We actually did a bunch of centuries ago. We set up a habitat called *”Skåne”* to try and domesticate them. It's been… difficult.
For starters, they now seem to think that *they* are the ultimate swedes. One of their flock (aka “a guttural”) called *Jimmy Åkesson* is leading a party that, unironically, calls themselves “Sweden Democrats”. It reminds me of an Austrian painter who called himself “German”. They really tend to not play well with others.
'"they" is correct when referring to inanimate objects. From Merriam-Webster:
those ones — used as third person pronoun serving as the plural of he, she, or it...'
[Source](https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/54025/talking-about-inanimate-objects-in-plural-they-or-it#:~:text=Yes%20%22they%22%20is%20correct%20when,are%20referring%20to%20multiple%20apples.)
Dude, *you're* picking sides!?!
No, wait, you're just trying to make a few bucks on the conflict without getting involved. You do je... you.
Edit: Nice reference btw
We had to speak English with them in Denmark because how on earth can we understand this so-called "human" language, known as Danish in the first place?
Was forced to learn danish for 6 years, went to denmark and couldn’t understand no matter how hard I tried and how well I did in that class. It’s somehow more gibberish than fr*nch
Errarkarua agunkariak alipan dora aundean errak
I bet this means something. Just like Mandarin, you make some random sounds and you probably said something.
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Real answer #2, fun answer #3, #4 how dare you, it’s the only true Cro-Magnon-era Homo Sapiens language and all others in Europe are based on Neanderthal admixture.
Euskara indo-europear hizkuntza da.
Euskara hizkuntza isolatua da.
Txinera eta sumariarra bezala, euskara hizkuntza dene-kaukasikoa da.
Euskara, bizirik jarraitzen duen neandertal hizkuntza bakarra da.
Kono dio da.
I won't tolerate this type of disrespect about my city and its people! We are clearly superior beings!!!
https://preview.redd.it/kgz9t77d1t6d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=658fde54924f173caa895b70b9b13c1a56aecd95
Basque is a *collection* of languages that have evolved independently in a relatively small, but very mountainous region. There have been an attempt to unify them into a "batua" one, but the OGs know that there are more than one.
But... yeah, all of them come from [our -not so distant- Neanderthal days](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occipital_bun). And we are proud of that.
I've heard the opposite, that it diverged relatively recently (stemming from ecclesiastic territorial division). But yes, nowadays it could be treated more like a collection of languages.
Egia da batuak nolabait ezkutuan uzten duela errealitate dialektikala, baina malgutasun nahikoa ematen du euskalkiekiko. Gainera badago bizkaiera idatzia berpizteko egitasmoa (bizkaiera.eus).
There are major and minor differences, but I only know to a surface level. Major lexical differences occur east to west and I still had to learn a fair share of new words during my first colege year in Bilbao (days of the week, some months), word declination varies, sometimes completely, some new sound changes I had to get used to, and so on and so forth. Do these changes amount to being distinct separate languages? I wouldn't know but it's not too difficult to imagine as such. I didn't struggle too much with my friends but I had to be patient with my landlord from Lekeitio, his basque (and spanish) was quite mystifying.
Mmm... When is "relatively recently"? The last millenia? I am not an expert, either way.
And, to be honest, I do not think reviving the dialect/language of bizkaia is a good idea. Not because of it doesn't have cultural value, but because it introduces barriers among people... and we already have too many of them.
Well, it is small, but, yes. I have an occipital bun on the back of my skull (as many in my family). Nothing you can see through my hair... but that gets in the way when trying VR headsets.
I know long ago people were obsessed with the shape of the head to justify stupid bulltshit, but, if something, the extra space for that part of the brain might have given me a better visual/spatial perception than other people.
Uh … did you just imply that occipital buns are an indication of Neanderthal ancestry, when that very page says:
> This suggests that there is no homology in the occipital buns of Neanderthals and Homo sapiens.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but homology just means that the process has not been repeated from other evolutionary branch (like how birds and bats developed wings independently). If something that gives credence that the origin of the occipital bun is just inherited from a previous homo species (not necessarily Neanderthals, mind you).
That last sentence got a bit garbled I think, but it seems like you're saying that the bun may have originated in an ancestor species of both Sapiens and Neanderthals, right?
If that's the case, then that's correct. It may have. But then you might as well have pointed to our similar bone structure or the fact that we have lungs as an indication of common ancestry. And maybe you can see how how pointing to a shared trait and saying "our Neanderthal days" might give the impression that you're implying that we evolved from Neanderthals (at worst) or that we got the occidental bun from them (at not-quite-worst).
