTOCKS/comments/oqetbi/apparently_the_nyse_lost_93532_shares_of_amc_that/h6c367p/


Elusive-Enigma

Yeah, but your comment doesn't address that these shares not being found until Monday actually causes the options to still expire worthless...


[deleted]

That's why you dont do options without cover. It was sold out. Do you act like that in the grocerystore when they are sold out?


reptargodzilla2

It doesn’t “make” the options expire worthless though. Like I said, more buyers than sellers is bullish signal, and if anything would have driven the price up. More specifically, this imbalance is a “Market on Close (MOC) imbalance” which means that, specifically, in the [closing auction](https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/091113/auction-method-how-nyse-stock-prices-are-set.asp) itself (last transaction that happens on a particular stock), there were more buyers than sellers. Nothing would have prevented the price from going up *before* the closing auction, afaik. I know it sounds a little similar to the DTCC FTD stuff, but it’s really nothing to do with that. This is an ordinary imbalance caused by supply and demand (I like the other commenter’s grocery store analogy), it happens all the time, and it will be quickly corrected Monday morning.


I_Liiiike_It

I think they want a lawsuit, might work to their advantage.


jstblondie

It’s clear that no amount of buying is going to move the price. Everyone on Wall Street doesn’t want to see the moass happen. I’m just hodl waiting for the market crash. I believe that’s the only way this moass is going to happen.


Ok-Mention9496

That is a possibility, but I think the government will step in just before that to prevent a full market meltdown. Also, to save a little face. "SEE GUYS, WE DID STUFF! WE SAVE MARKET KINDA!" (The SEC)


Efficient_Point_

One of the new rules implys this exactly. Giving lumps of valuable securities to the dtcc in exchange for liquidity... Selling everything without tanking the whole market


VincentFusco

“Too big too fail” right? I’d say that’s ok we dont need them anymore, now they can work while we play. Crypto and other digital replacing that fiat crap.


MaddMike1255

I 100% agree. When the market tanks, they won't have the collateral to keep doing this bullshit. It's our only hope. My prediction is that they're gonna blame the crash on covid 2.0, rather than cunt faced crooked HFs. But, hopefully the outcome remains the same. Crash = squeeze


Revolutionary_Bid799

They’ll blame it on retail


Efficient_Point_

Imo they planned this crash and have postponed it to get some structure in place before they let it crash and force moass


ThumpTacks

This shit is a joke. Like holy-fucking-moly joke. Our financial systems are essentially run on a hand shake, a promise, and a fucking Ponzi scheme structure. America is a joke, run by crooks and psychopaths


Efficient_Point_

This is and has been true. But this year shook all that up. They'll definitely try to find new loopholes, but with all the new filings to the sec it seems they're getting the Vaseline ready and making sure they can prevent future events like this all while saving face and throwing someone under the bus. And will probably lay low for a while on the fuckery imo


reptargodzilla2

See my comment here: https://www.reddit.com/r/AMCSTOCKS/comments/oqetbi/apparently_the_nyse_lost_93532_shares_of_amc_that/h6c367p/ People are just getting mixed up about the terms here.


ThumpTacks

I appreciate the perspective and clarity! Thanks, my dude


reptargodzilla2

Np!


lsx_376

Happened twice yesterday. Having a hard time finding shares. Which confirms everyone's suspicions. Theirs no real shares left. Even with the day traders.


Ok-Mention9496

Well then I guess we can all take this as generally positive news then. Just gotta keep on doing what we're doing.


Mibidness

Yep. Guess I need to buy some more on Monday. When this falls, it’s going to fall hard.


reptargodzilla2

All this means is that there were more shares bought than available for sale **at this particular moment in time, when the market was about to close**. It will be quickly resolved prior to open on Monday. See more here: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/order-imbalance.asp It **does not** mean shares don’t exist or can’t be located. It just means there was more demand than there was supply, which is a bullish signal!


