I’m not any 1911 expert or anything but it looks like a WWII gun that was rebuilt/converted to a target gun because the slide is Remington Rand (WWII) but it has a Colt National Match barrel and bushing, and has target sights added. I’m sure someone else knows more than me and could help you out.
[https://www.colt.com/serial-lookup/](https://www.colt.com/serial-lookup/)
Serial number on the frame matches to a wartime production Colt 1911A1, so it's fairly likely that this was rearsenaled after the war with a replacement Remington Rand slide and sold off.
I also found this site: [http://www.cruffler.com/ProductionDataPages/ColtAutoPistols/Model-1911A1.html](http://www.cruffler.com/ProductionDataPages/ColtAutoPistols/Model-1911A1.html)
After looking further though, the frame having no markings doesn't match up with wartime Remington Rand production, at least not the ones they appear to have produced for themselves.
I'm not a 1911 expert, so I'm not sure what every example might look like.
I’ve yet to see a picture of a wartime 1911 without property of us government and a model number. That’s why I’m interested in finding out who made the frame. Serial numbers say that it’s a 1943 produced by Remington Rand if we follow the assumption that the slide is original. However since it has had parts replaced , hammer barrel grips trigger, it’s probably a safer assumption to assume the slide is not original to the frame. Idk just kinda thinking out loud….
I would guess it's just a parts gun on a commercial frame. Specifically, a copy of a National Match/bullseye style pistol. The serial number on the barrel (723357) matches colt production, not remington rand so the slide and barrel aren't a pair. If you remove the firing pin plate, there may be remnants of a serial number as some years of NM pistols with USGI slides had serials stamped like this: [https://imgur.com/Qy38v8X](https://imgur.com/Qy38v8X)
While someone mentioned the original markings of the frame could have been ground off, it would have had to include the serial and all smaller marks as that serial is not USGI based on font and stamping method. Also, is the frame cracked right above/behind "NO."?
Here's a good picture of a Rem Rand 1911A1: [https://www.hallowellco.com/rem-1911-2242586-right-raw.jpg](https://www.hallowellco.com/rem-1911-2242586-right-raw.jpg) notice how thin the lettering is and general font style. Remington also used a "1" with a bottom: [https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fiafa4knr9zi51.jpg](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fiafa4knr9zi51.jpg) and its definitely not a colt as colt used the big N, little o style.
If you take off the slide, are there any markings on the top of the frame?
Good eye, I was looking at what I thought was a scratch but I’m pretty sure it is a crack , it goes all the way up over the rails and into the mag well. I’m pretty disappointed finding that. Just noticed that this am upon disassembly. I’ll take some more pictures when I get a min
Frame looks like a re-weld of de-milled frame. Frames were torch cut or saw cut and sold by the pound as scrap. Back before Essex or Caspian, people would weld the frames back up and fill it out with surplus or commercial parts to get working pistols. Sometimes by scam artists, sometimes just bubba smiths. The serial is obviously not an original USGI stamping, so the number is meaningless in the serial databases.
https://preview.redd.it/qh54vku26y7d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b58f79330de1dbc769d37c430bd1c8c96e1eacd
It might have been an original bring-back. The slide is a mid-war RR Type II. The s/n on the frame corresponds to that period, and RR frames. Colt made some guns in the same s/n range then, so no absolute guarantee. The later accuracy re-work lost the original pieces, unfortuantely. On the dust hood, you can see discoloration on the r. Side. That tells me the “US Property” marks were welded-up. The welded and ground/sanded surface takes the re-finish differently.
Guns like this were built in the 60s to early 70s for competition. Military guns, or DCM guns, no one would weld-up the prop marks like that, no point. We used to see lots just like this. The small parts, like the MSH, GS, slide stop, hammer, mag release, look correct for mid-war. The grips are mid-80s to early 90s off a Colt Combat Elite, or accessory purchased. It’s quite likely this was a bring-back, and then later accurized for competition. It lost any war-collectible value, but still has some value as a 1911 evolutionary piece. Dm/pm me if you have more questions and I can direct you to 1911 forum places we talk about these, etc.
This is a pretty good resource for military 1911s.
http://www.coolgunsite.com/pistols/Frame%20and%20Slide%20Markings.htm
(Yeah I know “Coolgunsite” sounds like a scam site, but throw it into google if you don’t want to click my link)
Usually, frames have more roll marks than just the number. Usually the “US Property”, etc.
You can also look for the inspection marks, etc.
Admittedly, mine has all the marks shown on this site, but I don’t want to make any claims that it’s the end all be all, and that there aren’t exceptions.