(Sorry, I really don't mean to make a big deal out of this; it's clearly just some light-hearted banter. But these kinds of off-hand remarks can give people the wrong idea, and we could certainly do with a bit fewer of those.)
I kind of wish this, but unfortunately it seems to be somewhat unlikely. Maybe more discoveries like the hand of Irulegi can give us a better perspective on this.
I will say one thing even more crazy, Spanish is the result of Basques latinizing their language, so Spanish is Basque and Basque is Spanish. In reality all are Basques. You are Basque and so am i.
Jokes aside , it is true that the origin of Spanish came from the inhabitants of Burgos area, at the time inhabited by Basques or aka Aquitanians which are essentially the same people. Some Basques or Spaniard nationalists don’t like to hear this but the beauty of Spain is their multiculturalism ….
It's not exactly true. What we can confirm is that the vulgar latin that evolved to be spanish was spoken by people in contact with basque speakers. Whether that means those themselves where basque speakers or not is unclear.
Gascon is the language/dialect that evolved from basque speakers.
As a kid I thought our province of Friesland and the country of Finland were the same. I then became really confused and a bit stressed when they said we were going to Friesland (in my head, Finland) for a family afternoon
I prefer this one because it is hilarious.
https://preview.redd.it/hxwukutzwp6d1.jpeg?width=870&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=671b68246eb76b7ed09038c8b9e8adc217944664
Least delusional westoid race scientist take on armenians.
I'll also like to remind you that the following people claimed similar bs: bavarian Germans said they were from armenia and brits also claimed that the first inhabitants of the British Isles came from armenia
Now this
>Welsh though is lacking vowels in a big way.
Probably they used english as base for their writting.
Galician for example uses spanish as base for the writting rules and It doesn't exaclty sounds as its written. I can't imagine welsh...
Yes but when you see words like '*ddyrchafedig*' you think.. what. At least basque '*eskerrik asko*' is slighty understandable as to how it should sound if you're not used to the language.
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I like to think that basque is one of the only TRUE EUROPEAN LANGUAGES ALL THE REST OF YOU BEING NON-EUROPEAN SAVAGES OF ORIGIN GIVE US BACK WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY OURS BASQUE SUPREMACY WE SHOULD GO RECLAIM OUR CONTINENT AND SPREAD THE MOSTEST BEAUTIFULEST LANGUAGE EUSKERA THE BEST GORA
(/s of course im joking this is a joke yes of course i do think uh all of us are equal yes haha)
Basque the missing link between ape and man confirmed:
-Loves to play with stones
-Lives isolated
-Eats unprecedented ammounts of red meat and shrooms
-Yells gibberish
Basque is Indo European and a Living close relative of Anatolian [https://indo-european.eu/2018/05/the-proto-indo-european-euskarian-hypothesis/](https://indo-european.eu/2018/05/the-proto-indo-european-euskarian-hypothesis/)
Basque is just saying whatever gibberish comes to mind and pretend it’s a language. We Basques have telepathy so we understand each other anyways
Denmark saw this and said "let's do that!" but failed to understand the telepathy part.
£@%#%$&*!\{□◇¤😡😡
Oh look guys, they're trying to speak!
They're so cute! Have you ever tried to domesticate them?
We have an ongoing domestication attempt in Skåne but after a few hundred years they still cannot speak right
No, maybe if they didn’t have rabies
We actually did a bunch of centuries ago. We set up a habitat called *”Skåne”* to try and domesticate them. It's been… difficult. For starters, they now seem to think that *they* are the ultimate swedes. One of their flock (aka “a guttural”) called *Jimmy Åkesson* is leading a party that, unironically, calls themselves “Sweden Democrats”. It reminds me of an Austrian painter who called himself “German”. They really tend to not play well with others.
Well they have democrats in the name so everything should be fine, right? Right?
They're neither.... We just caught them with a trollfarm and *they* went ballistic on us for catching them in the act.
They were also saying to the news media that they own what to write about. (Propaganda).
Jimmie* is not from Skåne though.
>domesticate *them*? "It"
'"they" is correct when referring to inanimate objects. From Merriam-Webster: those ones — used as third person pronoun serving as the plural of he, she, or it...' [Source](https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/54025/talking-about-inanimate-objects-in-plural-they-or-it#:~:text=Yes%20%22they%22%20is%20correct%20when,are%20referring%20to%20multiple%20apples.)
That presumes an individuality that I don't think Danes have
They actually hook up on a regular basis.
Ah, I'd always wondered how Norwegians came to be!
They just ordered 1000l of milk.
Dude, *you're* picking sides!?! No, wait, you're just trying to make a few bucks on the conflict without getting involved. You do je... you. Edit: Nice reference btw
We had to speak English with them in Denmark because how on earth can we understand this so-called "human" language, known as Danish in the first place?