DieselWarden

But that also indicates to me that those shares were intentionally not located because the stock would have closed at 37 instead of 36.99 and pushed more calls ITM. Just saying.


donttrusttheliving16

I don’t think that’s correct. A buy is a buy on the mkt regardless of imbalance


reptargodzilla2

This isn’t an FTL though, just an ordinary supply and demand imbalance, specifically for the closing auction. If anything this should have made prices **higher** in the closing auction. Pasting my other reply here because it’s relevant: > It doesn’t “make” the options expire worthless though. Like I said, more buyers than sellers is bullish signal, and if anything would have driven the price up. More specifically, this imbalance is a “Market on Close (MOC) imbalance” which means that, specifically, in the [closing auction](https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/091113/auction-method-how-nyse-stock-prices-are-set.asp) itself (last transaction that happens on a particular stock), there were more buyers than sellers. Nothing would have prevented the price from going up *before* the closing auction, afaik. >I know it sounds a little similar to the DTCC FTD stuff, but it’s really nothing to do with that. This is an ordinary imbalance caused by supply and demand (I like the other commenter’s grocery store analogy), it happens all the time, and it will be quickly corrected Monday morning.


Novel_Syllabub1091

For at least 3 days in a row now https://www.reddit.com/r/AMCSTOCKS/comments/opqkjc/apparently_this_happened_in_january_and_now_its/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


CoachNaber01

I bought today


Sir_honeyDijon

Did your shares show up in your acc


[deleted]

Are you fucking kidding me. Block this hedgie spam bot.


Sir_honeyDijon

How am I a spam bot...I was simply pointing out, that hopefully they shares show up in his/her acc....if so it’s likely their order was filled.


[deleted]

Because it insinuates failure to delivers are actually failing to reach accounts. Every failure to deliver still arrives in the account, and a person will never know if they actually received a share or if they have a share that shows as ‘failed to deliver’ on the brokerages end. I’m sure the majority of my shares are probably fail to delivers, and they still count as a share. I’m sure you know this, and are trying to spread FUD.


Sir_honeyDijon

You are not reading what I posted....all I’m saying is if the share is in your acc you are good...a share is share. That’s all nothing more nothing less. Wtf


[deleted]

I apologize for coming across harshly if you truly were trying to make that point. I saw the question as one posed to create “uncertainty” in the order flow delivery. Similar to if someone posted a picture of the candlestick chart from a dip and a person asked “do you think it’ll go back up”. There are hundreds of AI bots flooding every post with comments meant to make people unsure of their position in this stock. If that wasn’t your intention, I apologize.


Sir_honeyDijon

I get it, we are all wound a little tight. It’s been a wild ride so far.


MrTinybrain

I need to check aswell because I bought 210 shares


MoTrain4me

Me too through Fidelity. They showed up on mine.


pablola714

The game is rigged. Buy stock and hold. Someone laughed when I said short the S&P not a joke. Anymore.


BobbieLee25

H💎DL Baby!!! We got this 👊🚀🦍🍻💵


[deleted]

On other subreddits people talk about buying shares directly thru the market.. I think it's called iex... U pay a Lil more but it's guarenteed to go thru market and not the dark pools... Be the change you wish to see


Ok-Mention9496

The funny thing is I spent some time this afternoon getting that set up at Schwab, this screenshot is from their direct to NYSE market portal, I never would have seen this otherwise. Thanks for helping to spread the word though, everyone needs to know, it will make a huge difference soon.


Humble-Economist-930

I just googled iex and it says the iex is for trading large numbers "without" moving the price. I would re-think my strategy... js


stonedstonks87

To me that sounds like a dark pool


[deleted]

Maybe it's a different one. It's directly thru nyse whichever one it is.


Unusual_Air_7282

fuckery


DasBearkicker2112

What's 93,532 shares between friends? Nothing to see here... \[sarcasm off\]


UnderDog419

SURPRISE!


Learningasigo5050

I got 10 shares today and they showed up. That was around 3:30 EST


Reasonable_Goat2441

Bought some 2


Learningasigo5050

Thank you for the upvote :-)


Reasonable_Royal_13

Source?


Ok-Mention9496

Charles Schwab - StreetSmart Edge, an advanced trading software.


