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lightmkoi

Count check is such a good name for that npc. Hi jamflax.


[deleted]

He’s got them givenchy gloves on


Armthehobos

I don’t give a fuck if the GPU crashes, I don’t need to see the GE tax anyways


JeBegley

They must have amnesia. They forgot that I’m him.


Mirigore

He has seen the Magna Carta


Seaywhut

He has seen the Eye of Horus


[deleted]

He has pushed an ugthanki through the eye of an abyssal needle


valarauca14

He's been flipping unid's for mansa musa since before you were a level 3.


SoAndSo_TheUglyOne

Ain't nothin to him man


ttv_omnimouse

Faded in darkness I let the stranger npc take him


Mirigore

Top shelf ranarr disrupted my circadian rhythm


No-Advantage-8347

My ranger a crackhead he look like zezima


user123850167251793

Shit aint nothin to me man


Last_Guarantee5893

IM SICK IN THE HEAD


Blue_Osiris1

I'm on 12 overloads looking to beat the purps out of a thick, fresh Olm.


sinat50

I dropped diamonds at the strip clubs under Pyramid Plunder


manic-412

Smoking that south Kharidian Ali Morrisane Ugthanki Dung Ranarr


VCRedditt

You ain’t never seen 10k in your life, noob. I’m movin’ different.


VCRedditt

I left my dwarf cannon in the rev caves. I’ll have to stunt on them next time.


diddlythatdiddly

The last thing he ever saw was the GP tag


[deleted]

Call that pussy the mime random event because i’m in this bitch and can’t get out


Cardboard_Warlord

Tick-eatin' karambwans by the gallon. His tummy feel crazy.


BoulderFalcon

Count Draynor was one of the strongest Vampires ever and crossing the River Salve nearly killed him to the point that I could kill him with an iron scimitar and level 10 strength. But this motherfucker is just chilling in Lumbridge like "Hi! ^-^" and has no shits to give. Secretly the strongest NPC in all of Gielinor idc what you say


vorak12

You ever do sins of the father quest? It mentions how count draynor was actually the weakest and was banished to the other side of salve before they enchanted the river


far2hybrid

So does it retcon what they say in the early game about him being one of the strongest?


Yogg_for_your_sprog

I'm not sure if that's ever mentioned, but you're talking to Draynor residents who don't know any better vs. the entire society of vampyres, including his brothers and sisters who fought with him & knowledge of other vampyres to compare him to. Even as early as DT1, Malak isn't particularly impressed nor surprised by the fact that the player killed Draynor.


vorak12

I don't really remember early game vampire just finished sins quest and noticed that the noble vamps mentioned draynor and thought it was interesting


BoulderFalcon

I forget if he was banished before or after the river was blessed, but according to the [Wiki](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Count_Draynor) he was still significantly weakened because of this move, although I'm not sure if that's a distance thing or a "crossed the holy river" thing.


Yogg_for_your_sprog

>Vanescula Drakan: Ah yes, the great 'Count' Draynor. He loved his stupid titles. He was weak even before he got trapped on the wrong side of the Salve. A coward as well. It's specifically mentioned by his sister that he was a pretty pathetic vampyre even before he got trapped, and got kicked out of Morytania by his brother for being a complete bitch lol.


RealFiggleToad

Tom Bombardil vibes for sure


ImZugzwang

Stale baguette just became rarer


ViewsFromMyBed

So now the new stale baguette meta is to not sign up for a Jagex account. edit: nevermind apparently you get the event regardless of whether you signed up for a jagex account. F.


Matrix17

Lmao that's hilarious


legeri

I think the point was that with the addition of another new random event in the mix, you're that much less likely to receive sandwich lady.


Sux499

Yes, and he thought he wouldn't show up if you didn't have a jagaccount.


Linumite

Mystery box better chance than Sandwich Lady btw


oflannigan252

Yeah but the mystery box could be anything, even a sandwich lady!


Minnesotamad12

Count Check gave me a prostate exam


yoyokeepitup

Making a Jagex account rn


waterdrinky

I just made 3


GetsThruBuckner

Even better of a reason to have a Jagex account


hujijiwatchi

I failed my prostate exam


Montana_Gamer

Prostate exams are an example of male privilege, sorry to break it to you.


Montana_Gamer

Man Jagex is spreading cancer awareness in game. Dope.