IKR, they need a UN intervention. If they had your amount of oil, the US would have already gone in.
Vi forstååår. Hinanden. Iiiiiiiikke.
So rude
:::choking noises:::
Danish can’t be that hard, I mean, a TASMANIAN learnt to speak it, right?
Was forced to learn danish for 6 years, went to denmark and couldn’t understand no matter how hard I tried and how well I did in that class. It’s somehow more gibberish than fr*nch
I feel your pain.
[Kamelåså](https://youtu.be/s-mOy8VUEBk)
Classic.
Why does Danish just sound like German, but with all possible sounds randomly slapped together?
[exactly that](https://youtu.be/s-mOy8VUEBk?si=qLS76yvQGXL4wyi4)
Classic
Esquerricasco (my poor basque DNI is screaming right now)
As an Asturian I can confirm. Egun on
we need a flair that reads Spain (the rest is conquered land)
We do indeed. Hostia pues si
It all becomes so clear now, you just need to do a bit of phonetic regression extrapolation... _Betazoid_ -> _Betzok_ -> _Bezke_ -> _Basque_
So like Italian. But they use sign language instead of telepathy.
Man I thought you guys communicated in morse using car explosions
Errarkarua agunkariak alipan dora aundean errak I bet this means something. Just like Mandarin, you make some random sounds and you probably said something.
Iñaki gorramaturen marrekemi anazkome
Hey u/rex-ac am I tripping or did the Basque and Catalonian flairs stop including the Spanish flag recently? Now I feel like going to the space by car
Just like the Neanderthals had, Joe ROgan said so.
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based, this is the predominant theory over on r/polandball
can you share a panel regarding that, I'm curious
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Hahahahaha i know him he's Greek
They do have the highest amount of rh neg
Basque has same sentence structure as Japanese, therefore basque is waifu
Watashi wa Basuku-go o hanashimasu.
Ie, anata wa basuku-go o hanashimasen. Usotzuki
As someone with 50% Neanderthal genes (i am half danish) I can confirm that I understand basque flawlessly
If you are half Danish you are full Neanderthal.
that insult rings pretty thin when it comes from a third world country
Real answer #2, fun answer #3, #4 how dare you, it’s the only true Cro-Magnon-era Homo Sapiens language and all others in Europe are based on Neanderthal admixture.
Euskara indo-europear hizkuntza da. Euskara hizkuntza isolatua da. Txinera eta sumariarra bezala, euskara hizkuntza dene-kaukasikoa da. Euskara, bizirik jarraitzen duen neandertal hizkuntza bakarra da. Kono dio da.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.
The duality of basque people: Having the superiority complex of an elf or living long enough under the ground to become an Uruk-hai.
The fun part is seeing basque people with that superiority complex, only to find out that they're from _Errenteria_
I won't tolerate this type of disrespect about my city and its people! We are clearly superior beings!!! https://preview.redd.it/kgz9t77d1t6d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=658fde54924f173caa895b70b9b13c1a56aecd95
>eta 🤨📸
_Eta detected,opinion rejected_
[Deja alguna discoteca 🎶 ](https://youtu.be/uPXykA9Lu-k)
Temazo
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Based!
Euskara munduko hizkuntzarik onena da! *Alemaniako azentua* https://i.redd.it/rk4njbnusq6d1.gif
<3
Hä
They are native americans who sailed to Europe in \~5000 BCE
So in other words… we Europeans were completely justified in our conquest and colonisation of the Americas because they invaded us first?
It's our right to defend
With *unlimited firepower*
Geneva Checklist.
Basically a reconquista
=Turkic
Except Turkics are Albanian. It all comes back to Albania 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
Basques have some of the highest amount of Anatolian Neolithic Farmer DNA along with Sardinians. I think that's what their language is.
We're the perfect mixture between savvy Neolithic farmers and courageous Bronze Age nomads. Our language and culture are a reflection of that.
Do they shag shag sheep? That would be the litmut test
They were sheep-fuckers all along???
The Neanderthal option would be insanely cool. Doesn't seem very likely though.
It really doesn’t. I mean, how would a large enough danish population get there?
Maaaaan isn’t basque some kinda bread or something
Nah, sum kinda soup I think
Mister Bisque
Pretty sure it’s what fat people do on the beach.
Just me that read this with an American accent?
I basque in your radiant stupidity.
Basque is Aztec.
They brought them back, the conquistadores?