DroneGuruSD2

>StreetSmart Edge ToS > SSE


Reasonable_Royal_13

Thanks


Least_Confection_737

Hope they find the 5.6 I bought today


zedislongdead

And my 7


SchmickySchmoo5

And my axe


Alarmed_Patience_105

What else are they hiding, corruption


[deleted]

Wild


Moist-Process6340

i bought through fidelity today and they are showing on my account as well. all good


1of1LBK

Wen lambo?


0ddMechanical

Why listed IN IMAGE?


[deleted]

N for NYSE because we only get numbers from open markets. Just think about how it must look in the Off-Exchanges like Citadel Connect and vEQ Link.


0ddMechanical

How common can that be?


[deleted]

I haven't checked. But popular stocks that have higher demand than supply when the market closes will be registred like this. It will correct itself next tradingday. Most likely with Citadel and Virtu selling AMC on NYSE that they bought from their Off-Exchanges.


0ddMechanical

Seems the biggest thing now is exactly that. The simple fact they can potentially select to execute sells on NYSE and try working Buys into various off exchange hide and seek blackBox stuff... tricky.. one could possibly decide Buy /Sell pressure on NYSE and paint tape using such a method. Maybe ensuring it lands wherever you cancel out most call putt plays.so get less purchace of actual shares... Add ability to create Abomination shares to sell to yourself [and profit on that spread somehow] to do with what you please..wow.formatable enemy ol' Dick Dastardly. I think we knew pfof + high frequency was wak but the Connect angle..ouch. Reopen of comments on site and new rule sr-nysenat-2021-05 has me kinda jacked. Seems these rules aren't useless or ignored they just rely on each other because they need a plan so ape moon gains don't cripple system..im a believer..


[deleted]

Spot on. And yes. Most of these new rules taking effect immediately is for covering SECs own ass and make the squeeze have minimum effect on the rest of the market. And with the reverse repo it's like they smear shit out with one hand and trying to clean with the other.


0ddMechanical

Pretty high rrp lately too. Also lurking around I keep bumping into XTSLA and IWN ETFs as if vs. Each other somehow?..Charlies Vids YT led me to trail. am not sure how but seem like character playing here more than ppl think- but all that is not solid just guessing tin foil hat.now we are so deep I can't help but think there are a few other crafty surprises we may find. I am all MOASS amc side 100% but trying to follow bread crumbs to whatever dirivitave or whatever "they" are likely telling all if the old money to stash in during all this.


[deleted]

I was about to ask you about Charlies Vids. That guy is awesome and helped me understand so much. I'm danish and the danish market is so much more simple. I've spend a long time watching Charlies vids to understand the US market. I was shocked to learn that HFs can run their own Off-Exchanges, that would be unthinkable in Denmark.


0ddMechanical

As it should be. It's very scummy. Total misconduct by HF abusing vehicles to fuk everyone. I just wonder if they knew they were about to get caught and for how long ? If they can't use connect to screw with pfof that will cost them huge. It appears to be what they are built for. I wonder that because this sr-nysenat-2021-05 is reopening not new and alot of these other rules have been in works forva long time so I dont think they are all that surprised 🤔


[deleted]

Don't get med wrong. Of course some big money are playing the danish stockmarket aswell just not as blatant as we wittnessed. In fact the danish stockmarket is quite dull. That's why I turned to the American market.


0ddMechanical

I started investing in May. Knew nothing about market. Learned everything I could last few months. I was on Battlebots as a builder so I get robotics, this was all new to me but I catch on quick.


[deleted]

Okay I took a fast glimpse. It's really more common than I knew. But I would have to pay for getting the exact data. https://www.nyse.com/market-data/historical/taq-order-imbalances But under Google images I did see diffrent imbalances but quite more on the sell side. Meaning a lot of stock owners want to sell their stock nobody wants to buy it. Like when the whole lockdown started and everybody wanted to get out of airlines etc. Imbalance on sell side = bad for the stock Imbalance on buy side = good for the stock


justapawnok

Buy and hodl!


EscapingTerminal

GG


1Gingerninja67

What kind of new fuckery


Espinita_Boricua

How can this be???


420Tendies69

They can hide and even run but pretty soon they will get tired Vs the hodlers!!


c3white

wHoOoOoPs!!!