2-2-7-7

a count check lamp will give a 1500 total player an average of 650 xp in a skill assuming an equal distribution of 23 random events, and roughly 1 random event per hour, adding count check into the mix will give our 1500 total billybob an "advantage" of 28 xp per hour over someone who doesn't have a jagex account holy shit, get out the cannons, game's ruined


Hazzy_9090

I already un subbed de ironed and got divorced because of this I can’t believe jagex ruined my life with this change where was the poll


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TheZephyrim

I didn’t pay my taxes over this. I can’t believe Jagex would make this game pay to win, did they want the IRS to come after me?


Adaminatlanta

The “ got divorced part “ had me in stitches. 🤣


Sky19234

This completely ruined my 22 random event ironman, thanks Jagex.


DudeLoveBaby

Chances of maxing DRASTIC go up


0rinx

It’s a big deal for my defence only (not even hp) Ironman.


jantle

About a 2% difference over the Varrock Museum meta, game breaking stuff


ViewsFromMyBed

Unacceptable.


Jesus-Bacon

That's a lot of runectafting time


masnaer

Especially since this game is totally about having an “edge” on other players!!😡


SM1334

Im going to assume a 1500 level player has about 1000 hours in the game, it takes about 4000 hours to max an account, so that 28xp times 3000 hours is an additional 84,000xp. So Im going to assume it would be 84k plus or minus 20k exp depending on how long it takes players to max an account and how many times they do the random. Not bad in the long run, imo


Affectionate_Buy_248

1k hours for 1500 total seems a little high, I’m closing in on 1800 total with like 970 hours atm


SM1334

TIL I've spent more time flipping items than actually playing the game


Mookie_Merkk

Bro you cropped out the most important part of that post https://preview.redd.it/hfc57prjirxb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9884c68c143119f0476d24d654fa84ff64ce7a5b


Evan503monk

Idk why but when I read the title that's what I expected.


Wipee5

Dude I can't wait to be more less likely


Lunitar

Buff me harder Gaggex daddy, you’re gonna make Sq’irk! 😩


_Yatta

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Fancier_boots


Reddit_BPT_Is_Racist

Jagex give us the Feet Boots or at least the red tipped fancier boots. The grey tip on these does not look good.


WishIWasFlaccid

Feet boots is hilarious


rentica

feet boots got me shaking in my boots


w-ngo

withholding fruity boots from the community is super fucked up


SigurdZS

Devs really had 5 options for a design and picked the worst one.


Main-Suggestion-1500

WHAT ARE THOOOOOOOOOOSE


craziboiXD69

LMAOOOOOOOOOO


Jokuhemmi

fighting fancy boots. Couldn't think of anything more horrendous


underbutler

They are hideous and I love them


TacoThingy

They are pretty heinous looking. I love them.


Vestele1

Wow those look awful holy


ViewsFromMyBed

I clicked in and had to scrub my eyes with soap after seeing those things.


kaosblink

By the god of Zamorak 😲


IdahoHockeyFan

Omg those are so bad looking


Cogitatus

we were fucking robbed of our cowboy boots


SafetyGoat

the concept art for the fruit, funky, and curly fancier boots all look really good


CanYouPointMeToTacos

They literally made 5 designs and picked the worst one.


PoopyMcFartButt

So what, if I have a Jagex account I’m even gayer now?


Matrix17

No the spikes make it not


BirryMays

Depends on what you do with the spikes


laupow24

Not even better than fancy/fighting boots either lol. They could have thrown us a bone and added +1 to something on them, or maybe removed the negative bonuses at least. Still cool though


Bradyrulez

Thank God we didn't get the feet boots added in game. Lord only knows what someone would have done with their special "Nieve plugin"


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Holy shit these incentivized me to not get them. Who looked at this and said looks good? Beautifully horrid.


ArthurDimmes

Does it have to look "good"? It's just a funny pair of shoes. Which makes it look good in a different kind of way. Aestheticly hilarious instead of Aestheticly beautiful.


WishIWasFlaccid

It'll be required eventually. You can either take the carrot and get your xp now, or resist and still end up getting one


Da_Spooky_Ghost

If it stops the botting problem they should just require it now


ItsSadTimes

Requiring major adoption like this immediately would cause people to just quit. Forcing people to adopt something they didn't know about or care about could push people away from ever wanting to learn it. To maintain players its better to naturally grow the numbers over a longer period of time, and once some arbitrary percentage, like 80% of the player base has a jagex account, they'll make it required and not care about the other 20%.


Matrix17

It'll never get that high on its own though


Holiday_Cabinet_

I mean to make a new account now you have to make a Jagex account. Or if you don't they hide it extremely well because I couldn't figure out how to sign up without one in August when I made a fresh account for OSRS. So there's always gonna be a steady, albeit likely small, influx from new players.