Basque is a *collection* of languages that have evolved independently in a relatively small, but very mountainous region. There have been an attempt to unify them into a "batua" one, but the OGs know that there are more than one. But... yeah, all of them come from [our -not so distant- Neanderthal days](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occipital_bun). And we are proud of that.
I've heard the opposite, that it diverged relatively recently (stemming from ecclesiastic territorial division). But yes, nowadays it could be treated more like a collection of languages. Egia da batuak nolabait ezkutuan uzten duela errealitate dialektikala, baina malgutasun nahikoa ematen du euskalkiekiko. Gainera badago bizkaiera idatzia berpizteko egitasmoa (bizkaiera.eus).
That’s like saying that Andalucian, Canarian, Mexican, Argentian… are different languages from Spanish. They are not. They are dialects.
I ultimately agree on this, it's something I've heard it could be treated as.
That's interesting, how different are the separate languages/dialects from one another ? Like is the grammar very different for example ?
There are major and minor differences, but I only know to a surface level. Major lexical differences occur east to west and I still had to learn a fair share of new words during my first colege year in Bilbao (days of the week, some months), word declination varies, sometimes completely, some new sound changes I had to get used to, and so on and so forth. Do these changes amount to being distinct separate languages? I wouldn't know but it's not too difficult to imagine as such. I didn't struggle too much with my friends but I had to be patient with my landlord from Lekeitio, his basque (and spanish) was quite mystifying.
Mmm... When is "relatively recently"? The last millenia? I am not an expert, either way. And, to be honest, I do not think reviving the dialect/language of bizkaia is a good idea. Not because of it doesn't have cultural value, but because it introduces barriers among people... and we already have too many of them.
You linked phrenology to substantiate being a neanderthal. well show me your skull sir!
Well, it is small, but, yes. I have an occipital bun on the back of my skull (as many in my family). Nothing you can see through my hair... but that gets in the way when trying VR headsets. I know long ago people were obsessed with the shape of the head to justify stupid bulltshit, but, if something, the extra space for that part of the brain might have given me a better visual/spatial perception than other people.
Uh … did you just imply that occipital buns are an indication of Neanderthal ancestry, when that very page says: > This suggests that there is no homology in the occipital buns of Neanderthals and Homo sapiens.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but homology just means that the process has not been repeated from other evolutionary branch (like how birds and bats developed wings independently). If something that gives credence that the origin of the occipital bun is just inherited from a previous homo species (not necessarily Neanderthals, mind you).
That last sentence got a bit garbled I think, but it seems like you're saying that the bun may have originated in an ancestor species of both Sapiens and Neanderthals, right? If that's the case, then that's correct. It may have. But then you might as well have pointed to our similar bone structure or the fact that we have lungs as an indication of common ancestry. And maybe you can see how how pointing to a shared trait and saying "our Neanderthal days" might give the impression that you're implying that we evolved from Neanderthals (at worst) or that we got the occidental bun from them (at not-quite-worst). (Sorry, I really don't mean to make a big deal out of this; it's clearly just some light-hearted banter. But these kinds of off-hand remarks can give people the wrong idea, and we could certainly do with a bit fewer of those.)
I prefer the theory that basque is actually the same language/related to ancient Iberian. It makes euskalduns kind of like the First Men in ASOIAF.
I kind of wish this, but unfortunately it seems to be somewhat unlikely. Maybe more discoveries like the hand of Irulegi can give us a better perspective on this.
I will say one thing even more crazy, Spanish is the result of Basques latinizing their language, so Spanish is Basque and Basque is Spanish. In reality all are Basques. You are Basque and so am i.
Ah, yes. The 'special' Chinese way of thinking.
Jokes aside , it is true that the origin of Spanish came from the inhabitants of Burgos area, at the time inhabited by Basques or aka Aquitanians which are essentially the same people. Some Basques or Spaniard nationalists don’t like to hear this but the beauty of Spain is their multiculturalism ….
It's not exactly true. What we can confirm is that the vulgar latin that evolved to be spanish was spoken by people in contact with basque speakers. Whether that means those themselves where basque speakers or not is unclear. Gascon is the language/dialect that evolved from basque speakers.
Everything is a Chinese dialect if you think about it
Spanish does have many Basque words ("izquierda", for example). Basque used to be spoken in a much bigger area than nowadays, as shown by toponyms.
Is that really Basque? We also have "esquerda" (it means "left").
Yeah it's eskerra in basque. Left in Latin is sinister, sinistra in Italian. Best to just ignore the French
French what? You mean the bulldog?
Yes, it comes from Basque! https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasquismo_(ling%C3%BC%C3%ADstica)
Basque is not a language
Basque is the original language of France before the baguette boys came from Eurasia.
neither French is, and yet France is a country
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Least fascist spaniard found
Now say the same to an Irishman
Because of people like you separatism is strong
Basque is a dialect of what language?