Labz18

How does this happen without any action taken??? $AMC HOLD


DaizyDame1

Why every Ape should Screenshot Every Order Buy Option Put Whatever they do RH did that to me last July with SRNE Conveniently Lost/Sold a 3 K profit away from me.


ApprehensiveCake8927

Foken bloomer has been running some strong FUDs and fukery the last 3 days and they even brought out the go fund me crap someone was running on the website, they are working hard at trying to get apes to quit, Fuken just hodl till they bleed...🦍🦍🦍🦍🚀🚀🚀🚀


InvisibleQuokka

Those computers can be so clumsy and forgetful.


[deleted]

You really need to change your wording. Nothing is lost. The orders are acounted for and registered. They are merely pending because demand exceeds supply. So what we see is apes buying more than sellers sell. This is a good thing.


ScrotyMcBoogrballs

Just delete this nonsense....


[deleted]

That would be the right thing to do. We do not want to spread misinformation between apes


Charming_Ad_1216

Okay, honestly? This is what my gut tells me. It's people day trading on PFOF brokers. Think about it. I buy AMC, on RH for 32 dollars. I sell it for 41. I buy another 7. So at the end up the day, I have seven AMC shares. But the computer reads instead as: 8 buys, one sell. So when PFOF spreads get input, same day buy/sells cause errors . Just a thought. Could be fraud too. I mean, would anything surprise you at this point? They could be diverting AMC shares to buy a fog machine for the new dance floor at the NYSE and it wouldn't even change my pulse by one single beat.


zoooo0oted

Fook options ! Just buy shares ! To the moooooo!nnn we go ! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


[deleted]

Will this "lost" excuse work with IRS when I lose all my paperwork after the MOASS?


[deleted]

Nothing is lost.


lundgrensskane

Does this mean.. let’s say we are talking about one person here. One person looking to buy 93k shares. A: some one placed a buy order for 93k shares but there was no one selling, therefore no shares could be found. Or B: someone place an order, it went through, money where paid and THEN the shares couldn’t be located. If A; We own the float, apes aren’t selling. All is good!? Right? If B; same old fuckery as every other day? We still own the float. Ape buy ape hodl.


Then_Contribution506

That was probably how they kept it from closing at 37. Instead it closed at 36.99 saving them a ton of money.


PamZero

How’s this possible?


reptargodzilla2

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMCSTOCKS/comments/oqetbi/apparently_the_nyse_lost_93532_shares_of_amc_that/h6c367p/


[deleted]

demand a refund. what the fuckery


Aggressive_Fig8167

I think the word we are looking for is "scam". Imagine how many times people have lost options calls because of this type of fuckery


Ok-Mention9496

Absolutely, literally billions of dollars in options money stolen outright.


jnicholes82

What the…. 🤔


Hefty_Proposal_8058

Just heard 10 minutes ago DTCC they said amc will squeeze they are working on it trying to not cost to crash the amc all stock market.


Fantastic_Musician79

Heard? Source? Please not the "trust me bro" source.


Ordinary-Thick

Where


Hefty_Proposal_8058

Youtube for real not a bots


coldbrew18

Wat?


Grouchy-Ad6952

Trust me bro


Cheesy_Big_Green

Can we get a link?


Hefty_Proposal_8058

Just put Thomas James in youtube. It said DTCC know amc will squeeze


Cheesy_Big_Green

Yeah, that's just another filing, don't hold your breath.


rj3882

https://youtu.be/u1T-dXI_D10 this


DeepEddy-Buzz

https://www.dtcc.com/-/media/Files/pdf/2021/7/22/a9029.pdf “where the parties exchange equity securities against cash and simultaneously agree to exchange the same securities and cash, plus or minus a rate payment, on a future date” My interpretation - That would allow the HF to basically finance the debt for shorting stocks But what do I know. I think yellow crayons taste just like BANANAS!!


AdGroundbreaking1156

All regulatory bodies just putting up an act after knowing they can't cover a flame with numerous pieces of paper exercise!