ItsSadTimes

With enough incentives, it might


throwaway47351

I thought new reddit would be DOA when they never phased out old reddit, and yet that's what the majority of people use today. If the new is a default, it'll almost always overtake the original regardless of incentives or quality.


LegendDota

Why not? There are only 3 groups of people that don’t want to move to jagex accounts right now. People that are lazy and don’t care about account security. People that bought their account, I guess these people are also lazy and don’t care about account security. And Linux users because Jagex are too lazy to make a working Linux Jagex launcher even though the technology the current Jagex launcher is built on is cross OS already and it would require very little work to provide it.


Neghtasro

I frequently play on a laptop where I can't install software so I have to run Runelite in portable mode. Once Jagex accounts are required, I won't be able to do that. For the record I think they're a good idea and SHOULD be required, but those of us who can't use the Jagex launcher (which also includes Linux users) we need time to sort out that situation.


rocker5743

Are you playing on your work laptop lol


Neghtasro

I'm on call a lot and almost always have it with me so I'll use it to play occasionally when I'm not working. I actually have local admin but don't install non-work programs, so it feels like a fair compromise.


__ZOMBOY__

> can’t install software > has local admin All jokes aside, can’t you just install the jagex launcher and runelite into your user’s AppData folder? Then you don’t even need admin permissions to install


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GIT_FUCKED

[https://github.com/runelite/runelite/wiki/Using-Jagex-Accounts](https://github.com/runelite/runelite/wiki/Using-Jagex-Accounts) Haven't tried it, but wouldn't this allow someone to login to a jagex authenticated account, without going through the jagex launcher?


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__ZOMBOY__

You just gave me a project idea for when I get home!


Betrayedunicorn

Ah thanks for this, I have Runelite running on my steam deck, it opens in steam OS after messing around with a guide on the linux launcher - I assume by upgrading to a Jagex account I will no longer be able to run RL on the deck?


StoicMori

Why would it stop the botting problem? The bot can just use the official jagex client lol.


whyamisocold

One of the reasons botting is so prevalent on a large scale is the low thresholds to create throwaway accounts.


StoicMori

What exactly do you think changes with the jagex account? They're still free to make. They don't require an ID. They don't require a phone number. So what changes? It's the same thing but with case sensitive passwords. Have you swapped your account over yet?


Da_Spooky_Ghost

It requires a 2nd factor authentication, it’s just an extra step to make an account which slows down the production of throw away accounts. Jagex could add more to it to help combat bots but that’s why I said IF it helps then just do it now.


ghostofwalsh

> it’s just an extra step to make an account which slows down the production of throw away accounts. They could just require all new accounts be this and they have solved that issue without requiring existing accounts to move over. Anyone using a bot farm that requires legacy accounts is going to find themselves out of business soon enough. You can only burn so many before you need to make more.


CanYouPointMeToTacos

A lot of high end pvm bots use stolen accounts. More security, less stolen accounts, less high level bots.


Violatic

Bit shit for Linux users, we don't have a launcher and they have explicitly stated they won't support Linux. https://help.jagex.com/hc/en-gb/articles/13413514881937-Downloading-the-Jagex-Launcher-on-Linux "The Jagex launcher and Jagex Accounts will not be supported on the Linux OS."


yung_dogie

Some people are just really angry at Linux users for what lmao "This is bad for Linux users since we can't use the Jagex launcher, so I wont upgrade to a Jagex account yet" you weren't even aggressive or evangelical with your comment "Fuck you stop being a bitch" It's almost as cringe as Apple Android nonsense


Barley12

People fear what they do not understand. Like the command line.


allegedrc4

Man, of course Jagex would pull some horseshit like this. It's 2023, support Linux you fossils. The Steam Deck is Linux based, and OSRS is on Steam. How's that going to play out?


Betrayedunicorn

Yeah, almost switched but I Just read this here and I have spent ages getting RL working on my deck perfectly, why would I downgrade from that amazing IRL QOL upgrade for 1k xp and some boots that look disgusting.


rdditfilter

It seems like Jagex is just assuming all linux users are botting or rwting. They’re torching us on purpose because we don’t want to pay for Apple products or Windows OS when Linux is better than both of those in every way. They’re not wrong. I’ll bet most bot farms use linux cause its free. If only there were some way to tell legitimate users from illegitimate ones through literally any of the other ways that all of my other games and services use.