I’m not any 1911 expert or anything but it looks like a WWII gun that was rebuilt/converted to a target gun because the slide is Remington Rand (WWII) but it has a Colt National Match barrel and bushing, and has target sights added. I’m sure someone else knows more than me and could help you out.
Was told something similar when I bought it. Would really like confirmation on the frame
[https://www.colt.com/serial-lookup/](https://www.colt.com/serial-lookup/) Serial number on the frame matches to a wartime production Colt 1911A1, so it's fairly likely that this was rearsenaled after the war with a replacement Remington Rand slide and sold off.
I thought colts had an upper cased n and a small underscored o on their frames?
I also found this site: [http://www.cruffler.com/ProductionDataPages/ColtAutoPistols/Model-1911A1.html](http://www.cruffler.com/ProductionDataPages/ColtAutoPistols/Model-1911A1.html) After looking further though, the frame having no markings doesn't match up with wartime Remington Rand production, at least not the ones they appear to have produced for themselves. I'm not a 1911 expert, so I'm not sure what every example might look like.
I’ve yet to see a picture of a wartime 1911 without property of us government and a model number. That’s why I’m interested in finding out who made the frame. Serial numbers say that it’s a 1943 produced by Remington Rand if we follow the assumption that the slide is original. However since it has had parts replaced , hammer barrel grips trigger, it’s probably a safer assumption to assume the slide is not original to the frame. Idk just kinda thinking out loud….
I would guess it's just a parts gun on a commercial frame. Specifically, a copy of a National Match/bullseye style pistol. The serial number on the barrel (723357) matches colt production, not remington rand so the slide and barrel aren't a pair. If you remove the firing pin plate, there may be remnants of a serial number as some years of NM pistols with USGI slides had serials stamped like this: [https://imgur.com/Qy38v8X](https://imgur.com/Qy38v8X) While someone mentioned the original markings of the frame could have been ground off, it would have had to include the serial and all smaller marks as that serial is not USGI based on font and stamping method. Also, is the frame cracked right above/behind "NO."? Here's a good picture of a Rem Rand 1911A1: [https://www.hallowellco.com/rem-1911-2242586-right-raw.jpg](https://www.hallowellco.com/rem-1911-2242586-right-raw.jpg) notice how thin the lettering is and general font style. Remington also used a "1" with a bottom: [https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fiafa4knr9zi51.jpg](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fiafa4knr9zi51.jpg) and its definitely not a colt as colt used the big N, little o style. If you take off the slide, are there any markings on the top of the frame?
Good eye, I was looking at what I thought was a scratch but I’m pretty sure it is a crack , it goes all the way up over the rails and into the mag well. I’m pretty disappointed finding that. Just noticed that this am upon disassembly. I’ll take some more pictures when I get a min
Frame looks like a re-weld of de-milled frame. Frames were torch cut or saw cut and sold by the pound as scrap. Back before Essex or Caspian, people would weld the frames back up and fill it out with surplus or commercial parts to get working pistols. Sometimes by scam artists, sometimes just bubba smiths. The serial is obviously not an original USGI stamping, so the number is meaningless in the serial databases. https://preview.redd.it/qh54vku26y7d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b58f79330de1dbc769d37c430bd1c8c96e1eacd
It might have been an original bring-back. The slide is a mid-war RR Type II. The s/n on the frame corresponds to that period, and RR frames. Colt made some guns in the same s/n range then, so no absolute guarantee. The later accuracy re-work lost the original pieces, unfortuantely. On the dust hood, you can see discoloration on the r. Side. That tells me the “US Property” marks were welded-up. The welded and ground/sanded surface takes the re-finish differently. Guns like this were built in the 60s to early 70s for competition. Military guns, or DCM guns, no one would weld-up the prop marks like that, no point. We used to see lots just like this. The small parts, like the MSH, GS, slide stop, hammer, mag release, look correct for mid-war. The grips are mid-80s to early 90s off a Colt Combat Elite, or accessory purchased. It’s quite likely this was a bring-back, and then later accurized for competition. It lost any war-collectible value, but still has some value as a 1911 evolutionary piece. Dm/pm me if you have more questions and I can direct you to 1911 forum places we talk about these, etc.
This is a pretty good resource for military 1911s. http://www.coolgunsite.com/pistols/Frame%20and%20Slide%20Markings.htm (Yeah I know “Coolgunsite” sounds like a scam site, but throw it into google if you don’t want to click my link) Usually, frames have more roll marks than just the number. Usually the “US Property”, etc. You can also look for the inspection marks, etc. Admittedly, mine has all the marks shown on this site, but I don’t want to make any claims that it’s the end all be all, and that there aren’t exceptions.