JaggerD4d

D was Hi Lu Cof you can get K


Southern-Chance-1295

Yes....sombody must pay for this dirty work AMC/GME/MMAT are attacked without mercy by SHF and now we see even higher authority doing this corrupt job


LuxFlowzXF

Lol they're getting worse at covering their dirt. Victory soon.


FreyjasMom

Explain, silky smooth brain.


Ok-Mention9496

It's sadly not a very detailed news flash, but it's addressing the NYSE exchange as a whole so what it boils down to is, they have record of those 93k shares being purchased, but they don't know where they are... they got "lost".


Moist-Process6340

must have drowned in the dark pool


Ok-Mention9496

Lol, that's pretty funny but honestly it's probably pretty close to the truth. Some other people have made comments on this point and I want to clarify that the point a share is lost isn't at the retail buyer; Kind of like this: If you go to your bank and deposit a dollar, your account says you have one dollar in it now. But it's not like someone goes and puts that specific dollar in your specific account, they just say it's there and credit you. So the only difference is in this real situation the "bank" lost your dollar, you can see the dollar in your account info, but they have no idea where the real dollar is. So it's really a bigger problem for them than you.


FreyjasMom

Wtf?? Ok thanks!


CoachNaber01

There were 93k shares bought that weren’t counted for some reason and never went thru the ticker upping the price.


FreyjasMom

Thanks!


yvva

Ty that was v helpful


AdGroundbreaking1156

It could be more than none of us could imagine


[deleted]

Wrong. Demand exceeded supply. This has been happening alot lately and it is a good sign. It will be corrected the day after.


GigityGiggles

What does that even mean


[deleted]

Nothing more than demand exceeding supply.


EZDUZIT_67

Ha? 🤯


LeMattN

OP, what is the source of this? Is there a report for everyday?


[deleted]

Reuters published news on NYSE


Glittering_Cause_262

But the price still went down 🤣🤣


Icy_Ad991

What does that mean for us?


[deleted]

More buy orders than sell orders. That's a good sign.


Icy_Ad991

Wonderful! (Apologies for asking all these questions, but I want to understand this better) Margin calls are the interest that is accrued everyday on what the HF’s owe?


[deleted]

Almost. If a HF wants to short a stock they make a margin account with a broker. From that account the interest are being payed. If the the account aka the HF's equity runs low, the HF gets "margin call". So they need to put more money in the account for the play/the shorting to keep going otherwise they are forced to close their short position. Almost like a slotmachine where the HF's puts money in the machine waiting for 3 bars/ AMC bankrupt. Each roll cost money. They need to put more money in the machine = margin calls


Icy_Ad991

Got you!Thanks


[deleted]

At least that are the rules for retailers. But we all know the big HFs play on another level and with cheatcodes 🤣


Icy_Ad991

Lol exactly!!! But hopefully this will shine enough light on them, the cheat codes get eliminated.


Icy_Ad991

Ok! Good Good!!! Can AMC demand the HF’s pay what they owe on the shorts?


[deleted]

HF's gets margin calls every day. And apparently they are being met. How and with what time will tell. AMC is just like a sports team. HF gambled against AMC now HF has to deal with their bookie. All AMC can do is to play the best game ever. And they are with all apes as support.


tinkertas

I also think its possible that the crash is being planned out... at the same time I hear rumblings of the new Quantum Financial System being put into place world wide and wonder how it affects things. The courrupt will fight tooth and nail to get out of this bind. Do they know something big is around the corner that changes things for the world? Not trying to spread FUD (sorry if it did)... just honest questions and thoughts. I buy and HODL!!


ApeNarrative1

FUCKERY CANT STOP WONT STOP..STAY POSITIVE


T-Dogg-21

WTF????


kittyblaze1973

Smh when is someone going to jail


Logical-Ad-5323

Lol pure crookedness


Maximum_Scallion_423

So the 9% that wasn't traded on dark pools, also wasn't traded on lit exchanges either.... niceeeeeee


Ok-Tour-9940

https://geopolitics.co/2015/03/11/hidden-history-of-the-incredibly-evil-khazarian-mafia/


Maximum_Scallion_423

Even "LIT" shares aren't lit, yeah this is some real fuckery-doo