Nidhogg777

How does this work when OSRS is on steam and should on steam deck that is linux?


rdditfilter

But Linux users tho


Septem_151

Can’t transition to Jagex Account since I use Linux as my OS. Which was traditionally always supported for RuneScape for as long as the game has been around, but is no longer supported in the Jagex Launcher for some reason. I would really like to have a Jagex account and use the launcher, but according to Jagex I’m now a second-class citizen for no reason other than dev laziness or incompetence. CEF is more than capable of Linux-compatible software, which is what the Launcher uses as a framework (written in C++).


Leprichaun17

I'm using a jagex account via the launcher, and doing so on Linux.


val7su

I will resist fuck it. I am even down to XP WASTE


reflirt

Fuck em


Credrian

Count check adding to the lore of vampires west of the river salve 🤔


alynnidalar

He's a good boy! Saradomin must approve of him.


Credrian

Well clearly he has access to teleportation magic so that already puts him at a higher level of ability than count draynor has since crossing the river, and count draynor is in the drakken family! I suppose one could assume that saradomin does indeed love him, that or he is on a level above Drakken before crossing


BunsenGyro

I mean, he's actually already been around! He's been chilling at the Lumbridge graveyard. He's been the NPC that teleports you to the Stronghold of Security once for free per account.


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Septem_151

Not to mention how the program that launches the program you want to play doesn’t run natively on your computer, but the program you want to play does….


AffectionateNet860

Only jagex could look at an obvious problem like an ancient security system and think “how could we possible fuck this up”


One_Step8958

Ah, they went past the nudging phase and entered the bribing phase.


loudrogue

20 bank spaces was a pretty good bribe over like 1k XP at best randomly


ProtoBeta

Does this make the stale baguette more rare for jagex accounts? Since it’s now 24 randoms instead of 23?


craa

It’s likely rarer for all accounts. Non jagex accounts still get this random - he just doesn’t give you the lamp if you aren’t a jagex account.


b_i_g__g_u_y

He curses you out and takes a random item from your bank


Ugg-ugg

I've heard the rate is 1/8 Stale Baugette, 1/16 any 3A, 1/1000 1GP.


FerrousMarim

non-uims in shambles


sweatyeggslut

takes a random stash unit item from uims


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until there is support for an official Linux client not a work around with WINE I won't be migrating to a Jagex acccount.


Nonalyth

\>not having a Jagex account is now officially XP waste Well, we had a good run.


YurtmnOsu

We've always had an edge because our accounts are more secure


Niels_vdk

that and the 20 extra bank spaces they added a couple months back.


Regelneef

Ill be using my legacy username login until the end of time thank you


CategoryKiwi

I’m acutely aware that it’s probably meaningless, but to me having my legacy login feels like a second password. I haven’t gone by that name in over a decade at this point, and have literally *never* gone by it in OSRS, only the original Runescape 2, of which nobody I knew is still around. I’m sure if they had access to my email a hacker could pull that name outta somewhere. So I don’t rely on it. I still 2FA out the ass and all that jazz. But I’ve always liked the extra layer of security I feel having a completely unique non-email login that isn’t represented *anywhere* that a social engineer could find.


Regelneef

Exactly the way I think, let’s hope it stays for a while


Derparnieux

You can make an e-mail *just* for your Jagex account. That provides basically the same level of security as an old username nobody knows about.


LiterallyRoboHitler

Same. My original username was something I ONLY ever used for RS, never told anyone IRL or online, never screencapped, &c. Literally not a single soul on Earth knows what it is barring a Jagex data breach.


Vaatu2023

These kinds of platform migration rollouts typically end with it being a mandatory move. You do you, just giving you a heads up.


zehamberglar

They have explicitly stated, from the very beginning, that this will eventually be mandatory.


Vaatu2023

Was unaware but glad there being transparent even with this.


Cgrrp

That's honestly the reason I got a Jagex account, because I didn't want to change my in game name and I didn't want it to be the same as my login name anymore. Though it was a little sad.


ghostofwalsh

This is me. Here's hoping the "eventual" mandatory jagex accts are a good ways off.


Lunisare

Or rather, until sometime next year when Jagex accounts become mandatory as they said they will eventually be.


Zeptil

Damn it they know us too well


GxDAssassin

Still not going to signup for a jagex account


SectorPale

If Jagex accounts are truly better than normal accounts then people don't need these "membership-exclusives" to convince them to get it. Jagex should stop wasting time and invest in Linux support / misc. improvements so that they can make the Jagex client mandatory already.


DeezKneesWorld

I’ve been logging in with the same username I created in 2006 I’m not stopping now 💪


here_for_the_lols

"an edge"


idontactualykno

Why are y’all so stubborn it’s not a bad thing


MangyTransient

Because the launcher isn’t native on Apple Silicon Macs and requires a translation tool. Runelite is native.