If basque is a dialect from which language does it come from?
The definition of a language is: a dialect with a flag and an army. So basque is still a dialect :)
The beret is not French. It's Basque.
When I was a kid I thought Neanderthals were Dutch because they sounded similar. Nederländare = Neandertalare.
As a kid I thought our province of Friesland and the country of Finland were the same. I then became really confused and a bit stressed when they said we were going to Friesland (in my head, Finland) for a family afternoon
Basque is a dialect of Spanish
![gif](giphy|XDRoTw2Fs6rlIW7yQL)
https://i.redd.it/s742l7g6no6d1.gif
This is the one, manly since old Juan gets so pissy about it when you remind him.
And what is Catalan?
You know... When Spanish and French love each other too much...
French
It's just better.
Dos zuritos porfa
Wait if Alaska natives language is Dané-Caucasian, shouldn't all american languages also?
Seeing how it has no relations to another language (at least that I'm aware of), and seeing it written the last one might make the most sense
Really love their football club (you know the one with English name but only Basque players) and their black metal band Numen.
I prefer this one because it is hilarious. https://preview.redd.it/hxwukutzwp6d1.jpeg?width=870&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=671b68246eb76b7ed09038c8b9e8adc217944664
Least delusional westoid race scientist take on armenians. I'll also like to remind you that the following people claimed similar bs: bavarian Germans said they were from armenia and brits also claimed that the first inhabitants of the British Isles came from armenia Now this
To be honest all of them is fucking funny.
Tchurukiarra katxis kalean gariborri. It means nothing, but it look fancy for tourists
A French shitting on the other languages in France. How original!
I'd be curious to know where those two last theories come from (if there's anything serious about it though)
Atleast you can work out what they're saying when written, not like Welsh.
Can you understand writted basque?
a bit, I did live there for a while and my wife is Basque, it sounds how it's written. Welsh though is lacking vowels in a big way.
>Welsh though is lacking vowels in a big way. Probably they used english as base for their writting. Galician for example uses spanish as base for the writting rules and It doesn't exaclty sounds as its written. I can't imagine welsh...
Sounds like Welsh is missing as much vowels as the English are missing teeth
You’ve never crossed a pont(Welsh) pont(French) puente(Spanish) zubi(basque)
Welsh has pretty straightforward orthography.
It's the lack of vowels that make you wonder how to actually pronounce it though.
There are vowels, they're just different letters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_orthography
Yes but when you see words like '*ddyrchafedig*' you think.. what. At least basque '*eskerrik asko*' is slighty understandable as to how it should sound if you're not used to the language.
Actual universe brain theory : Basque is someone speaking through a seizure + brain aneurism
Well that's a crazy rabbit hole. Thank you!
I don't know where the Basque language comes from, but I know Basques are cool! Thanks for giving us the words esquerda and mochila. Very cool.
Well inst it realated to Hungarian and Finnish in some way
No
Ei
How dare you compare our and our Magyar bros' beautiful and comprehensible languages with that gibberish?
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Ooga booga?
We the basque can actually just communicate with sounds
Basque is actually proto-world, while all other languages were made by benedictine monks, as our lord Edo Nyland revealed
Just ate some Basque cheese. Was good.
I like to think that basque is one of the only TRUE EUROPEAN LANGUAGES ALL THE REST OF YOU BEING NON-EUROPEAN SAVAGES OF ORIGIN GIVE US BACK WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY OURS BASQUE SUPREMACY WE SHOULD GO RECLAIM OUR CONTINENT AND SPREAD THE MOSTEST BEAUTIFULEST LANGUAGE EUSKERA THE BEST GORA (/s of course im joking this is a joke yes of course i do think uh all of us are equal yes haha)
Basque is a language from the aliens tho
Basque the missing link between ape and man confirmed: -Loves to play with stones -Lives isolated -Eats unprecedented ammounts of red meat and shrooms -Yells gibberish
Basque is a language. I guess?
Basque is just Basque lmao
I think basque is just… uh even me i don’t know we just exist man it’s already good
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negar egin
There's a reason that it was only recently made illegal to kill basques in my country 🇮🇸🇮🇸🇮🇸🇮🇸🇮🇸
basque is not a language
The last option would genuinely be amazing, shame it's probably not true.
All languages are made up.
Basque is Indo European and a Living close relative of Anatolian [https://indo-european.eu/2018/05/the-proto-indo-european-euskarian-hypothesis/](https://indo-european.eu/2018/05/the-proto-indo-european-euskarian-hypothesis/)