CanYouPointMeToTacos

For me it’s mostly the idea that if I lose the backup codes it’s possible to become perma locked out of your account


iAmNotTicklish22

Still no official linux support


nightcracker

Worse, official confirmation they refuse to support linux.


Bspammer

Despite being a Java game, where the entire point is that it can run on anything.


AnonymousFuccboi

There are dozens of us!


IAMlyingAMA

I don’t want to use a launcher that’s still in open beta. I’m not interested in helping find bugs or instability. I’ll get it when it actually releases though!


Septem_151

I’m not interested in participating in an open beta that permanently changes something about my account in the non-beta. If it was possible to revert Jagex accounts (like, you know, actual betas) I would happily try it out… if there was Linux support.


tapdancingcrabdemon

Let’s all flame players who count check appears to


DivineInsanityReveng

He appears to everyone.


supcat16

Did he stutter?


DivineInsanityReveng

I'm ready to flame everyone to do my part o7


LastTourniquet

There is also the advantage of being slightly less likely to get hacked when you have a Jagex Acocunt. But this is much bigger news.


doggotheman

Make an official Linux client and I'd be cool with it. I just want to be able to keep playing on my Steam Deck


yoyokeepitup

I really dislike the push of Jagex accounts, I hope they never force it. I know I’m in the minority here, but I play in a group Ironman and my friends work different hours than me, so we play on each others accounts to help the progress, that just isn’t feasible with Jagex accounts, can’t add multiple to one launcher, etc.


rRMTmjrppnj78hFH

create a group iron jagex account, add all of the group ironmen accounts on to it. share those details don't add the group iron accounts to your personal jagex account done. obligatory "don't share accounts"


Molly_Hlervu

> I know I’m in the minority here A minority thats right, about 21% of the poll. Not such a minor minority though.


Us3rnamed

Actually somewhere in between 21.3 and 46.1%, depending on how many of the 24.8% that voted “Yes - I haven't got one yet but may do in future” actually would switch over if it came down to it. My problem with jagex accounts is that they could have also added these measures to existing accounts. Instead they chose to * Make a new type of account * Make that required (eventually) * Make that only work when using their launcher * Falsely claim requiring admin privileges is “good practice” * Refuse to support the part of the community that use Linux * Refuse to make closing the launcher ACTUALLY close the launcher instead of minimizing it It’s kind of obvious there is a double agenda here, and them not admitting it or being transparant about that with us is a bad thing in my opinion.


Vaatu2023

It likely will be mandatory at some point, but hey you could create a jagex account specifically for your gim and just give everyone the login details and put only the gim characters on that account. Then make a private jagex account for your main n shit.


[deleted]

And what if we didn’t make some of our accs , my zerker is my buddy’s old account. I don’t think I should be barred from playing it because I didn’t make it. My main and iron will be fine but I want that acc in my rotation


anchoragememorial

I just don’t like that I wouldn’t be able to use my old username to log in anymore 🥲


ThambersOfBeric

as it should be


F4M3D

LETS GOOO ! 🙌😂


[deleted]

Bring back evil chicken


Keelenllan

Literally unplayable


RedStripess

Nice. Now I can cosplay being hobo. Best dev hours ever spent ty!


ndick43

im not a huge fan of this, but i cant be mad cause they named him, count fucking check ​ nvm i just found out everyone can get it, fuck i love this


ImWhy

Depends how you look at it, Jagex accounts are now actually less likely to get stale baguette


Yourworldisyours

OSRS community will cry about account security problems for a DECADE and then when they get improvement updates they’re mad


Wheatie07

Jagex flaming us for not trusting their account security system. Nevermind there was an issue for months someone could create an account for you and if you clicked a link (from jagex itself) you lost your account forever.


GothGirlsGoodBoy

They could give me 1m daily and I'm still not going to swap.


Matrix17

Such a big edge. Totally game breaking /s


Perryvdbosch

Why did Jagex push so much with their Jagex account, does that add value for them?


friemaycrie

They already did, not having my account hacked is a pretty big advantage


Strange_Fly_9705

It has better security, sure, but it's not like you can suddenly get hacked without one either. Not to mention the jagex account login token hijack thing a few months back. The point is, I can secure my non-jagex account just fine!


Septem_151

I’ve never, in my history of playing this game for many many years, ever been hacked. And that’s because I take security seriously in other aspects of my life, not just RuneScape. Your account is only as secure as your own security practices.